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Beauty of Democracy ¶ Humor Dutch Style -- June 1, 2005

by Oui Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 12:10:09 AM EST

            ~ Cross-posted from BooMan Tribune ~

No not the result of the Dutch Vote on the EU Charter!


The move Ambassador Clifford Sobel wanted to Park Clingendael, led to a people's revolt. I personally witnessed and participated on May 24th hearing with Mayor Wim Deetman, who came to the community and clarified why the US should move into our neighborhood! The conference room with 650 angry neighbors, led within 10 minutes to a statement by the mayor he would leave the meeting. The mayor called upon the citizens of The Hague, a highly educated group of people, to behave or else. LOL followed.

US Embassy on Lange Voorhout

When I studied the building and landscaping plans developed by the US for its Embassy, and presented to the Dutch Foreign Office of Minister Ben Bot, it looked more a duplicate of Camp Bucca in Iraq. Meters high fences or walls, 30 mtr free zone within the perimeter of embassy grounds and campus style buildings of three flours maximum.

Be careful with the security guards in the towers, as you move below the fold ...

In case of an explosion, this would limit the damage. No one questioned what would be the resulting damage to our homes near by, or some high rising office building that would become a target of convenience.

The present location in city centre has 4,000m², in the beautiful landscape of Park Clingendael the US had proposed a tenfold: 35-40,000m² or approx. 10 acres. Most likely the security perimeter would have as final touch extra rolls of razor barbed wire surrounding the new location.

The district called Benoordenhout, is one of the beautiful areas for living with recreation in the nearby wooded areas, parks and sports accommodation. The Dutch citizens, all liberal right-wing VVD supporters and US allies, threatened the city of The Hague and mayor Deetman with long legal procedures to block the US embassy move. See earlier letter send to the US State Department - Condoleezza Rice.

What made my day last night, June 1, 2005 - the proposal was voted down before the city council of The Hague!

It didn't stop there though. Most important, you won't believe it, in a new proposal by the city council: the US Embassy and Sobel would be welcomed in a new development district to be created on the premises of the Frederik Military Barracks near Scheveningen. Main party to lease buildings in this project is the ICC - International Criminal Court of the United Nations. Must read the bill passed by US Congress - The Hague Invasion Act.

Ambassador Sobel


Isn't that beautiful, Sobel and his bullying tactics must have really pissed off some administrators within the city and Dutch government. The NEW US EMBASSY next door to the UN-ICC -- it made my day!



Oui aka @dKos as creve coeur and new creve coeur

Oui - Liberté - Egalité - Fraternité

After the excitement of last ten days in the Frog Pond - and a cozy corner in the BooTrib community.

Doing Time in support of Diane: {Garden Partying -GP-}--
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by Oui  ◊  Sat Jun 11th, 2005  

Thought I'd do a cross-post to slowly get a re-start on the lovely Euro Tribune. Congrats to ALL.

USA WELCOME: Make Yourself Known @BooMan Tribune and add some cheers!

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 12:37:51 AM EST
Oui, I was thinking of cross posting a diary of mine from BMT (the one about SOS)

It seems there are a lot of new people here and the Froggies who have seen it already can easily skip.

As you know I like more philosophical diaries then the activist type.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 01:13:59 AM EST
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try to keep community sane! I love the philosophical diaries - must do!

In a new European community, my first steps are often in "Getting To Know Me" type of opening. Truly remarkable how it is possible to Quick Start a new blog! I like to watch the site meter indications - the first time I see 25% blog participation @BooMan from all of Europe. It never did exceed 15% before.

WELCOME: Make Yourself Known @BooTrib aka lost treasure of dKos

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 02:36:48 AM EST
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Post it...it's good...stimulates thinking and conversation... (imho)

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 05:06:20 AM EST
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Thanks Bob ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 06:41:44 AM EST
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I agree you should post the article on Self Organising Systems here.  Just read it: took ages to find it given the HUGE number of diaries now being posted at BT.  Very thought provoking, thanks.
by canberra boy (canberraboy1 at gmail dot com) on Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 10:35:05 AM EST
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Thanks to you also CB. I've now posted it here.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 12:49:03 PM EST
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And a big thanks to The Hague for resisting the advance of U.S. neo-brutalist architecture!

I do think, however, that a U.S. embassy next door to the UN-ICC is an inspired idea. Think of all the tax dollars we'll save when embassy officials can just pop next door to make sure all the hundreds of Bush Administration war criminals are being "humanely" treated over there. The UN-ICC might consider giving them their own office!

by Matt in NYC on Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 07:46:51 AM EST
I like your thinking.  
by Hausfrau on Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 08:42:53 AM EST
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You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 12:49:59 PM EST
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