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Schröder Interview in Le Monde

by Jerome a Paris Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 10:49:41 AM EST

A few random tidbits (all translations mine):

On the UK in Europe

First, I thought that alongside the Franco-German axis, I should look more to London. With time, that idea withered away. Not that I became an opponent of UK participation in Europe, but it clearly appeared to me that the relationship the British have with Europe does not make it possible for them to lead European integration like Franco-German cooperation does.

(...)

It appeared to me that there is a tendency in the UK to blame the EU for internal problems.

On Chirac

Beginnings have been tough because Jacques Chirac is a man who knows how to take advantage of beginners' lack of experience to push his politics. That's undisputable. He is a great European, but also very, very French. The position of France is extremely important to him

On European diplomacy

Because of its history, Germany has, after WWII, seen its foreign policy as integreated in a European policy. For France, the European dimension is a way to affirm its identity and its role in the world. But when onesays Europe in France, one always thinks Germany, and there has been a de facto rapprochement between the policies of both countries.

(...)

I note that beyond the transatlantic friendship, there are divergent interests, for instance on trade policy. Thus I plead for Europe to get stronger against competition. The more Europe is united, the more effective it will be. Compared to the USA, we are all medium sized countries. My idea is thus: France and Germany must form the core of an integrated Europe and build a strategic relationship with Russia.

About the Economist's suggestion that France "needs a Thatcher"

The Anglo-Saxon media thinks that one can and one must shape continental Europe in the image of the USA and the UK. It's a mistake. Things are just too different. The same people, in the 90s, gave advice to Russia. Results have not been such that we should absolutely do the same thing in France.


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"The same people, in the 90s, gave advice to Russia. Results have not been such that we should absolutely do the same thing in France."

Gerhard Schröder
Le Monde interview
November 4, 2006

"Despite the best that has been done by everyone . . . the war situation has developed not necessarily to our advantage."

Emperor Hirohito
Radio Broadcast Announcing Japan's Surrender
August 15, 1945

Very interesting interview. Why can't Anglo-Saxons have leaders this smart?

by Matt in NYC on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 12:20:14 PM EST
Hehe!

Exactly what I thought when I read that too :) Shades of Hirohito indeed.

by Trond Ove on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 05:07:50 PM EST
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I'd rather wonder why we can't all have leaders who talk like this when they're in office, and not afterwards.

Anyway, it's good to know Gerhardt shares a good chunk of  the kind of thinking that is often expressed on ET, as in:

The Anglo-Saxon media thinks that one can and one must shape continental Europe in the image of the USA and the UK. It's a mistake.

Yesss!

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 02:18:45 PM EST
If only half of his policies hadn't been following exactly that philosphy...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 02:31:13 PM EST
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Well, he's done more than most to distance Germany from the Anglo-Saxon world.

He did start as a third way-er, firendly with Blair, and ended up in a close embrace with France on a line very hostile to Bush's White House.

While I understand his calls for a strategic alliance with Russia, i must confess that I've never understood the way Chirac and him have gone about doing it.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 02:39:23 PM EST
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That was the politics, but philosophically he was  pro-big business (one of his nicknames was "Genosse der Bosse", or "the capitalists' comrade").

I remember when he said that Germany would not participate in the Iraq war. It was during his first re-election campaign, and he was in a televised debate with Eduard ("Clueless") Stoiber. The moderator posed the Iraq question to Edi first, who hemmed and hawed. By contrast, Schröder came out with a clear and unequivocal "Nein!", with no weasel room whatsoever.

And I've always wondered whether he meant to be so downright or if he just saw a chance to make points and add-libbed.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 03:49:28 PM EST
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BTW, Schröder is now making furore in Germany with his new book. In it, he attacks his successor as unfit for the job, which was responded to with attacks on his record in government. All of it pretty petty.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 02:33:25 PM EST
Successor in SPD or as Chancellor?
by Trond Ove on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 05:09:41 PM EST
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As chancellor. Merkel.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Nov 4th, 2006 at 06:22:15 PM EST
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