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Re: Monday Morning hangovers (none / 1)

AFICT, this story originated with an outfit billed, Pledge Times, specifically, the Polish TV channel TVN24 source and the statement

"Last night I spoke with the German Interior Ministry, where we were asked to suspend special trains that go to Germany, because there is already a bottleneck situation there," he said in an interview with a journalist.

attributed to Deputy Interior Minister of Poland Pavel Shefernaker.

TVN24's synopsis of the interview, "Ukraine, refugees in Poland. "Deputy Minister Paweł Szefernaker: I agree with President Rafał Trzaskowski", does not include that remark, or detail, but broadly describes Szefernaker's interests in EU27 co-ordinating Ukrainians' resettlement...elsewhere. Coincidentally, DW affirms accommodation "bottlenecks", Ukrainian refugees: Can Berlin cope with the influx?, conspicuously developing around central train and bus stations.

Berlin's authorities have asked that responsibility for the incoming refugees be better shared among other German states too. They have even asked for help from the German army. A lot of Germans are also volunteering to help deal with the unfolding humanitarian catastrophe here.

Perhaps German media could corroborate or deny Interior's policy and regulation?

by Cat on Tue Mar 15th, 2022 at 10:20:45 PM EST
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"Perhaps German media could corroborate or deny Interior's policy and regulation? "

It is quite easy: Travel of Ukrainians is by no means restricted, in the contrary. Poland has been asked to enable more train connections to Germany, and especially: trains not only to Berlin. These additional lines are now being established. Presently more and more of the refugee trains are going to Hannover Laatzen, and from there people can travel on. It is hardly a secret.

by Katrin on Tue Mar 15th, 2022 at 10:29:27 PM EST
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Moin Katrin...

the bahnhofsmission in greater downtown Bremen greets the Refugees arriving at the train station. regular small buses take the families to the conference hall where they are initially housed.

there are also private buses which take the families to the medical center where doctors treat them, and most also wish to be vaccinated. several kids have already been taken to the hospital as their condition was too poor.

there are already wounded being treated here as well, even though we're on the other side of Deutschland from Berlin, which i find amazing. as of a few hours ago the trains continued to run.

i am not pleased when the white people's name for a native drum is used as a signal. i felt lucky i was never educated enough to learn to read, though i did have a Gene Krupa set of Slingerland Radio Kings.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Tue Mar 15th, 2022 at 10:57:15 PM EST
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Moin Crazy Horse,
that sounds remarkalby orderly and efficient. Here in Hamburg there are very long queues for the registration process. Emergency accomodation is overrun although new places are added every day (We have said that it must be in clace BEFORE 2015, but hey, it would cost some money). Many of the refugees are staying in private homes with relatives or strangers. Still, to access funds and medical services the registration is necessary. At present I am concerned about a lady who is staying in a private home with someone, and how is seriously ill, needing hospital care. It is out of the question to take her to the queue at the registration centre, and without that she is not entitled to free care. I am sure there are thousands of refugees with worries like that, and I am very furious about the bad preparations made for them.

by Katrin on Tue Mar 15th, 2022 at 11:11:11 PM EST
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There's probably exception cases everywhere, because the cause is such a horrible situation. Though it's reportedly so much worse in Mariupol (obviously).

with 450 refugees as of yesterday, Bremen doesn't have a flood yet. Because our vaccination centers were so well established and efficient, and the demand is decreasing since we're already over 90%, they converted some of the largest facility to being a medical center for them.

I know there are many people, especially russian speakers, volunteering.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Wed Mar 16th, 2022 at 09:01:14 AM EST
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Hi Katrin
Does that mean that if she turns up at the hospital without having her papers in order, she will be denied care? Surely the paperwork can follow later?

