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Schönbach hatte mit Äußerungen über die von Russland annektierte Krim und den russischen Präsidenten Wladimir Putin Wirbel ausgelöst. Bei einem Besuch in Indien hatte er gesagt, die Halbinsel Krim sei für die Ukraine verloren, und damit der von Deutschland und seinen Partnern offiziell vertretenen Position widersprochen. Zu Putins Motivation hatte er erklärt, der russische Präsident verlange lediglich Respekt und verdiene diesen wahrscheinlich. Dieser Wunsch sei leicht zu erfüllen.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sat Jan 22nd, 2022 at 08:09:11 PM EST
... that the Russian president only demands respect and probably deserves it.

Crimea is returned to the Motherland ... Russia and Putin have been attacked in Chechnya by Jihadists rooted in Wahhabism (re: Afghanistan). Same intervention of Jihadists via Iraq and Libya in Syria of Assad. In 2008 Saakashvili miscalculated the support by America and George Bush in an election year and attacked Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia.

The positioning of NATO weapons in the Ukraine is a direct security risk for Russia --- creeping expansion.  The US is unreliable to deal with, most treaties with Russia have been abandoned. Diplomacy has been absent for years. Russia has received harsh sanctions ... there are not enough benefits to deal with Europe. Russia can choose for Central Asia (Caspian Bassin) and fossil fuel delivery to China. Europe will be cut off as only Germany would be a large customer through Nord Stream 1 and 2. Russia is set to secure its frontier with a military buffer zone on the soil of the Ukraine. Likely ethnic cleansing and the zone would be a new "Iron Curtain" of mines. This is Russia's main border at risk ... needs urgent attention. No turning back as NATO and the Bucharest Nine will not meet the security demands of Putin.

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sat Jan 22nd, 2022 at 09:20:17 PM EST
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The biggest obstacle for Ukraine to get Europe and especially NATO full backing.

Will Green Minister of Defense Baerbock sack the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy on the eve of hostilities.

The Federal Ministry of Defense distances itself from Schönbach's statements

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry stated in a letter that the German ambassador had been summoned, saying it was about the "unacceptability of the statements made by the Commander-in-Chief of the German Navy, Kay-Achim Schönbach." Among other things, it is about his statement "that Crimea will never return to Ukraine and that our state will not meet the membership criteria for NATO".

This leak by Schönbach is an indication of high risk NATO is willing to engage Russia in a war. Numerous examples in history, reminds me of Barack Obama leaking intelligence Israel was in final planning stages to attack Iran and use airfields in Azerbaijan.

Hacks, leaks and disruptions -- Russian cyber strategies | ISS - 2018 |

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sat Jan 22nd, 2022 at 09:43:43 PM EST
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But Ukraine is not a member, nor will it ever be, so what would be NATO's excuse to go to war?

Couldn't Schönbach's outcome rather be sign that the military wants the politicians to quit grandstanding and deal with the reality so that the military doesn't have to?

It's a very small clique that is actually willing to fight Russia over Ukraine (or for Baltic countries, for that matter), and most of the armed forces and civilians in the West or Ukraine are not in it.

by pelgus on Sat Jan 22nd, 2022 at 09:59:45 PM EST
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Vice Admiral Schönbach Takes Command Of The German Navy | Naval News - April 2021 |

On March 24, 2021, the Inspector General of the Bundeswehr, General Eberhard Zorn, handed over command of the German Navy from Vice Admiral Andreas Krause to his successor, Vice Admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach.

No one else before him was Navy Inspector for so long. His term of office was marked by a radical paradigm shift in Germany's security and defense policy. After 30 years of peace dividends and focusing on international crisis management, it was important to change course decisively in the direction of national and alliance defense. The operations of international crisis management, the recognized missions of NATO and the securing of the free sea routes also remain obligations of the Navy.

The Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses (MP-IDSA), India is organising a Talk by Vice Admiral Kay-Achim Schonbach, Chief of the German Navy on 'Germany's Indo Pacific Strategy' On Friday, 21 January 2022 from 1415h to 1530h

Ukraine demands public refutation of statement by German Navy commander on Crimea | UkrInform |

Publicity is always welcome ... otherwise it may have been missed by Western media. 🇩🇪  🇮🇳 😂

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sat Jan 22nd, 2022 at 10:53:06 PM EST
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'Sapere aude'
by Oui (Oui) on Sun Jan 23rd, 2022 at 10:37:21 PM EST
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I guess Liz doesn't approve sanctions, either? Oh, wait, "rules based" means something different than based in mutually accepted rules...
by pelgus on Sun Jan 23rd, 2022 at 10:46:27 PM EST
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