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CENSORSHIP of NEWS in AMERICA -- Part 2 -- RAF Bombing

by GraceReid Tue Jun 14th, 2005 at 06:47:07 AM EST

A few days on dKos ago I ran a diary about censorship of the news in America.  A poll attached to the piece asked the readers if they thought there was censorship of the news in America.  Three hundred and seventy people voted, and 95% of them said yes, there is.  (As to whether Google practices censorship, there was no poll, but I think I can safely say that more of half of the commenters said no, Google does not censor the news in America.)  This discussion carried over into the European Tribune.  A reader said:


"I'm going to have to disagree with this one. There is certainly BIAS in the mainstream media in the US, but that's not the same as censorship. Plenty of publishers openly print anti-government material. And the Internet has very broad (perhaps not very deep, though) content. My shortwave radio doesn't detect jamming of stations from other countries.

"What we DO have is a population that doesn't always stop to think about where their information is coming from, and a media industry that is mainly about making money. But it's pretty clear that the U.S. government doesn't actively censor the news--otherwise we wouldn't know about the DSM, for example.

"Perhaps there is a counterexample of a news item that was available in, say, Europe, that was not available in the U.S.?"(asdf)

My answer:

Great Example

"The RAF double bombing campaign of 2002 was reported in the UK on the 29th of May.  What date, if ever, was it reported in the US news?"(gr)

At this point, readers, I'd like to insert a poll.  Welshman reported to us on DKos on the 29th of May from a story by Michael Smith in Times On Line: "RAF Bombing Raids in 2002 Tried to Goad Saddam Into War."   This article has proven enormously important -- it is a critical piece of evidence in the Democratic House Judiciary Hearing on the Downing Street Minutes to be held this Thursday, June 16.

On what date, if ever, was this reported in the US?  No cheating.  No Googling. I'll give you the answer postehaste.


When did the US report RAF story?
. Same day 0%
. 1 day later 16%
. 3 days later 0%
. 7 days later 0%
. Didn't report 83%

Votes: 6
Results | Other Polls
it can't happen here.
by GraceReid on Tue Jun 14th, 2005 at 06:48:27 AM EST
particularly when the stories are about America, like the story I can't find right now abouta brazilian professor who was deported because he had AIDS.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Tue Jun 14th, 2005 at 06:53:42 AM EST
A lot of stories disappear down the memory hole.. and anyone who brings them up is labeled a "tinfoil hat" wearer.


Night and day you can find me Flogging the Simian

by soj on Tue Jun 14th, 2005 at 08:25:08 AM EST
I don't understand why you keep calling this "censorship." Perhaps we have a different understanding of the terminology? To me, "censorship" is when the government prevents somebody from publishing something. "Profit-oriented media with numbskull subscribers" is when the press doesn't bother to publish something because they don't think it will make them any money.

Perhaps this is a topic worthy of EuroTrib, which I wasn't sure about at first: It seems to poke at a fundamental difference in viewpoint regarding liberty between the two cultures. I think that a big part of it has to do with differing expectations.

To expand the discussion a bit, why do you allow your government to so intrusively require you to have a license to have a television RECEIVER in the Europe? Aren't those little trucks that drive around detecting illegal receivers just the government keeping track of who might be watching the wrong station? And isn't the revenue used to fund the Official Government Media?

Here in the U.S., such a system would be considered a severe invasion of privacy and restriction on liberty. Our National Public Radio and TV control tiny subsets of the market: We have no government media at all.

The contrast is interesting: Europeans who live with media that is largely (about half of broadcast TV market share in U.K.) and LITERALLY controlled by the government, calling "censorship" on American media that is bad, but completely independent of government.

This is the "difference in expectations" that I hope will be brought to light by European Tribune...

by asdf on Tue Jun 14th, 2005 at 02:36:09 PM EST

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