Welcome to European Tribune. It's gone a bit quiet around here these days, but it's still going.

The last time Denmark offended the world

by BobFunk Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 01:30:45 PM EST

A fortnight ago the Danish conservative newspaper Berlingske Tidende posted an interesting article, indirectly commenting on the current cartoon controversy.

Titled 'Indignation over Denmark', the article describes how Denmark previously caused international indignation back in 1970. A few translated passages:


Friday March 20 1970 the editorial committee of the New York Times made an exception. Normally Denmark never figured in the headlines of the most influential newspaper in the world. What happened in this little corner of Europe was simply too unimportant. But as mentioned: this was no longer so. The Americans had to get informed of the situation, and spread across three columns one could read the horrifying truth: »Danes open a 4-Day Sex Show that Shows All.«

The occasion was, that a pornography-fare had been arranged in Odense - the birth city of HC Andersen, and that story had an out of the ordinary impact. From New York it flowed through the usual channels and reached the farthest outskirts of the world. Denmark was thrown into the spotlight of the world with the power of a tidal wave. And in the following years, no citizen in the kingdom could avoid taking position on the imperative problem, that the nation had gotten a stain on its reputation. "Danish morals" was not a highly rated concept in southern Europe, and what was thought of us on the other shore of the Mediterranean, one did not dare to ponder.

Already back in 1969, a Danish lady living in Italy had voiced her indignation in a newspaper opinion piece titled: »Our Disrepute. I feel an urge to let everybody home in Denmark know, that we Danes have a very bad reputation - at least down here in Italy. During the last two weeks, the widely-read weekly »Epaca« has had countless pages about the more and more easygoing morality in Denmark. Group families, porn, etc., etc. Richly illustrated. And our friends makes it clear to us, that what is said about the Danes, is hardly flattering. It hurts to hear, and you ask yourself, why it is like this. One would prefer to feel proud of one's native country.«

From the embassies, frequent reports arrived, about troubles carrying out the traditional duty to fertilize the ground for Danish business interests, now that the porn-industry had discovered an almost insatiable market for export. England had traditionally imported all kinds of Danish meat products, but now it was too much, and the 1st of may 1971 this newspaper was carrying the headline: »The British Offended by Danish Porn.« The Danish embassy in London had received more then 100 complaints from British citizens who had received pornographic materials from Denmark by mail. That was bad enough in itself. But especially one single case had resounded, since it was claimed that a women had suffered a nervous breakdown after receiving one of these shipments, and had had to be hospitalized as a result.

Display:
Of course 100 complaints from the British and a nervous breakdown can hardly be compared to the current diplomatic situation. But nevertheless, the parallels are interesting. Back then, the left wing of Danish politics was indeed leading a direct assault on the right wings political and moral values. Free sex, legal porno and women's right to choose, were at the core of the left's political agenda. And there was certainly no fear of offending the sensitivities of the religious right. On the contrary, constant provocations were part of the raging cultural war.

Today it seems that those on the left have no idea where to position themselves, now that the right seem to have taken on the role of provocateur. I've seen many statements to the effect of "free speech is of course one of the most important rights, but one should not use it to offend just for the sake of provoking." But wasn't this what activist artist was cheered on in doing, when the left was having its battles with an old world religious morality?

When did the left get so concerned about the sensitivities of moralists? Did the old left make a similar display of sympathy and understanding with offended catholic Italians or British housewives suffering nervous breakdowns, which I am simply unaware of?


Biilmann Blog

by BobFunk (bobfunk@clanwhiskey.net) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 01:32:31 PM EST
The difference is, as has been argued most forcefully by DeAnander, whether the offence is used by the majority as a way to harass the minority, or by the minority as a tool of liberation.

The left is split between solidarity with immigrants and civil rights. Back in 1970, sexual liberation and civil rights were part of the same battle. There is a similar contradiction over women's issues, in that they tend to clash with solidarity with immigrants.

The right doesn't have a problem. In the cartoon controversy, the winners are the civilization warriors and the losers are the moderates on the one hand, and the left on the other hand.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 02:25:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I actually think the left are completely responsible for being the losers in this case. The truth is that the left won the culture war very clearly in Europe. And, at least in Denmark, the population will almost instinctively side against those who claim moral outrage, whether it is over a nipple in the middle of the super bowl or 12 cartoons in a Danish newspaper.

The left needs to stick clearly to its secular principles, and it needs to realize that it cannot avoid confronting Islam without selling out of its core values.

