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Friday Photography Blog No.10

by In Wales Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 03:48:39 AM EST

We've hit double figures this week!



The blog is in two parts - one for "Night" because I'm having a bash at night time shots (with limited success) so I'd love to see what other people have.

The second part is for "Photos As Usual", whatever you want to post.

Please try to keep to 600 pixels width and less than 100kb in file size and take a look at Wednesday Photography Blog No.2 for the technical bits on how to post.

Please enjoy!

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"NIGHT"
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 03:49:20 AM EST
Taken in Venice at night but my tripod isn't up to it. I bought a new one yesterday which is rock solid.


by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 03:51:23 AM EST
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Ah, but it's beautiful! Love the colors and the light (and also the lack of light in the upper right corner).

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 07:44:10 AM EST
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Thanks tzt, I liked the colours on the water too but can't help feeling it isn't the best composition possible.  I think that because Venice is such a stunning place I don't feel it is possible to do it enough justice with a camera!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 12:33:29 PM EST
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Lovely photo.  I have one of Venice, the Grand Canal, take years ago but it's much darker than yours (no tripod - I used a bridge to support the camera.  For some reason, I like these long exposure shots.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 09:54:14 PM EST
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I enjoy playing about with long exposure shots too, that's why I've invested in a properly decent tripod because I kept getting annoyed by how flimsy my old was one when you need the shutter open for some time.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 05:17:40 AM EST
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Funny thing about tripods.  I have several, but my best one is a fairly heavy aluminum Manfrotto with a head almost as heavy as the legs - rock solid though.  I've never taken it on a long trip. Well one day I was strolling through an airport and you know how one has a tendency to take a second look at persons carrying  photo equipment just to see what they have.  Spied this tiny tiny Japanese girl/lady carrying a photo backpack with a huge tripod attached.  I was so ashamed at how totally lazy I've become!

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 10:31:37 PM EST
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If I can work out how to attach my tripod to the bag without making myself a menace to public safety every time I turn around then I'll carry mine with me whenever I specifically set off to take photos.  Even in daylight there are times when you decide to use longer exposures (I love my ND grad filters).

But if I didn't have something specific in mind and plenty of time to spend then I'd take a lighter one.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 03:46:28 AM EST
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I always take a tripod, usually a light one though.  The light tripod is adequate for my TLR medium format camera and small digital, but it will not hold a full sized SLR like my F100 and long lens.  Besides camera duty, the tripod makes a nice towel rack!  

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 10:27:00 AM EST
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This Venice at night photo was taken in about 1973 with a 35mm Yashica range finder camera, purchased in  1971.  When I was in Vienna a few years ago, I visited the "Leica Store" and was surprised to see this exact model Yashica camera on display among the vintage  Leicas and Contax cameras (in a glass display case no less.) Apparently the Yashica was produced shortly after Carl Zeiss passed away and Yashica purchased the Contax name along with the specs for and right to produce its Zeiss brand lenses.  My Yashica and lens cost about $50.00 new, and it still functions quite well.



I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:40:08 PM EST
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Walking shot with Kodak Z650.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 04:42:27 AM EST
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'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:23:58 AM EST
[ Parent ]


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 12:26:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]


Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 12:37:13 PM EST
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We are over the re-secularised Catholic festivity used to visit cemeteries in Central Europe. Three not too good photos:

1 November (All Saints') evening falls on a Catholic cemetery in a village, the multitude of candles begins to take over (unfortunately, I we were half an hour early for real night shots):

On the road separating the Catholic and the Calvinist cemeteries, both of which receive maximum traffic at this time, sweets sellers set up shop:

An image from a local cemetery I made an hour ago:



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 04:06:56 PM EST
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My first crappy attempt at a digital sky photo:

This is Perseus, with Algenib (α Persei) at center. The red arrow points at comet 17P/Holmes. This comet is now far away from the Sun, but, most probably due to a collision, burst up from 24 October -- brightening a million times, growing a coma larger than Jupiter. It is easily visible with the naked eye, check it out!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 04:16:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Alley:

Outdoor theatre:

Seasonal:

Available light:

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 04:49:35 PM EST
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Wonderful photos TBG.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 02:55:36 PM EST
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I'm a bit late and have forgotten which photos I've shown and which not.. Haven't had time for anything except school work for a while.





