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Barron's | France says to give envoy 'stern rebuke', innernational law and conventions
Beijing's ambassador to France Lu Shaye triggered a furore by saying on French television that countries that emerged after the fall of the Soviet Union "don't have effective status under international law because there is not an international agreement confirming their status as sovereign nations".
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" and wikiwtf SSR declarations, proclamations, and "recognition"
Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis [!] wrote on Twitter that "if anyone is still wondering why the Baltic States don't "trust China to 'broker peace in Ukraine', here's a Chinese ambassador arguing that Crimea is Russian and our countries' borders have no legal basis".
how a position paper became a peace plan became an unattributed quote in 30 days
... China meanwhile walked back the remarks, saying Monday that it respected the "sovereign state status" of all ex-Soviet countries...
archived Landsbergis 3, Landsbergis 2, Landsbergis 1, Landsbergis 0* Ukraine and Taiwan Are One

Politico.eu.com | Baltics blast China diplomat for questioning sovereignty of ex-Soviet states

archived Time to Bring Back the Polish-Lithuanian Union

* file in "set theory" jokes

by Cat on Mon Apr 24th, 2023 at 01:18:32 PM EST
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Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Mao Ning's Regular Press Conference on April 24, 2023
TASS: Last Friday, Chinese Ambassador to France Lu Shaye took an interview from a French media. On the ownership of Crimea, Mr. Ambassador said that it depends on how the problem is perceived. Crimea was historically part of Russia and had been offered to Ukraine by former Soviet Union leader Nikita Khrushchev. What is China's comment?
AFP: The Chinese Ambassador to France also claimed that the sovereignty of the former Soviet republics lacks solid basis in international law. Lithuania's foreign minister said that the Ambassador's remarks explain why countries like Lithuania lack confidence in whether China could play a constructive part in mediating for peace on the Ukraine issue. Does China support the Ambassador's remarks? Do you agree that the sovereignty of the former Soviet republics lacks solid basis in international law?
The Wall Street Journal: Just wanted to follow up on the comments made by the ambassador in France. Could you just clarify for us, do his comments reflect the position of the Chinese government specifically? Or will China retract the comment, as I believe some European leaders have called on China to do? Could you just be as specific as possible about the comments, specifically whether they were appropriate and whether the foreign ministry stands by them?
Mao Ning: I can tell you that what I stated just now represents the official position of the Chinese government.
Bloomberg: The transcript of the Chinese Ambassador to France's remarks appeared on the Chinese embassy's website. It was then removed. Do you know why it was removed and what part of Lu's comments were problematic?
Reuters: My question is similar to some that have been asked earlier about the Chinese ambassador in Paris. Does China recognize Ukraine as a sovereign state? 
Reuters: My question is related to the Ukraine/Crimea question again. Thank you very much for explaining China's decision on recognizing that former Soviet countries like Ukraine are sovereign countries. This seems different from what Ambassador Lu said in Paris. Does China stand behind everything that Ambassador Lu said in that interview with LCI?
Send warships to Taiwan Strait, Borrell urges EU governments, 23 Apr
by Cat on Mon Apr 24th, 2023 at 09:58:13 PM EST
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China's Xi talks with Ukraine's Zelensk* by phone, 25 Apr
"No details of the phone call were immediately released."
by Cat on Wed Apr 26th, 2023 at 11:52:10 AM EST
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Chinese President Xi Jinping holds phone conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensk*, 26 Apr
"Chinese President Xi Jinping holds phone conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensk*."
by Cat on Wed Apr 26th, 2023 at 12:12:05 PM EST
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fmprc | President Xi Jinping Speaks with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the Phone
On the afternoon of 26 April, President Xi Jinping spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the phone at the invitation of the latter. The two sides exchanged views on China-Ukraine relations and the Ukraine crisis. 

President Xi noted that China-Ukraine relations, after 31 years of development, have reached a level of strategic partnership, boosting development and revitalization of the two countries. Xi commended President Zelenskyy for stating, on multiple occasions, the importance he attaches to developing the bilateral relationship and advancing cooperation with China, and thanked the Ukrainian side for its strong assistance to the evacuation of Chinese nationals last year. Mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity is the political foundation of China-Ukraine relations. The two sides need to look to the future, view and handle the bilateral relations from a long-term perspective, carry forward the tradition of mutual respect and sincerity, and take the China-Ukraine strategic partnership forward. China's readiness to develop relations with Ukraine is consistent and clear-cut. No matter how the international situation evolves, China will work with Ukraine to advance mutually beneficial cooperation. 

by Cat on Wed Apr 26th, 2023 at 01:27:38 PM EST
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Does Zelenskyy want peace? Or is he strung as a puppet to U.K. and America ..

'Sapere aude'
by Oui (Oui) on Wed Apr 26th, 2023 at 01:43:32 PM EST
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Not a single mention of peace?  ☮️ China's belt & road connecting Ukraine with Russia .... likely a long tunnel instead of a road.

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Wed Apr 26th, 2023 at 02:00:13 PM EST
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Ukraine never before sent an ambassador to China. m'k.

