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Germany: Twilight of the Gods

by DoDo Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 04:30:54 AM EST

The events of the last two days were really fast... and, they had much to do with giant egos (hence the title).

It started with outgoing chancellor Gerhard Schröder, who declared that he'll step down even as an MP next year - for he thinks sitting in the backbenches is "undignified" for an ex-chancellor...

Then, vice-chancellor-to-be and current SPD (Social Democrat) chairman Franz "Münte" Müntefering declared that he'll step down as chairman unless his man is selected as candidate for party secretary. As reported by Saturday, his call was defied, and 35-year-old Andrea Nahles of the party's left wing was selected - and Münte made true his threat (but, he remains Vice Chancellor candidate).

Then, the much detested Edmund Stoiber, Bavarian PM of the Christian Socialist party (who had a good personal relationship with Münte) declared he no longer wants to become economic minister.

Meanwhile, in the SPD, popular foreign aid minister Heidemarie Wieczorek-Zeul (see list of previously chosen ministers) declared she doesn't want to continue either - saying she won't stand in the way of a generation change. (Possibly for Nahles.)

To complete the upheaval (and to make me even more of a clairvoyant) the SPD leaders haven't picked one of the elephants like Steinbrück, but unanimously chose their young star from East Germany, Brandenburg province PM Matthias Platzeck as candidate for next chairman!


What effect will these changes have?

I think on the short term, turmoil in the SPD and confusion in the talks for an SPD-CDU/CSU Grand Coalition. On the longer term however, I believe the SPD's chances improved dramatically.

One of the big problems of the SPD was that Schröder transformed the party leadership into a chorus of yes-men. (Münte's image as being to the left of Schröder was, in my impression, more based on words - we all remember "locusts" - than actions, he was always a faithful adjutant.) Now, unless Platzeck (and the party Left) commits some grave errors, the public can view the SPD as a party that has a chancellor-in-waiting, out-shining the Anden-Pakt guys of the CDU who have a similar project. Soon it could be the CDU whose leaders are less keen on letting the government fail and have new elections.

Also, as for Stoiber: good riddance! Not that other members of his party are any better, but first signs are that the knives are out in Bavaria, and Stoiber may lose his PM-ship too (to some ambitious member of his party).

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Aside from the Washington Post US Gulag story, this was news I hoped someone would comment on...so thanks! Can you (or someone) say more about Platzeck? And who is going to replace Munte as Vice-Chancellor?

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 04:40:38 AM EST
That's the fun thing: Münte will stay as Vice-Chancellor(-candidate)! So Stoiber's excuse for resignation from government seems silly.

As for Platzeck, I hope our German crew will supply you with details (especially as I took my time at ET now only because of these two urgent stories - this and the Hungarian), here are two images from his homepage - first Platzeck as he looks now:

Second, Platzeck at the time he gained his popularity, as provincial environment minister in media spotlight during the 1997 catastrophic flood on the Oder river (at the border to Poland):



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 06:50:57 AM EST
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The current dynamics within the SPD cannot solely be explained with the left/right wing power struggle between party factions. I would even go so far as to say that these alleged battles are almost negligible.

There's something more important happening. A process which transcends the left vs right dichotomy. I call it: The rediscovery of the SPD's soul.

What do I mean?

The wildly propagandised need for modernisation, the necessity for ' third way ' reforms had led in the past years to a growing disenchantment of the party base and many of its traditional voters. Perhaps not everybody knows it: but socialdemocrats still use to address each other by their forenames and by 'Du" instead of the formal 'Sie'. Tu instead of Vous. Socialdemocrats refer to each other as 'comrades' and not as Mr. and Mrs. like the other parties. This creates a particular atmosphere of collective wellbeing, something called the ' Old Aunty - SPD ' feeling. It emanates solidarity between equals. (UK Labour Party members will remember this.)Unfortunately Schröder and others had initially neglected this vital aspect of the SPD. Particularly during the first SPD/Grünen coalition when Schröder was photographed wearing Brioni suits and smoking big cigars.

People didn't like it. They couldn't relate to it.

But - over time - Schröder and Münte got the message azd reacted. They did away with seemingly unimportant things like the fancy 'modern' pop tunes played at part congresses and re-introduced the singing of old SPD battle hymns. "Wenn wir schreiten Seit' an Seit' ' - when we walk side by side... Müntes locust debate and Schröder's farewell to the Blairite 'third way' were only a consequent continuation of this.

And it worked - Schröder became the come - back - kid. Both Schröder and Münte began to talk to the 'soul' of the party. Which common wisdom attributes to a place on the left side of the body. The results were clear, the SPD made good on its all time low of 23% in the polls and gained support.

