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Slugger O'Toole on the Irish (none / 1)
As an outsider observing from afar, trying to understand ... rule of thumb do not get involved in dispute of two academics, women or Orthodox Jews.

Introduction: ARINS = Analysing and Researching Ireland North and South

Shirlow (Liverpool) and Coulson sought to discredit the ARINS' team methodology in conducting their surveys of public opinion in Ireland, north and south, and particularly on the subject of Irish re-unification.

Professor Pete Shirlow's research interests focus on the themes of political violence, post-conflict transformation, policing and community and the impact of ethno-sectarian reproduction. This includes a particular emphasis upon former combatants and their inclusion/exclusion within civic society. He has undertaken a series of consultations with political actors in Montenegro, Iraq, Israel, Palestine, Turkey, Serbia, Macedonia and Bosnia.

Home truths for Sinn Fein on sectarianism from Pete Shirlow | Slugger O'Toole - 21 Nov. 2017 |

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Although I am from a unionist background but I do not feel out place. That is due to the fact that I have been welcomed.

My forebears were anti-sectarian, but they were pro-union. The idea that being pro-union is inherently sectarian is not only wrong it is inherently sectarian.

Question 2: What is sectarianism?

Sectarianism has two forms - prejudice and exclusiveness

Prejudice is the obvious form: Sectarianism is vicious, insidious and repugnant.  It is unjust and acrimonious.  It is both within and without the groups that we belong to. Sectarianism is not a natural state. We are not born sectarian.

One reason why people were pro-union was as recognised, in your own motion, was due to the 'south's religious doctrine ... alienating sections of the Protestant people'.

We must consider that we can be both sectarianized but not sectarian.

How could the treatment of Catholics in the North and Protestants in the South not make us suspicious of each other? How could the violence of the past not make us fearful of each other?



Amnesia and Gaza Genocide
by Oui on Thu Apr 24th, 2025 at 06:56:30 PM EST
Re: Slugger O'Toole on the Irish (none / 1)

Stubborn belonging? Religion and identity in Ireland

Nestled on the banks of the River Blackwater in Tyrone, the site of Benburb Priory has a history that stretches back to 1561. It has long served as a centre for spiritual discussion. In 1949 the Order of the Servants of Mary, under the leadership of Fr. James Keane, travelled from Chicago to Benburb and established the first Servite Priory on the island of Ireland.

For Derry native Archbishop Eamon Martin who grew up regularly crossing the border to visit his granny and wider family in Donegal, being Irish came more naturally. His mother's use of the Irish language enhanced his sense of a strong Irish identity. For Archbishop Martin this was also connected to the land. Travelling around Ireland visiting monastic sites and scenic spots as a child enriched his understanding of the island's history and natural landscape but also reinforced for him how a sense of Irishness is connected to faith.

Culture and particularly music were significant in forming Archbishop Martin's identity too, and it was through his performances in bands, ensembles and orchestras that he first met other young people from outside the Catholic faith.

During the troubles, when Archbishop Martin was a young priest, he was confronted with the reality that religion in Ireland could be far more complex and confused that the faith he had known. He recognised that some had a sense of `being Irish over and above others' which led to his reflecting on the many types of Ireland that co-exist and to his Yeatsian invocation that we live on 'a beautiful island, but it's a terrible beauty.'

Future fortunes of Dublin and Belfast - why the two cities need each other

Amnesia and Gaza Genocide

by Oui on Thu Apr 24th, 2025 at 07:02:54 PM EST
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Re: Slugger O'Toole on the Irish (none / 1)
The opinion poll that shouldn't have surprised anybody | Andy Pollak - January 2023 |

Andy Pollak is a former Fortnight editor and Irish Times journalist based in Dublin.

The main findings of last month's big Irish Times all-island opinion poll on Irish unity should not have surprised any knowledgeable observer of politics in the two jurisdictions, although they certainly will have disappointed Sinn Féin and the passionately nationalist partisans of the Ireland's Future campaign.



Amnesia and Gaza Genocide
by Oui on Thu Apr 24th, 2025 at 07:04:17 PM EST
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