CARDIN @00:42:58: I'd like to follow-up on Chairman Menedez's last point first in that is accountability. Tomorrow is Holocaust Rememberance Day, the 77th aniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. I appreciate and believe that we're making substantial progress in maintaining the evidence to pursue war crimes or crimes against humanity for those that are responsible at the highest levels.

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Early action is going to be important. Is there any hope that we could move forward with some recognized international mechanism that could start the process so that there is—it's known internationally—that accountability is going to be party of the resolution of this conflict?
NULAND: So, Senator Cardin, as I said, we're working hard on this with our G7 partners and with Ukrain. While we ...
CARDIN: I undersatand, you're working on gathering the evidence ...
NULAND: No, no, no, also on which of the various models  for uh pursuing ... just us ...
CARDIN: What is the progress on that?
NULAND: I would like to see us come to conclusions before the anniversary, around February. But it may take another few months. But certainly before the summer, I would hope. I would also note that when I was with the secretary in Kyiv in September, we went to Irpyn to see one of the towns that have been decimated by Russian missiles, and we met with some of the non-governmental organizations that [US]AID is supporting who were minutely gathering evidence and plotting it. So ...