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Friday Photography Blog #13

by LEP Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 03:51:15 AM EST

It's Friday again, believe it or not, and it's the day of our 13th photography blog. Along with our "Photos as Usual" section I invite you to present photos of your "Neighborhood" where you live, eat, shop, drink, etc., etc.
I'll start of with a photo of my own house taken from the back yard; what I call my "Hansel and Gretel" house. It's sixty kilometers south of Paris, in a small town, near Fontainebleau, of about 1000 people. The town is a mixture of old "agricultural types" who have lived there all their lives, and new younger people who commute to jobs in Paris or south of Paris. This photo was shot on a cloudy day in summer 2006.


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Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 03:54:10 AM EST


Deliberately out of focus. I like the colours.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:16:58 AM EST
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Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:26:57 AM EST
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She is so creative!  Great photos as usual.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 05:25:55 AM EST
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Esther has an amazing talent for seeing images in terms of frames - the mark of a true artist ;-) Most people believe that the mental proscenium framing has to be frozen during the process of recording. It can happen afterwards by cropping, BUT the image is recorded with that latent possibility.

What you exclude from a frame is as important as that which is included. Esther's talent is in understanding this and yet still remaining free and direct.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 09:39:20 AM EST
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Thanks for your great compliment Sven. I'll show it to estHer later but she won't know what we're talking about. It's nice to have a "gift" like she does.
I was showing my wife your comment and showed her the photo of the guitar two photos down which I had cropped and then I showed her the original. She said I shouldn't have cropped it. What do you think?
Maybe I just can't mess with a real artist's work.

Here's the original.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 10:17:25 AM EST
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Well, I wouldn't have cropped it as closely as you did:I might have taken about 10% off the bottom to emphasize the texture of the denser patches of leaves but that would be the most I'd do. I think it balances the shape of the thing a bit.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 10:32:42 AM EST
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This is getting interesting. I could make a separate diary on this photo alone called "Crop this Photo?"

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 10:42:15 AM EST
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I'd like to know how Esther wanted it framed. It's her photograph.  Personally, I think her camera framing is fantastic - she balances a person and a guitar and all that stands for, with dead, lightweight leaves. Purposeful walking with randomness. For me, it is not about people (otherwise there would be a face), it is just about weights - and a rather ruthless play with figure/ground ambiguity.

But I am sure Esther doesn't need any of this analysis - she is clearly the photo at the time it is taken.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 01:18:31 PM EST
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Scoop is freezing on me in Safari - sorry for this double post. According to what happened - neither of these posts were sent.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 01:22:25 PM EST
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Sven. estHer will reply to you when she finishes her homework.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 01:34:10 PM EST
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Well that put me in my place... ;-)

You know, the creativity of young people is the only thing which gives me hope. And there is a very fine balance between offering help and screwing up their vision. Many fine artists have been destroyed by regimented teaching, but also many fine artists have never seen the light of day because of their own misguided desire to conform.

What can we oldies do? Well I could say that we just need to be there like a reliable tap to be turned on when cool, reliable, refreshing liquidity is needed at a moment's notice. But, as you and I know. it's just about being there and being loving.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 02:23:25 PM EST
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Hi Sven. I preferred my original because I like the guitar in the upper right of the photo. Thank you so much for your compliment ! :D
by estHer on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 02:28:37 PM EST
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Esther. The perfect answer ;-)

One day people will ask you 'But why do you like it up there in the right hand corner?'

Don't fall into that trap until you finish school. After that you'll be able to give them some explanation that makes them happy. But you'll still know that you just like it up there in the right hand corner. Keep that to yourself ;-)

This is the secret of life.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 02:38:28 PM EST
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I also liked the original more, with not even a 10% cut, because of those apparent swirls. (There, I gave myself an explanation. I should be an art critic.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 02:46:09 PM EST
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Yep - the original had a bit more pertinent information in it than LEP's version, which was cropped for compositional reasons alone (sorry LEP). LEP thought the leaves were just a tiled background ie decorative. You need the perspective depth of the tarmac  to understand what the leaves are and how they got there.

There's a hell of a lot of information in the leaves ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 02:52:50 PM EST
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Everyone IS an art critic. It just needs the honesty and a bit of contextual understanding

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 02:55:12 PM EST
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I hate to complicate this fascinating discussion about life and leaves and swirls but I just found this photo on my hard drive taken 20 seconds earlier than the other one, that both estHer and I prefer.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 03:31:12 PM EST
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You're both wrong: the other one is much better.

