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Both "councils" are formed by one set of EU member heads of state.

What?! You sound very confused indeed. The Council of Europe has nothing whatsoever to do with the EU, which is the reason why Russia once applied for membership, and successfully at that, and only was kicked out recently, after decades of membership.

If one council is not part of the EU, neither council is part of the EU.
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Undoubtedly, one council is not part of the EU, and equally undoubtedly, the other one is.This is school children stuff. People quickly forget that (the disambiguation thing in my link wasn't set up for nothing), but to earnestly and repeatedly claim that the Council of Europe was not independent of the EU is more than astonishing.

Cat, why are you doing this?

by Katrin on Fri May 13th, 2022 at 05:33:02 PM EST
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by Cat on Sat May 14th, 2022 at 12:51:05 AM EST
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"The memo"? No, I haven't read "the memo". As a rule I don't read stuff that is dumped here without a context. Does your memo fall into that category?

In your last post you quoted some bits of your president's pitiful attempts at small talk as proof for your idea that everything that has the word "council" in it must, without doubt, be some EU decision-making entity.

Before that you posted "the link which enumerates the powers of the Council of the European Union". Is that what you mean by the mysterious "the memo"? Indeed, I didn't read it. I already know the powers of the Council of the European Union (btw. it is usually shortened to "European Council"). So, (if your link really does what you say it does, which we can't be sure of), it is telling us nothing new, nor is it telling us anything about the Council of Europe, because that latter entitiy has nothing to do with the EU, and should not be confused with the Council of the European Union, but then: you say you are not confused.

Oof. I don't know where I took this overdose of patience from. Won't happen again.

by Katrin on Sat May 14th, 2022 at 07:42:12 AM EST
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If you are content with being regarded as the poster who posts false factual claims here without even caring if your stuff is even remotely resembling something credible, then go on like this.
by Katrin on Sat May 14th, 2022 at 08:53:55 AM EST
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