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Breaking :: Documents Leaked on Menezes Death in London Subway ¶ Updated

by Oui Wed Aug 17th, 2005 at 05:55:27 AM EST

      ~ Cross-posted at BooMan Tribune   & Daily Kos ~

Update [2005-8-17 14:30:30 by Oui]:

UK London Met Police Assailed over 'shoot to kill' Blunders
Leaked report: Botched operation led to innocent Brazilian’s death

See VIDEO of the fatal minutes that led to the death of an innocent Brazilian man, going about his daily business.


       

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Aug. 16: ITN's Dan Rivers reports, that documents from an independent investigation reveals police blunders. MSNBC

Leaked documents in shot Brazilian's death allege London police error

LONDON (AFP) - Police in London were under pressure after leaked documents revealed that a Brazilian killed on suspicion of being a suicide bomber was not trying to evade police and was already being restrained when he was shot at point-blank range.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission, which is investigating the police killing of Jean Charles de Menezes, refused to confirm or deny the new information -- broadcast by ITV News -- which contradicted earlier police claims and witness statements.

Police shot the electrician, 27, at point-blank range after he boarded a subway train on July 22, one day after four suspected would-be bombers tried but failed to repeat the July 7 blasts that killed 56 people.

Initial reports said de Menezes had been acting suspiciously -- wearing a bulky jacket, jumping a ticket barrier at Stockwell Underground station, south London, and sprinting onto the train.

But witness accounts and photographs leaked to ITV painted a different picture, showing the man in a light denim jacket walking calmly into Stockwell station in south London.

More to follow below the fold »»


Update [2005-8-18 16:23:55 by Oui]:
Breaking News The Guardian ::
Sir Ian Blair Tried to Stop IPCC investigation!

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Matozinho Otoni da Silva, the father of the slain 27-year-old Brazilian electrician Jean Charles de Menezes, shows a photograph of his son. Anti-terror police in London were under pressure after leaked documents described an alleged catalogue of fatal errors that led to the mistaken shooting of the innocent Brazilian man.(AFP/File)

They also revealed that de Menezes -- whose death brought to light a secret Metropolitan Police "shoot to kill" policy in dealing with suspected suicide bombers -- was restrained by an officer before being shot eight times.

In addition, a police officer outside his flat said he failed to videotape de Menezes when the Brazilian left home as he had been on a toilet break.

Relatives and campaigners demanded a public inquiry.

"My family deserve the full truth about his murder. The truth cannot be hidden any longer. It has to be made public," said de Menezes's cousin Allessandro Pereira.


Alex Pereira, victim's cousin at Tulse Hill?

The Justice4Jean Family campaign said the public had been misled. "We must ensure that the full lessons of this death are learnt by the authorities so that no other innocent Londoner suffers a similar fate," it said.

"There's obviously some level of incompetence here or some serious breakdown in communications with the various officers involved in surveillance," Harriet Wistrich, lawyer for the de Menezes family, told Channel Four News.

The ITV report indicated the operation was flawed from the start as police monitored de Menezes' block of flats in Tulse Hill, south London, where they believed two suspects in the July 21 attacks were living.

The undercover officer who was supposed to identify anyone leaving the building admitted he had been away from his post when the Brazilian left, "relieving myself".

"At this time I was not able to transmit my observations and switch on the video camera at the same time. There is therefore no video footage of this male," he was quotes as saying.

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    Well, they got their execution rights.

    The undercover officer who was supposed to identify anyone leaving the building admitted he had been away from his post when the Brazilian left, "relieving myself".

    "At this time I was not able to transmit my observations and switch on the video camera at the same time. There is therefore no video footage of this male," he was quotes as saying.

    ITV News also revealed that de Menezes -- whose death brought to light a secret Metropolitan Police "shoot to kill" policy in dealing with suspected suicide bombers -- was restrained by an officer before being shot eight times.

  • The Funeral of Jean Charles de Menezes ◊ by suskind

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  • by Oui (Oui) on Wed Aug 17th, 2005 at 06:28:59 AM EST
    I'm quoting British blog Lenin's Tomb in full, emphasis mine:

    Well, I'm having a hard time believing some of this. Let me give you a run-down on what's on the ITN News Channel:

    1. On the day, a senior firearms officer had said that if they had the opportunity to challenge anyone emerging from the block of flats, and there was non-compliance, it would be appropriate to intervene with a fatal shot.

    2. No subject coming out of the address should be allowed to run. (Incidentally, the only reason the address was identified was because one of the would-be bombers of 21/7 had the address of a gymnasium there in his bag).

    3. De Menezes was observed, after the intelligence officer had finished taking his piss, walking to the bus station in his blue denim jacket, carrying no bags. His description and demeanour were noted, and it was agreed that he matched the profile of an alleged suicide bomber. How? ("Mongolian eyes", I suppose).

    (This is a reference to an interview with a participating police officer about why Menezes looked suspicious. Seriously!)

    4) Gold Command, on the basis of this, gave the okay to shoot-to-kill.

    1. Having taken the bus from Tulse Hill to Stockwell, he walked to the tube station, entered at "walking pace", picked up a Metro, and walked through the ticket gates with his Oyster card. He walked across the concourse and began "slowly descending" the escalator steps.

    2. He only ran to catch the tube as it arrived, entered the carriage, looked right and left, then took a seat facing the platform.