I understand perfectly why there is a feeling that we should side with those who seems to be harassed by a majority. Especially considering the completely disgusting statements, relating to Muslim immigrants and Islam, that have become everyday occurrences in the Danish public sphere. But the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily a friend. In this case I think the left needs to oppose both sides with equal fierceness. The left needs to oppose those who try to make a cultural battle over religions role in society into a "clash of civilizations", as well as those who wish for religion to take on a greater role in our public and political life.

I also think the left is doing a disservice to moderate Muslims, by not distancing themselves clearly from the radicals. And I am sure those who sends young men to blow themselves up in the name of Mohammed, are doing far more to hurt the life of Europe's moderate Muslims, than the cartoonist who depicted Mohammed with a bomb in the turban.

Currently the nationalistic and racist Danish People's party is the big winners in Danish politics in the wake of the Muslim uproar. This, I believe, is the fault of a left that has managed to let themselves be depicted as having more sympathy with the radical imams, who likes to pretend they're speaking on behalf of all Muslims, than with the cartoonists who has been forced into hiding, who have received threats on their life, and who will most likely no longer dare to comment on Islam in their strips.


Biilmann Blog

by BobFunk (bobfunk@clanwhiskey.net) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 03:22:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The need to "confront Islam" is going to be a hard pill to swallow for the western left. Islam is a different civilization, and to take the confrontation to Islamic countries reeks of cultural imperialism and "the white man's burden" to civilize uncivilized peoples. On the other hand, I understand the right (and the need!) to protect our secular civilization from strangers hostile to our values. But this entails, for instance, instituting ideological litmus tests on asylum seekers. It is hard to be committed to an open society and at the same time make it closed to the other. I suppose the left went to sleep on its laurels after winning, as you say, the culture wars, and I see this controversy (and the violence now sweeping the muslim world has little to do with the cartoons: it's political) as a rude awakening.

They say a neocon is a leftist that has been mugged by reality. Let's hope that being mugged by radical Islam doesn't turn the European left into neoconservatives.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 06:30:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In this case I think the left needs to oppose both sides with equal fierceness.

I quite agree (and have said so elsewhere). The difficulty is that the current flame-up is not of our devising and did not come at our initiative. Those who state as a priority their opposition to religious extremists, are caught in the trap of appearing to defend xenophobic provocateurs. Those who state as a priority their opposition to culture warriors, appear soft on religious extremists.

It's extremely hard to articulate a convincing position that hits out positively and is not hedged around with precautionary clauses and the appearance of weakness. This is how the right-wing culture wars emasculate the left (see US).

My feeling, for what it's worth, is that we have to concentrate on those we want to help, the moderate, integrating Muslims, who (we hope) will make European Islam evolve. I disagree with you on the usefulness of the cartoons in that respect.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 05:23:18 AM EST
[ Parent ]
By way of the BBC...

An Iranian paper is holding a contest for cartoons about the Holocaust, to retaliate against the publication of images of the Prophet Muhammad.

"Does the West's freedom of expression extend to... an event such as the Holocaust or is this freedom of expression only for the desecration of the sanctities of divine religions?"

How about it folks...do we support freedom of speech? Maybe this is the way to get across our position. I think that there is a great misunderstanding in parts of the Islamic world. They expect hypocrisy because they have experienced so much hypocrisy. Maybe this is the way to show them that we mean what we say. One can be against the message but be willing to have it said and to protect those saying it.

Colman, maybe this is our first action alert? I'm not sure, so I'm just thinking out loud. What does everyone think?

by gradinski chai on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 11:38:09 PM EST
I'll post the cartoons all right.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 03:52:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 05:02:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I know.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 10:45:58 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Maybe this is the way to get across our position

gradinski, with the greatest respect, we don't have a common position.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 04:56:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Ditto.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 05:14:13 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I think this is the best responce to the Iranian cartoon competition that I've seen...

Biilmann Blog
by BobFunk (bobfunk@clanwhiskey.net) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 11:00:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yeah, and just look at the comments in that thread. Woohoo.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 11:08:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
They're something else.

A society committed to the notion that government is always bad will have bad government. And it doesn't have to be that way. — Paul Krugman
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 11:11:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]
First commenter I read says he learned about this great competition from fuckfrance.com.

That places it for me.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 16th, 2006 at 11:53:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]


Display:
Go to: [ European Tribune Homepage : Top of page : Top of comments ]