People looking at stuff happening on Spuiplein, The Hague, during the Today's Art festival.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 07:51:11 PM EST
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You have captured their expressions so beautifully, tzt.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 06:31:21 PM EST
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Without a tripod, night photos are harder...

Ponte Vecchio

Santa Croce

And a Paris picture :

Moon over Montparnasse tower, taken from the front of the Louvre. Coming back from the mini ET meetup... :)

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 09:31:40 PM EST
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Twilight on the patio. I spotted a reference to the Finnish flag and, in a burst of post-prandial patriotism, came up with this black velvet abstract. It wouldn't work without the tree.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 03:34:13 AM EST
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few of my "nights"



Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein

by vbo on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 08:44:47 AM EST
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Welcome to the Photoblog. I can't see your photos too well because I'm temporarily on dialup. From, what I can see, however, they look great.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 09:23:24 AM EST
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Thank you!

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 10:22:06 AM EST
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The second from the top (the black-and-white) especially draws my eye. Very enigmatic in the way we don't see the face. The casual clothing of the woman juxtaposed with the stylish, but rather stark decor makes it even stronger. I get an urge that the person poised in the chair doesn't want to be where she's sitting.

Wow.

by Nomad on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 12:47:51 PM EST
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How a photo can lie...



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 01:14:24 PM EST
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I've noticed before that the screen I use on my Internet computer considerably darkens images compared to other screens... Oh well - it sure gave a good effect.

What did you do to the picture to allow me (or everyone?) to see what was happening in the dark?

Even so, the poise of the person remains very tense and captivating... It doesn't convey (to me) a person who's relaxing... Now the bookshelf is visible the classy effect is reduced - I previously considered looking at a fancy hotel lobby!

by Nomad on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 06:07:46 PM EST
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Picture is dark and effective because of it. Dodo just put more light in it through computer software...but it spoiled everything. Yes pictures can "lie"...because they are products of what person making photo is seeing. That's why we can make photos of the same object and they can be totally different...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 07:02:08 PM EST
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That's why we can make photos of the same object and they can be totally different...

Exactly.. We had this assignment in school where we had to take a picture of a white egg on a white background. We were allowed to use only one light source (and it had to be the softbox), no effects, no props, no nothing. Sounds boring, huh? A white egg on a white paper? But still, everyone's photo was different. And many were actually quite interesting.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 07:33:25 PM EST
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I used gamma correction. One part of why she sits as she does is that the telephone she uses is a cord telephone, the cord is visible above. But her gait I think only shows that she wants to keep her talk private -- fearing her mother's indiscretion :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 04:58:32 AM EST
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Hahaha...You are right!;)

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 08:00:37 AM EST
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"PHOTOS AS USUAL"
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 03:49:55 AM EST
This colourful man caught my attention on the waterbus down the Grand Canal in Venice.  I kept bumping into him all over the place after that.


by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 03:52:32 AM EST
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I didn't take this one - that was a nice midwife called Val - and Sam did most of the work setting it up, but I sort of like it:

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 04:07:57 AM EST
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Can one already see what it is going to be? m or f? And looks like Sam is doing a great job setting it up. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 04:30:25 AM EST
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We didn't ask ...
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 04:32:06 AM EST
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That's nice, so it is going to be a surprise!
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 04:33:36 AM EST
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You did some work too, No?

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 04:47:30 AM EST
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Nothing very onerous.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 04:54:25 AM EST
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I am so glad that you two are going to have a baby!
Great!I wish you healthy and lucky baby!

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 06:41:16 AM EST
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Taken one year ago at 7:30 p.m. with Kodak Z650.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 04:29:36 AM EST
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it looks surreally clean....

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 02:48:02 AM EST
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The Old (Nostalgia)

The New (Fear)



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 09:15:07 AM EST
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'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:09:42 AM EST
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'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:14:08 AM EST
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'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:14:37 AM EST
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Much better! I should have checked the html myself... So to recap:

  1. As only linca had the sense to check and find out, you embedded the flickr thumbnails instead of the uploaded images themselves.

