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Two former Army officers have been quoted recently as saying Ireland's defence is in worse shape than before the Troubles.

Have the Irish voted for membership yet for certain security?

Ireland has been successful as outsider to get Russia to move a military exercise during this crisis.

Special Capitals: What Europeans do to support Ukraine

Foreign Minister Simon Coveney has said the war should prompt "an honest rethink" of Ireland's security and defence policy and spending (the lowest in the EU). Others, however, have called for greater protection of the principle. In February, a leftwing lawmaker from the People Before Profit party proposed a referendum to codify the policy into the constitution.

Despite the rhetoric, polling suggests there is little public appetite for abandonment of the principle.

Taoiseach Micheál Martin met with Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal when he visited Ireland on 20 April but has not made the journey abroad. Instead, Foreign Minister Simon Coveney visited Kyiv on 14 April, meeting with Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba and Defence Minister Oleksii Reznikov.

Irish government rejects proposal to codify military neutrality in constitution

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by Oui (Oui) on Sat May 7th, 2022 at 12:07:28 PM EST
Yes, Ireland is an easy target for a nuclear sub...

The constitution is not the place to codify a policy which is, at best, ambiguous, and at worst, merely a determination not to be dragged into the British sphere of influence.

While there is no doubt that Ireland is part of the Anglo -sphere and now part of the EU, membership of NATO has never been seriously considered, and even attempts by the EU to develop a common defence capability are controversial. Ireland has survived very well being a small island on the north west fringe of Europe and of not too much strategic interest for anybody. No one believes we could defend ourselves against Russia anyway and opposition to British dominance has led us to be wary of relying on military means to resist occupation.

Our best defence is probably "Why would anyone bother to invade Ireland?" when Hitler didn't and the US has use of our airports in any case. We are also wary of the militaristic culture prevalent in the UK and much prefer to focus on non-violent means of conflict resolution (the IRA always excepted).

We thus have a good track record of participating in UN peace keeping missions and third world development aid generally.  But yes we have run down our defence capabilities atrociously and the Ukraine war is a wake up call in that regard.

Many have accused us of free-loading on the US and UK military and nuclear umbrellas, but frankly we see these as mixed blessings as likely to put us in the firing line as save us from foreign aggression.

We are of course blessed by being a relatively remote location and not central to the imperial rivalries, tensions and wars which have wracked Europe since forever. If we were Finland we would have to think seriously about NATO membership. But we aren't, and so we don't.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sat May 7th, 2022 at 01:11:32 PM EST
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Ireland's "we're an island so we're good" strategy is a lot more doubtful than that of the US.
by asdf on Sun May 8th, 2022 at 04:44:38 PM EST
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I think there is some merit on not seeing every conflict in military terms and seeking to use non-military means to mitigate/defuse them. It doesn't always work, of course, and I wouldn't be a pacifist if I were in the Ukraine. But if you ask the question "What can Ireland most usefully contribute to reducing the harm and resolving the conflict", then military assistance would not be high on the list. The USA may have a different capability and contribution to make.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun May 8th, 2022 at 05:01:56 PM EST
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Any plans in the air to send Coveny to K**v?

< wipes tears >

by Cat on Sun May 8th, 2022 at 05:09:29 PM EST
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He was there on April 14th.
- the first visit any foreign minister on the United Nations Security Council

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Sun May 8th, 2022 at 09:46:25 PM EST
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by Cat on Mon May 9th, 2022 at 04:23:30 PM EST
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