I expect that lucky Ukrainian to acquit him- or herself with all the sophistication of the delegations loitering in Europe and the UN.

by Cat on Wed Apr 26th, 2023 at 02:14:11 PM EST
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Ukraine's ambassador kisses the ring, Mr Facebook, ONE CHINA.
...Taiwan is an inalienable part of China's territory. The Taiwan question is entirely China's internal affair. The Taiwan question and the Ukraine issue are different in nature and are not comparable at all....
by Cat on Wed Apr 26th, 2023 at 03:45:35 PM EST
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Notwithstanding possible UA:EN translation errors, it's surreal.
President of Ukraine had a phone call with the President of the People's Republic of China, 26 Apr
President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy had a phone call with the President of the People's Republic of China Xi Jinping.

During a productive hour-long conversation, the heads of state discussed a full range of topical issues of bilateral relations. Special attention was paid to the ways of possible cooperation to establish a just and sustainable peace for Ukraine.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy reaffirmed Ukraine's unwavering position on adherence to the "One China" policy and thanked the President of the People's Republic of China for China's support for Ukraine's independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity.

The President expressed gratitude to the Chinese side for the humanitarian assistance and noted that Ukraine properly cares about the safety of Chinese citizens in our country.

The parties discussed ways to strengthen the Ukrainian-Chinese partnership.

"Before the full-scale Russian invasion, China was Ukraine's number one trading partner. I believe that our conversation today will give a powerful impetus to the return, preservation and development of this dynamic at all levels," the  President of Ukraine emphasized. This should be facilitated by the resumption [!] of the work of the bilateral intergovernmental commission and the appointment of the Ambassador of Ukraine to China.

In this regard, the Head of State called on China to play an effective role in the settlement of the security issue around the ZNPP.

"This will be in line with the essence of the Budapest  Memorandum," he emphasized.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy briefed the Chinese leader on the situation at the front:...

The Head of State specifically focused on the devastating consequences of the Russian invasion, emphasizing the abduction of twenty thousand [!] Ukrainian children by Russia....

The President of Ukraine outlined the content of the Ukrainian Peace Formula [!] and informed about the ongoing diplomatic work on the organization of the Global Peace Summit.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy expressed hope for China's active participation in efforts to restore peace....

The parties emphasized the importance of efforts to establish peace.

The Head of State separately emphasized the importance of all states refraining from supporting Russia in the war. This should apply to military-technical cooperation, including the supply of weapons....

The President of Ukraine emphasized the readiness of our country to remain a guarantor of global food security. Volodymyr Zelenskyy noted that Ukrainian ports are currently hostage to Russian aggression and are blocked by the aggressor state, and our export routes are blocked with them.*

In this context, the parties expressed joint support for the need for proper implementation and continuation of the Black Sea Grain Initiative. Volodymyr Zelenskyy informed about the implementation of the Grain from Ukraine global humanitarian program.

The leaders of Ukraine and China agreed to maintain a regular dialogue.

* except, for example, for the 6.7M mt exported to China, 5.1M to Span, 3M to Turkiye, 2M to Italy, and 1.7M to Netherlands? JCC Cargo Destinations with NEW! animated shipping routes

Now there is an opportunity to give new impetus to relations between Ukraine and China - address by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, 26 Apr

I spoke with the leader of China today. It was a long and quite rational conversation. It is usually said that such conversations open up opportunities. Now there is an opportunity to give new impetus to our relations - Ukraine and China.

There is an opportunity to use China's political influence to restore the strength of the principles and rules on which peace should be based. Ukraine and China, as well as the vast majority of the world, are equally interested in the strength of the sovereignty of nations and territorial integrity... In compliance with the main security rules, in particular, the inadmissibility of threats with nuclear weapons and the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the world. We are equally interested in ensuring that the situation around the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant is finally fully secured and that nuclear power plants are never used for military purposes again, which is exactly the kind of cynical use Russia is trying to make the norm.

It is very important that China shares our view of freedom of navigation and trade. I briefed Mr. Xi Jinping on our efforts to restore seaborne food exports. And I heard words of support for our Black Sea Grain Initiative and its extension, as well as support for our humanitarian efforts, in particular the Grain from Ukraine program.

Of course, an essential part of the conversation is our views on ways to restore a just peace. I presented the Ukrainian Peace Formula, its specific points. We agreed to continue our communications.

[ellipses in original -mcs]

critical reviews
Andriy Yermak and Valerii Zaluzhny had a phone call with Jake Sullivan and Mark Mille, 27 Apr
President and Adviser to the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom discussed enhancement of defense support for Ukraine, 27 Apr

by Cat on Thu Apr 27th, 2023 at 01:15:05 PM EST
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The President of Ukraine outlined the content of the Ukrainian Peace Formula [!] and informed about the ongoing diplomatic work on the organization of the Global Peace Summit. After capitulation ...

To the victor the spoils and surrender dictates ...