  2. What that basic html code you took from the New User Guide does is embed the image you link to: e.g., tell browsers to go to the image file hosted on Flickr, and display it in the page expanded to the specified width. In other words, that's only a display function, the file remains the same. (Unlike when you send an email: then you copy the actual file into the email.)

  3. If you have versions of your image 600 pixels wide or less, you don't need to add width="600" or similar into the image embedding html code (e.g. <img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2225/1813546032_94a5bcb103.jpg"> is enough for the above).

However, seeing the original 500 pixel wide Flickr version of your image, further comments:

The original has a size of 195kB -- definitely too big. I don't know what settings FlickrExport offers, but there could be two reasons:

  1. the re-sized jpg image is saved with not much compression (say at 95%, where 85% would be ideal),
  2. it is usually a good idea to sharpen a re-sized image, maybe FlickrExport does that automatically, but does so too strongly.

At any rate, some handy image editor would be better to control these properties.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Nov 5th, 2007 at 03:07:52 AM EST
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the colours look more washed out blogged than in iphoto.

is there something i can do about this?


'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:20:38 AM EST
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Probably this photo originally is (too) big format and when you resized it you get this.If that's the case I don't know what you can do except to try to resize it in a little bit bigger format...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 06:46:40 AM EST
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I always find that your photos come out far too chunky nad pixilated than others, I don't know wether this is down to your hosting service.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 06:52:23 AM EST
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How do you process the images?  I'm wondering if you set the file size/quality a bit too low so that the detail gets lost.  I tend to save jpegs at about quality 4 or 5 for the photoblogs. Looking at your file sizes you could easily save at higher quality and not create files that are too large.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 07:00:02 AM EST
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It must be something else. Too low jpeg quality looks like a video still, melo's pictures look as if they were re-sized to 200 pixels wide and then magnified again. I would be really glad to help melo in this, too, because even the above suggest really good original shots.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 09:29:20 AM EST
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That might be it - Melo, when you process the photos are they intially smaller than 600 pixel width, that you then incease to 600 pixels when you post on the blog?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 12:37:49 PM EST
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my camera takes quite 'heavy' shots, some are more than 4 mb in photoshop...if i email them they come out lovely, even if i reduce the size), i used to use imagewell to get my pix to flickr, then the demo stopped working and the reg didn't work, so i switched to flickr export, which works within iphoto, (though it ties it up until the pic has finished uploading, whereas imagewell didn't...

imagewell also gave me control over the size and weight of the file, letting me know how many k it was, whereas flickrexport doesn't.

some of the older pix were indeed taken with a video then sliced out!

i don't know how heavy these are, i was counting on someone telling me if they were slowing down the site...

now it seems like i should compress them less...

i'll try looking for a way to tweak flickrexport meanwhile.

on a mac.....!

thanks for the kind praise and the offers of help.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 04:35:46 PM EST
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I know nothing of macs!

But your photos are mostly around 23kb, none more than 30 or so so you can afford to compress them less that you do.

Maybe somebody with a mac can help out - Ted perhaps?

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 04:44:15 PM EST
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Or Colman.

But I suggest as a first excercise to take one single image (I'd take "autumn colours, perugia 1") and do 2-3 further versions with the same size but decreasing compression, and post them in a comment -- for us to comment :-) (We frontpagers can delete it later.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 05:35:33 PM EST
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Image size in Photoshop will do the job.

Save as JPG.

Flickr shouldn't do too much damage after that.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 06:02:14 PM EST
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melo doesn't seem to have Photoshop (neither do I for that matter). Can you suggest a mac freeware for him?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 01:38:54 PM EST
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Imagewell. You only need to pay for it if you want the advanced features.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 01:40:46 PM EST
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melo wrote a few comments back that he had imagewell, but its trial time run out.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 01:50:37 PM EST
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that's what scoop wants to do with the flickr capture, without me coding any size. in preview it's a bit less grainy. before i was asking it to make it 600 width.

in iphoto, which i use to suck the pix out of the flashcard in the camera, the pic comes out bigger and more luminous. if i drag them into mail to send to someone, they come out big and lively.

the camera is a samsung techwin, s1000 model.

i don't understand why with the same settings one pic weighs 167k, and another weighs 4.9mb...

anyone enlighten me?