Now, here is were Nahles committed a arch sin in the eyes of the party base. Her move was perceived as an act of egoism, a breach of solidarity. Hence the unanymous condemnation of her candidature. Nobody saw it as a 'left' move. Nahles did not understand that Münte and Gerd S. are considered heroe - saints by the party base now.

Even the resignation from their positions has not weakened their standing in the SPD. On the contrary it has only pointed out to the base that both are ' straight shooters '. Starting with the locust debate they have become ever more strongly rooted within the party. During the last weeks of the election campaign Schröder almost grew into the role of Willy Brandt and began to walk in his shoes. Even his voice and gestures commanded the same 'gravitas'. It was astounding.

Now where do we go from here?

I see two possibilities: The first is that the grand coalition somehow works out o.k. and Platzeck soon becomes the new darling of the party. He can then run for the chancellory at the new elections. Schröder might then be nominated for the job of next president of the EU Commission.

The second possibility is that the grand coalition soon fails. At that point the SPD will still have the option to ' implore ' Schröder to come back and to lead the battle for the chancellory.

'Aunty SPD' has been re-surrected yet again and I don't see any Götterdämmerung on the horizon.

"The USA appears destined by fate to plague America with misery in the name of liberty." Simon Bolivar, Caracas, 1819

by Ritter on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 09:03:54 AM EST
Excellent summary...I did not know this about the "soul" of the SPD. That's great...makes me feel even more warmly towards the party. Hmm, maybe even some disaffected SPD will came back in from the cold, so to speak...

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 10:59:07 AM EST
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The "soul" is not only an SPD reality, it exists in the UK too. My city is twinned to a coal miners town in England and over the last 40 years we have established many friendships between the people of our cities. Mind you these contacts did not remain at the official level of delegations. On the contrary it led to friendships between coal miners, fire fighters, public administration workers, nurses, social workers, school kids etc.pp. I still remember the UK labour party members coming reguarlary to Germany. They would even venture for such 'jobs' as engaging in house to house canvassing, handing out leaflets etc. And we had social events too. Great stuff and very emotional, very heart felt moments  especially for the old comrades who had fought in the war when they found out that we share the same songs. Another touching 'soul' moment was the time when our English comrades defied the Thatcher policies during the long coal miners strike. We organised a several months long weekly shuttle service of food and clothes transports to our twin city and helped the coal miners union comrades to nourish the coal miners families in need. I also know of marriages which came out of the twinning. Our communion with the English labour party comrades was made on these bases, not on a ficticious 'free market' ideology.

Btw: I was given by our UK comrades a live long member ship card for the Association of English Working Men Clubs, which is fantastic since a pint of beer costs 10 pence less there.

"The USA appears destined by fate to plague America with misery in the name of liberty." Simon Bolivar, Caracas, 1819

by Ritter on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 02:21:22 PM EST
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Which town are you twinned with?
by PeWi on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 05:07:12 PM EST
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Salford

"The USA appears destined by fate to plague America with misery in the name of liberty." Simon Bolivar, Caracas, 1819
by Ritter on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 05:08:40 PM EST
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English language coverage provided by Fran in the European Breakfast Thread.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 09:58:09 AM EST
I just arrived back in Germany last week from the US, this time for good.  Since I'm getting married I will take a German citizenship.  This is a great post since I'm trying to get a handle on German politics.  So my question is this: can anyone direct me to political party as I wish to get involved in the political process of my new country.  I thought about the SPD but my impression is that they have the same problem as our Democrats, they've become too centered.  I've also thought about the PDS, Wahl Alternative, and Bundis Links.  Since I am in NRW, some of these parties seem very local.

Any advice and pros & cons of the parties from anyone in the know would greatly be appreciated.

"Schiller sprach zu Goethe, Steck in dem Arsch die Flöte! Goethe sagte zu Schiller, Mein Arsch ist kein Triller!"

by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 12:50:37 PM EST
Where do you live in North Rhine - Westfalia? I'm originally from the Ruhrgebiet which is considered the heart chamber of the German social - democracy. The SPD has a great tradition in NRW and is present in literally every street, every association, club and - of course - every pub. Your membership would be highly appreciated and the party structure offers a wide range of political topics on which you can become actively involved. Are you not yet 35 years old? Then you would be automatically part of the Young Socialists too. Why don't you get in contact with your local SPD branch, it is just around the next street corner. Talk to them and go to some meeting, or better still ask them about the ongoing work of specific committees. The SPD has made a great comeback at the last elections. I cannot help it but the DKP guys have always had the stint of political zealots, of dogmatists. The PDS is not much different. They are a fringe party. If you want to see things happen and be part of it - enter the SPD. And don't worry about not finding enough left wingers. Be ready for a surprise. The party is full of it. What makes this even more interesting is that we govern most of the cities and counties and the SPD is again the biggest party in NRW.  