Posted on another thread ... here

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Thu Apr 27th, 2023 at 05:38:33 PM EST
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by Cat on Thu Apr 27th, 2023 at 08:23:00 PM EST
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by Cat on Thu Apr 27th, 2023 at 08:18:57 PM EST
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by Cat on Sat Apr 29th, 2023 at 02:59:47 PM EST
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"state-controlled" media translation
ukrinform | China's neutral position on war "important" for Ukraine - official
"Is China a beneficiary of the war? It seems to me that there are many economic beneficiaries of the war, not just China, but it is fundamentally important for us that China does not interfere in this war and continues to take the neutral position it is taking today," Podolyak said. According to him, China is taking advantage of the situation with the closure of European markets for Russia, getting certain benefits off of this. At the same time, the official noted that China is not investing in Russia in terms of military technology or weapons.

"It is important for us that China adheres to this neutral position and does not invest in the war, does not support Russia," the advisor said.
"I would assess the very fact of the conversation as absolutely positive because China has certain reasons to see itself as a much more powerful state than Russia today and to claim the position that Russia used to occupy in the global political environment. And, of course, this is important for us from the point of view that President Zelensky was able to convey principled positions on the nature of the war, on how this war should end. And this was publicly voiced, this position was recorded that there can be no compromise of 'territory in exchange for peace'," Podolyak said.

Try to act surprised. I promise you, Zelensk* isn't the least interested in a ceasefire, Here is Podoliak's considered opinion from 28 Feb in Chinese peace principles for the war in Ukraine, countries which failed to support Ukraine
by Cat on Sat Apr 29th, 2023 at 10:01:26 PM EST
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Politico.eu.com | Xi tells Zelensk*: China won't add 'fuel to the fire' in Ukraine, 26 Apr
In first phone call between the leaders since Vladimir Putin launched his full-scale invasion, China's president says 'now' is the time to resolve the crisis.
and insisted the time was ripe to "resolve the crisis politically"
he suggested that Kyiv should pursue "political resolution" through dialogue
In a fuller statement, Zelensk* said that during the call "particular attention was paid to the ways of possible cooperation to establish a just and sustainable peace for Ukraine."
Xi, for his part, used the call to reject the West's criticisms of China amid worries that Beijing was preparing to provide Moscow with weapons.

"China is neither the creator nor a party to the Ukraine crisis," he said, as reported by state media Xinhua. "As a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council and a responsible great power, we would not watch idly by, we would not add fuel to the fire, and above all we would not profiteer from this."

by Cat on Wed Apr 26th, 2023 at 11:31:18 PM EST
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Joe McDonald I
Why? WHY?

Joe McDonald II
China's < reckless eyeballin' > Ukraine Plan

by Cat on Thu Apr 27th, 2023 at 07:02:57 PM EST
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China says it will send peace envoy to Ukraine. 2 hrs ago
Chinese leader Xi Jinping told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in a phone call on Wednesday that his government will send a peace envoy to Ukraine and other nations, state media said, after Beijing said it wants to act as mediator in Russia's war with the country. A government statement reported by state TV gave no indication whether the Chinese envoy would visit Russia.

"China will send a special representative of the Chinese government on Eurasian affairs to Ukraine and other countries to conduct in-depth communication with all parties on the political settlement of the Ukrainian crisis," the statement said.

China, Ukraine leaders speak for first time since war began. 19 min ago
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensk* said he and Chinese leader Xi Jinping had a "long and meaningful" phone conversation Wednesday, their first known contact since Russia invaded Ukraine more than a year ago. The phone call lasted nearly an hour and was a significant development that came two months after Beijing, which has long been aligned with Russia, said it wanted to act as a mediator in the war against Ukraine [FALSE] and after Xi visited Moscow last month.

Zelensk* was upbeat about the phone call, which offered him the chance to try to drive a wedge between Moscow and its key ally Beijing. Russian President Vladimir Putin is eager to keep Xi close as a counterweight to the United States, which has sided with Ukraine.

"I believe that this call, as well as the appointment of Ukraine's ambassador to China, will give a powerful impetus to the development of our bilateral relations," Zelensk* said in a Facebook post without elaborating. His office said more details of what was said would be published later in the day.
[uh oh]
The White House said it did not have advance notice about the call but described it as a positive development, allowing Xi to hear Ukraine's view of the "illegal, unprovoked invasion."

"We think that's a good thing," White House National Security Council spokesman John KIRBY said.

China tries to act as mediator in Russia's war with Ukraine. 5 min ago
Xi told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensk* in a phone call that a Chinese envoy would visit Ukraine and "other countries" to discuss a possible political settlement, according to a government statement reported by state TV. It made no mention of Russia or last year's invasion of Ukraine. It also gave no indication of whether the Chinese envoy might visit Moscow. The Xi-Zelensk* phone call was long anticipated after Beijing said it wanted to be a mediator in the war.
by Cat on Wed Apr 26th, 2023 at 03:25:27 PM EST
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One never knows beforehand until you do open the Chinese fortune cookie ...

China also calls on assurances for security of Russia ... expansion of NATO has gone too far and threatens the Russia Federation. Back to square one of December 2021.

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Wed Apr 26th, 2023 at 04:26:11 PM EST
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400 years of "humiliation" ended with independence and gaping partitions.
by Cat on Wed Apr 26th, 2023 at 06:10:35 PM EST
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