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 12:09:04 PM EST
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Picture size depends on information content -- if your image is mostly black with some simple shapes, it could be 167k.

that's what scoop wants to do with the flickr capture

Is "scoop" some Apple program?

I don't use mac, but here is an idea: maybe what "flickr capture" does is screen-capture your photos, as loaded by iphoto into a small viewing window?

At any rate, I hope the Apple users here suggest you some good image-editing program, so that you control what's re-sized not FlickrExport/iphoto.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 01:36:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Scoop is the name of the software used to run ET...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 02:34:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Which is obviously not an image-handling software.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 02:37:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I still get the impression the scoop melo is talking about is the one running ET. e.g., Scoop does have a preview function...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 02:51:57 PM EST
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i was referring to the new user's guide where it has the code for introducing a pic....isn't that a scoop function, or is it basic html?

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 04:53:34 PM EST
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Scoop doesn't modify your image in any way, and includes the basic html code you put in your comment.

I checked on the pixellated pictures, and understood the problem : you are linking to the flickr thumbnails images (with an _m.jpg at the end of the name of the picture). Remove those _m, and the pictures will appear correctly...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 09:33:17 PM EST
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ta, linca, i'll give it a whirl...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Nov 5th, 2007 at 03:33:31 AM EST
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Macs are GREAT for image manipulation so whatever problems you are having isn't due to the computer.  And if you have Photoshop, the problem is not with the software either.  

Are you using the "Save for Web and Devices" command in Photoshop?  It is almost impossible to get it wrong with this wonderful feature.

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 08:18:22 AM EST
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i used to use photoshop quite a bit, mostly for tweaking caricatures out of normal pix...i never figured out how to layers right, and ran out of interest.

these days i import into iphoto, tweak a bit, mostly crop...sometimes the 'enhance' button makes nice changes, mostly not...

the adjust menu offers a bit of tweaking, saturation, contrast etc.

imagewell was a lot better, but i can't make it work any more, and flickrexport works, but i can't find any prefs to tweak in it...

thanks for your efforts to help, y'all!

i'm going to get aperture, i think, i hear it offers much more than iphoto, and is macfriendly.

meanwhile i'll try linca's suggestion...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Nov 5th, 2007 at 06:28:42 AM EST
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the stormy present or Gringo might guess who this is.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:31:36 AM EST
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Huh.  I really don't know.  Looks like a jurist (seated, and in front of a courthouse) but it's not familiar.  I could take a wild stab and guess John Marshall, but I'm pretty sure that's not right.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 11:24:16 AM EST
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Bravo, that is right! I thought you would get it. The photo was taken in Warrenton,Va., one year ago. His home was near Warrenton (15 miles) in, Delaplane, Va. right near the town of Marshall. I'll be going there today. My business partner lives right next to the old Marshall estate, and I think John Marshall might have once lived in my partner's house.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 11:34:42 AM EST
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No way!  I'm really surprised, it was just a guess.  I knew it wasn't the "famous" (relatively speaking) Marshall statue, but I couldn't think of who else it might have been.  I really should have recognized him, though; I used to work about eight blocks away from his "city" house!

I haven't spent a whole lot of time in Warrenton, but I've got a sibling who lives not terribly far away from there.  I hope you have a great visit!

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 12:01:19 PM EST
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It's early Saturday morning in Delaplane Va. I'm staying at my partner's house. I couldn't resist showing him our photoblog of last month where you recognized the picture of the Biograph. Strange things do happen on the internet; he was touched. I also hadn't realized that you had linked to the "ode" to the Biograph by one of our former employees; I missed it.
As for a little history his house was built by John Marshall for one of his sons. It burnt down early last century but was rebuilt on the original foundation.
I took some photos of the Marshall house, and will try to post them here. But I don't have broadband now so they might have to wait 'till I return to town later today,

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 08:22:05 AM EST
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Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 09:13:54 AM EST
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This is a picture within a picture.

I sent an image, shadow self-portrait, I took while hiking in California to a friend in Brighton, who pinned it to his wall and added a shadow of his own. So it's two layers deep, now, California/Brighton [via Paris].

