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The BBC follows the same narrative but has this "Vladimir Putin tells Ukrainian troops to overthrow their own country's leadership" in the summary of the live. But it also has that "Ukraine's interior ministry also says 18,000 machine guns have been given to volunteers".

I am not sure if this can help democracy anywhere... Machine guns against planes and tanks? to do what?

by Tom2 on Fri Feb 25th, 2022 at 04:27:46 PM EST
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New element added: French MSM claiming Ukr source says high level radiations around Tchernobyl. After two years of depression (and the latest 'depression wave' with the Omicron narratives), throwing a war and the 'nuclear threat' to the pot can only be within the full respect of the seriousness of information you expect in a democracy, isn't it?
by Tom2 on Fri Feb 25th, 2022 at 05:08:03 PM EST
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You don't take a city with planes and tanks.

You take a city block by block. With foot soldiers.
Even Molotov cocktails are useful. But eighteen thousand machine guns are better.


It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Sat Feb 26th, 2022 at 07:51:51 PM EST
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Useful for what? Like what is the endgame here? If you're arming the population in your capital you really should be seeking terms, whatever those are. Because the way cities defended by irregulars have been taken recently has been by bombing the rubble and then bombing it again.
by generic on Sat Feb 26th, 2022 at 08:49:36 PM EST
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Well, so far, the Ukranian government has been announcing civilian death tolls in the low hundreds. This would indicate that the Russian army is under instructions to minimise that. So they are not going Syrian on Kiev.

Despite the occasional cruise missile taking a random chunk out of an apartment building (or perhaps that was pinpoint accuracy on a particular apartment?)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Sun Feb 27th, 2022 at 09:18:22 AM EST
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