"The USA appears destined by fate to plague America with misery in the name of liberty." Simon Bolivar, Caracas, 1819
by Ritter on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 01:37:40 PM EST
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I am currently in Menden, Sauerland.  Maybe I will check out the SPD.  Although I have to confess that I think Sarah Wagenknecht is absolutely hot!  Last year I taught literature at Uni-Dortmund and I will probably enroll in Uni-Bochum's Theaterwissenshaft program in the spring for a second MA degree while I conduct my research for my Doctorsarbeit on Brecht.  Since you are from the Ruhrgebiet, I must say that I was very impressed by the Steinwache prison museum in Dortmund, indeed, this area is the heartland for the German left.  I'll call the SPD tomorrow and find out when is the next meeting.  I'm 39 so I can't be a young socialist - but I am sure that I will surprise them by being an Ami-Socialist!  Thanks for your suggestion, it gives me a little hope in the SPD.

"Schiller sprach zu Goethe, Steck in dem Arsch die Flöte! Goethe sagte zu Schiller, Mein Arsch ist kein Triller!"
by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 01:58:51 PM EST
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Menden is just a stone throw away from my city, which is Lünen. We must meet when I go back there for X-mas. I will probably cook at a dinner party at some friends house. Probably Italian food. I will bring some special beers from Belgium too (I live in Brussels). You are invited to it.

"The USA appears destined by fate to plague America with misery in the name of liberty." Simon Bolivar, Caracas, 1819
by Ritter on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 02:34:44 PM EST
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Just to give you more info, I looked up the official election result (for 2002 too) in your election district (Märkischer Kreis II, not the most lefty in NRW):

Participation: 76.5% (2002 -2.4 percentage points)
Invalid: 1.3% on list votes, 1.5% on direct votes (both +.1)

Zweitstimmen (list votes; all above 1%):

  • SPD (Social Democrats) 39.8% (-3.3)
  • CDU (Christian Democrats) 36.8% (-0.2)
  • FDP (Free Democrats, market-liberals) 9.5% (+0.2)
  • Grüne (Greens) 5.2% (-0.8)
  • Die Linke (Left Party, hard left) 5.2% (2002 PDS +4.3)
  • NPD (National Democrats, far-right) 1.2 (+0.7) [another far-right, the Schill party, went from 1.4% to zero]

Erststimmen (direct candidate vote, all):

  • SPD (Dagmar Freitag) 47.5% (-2.2)
  • CDU (Thomas Gemke) 41.1% (+2.4)
  • FDP (Jochen Lipproß) 3.8 (-2.1)
  • Grüne (Bärbel Keiderling) 2.1 (-0.7)
  • Die Linke (Karsten Renfordt) 4.1% (2002 PDS +3.3)
  • NPD (Timo Pradel) 1.5 (+0.7)

BTW, I wonder how you manage so far that the decimal and millenal numerical signs are just the opposite outside the Anglo-Saxon sphere (say, €100.000.000,00 instead of your $100,000,000.00) :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 03:42:07 PM EST
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Big party member scoffing notwithstanding (sorry Ritter :-) ), if you dislike centrism, I think you could try the WASG wing of the forming new Left Party (Linke) too, and the Greens too.

The WASG is in part breakaway SPD, in part altermondialist and other new movements. (Its senior partner in formind Die Linke, the PDS, may be fringe in NRW, but not in the East.) From residual symphaties from my time in Germany (tough not NRW - I was in Hessen) and my high regard for their work in government, I'll put my first recommendation behind the Greens.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 02:57:33 PM EST
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DoDo, the Greens are not a left wing party. Not by a long shot. I admit that I go to green party member GPs and dentists. But that has more to do with 'life style' and not politics. And talking about the Greens in Hessen. The last left wing leader of the Greens was Jutta Dittfurth. That was years ago. As you may probably remember she left the party in protest because of Joschka Fischer's realo politics. Do you remember the Krebsmühle project, the big alternative workers co-operative in Oberursel? Well, they hated Dittfurth. And for a good reason. We were then engaged to create new, innovative, self determined and self controlled networks of workers co-operatives. Dittfurth (again: a Protestant predicant's daughter) had studied too much undigested marxist political economy for beginners to understand what we were up to. She still clang to the simplified mechanisms of Engel's postulates in his 'Dialects of Nature' and continued to dream of a final clash of classes. We had no part in it. She didn't see us and subsequently betrayed her party base in Hessen. Dittfurth didn't use the Greens political influence to foster our initiatives. OK, that was then. It's history now. What we witness today is a Greens party which fights for the votes of dentists and other better-off income earners. They compete with the FDP not with left wing parties.

"The USA appears destined by fate to plague America with misery in the name of liberty." Simon Bolivar, Caracas, 1819
by Ritter on Wed Nov 2nd, 2005 at 03:31:14 PM EST
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