Would anyone like to add a layer from somewhere else in the world? What you add doesn't need to be a shadow ...

by Loefing on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 12:43:13 PM EST
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When I get back to France I'll ask estHer if she would like to create an addition.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 12:50:37 PM EST
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Perhaps some information about the images in each step would make the experiment more fun.

So I begin: The original picture was taken during a faaabulous hike near Lake Tahoe, in the Sierra Nevada [California]. The area is extraordinarily beautiful to begin with but, in addition, my hiking partners plied us all with herb! I'd never hiked high before, heheh, and I've rarely had more fun with my cameras than on that occasion : )

It was afternoon, we were hiking down from Round Lake, where we'd picnicked.

As for the second layer, it was created by Andrew, a bright funny person, in Brighton, whose apartment is inundated with afternoon sun.

...

by Loefing on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 01:08:42 PM EST
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I really love this idea!  It also makes me wonder if anyone here would be interested in say picking an iconic photograph and then trying to reproduce it with their own twist or take on it?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 01:50:54 PM EST
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What is an iconic photograph?
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 01:54:37 PM EST
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Trying to think of an example - the Marilyn Monroe shot with her skirt blowing up in the air vent is an iconic one - instantly recognised and and a very strong image.  I'm not suggesting we all go off and impersonate her!

Images don't have to be of people.  I've got a complete blank right now!

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 04:39:53 PM EST
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einstein-s

Iwo Jima, 1945

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Times Square, VJ Day, Aug 14, 1945

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" 'No Caption Needed' argues that iconic images are an important example of how modern public life depends on the appropriation and recirculation of images across a wide range of media, arts, genres, topics, and audiences. We have built an archive of hundreds of examples of iconic image appropriation--that is, of how various retailers, advocates, artists, culture jammers, and others have reproduced, repositioned, altered, or otherwise played with iconic images for persuasive effect. For example, the Iwo Jima flag raising is found on commemorative medals, beer mugs, paperweights, fireworks, comic books, Christmas tree ornaments, and on and on."

http://www.nocaptionneeded.com/?page_id=2

iwo-jima-tatoo

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Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 09:08:23 AM EST
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The kiss sculpture is in Sarasosta.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 09:10:22 AM EST
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Thanks Ted!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 09:15:44 AM EST
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I never understood what Einstein's photo is supposed to elicit.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 09:18:18 AM EST
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I suppose it's the amusing contrast between Einstein's status as an eminent scientist and this childish act.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 09:23:08 AM EST
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and of course Scientist=adult=serious.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 09:36:19 AM EST
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A painting by my business partner who's become an artist late in life.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 11:03:59 AM EST
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by Loefing on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 02:36:32 PM EST
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'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 01:07:51 PM EST
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'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 01:08:08 PM EST
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'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 01:08:34 PM EST
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those last three were of a fountain in roma

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 01:16:19 PM EST
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This is some of what my daughter took during her visit to Roma *she made hundreds of photos)...



Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein

by vbo on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 08:16:45 AM EST
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beautiful!

rome is one long visual orgy...

she has a good eye..

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 04:36:53 PM EST
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'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 01:13:42 PM EST
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I enjoy discovering history so I get roped into preservation projects.  This church site has a cemetery with many of the more interesting Norwegian settlers in Minnesota--including the parents of Thorstein Veblen.

The flowers are from our prairie restoration project.

This is the stone church that was built by the immigrants.  It is interesting in that almost none of the construction materials traveled more than about 5 km.  The roof REALLY needed repair.

The steeple is in dreadful shape.  In some cases, the timbers have rotted through.

I got to design the replacement "vaerhane" (Norwegian for weather rooster) based on old photos (thank you photoshop) and a simple 3d illustration program.

Here is the proposed vaerhane photoshopped onto the completed steeple roof.

The big steeple parts were delivered to the site today.  Hopefully they will be craned into place next week.

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 04:57:01 PM EST
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Good photos!