_{It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue
- Queen Elizabeth II}

by eurogreen on Wed Mar 16th, 2022 at 01:34:20 PM EST
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Oh, she will receive care. Likely even for free, because Ukrainian refugeees are entitled to that. The moment she is registered the hospital knows they will get paid by the state. Otherwise the "paperwork" will be a fat bill for private patients. It is entirely possible that this will get sorted out eventually, but it is not certain, because normally people without public health care insurance have to get the necessary document in advance. Our health care is simple for workers, for people getting benefits, but deliberately complicated for people outside these categories.

by Katrin on Wed Mar 16th, 2022 at 04:09:21 PM EST
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Hi Katrin!
Refugees are showing up in Sweden too, though probably at a slower rate than in Germany. To decrease pressure on migration offices a simplifed online form has been set up for those who are not in need of as much help, in order to prioritise those in most need fo help.

by fjallstrom on Thu Mar 24th, 2022 at 02:51:48 PM EST
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There is full information on all of this on the homepage of the DB. Is it too much to expect a journalist to look at this?

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Mar 16th, 2022 at 09:50:06 AM EST
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for the record, DB states one can use their Ukraine Passport to travel to Berlin, Munich, Dresden or Nuremberg. If a Ukrainian wishes to go to another city anytime , they need to get a ticket, but it's without cost.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Wed Mar 16th, 2022 at 10:25:07 AM EST
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PS. i forgot to put in the sarcasm emoji when i wrote: "the trains are still running."

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Wed Mar 16th, 2022 at 10:27:00 AM EST
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Yes, but are the trains running on time? </sarcasm>

by Bernard (bernard) on Wed Mar 16th, 2022 at 06:51:17 PM EST
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Of course not. Random example: the night train fron Wroclow to Berlin will be an hour late, due to passport controls.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Mar 16th, 2022 at 08:09:19 PM EST
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APsplain Polish the bottlneck: Priceless paper: Refugees get IDs for new lives in Poland

Refugees started queuing by Warsaw's National Stadium overnight to get the coveted PESEL identity cards that will allow them to work, live, go to school and get medical care or social benefits for the next 18 months. Still, by mid-morning, many were told to come back another day, the demand was too high even though Polish authorities had simplified the process.
[...]
Poland has so far taken in more than 2 million refugees from Ukraine -- the bulk of more than 3.3 million people that the U.N. says have fled since Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24. Hundreds of thousands more have also streamed into Hungary, Slovakia, Moldova and Romania.
Most of the refugees fleeing Ukraine have been women and children, because men aged 18 to 60 are forbidden from leaving the country and have stayed to fight.
Polish authorities said more than 123,000 refugees have been given the ID numbers -- including more than 1,000 each day in Warsaw -- since the program was launched Wednesday [16 Mar].

~1.8M to go!
parity watch
UAH (hryvni):PLN (zloty), 1:0.14
PLN:EUR, 1:0.21
PLN:USD, 1:0.23

Refugees can receive one-time benefit of 300 zlotys (USD 70) per person and a monthly benefit for each child under 18 of 500 zlotys (USD 117). Those who find jobs will have to pay taxes on their earnings just like Poles.
[...]
Many of the refugees from Ukraine have since moved on to other countries in Europe, mostly to stay with friends and family. Some, however, have chosen to go back home even as the end of the conflict is nowhere in sight.
Among them was 41-year-old Viktoria, who was waiting Saturday with her teenage daughter Alisa to board a train back to Zhitomyr in central Ukraine.
"For the last five days it has been quiet," said Viktoria. "Our local authorities are good. They prepared everything for us there so we can go back to work, have normal life and children can have online education."
Alisa said she is not afraid to return and wants to reunite with the rest of the family who are still in Ukraine.
"My relatives are there," she said.

by Cat on Sat Mar 19th, 2022 at 05:13:29 PM EST
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https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article237648761/Ukraine-Vertriebene-Enorme-Probleme-bei-Reg istrierung-der-Fluechtlinge-in-Deutschland.html

by Tom2 on Sun Mar 20th, 2022 at 08:13:40 AM EST
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