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The European Union was founded on the principles to prevent war. The war in the Ukraine was needless and should have been prevented

Indeed. It is a shame that the European Union has never, until these past couple of weeks, given itself the means to have any serious influence in defence matters.

If you recall, Putin was crystal clear from the start, that he wanted to negotiate with Biden and nobody else : the master of Nato.

So, hypothetically, they might have negotiated. Given that Putin's non-negotiable conditions included the disarming of the front-line NATO states, that would have needed a formal decision by all of the NATO member governments. The hypothesis that the USA decides everything in NATO would have been tested, and found to be false, because there is not the slightest chance that the front-line states would have accepted to disarm.

So from that point of view, no, the war could not have been prevented, and Putin knew it perfectly.

His only miscalculation was thinking that he could win the war he had already decided to launch, and that this would give him a strategic advantage. Instead, he has plunged Russia into decades of torment (Ukraine will recover much quicker)

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Mar 18th, 2022 at 11:24:59 AM EST
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Given that Putin's non-negotiable conditions included the disarming of the front-line NATO states

As I remember it, it was limited to nuclear weapons outside the home territory, and the Bush era missile bases in Poland and Rumania. Is this what you are refering to or were the demands more extensive than I remember? I tried finding it, but search enigines are so crappified.

by fjallstrom on Thu Mar 24th, 2022 at 01:53:36 PM EST
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by Oui (Oui) on Thu Mar 24th, 2022 at 02:18:00 PM EST
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From there the link to the Russian foreign ministry is blocked from here (can probably go around with a VPN, but annoying).

ABC reports:

The Russian draft treaties call for NATO to remove any troops or weapons from countries that joined the alliance after 1997, meaning most of Eastern Europe, including Poland, the Baltic states and Balkan countries. It also calls for the U.S. and Russia to refrain from deploying troops in areas where they could be perceived as a threat to each countries' national security, and a ban on sending their aircraft and warships into areas where they could strike each other's territory. The treaty would also ban the deployment of intermediate-range missiles in Europe.

The limits on NATO in Eastern Europe are seen as a non-starter by most experts. Most analysts in Moscow believe the Kremlin itself is aware that the proposals are unrealistic. Some said that rather than real goals, they may represent an opening gambit aimed at winning some concessions.  

Bolded the part eurogreen referenced. That does sound like disarmament, and would probably have been vetoed.

by fjallstrom on Thu Mar 24th, 2022 at 03:39:06 PM EST
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by Oui (Oui) on Thu Mar 24th, 2022 at 04:33:44 PM EST
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