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 08:19:25 AM EST
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'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 06:42:41 PM EST
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Cute! Thanks for all your contributions, Melo. (and everyone else!)
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 06:46:45 PM EST
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thankyou too!

fridays are special, so glad to participate...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 02:50:05 AM EST
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Clearly an anthropomorphic moment ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 03:36:31 AM EST
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haha, that's what my partner said when she saw it...

'she looks like you!'

fuck...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 04:11:56 AM EST
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'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 06:48:55 PM EST
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'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 07:04:59 PM EST
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i try linca's suggestion and it says this pic is temporarily unavailable...

sigh...

linca, should i just take out the 'm', or should i take out the dash before it, or the . after it? any other ideas? could this be a temporary flickr glitch?

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Nov 5th, 2007 at 06:44:57 AM EST
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take out the _ before the m too :)



Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Nov 5th, 2007 at 06:48:52 AM EST
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ok, will do, grazie mille!



'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Nov 5th, 2007 at 07:31:12 AM EST
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They're great. I can't post them here but if you click on the link below, click slide show and then set the speed to one second you can get an idea of the animation.
http://picasaweb.google.com/lenporyles/EstherThreeLittleFilms

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 09:48:46 AM EST
Heheh.  So cute.  The one with the cups made me giggle right out loud.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:02:00 AM EST
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3 musicians talking after a gig outside Bar Rafla downtown. 1 sec exposure, camera balanced on top of parked car.

Sorry - can't stop - major party to prepare for tomorrow night. 23 to seat, 10 small courses. Beverages to match. I shall be too tired to enjoy it 8-(

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 03:26:06 PM EST
A few shots of a Virginia Fall Hot Air Balloon Festival a few years back.

Finally, ruba dub dub!



I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 at 10:10:38 PM EST
Great shots.  The first one has a bizarre quality to it, it doesn't quite look real. Amazing how reality can be manipulated with photos.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 05:15:18 AM EST
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I was just going to comment that the top ones colours just looked computer animated, but you beat me to it.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 06:54:34 AM EST
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Actually, I did very little to the colors.  This is what you get when you use a highly saturated chrome (slide) film like Fuji Velvia.  Same with some of the sky shots.  You won't get this with negative film unless you use a polarizer (which I didn't)

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 10:28:07 AM EST
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Back when I still made photos on film, I once took some Fuji films (but not slide) on a vacation, and the pictures looked over-saturated like yours. (Didn't use Fuji before or after, so can't say if it is manufacturer-related or type-specific.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 10:40:05 AM EST
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It's mostly Velvia-specific. For example Fuji Astia is quite neutral, and good for skin tones and such where you don't need oversaturated colors.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 01:15:27 PM EST
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Velvia is/was very popular with pro landscape photographers because of the extra saturation.  Though everyone knows it oversaturates, the important thing was that it sold lots of pictures. I chose it for the balloon festival because I anticipated/hoped to see lots of color and I wanted the balloons to really pop.  These were taken before I even dreamed of photoshop.

Now, the other caveat I would make about these pics is that they were scanned to digital and my scanner has lots of hardware and software controls.  A couple (not all) of the scans were very undersaturated to begin with (my lack of mastery of the scanner) so rather than rescan, I added back in some saturation in photoshop.  However, the actual slides look very saturated on the light table and I think the scans I put on the blog are fairly close to the originals.  I still like film very much, but the new digital cameras are very appealing.

Has anyone seen the new Nikon D300?  

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 03:07:28 PM EST
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The D300 sounds so good. It really seems to sort the little bugs and not quite there features of the D200.

My eye is on the D3 (in my dreams).

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 03:26:09 PM EST
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What does the D300 sell for in the UK?  Here it will be about $1900.00.  They just keep getting more and more expensive.  That's about what the old top of the line F5 went for.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Nov 3rd, 2007 at 10:09:56 PM EST
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Around 1,200 pounds sterling = $2462 for body only. ($1900 is only  about 910 pounds)
D200 has dropped in price a lot though, not surprisingly.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 03:41:09 AM EST
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Well, unless you have to pay a large amount of customs on imports, maybe you could think about mail ordering expensive items from one of the large New York electronic stores. (See www.BHphotovideo.com, for example). Three hundred quid is no small amount.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sun Nov 4th, 2007 at 10:32:06 AM EST
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