    3. Here is where it gets strange. He is supposed to have been shot after having been chased and wrestled to the floor. But an intelligence officer's statement says he followed Menezes down the stairs and onto the tube. He was apparently beckoned by police, who did at that point identify themselves. "He stood, and walked towards me", the intelligence officer said. He grabbed Menezes, pulled his arms behind his back and pushed him back into the seat. "I heard a shot in my left ear". The intelligence officer said he was pushed to the floor at that point. A number of officers shot him in the head, seven times. Three bullets missed. One went into his shoulder.

    Split-second decision? That is murder in cold blood, following the procedures laid out in the shoot-to-kill policy.

    What was also disgusting was the performance of a former Metropolitan Police officer, some kind of bigwig named Peter Powers. That fucking animal of a man did everything he could to justify the killing, saying how terrible it was for the police, a decision made in the space of a few minutes etc. Then he said "I don't know for sure whether we can say that Mr Menezes was totally innocent". Probed about this by a bemused news anchor who noted that the police had already admitted that he was totally innocent, Powers said, "I just find it difficult to believe that he would be shot for ad hoc or whimsical reasons. And I, er, don't want to prejudice the enquiry that is ongoing."

    It isn't enough that the police have consistently and persistently lied about Menezes with the effect of smearing him - first as a suicide bomber, then as someone whose behaviour made him a likely one. This prat has to add to it by implying, baselessly, that he might be guilty of some suicide-bombing-related-activity after all.

    If there was any justice, the shoot-to-kill policy would have died with Mr Menezes on that tube. But no. You have to "destroy the brain instantly, utterly". They did that alright.

    This is a fair price for getting the real terrorists next time. For it can't happen to you. No, it can't happen to you. Repeat...

    *Lunatic*, n.
    One whose delusions are out of fashion.

    by DoDo on Wed Aug 17th, 2005 at 07:04:31 AM EST
    Thanks for this diary, Oui.
    I posted this comment over at BT:
    Now, the de Menezes' family solicitor is weighing in, see this story from the Guardian:
    In the wake of a leak from the independent report last night, which revealed eyewitnesses seeing Jean Charles de Menezes held by police in his seat before being shot in the head, attention has now turned to the initial accounts of his death - which claimed he ran from police, vaulted a ticket barrier and was shot on the floor of the carriage.

    Today, his family's solicitor, Harriet Wistrich, claimed the police must be "partly responsible" for the accounts.

    Asked on the BBC about the Metropolitican police commissioner, Sir Ian Blair's position over the initial version of events, she said: "There are certainly questions arising about how this false and misleading information was released in the first place.

    "The police must have been partly responsible for that because it was the information that was given to the pathologist who performed the postmortem examination."


    If this information is confirmed, then the Metropolitan Police will have a major credibility problem in the future.
    by ask on Wed Aug 17th, 2005 at 07:52:59 AM EST
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    Professor Paul Rogers, of Bradford University, said the Met's armed officers' actions appeared to have parallels with methods used by Israeli security forces and US troops in Iraq.

    He said 'The tactics the Met appear to have used this morning are very similar to the very tough tactics that the Israelis use against suspected suicide bombers.'

    In the Middle East, security forces tend not to shoot suspects in the chest or abdomen because of the risk of detonating explosives on bombers' waistcoats.

    Prof Rogers said: 'To be blunt, they go for a head shot.

    The Road Map became the Road to Baghdad Map


    London Met Police - Anti-Terrorist Branch SO-013 trained by Israel's Shayetet 13?

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  • by Oui (Oui) on Wed Aug 17th, 2005 at 11:30:10 AM EST
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    the Road to Baghdad Map

    That's a good one, Oui. But who believed in the Road Map anyway?

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Aug 17th, 2005 at 11:42:40 AM EST
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    The family's lawyer is a incredibly cool about this...

    Asked on the BBC about the Metropolitican police commissioner, Sir Ian Blair's position over the initial version of events, she said: "There are certainly questions arising about how this false and misleading information was released in the first place.

    Questions? How about cover-up? This is the situation that we have allowed government to get to...when a problem presents itself, just lie about it...or if not lie, then just cloud the issue with so much extra and unimportant information that the issue gets lost in the fog.

    by gradinski chai on Wed Aug 17th, 2005 at 08:11:55 AM EST
    or in America it's the 'baffle em with bullshit' theory, lots of theories and lots of bullshit to cover up who screwed up and what the real facts are.

    "People never do evil so throughly and happily as when they do it from moral conviction."-Blaise Pascal
    by chocolate ink on Wed Aug 17th, 2005 at 10:43:28 PM EST
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    Ian Blair is a THUG not a SIr. He's the lowest form of human life on the planet. He's typical of "police professionals" I am not talking about the cop on the beat. I am talking about dectectives, and super secret police groups...these are the dumbest fools you could ever run into who are so full of their own self importance they feel free to shoot a man seven times or how ever many times in the head and then lie about it. I thought stuff like this only happened in America. But then Britain and Tony the THUG Blair seem to be following in lock step with the idiot Americans. I hope England isn't getting dummied down like we are and you people are getting lazy in your thinking.
    by Stu Piddy on Thu Aug 18th, 2005 at 10:38:57 AM EST
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    Breaking News The Guardian ::
    Sir Ian Blair Tried to Stop IPCC investigation!

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    by Oui (Oui) on Thu Aug 18th, 2005 at 12:07:49 PM EST
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    Great diary.

    It's saddening how much spin they put on this event straight away and scary how various establishment types don't see why it is of concern.

    by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Thu Aug 18th, 2005 at 01:49:08 PM EST


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