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hum... I suppose you have a clear idea as to what could have been done to stop Russia from invading Ukraine?

How about explaining it in a couple of succinct paragraphs in your own words?

[And if it's "implement Minsk", then consider the possibility that the non-cooperation or the separatist side may have been a deliberate tactic piloted by Putin]

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Jan 30th, 2023 at 12:35:10 PM EST
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All your basic assumptions are FALSE ... bad start of any discussion. Much easier for you to reference clear quotes from either UK Liz Truss or Annalena Baerbock seeking meaningful dialogue in final 60 days before outbreak of hostilities.

Decision on war or a diplomatic solution was taken in Biden's war council [NSC] with advice fro the Pentagon. The rest, 2x Brussels, NATO members and EU Council, followed the war rhetoric of Joe and Jens .... Boris was just a nasty agent provocateur for war between NATO and Russia.

Naturally the Minsk agreements were torpedoed by Lviv Kyiv as per instructions from the White House. The U.S. were not participant in Minsk. Their vision on Minsk was quite aggressive equal to building Nord Stream

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Mon Jan 30th, 2023 at 04:40:19 PM EST
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My question wasn't addressed to you, but I have little hope that Cat will ever deign to respond, still less engage in honest discussion.

"engage in meaningful dialogue with Putin" : it's nice to think that might have made a difference to his plans, but can you suggest a list of concessions that any potential partners might have put on the table to avoid the invasion? Let's be specific. Given that he aimed (and failed) at regime change, before changing his mind and focusing on territorial gains, what might he have settled for instead?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Tue Jan 31st, 2023 at 10:23:17 AM EST
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Russia may not have invaded Ukraine but for BREXIT, says EU's [Guy] Verhofstadt, 31 Jan forensic "accountability"
Belgian MEP adds that 'a united Europe, certainly on defense matters, would make an enormous difference' in fight against Putin.
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Verhofstadt told LBC that the "brutal invasion" by Russia "has nothing to do with the extension of NATO, it has nothing to do with ... the European Union. It's really an attempt by Putin to restore the old Soviet Union."
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Verhofstadt was speaking on the third anniversary of the U.K. leaving the EU. He said he hoped that Britain will one day rejoin the bloc and that Ukraine can also join, "why not within five years?"
archived disorderly BREXIT, CAMPAIGN 2019, MEPs back Ukraine-style 'association' deal 2018, ALDE leadership 2017, etc
by Cat on Tue Jan 31st, 2023 at 04:27:25 PM EST
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Nuts! As so many Atlanticists willfully indoctrinated in the goodness of unbridled wealth for the elite. Prefer to keep a disunited "Europe" together as it is falling apart. Foundation of the Four Freedoms and an economy build on a goal for peace taken apart by America's artificial war on terror. NATO is not a defense pact for Europe, but a pact for expansion US empire across the globe. Russia to the Urals is part of Europe. America wanted the EU destroyed ... Pax Americana ...

'Sapere aude'
by Oui (Oui) on Tue Jan 31st, 2023 at 04:45:13 PM EST
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Boris Johnson meets with lawmakers in Capitol, 31 Jan US Red Team-UK Blue Team
Johnson met with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.) and is slated to speak to the Republican Study Committee on Wednesday. Johnson is making the rounds to Republican lawmakers as GOP support for the level of U.S. funding to Ukraine has started to falter.
Wall St Watchdogs USNews Reuters | Boris Johnson Meets U.S. Republicans, Pushes Ukraine Aid
by Cat on Wed Feb 1st, 2023 at 12:16:27 AM EST
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