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WSJ (Op-Ed): Those Ignorant Germans

by DowneastDem Wed Jan 18th, 2006 at 03:58:52 PM EST

from the front page. Title edited and some content moved below the fold. --Jérôme

You would think that the US neoconservative establishment would be thrilled with Angela Merkel's performance in Washington on Friday. She was tactful; she did not bring up unpleasant matters like torture, rendition, the disaster in Iraq. She almost reminded us of Helmut Kohl's well-behaved Mädchen. But the editorial staff of the Wall Street Journal is still angry at Chancellor Merkel's muted criticism of the US gulag at Guantanamo:

It would be nice to think that all is now well between Germany and the U.S. Not yet. Take Mrs. Merkel's decision publicly to broach the subject of Guantanamo, which, she told the German newsweekly Der Spiegel earlier in the week, "can and should not exist in the longer term." This was putting the matter with great tact. Yet the fact that it was put at all suggests how much remains unwell in this relationship.


No, the neoconservative editors at the WSJ are furious at the German people for failing to see the wisdom in a policy of unilateral preemptive war and torture.  Things are developing splendidly in Iraq and the world - thanks to the brilliant courage of the Dear Leader George W. Bush. But the German people are too ignorant to see this, and this is damaging relations between America and its erstwhile protege:

But they are also typical in that they indicate the degree and extent of ignorance and misinformation common among Germans about U.S. policies and American life. One-third of young Germans reportedly believe the Bush Administration instigated the attacks of September 11. Amerikanische Verhaltnisse--"American Conditions"--is a term of disdain in German politics, meant to suggest the inhumanity of American capitalism. Press reports repeatedly portray the U.S. as a place in which the have-nots are savagely exploited by the haves, where civil liberties are in rapid decline, and in which a government that is by turns buffoonish and cunning schemes to gain control of world oil supplies.

Now how could people get an impression of the "inhumanity of American capitalism".  The videotape of the human catastophe from Hurricane Katrina must have been fabricated by the German media. Civil Liberties in rapid decline? Why would should they be upset that millions of e-mail and telephone communications of American citizens are being intercepted by the NSA -without court order and in violation of the US constitution - each hour?

The WSJ ends its anti-German piece with a threat:

Until Mrs. Merkel deals head on with the moral and intellectual rot that now passes for sophisticated discourse in Germany, the battles of the past will not lie and the alliance will not be restored.

But the true moral and intellectual rot is the policy of the Bush administration and its enablers in the media led by the editors of the Wall Street Journal.
(cross-posted at Dialog International)

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while she got on board with bush's 'iran nuclear power unacceptable' schtick and aligned her country and a major part of europe into a pro- and pre-coalition mentality.

i wonder how many will hit the streets worldwide if iran is attacked.

many, i feel.

she's making a bad bet...between iran's ability to double the price of oil overnight, and russia's longterm interest in supporting iran, and controlling the fossil fuels that keep germans from freezing to death, nothing the us or israeli airforce can do will better the situation, short of dropping off ipods and solar panels.

it'd be one thing if iraq was going so swimmingly....

just as with saddam, time will phase out these lunatics all the quicker if we allow the good aspects of cultural globalism to occur, without poisoning the mix with military murder and resource-grabbing.

all in the name of the prince of peace....

Help me Lord...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Jan 16th, 2006 at 10:53:39 AM EST
Der Spiegler has a frontpage article on their website that gives a fairly good response to the WSJ as presented by DowneastDem.

God versus the State

Teaser quote:

What Americans see as naturally paired -- individualism with tradition, Christian fundamentalism with open markets -- have been separated in Europe since the Thirty Years War.

The journalist, Alexander Gauland, does make a mistake by buying into neocon/neo-liberal propaganda when he wrote:

...Americans are used to minimal government...

As there hasn't been "minimal goverment" in the US since the militarization of the US economy in 1940.  Without the constant flow of funds, direct and indirect, and political support for the major corporations they would have fallen into bankruptcy decades ago.  

Other than that, the article presents the German side of the fundamental differences between the countries.  Something the "Free Media" (TM) in the US oddly doesn't want to push.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Mon Jan 16th, 2006 at 12:13:50 PM EST
I disagree with Gauland on several points (no wonder as I am no conservative), but good to see a German conservative drawing the line to US neocons.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jan 16th, 2006 at 05:30:24 PM EST
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Amerikanische Verhaltnisse--"American Conditions"--is a term of disdain in German politics, meant to suggest the inhumanity of American capitalism.

Actually, no - it more refers to the political culture. E.g., the picture they have of too much media presence, potemkin parties and all-show party conferences, lobbies stuffing politicians with money and so on.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jan 16th, 2006 at 05:25:48 PM EST
Well, it originally referred to urban slums, but it has evolved - especially over the last 5 years - to your definition, DoDO.

Dialog International
by DowneastDem (david.vickrey (at) post.harvard.edu) on Mon Jan 16th, 2006 at 06:15:00 PM EST
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I am not so sure about this interpretation, actually I have never heard the term Americanische Verhaeltnisse. SUED-Amerikanische Verhaeltnisse, in a reference to military dictatorships.

So if the term   Americanische Verhaeltnisse really exists it must be younger than 10 years. Since I left Gemany round about that time....

by PeWi on Mon Jan 16th, 2006 at 06:48:41 PM EST
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I can't say I'm surprised, as it's WSJ editorial board policy to piss on anyone who does not support neocon foreign policy and supply-side economics.  If you want a newspaper devoted to the markets, the economy, and more serious opinion, read the Financial Times.  (The Brits make better reporters, anyway.)  Don't throw money at these idiots by subscribing or by giving them more hits on the website.  It only encourages their advertisement business.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jan 16th, 2006 at 07:38:08 PM EST
Yes to the FT, especially as the Economist is increasingly shrill in support of Bushco, it's sad really to see them turn from opinionated to partial.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 17th, 2006 at 06:02:56 AM EST
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The WSJ is the premier source for neo-con propagada and as such has to be read, by someone, to keep track of what they are pushing.  So I'm glad someone is reading it.

Even gladder that someone isn't me!

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Jan 17th, 2006 at 11:25:35 AM EST
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yuk, i just saw wsj on fox for the first time last night.

kkkoncentrated kkkorporate kkkoolaide.

that's some evil shit they're peddling, with such cold, reptilian intent.

homo economicus at his most soulless.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jan 22nd, 2006 at 09:28:22 AM EST


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