Did you get my e-mail?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 03:48:05 PM EST
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Just found your email. I don't go to that box every day. I'll reply from my real email address.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 03:57:19 PM EST
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As with Colman, I prefer the other one - there is more to look at in there.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 03:49:37 PM EST
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In the original Esther framing, there are some important details. Only 3 fingers are used to carry the acoustic guitar in a  bag. The guitar neck points down at some leaves with almost a magnetic attraction. There's another 2 metres of leaves in the distance.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 03:57:43 PM EST
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This is Hector, the godson of Raphael and cousin of my wife.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 07:12:21 AM EST
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Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 09:21:56 AM EST
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harvest, north central kansas:

up the road:

winter wheat:

by town on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 01:14:01 PM EST
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Excellent photos-thanks.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 01:23:05 PM EST
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Such lovely landscapes.  I love the colour of the wheat against the blue sky.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 02:07:55 PM EST
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Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 02:45:54 PM EST
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Those rides don't look very robust!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 02:53:05 PM EST
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I would never get on one to confirm or refute your observation.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 03:04:08 PM EST
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in my neighborhood

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 03:55:31 AM EST
and my wife's garden from the side of the house. The large pine tree on the left was felled in October and I showed photos of that in an October photo blog. It had gotten so tall that we were afraid it would fall on the house in a storm.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:04:04 AM EST
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This scene has a timeless quality to me. For my eyes, the colors in your photo, aside from the lower left hand corner, almost look as if the picture was taken 70 years ago.
by Magnifico on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:32:43 AM EST
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What a lovely place LEP - I envy the calm you must have there - but 60 kms from Paris - though I know you've done your Montmartre time :-) In Paris last year I had almost the best of both worlds; a very quiet little pavilion in the courtyard of a block of flats in Port D'Orleans - from which I could be beside the Seine at St Michel in 15 mins by a metro, running about every 4 mins.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 07:32:03 AM EST
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That's the trade off Ted and that's why I took a little room in Paris. But you can buy this house (150 sq. meters) with 1200 sq. meters of land for about the same price as a 60 sq. meter apartment on an average residential street in Paris. With two kids that's a major consideration.
My personal tragedy is that I didn't know I was allergic to the country until after I moved here. But I found some cortisone injections that work. It's funny. As soon as I breathed the diesel infested air of Paris I was better.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 07:43:38 AM EST
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"Allergic to the country" - that's rough! - especially amongst us eco-freaks :-) Actually Nice is one of the most polluted cities in France, despite being on the coast. All the traffic pollution is made worse by all the sunlight - a mixed blessing.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 08:46:46 AM EST
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The Porte d'Orléans metro line actually has a peak frequency of 105 seconds... (and yes, metro drivers are supposed to keep their schedule down to the second.)

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 10:05:06 AM EST
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post of the parasol on the left.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:12:29 AM EST
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Actually these photos were taken yesterday when I cycled in.  Sometimes I walk, sometimes I get the train, and when absolutely necessary I will drive but not often.

Here is my complex from across the river, this ongoing construction is the reason why my car is always dusty.




The river goes from the town centre out to the Bay.  My walk takes me into town, up river. A few minutes walk away and you can see the Millennium stadium.  Town is always packed on match days so I stay in my apartment usually because to get almost anywhere, I have to go through the crowds!

Along the river one side are many industrial units, including the brewery.


On the other side of the river there are rows of terraced houses, nice big ones.


Then into town and across a bridge, we are opposite the stadium.


I cross over another bridge and then to the right is the castle and town centre, to my left is another area of town and 5 minutes away, my office. Ahead of me is Bute Park.


Here is the pedestrianised shopping street in town and the main roads past the castle, at night.



The building in the background is the tallest building in Wales (at the moment) and is where I used to work.
This is where this photo of town was taken from.


You can see the stadium but also next to it in that triangle is Cardiff Arms Park, our football grounds.

And here is the view from my office at rush hour. It is why I avoid driving in.


It's a great journey to work I think. Sets up the day!

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:15:40 AM EST
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The fall colors are beautifully muted in the picture along the river with the cat perched upon the bollard. The twinge of yellowish in the sky ties in with the leaves on the ground and the shrug.

I have a feeling that the cat has been there before, a long time ago. If not that cat, but another cat just like it. It is the place where cats, of its type, come down to the river to watch the stillness of time.

by Magnifico on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:38:39 AM EST
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Interesting tour of Cardiff, In Wales. Thanks.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:38:46 AM EST
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It looks like you've got ghosts walking on the "pedestrian" street.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:59:31 AM EST
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I used all my ND filters for that.  I had 2 ND4 filters and a graduated one, so I blocked out more light from the sky and was able to slow the shutter enough to make people blur that much.  I was quite pleased with how the experiment turned out.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 05:23:42 AM EST
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From my local farmer's market last Saturday. It was the last market day of the year.

by Magnifico on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:28:39 AM EST
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This photo makes me hungry. I'm going to take some breakfast.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:42:18 AM EST
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Heh. For me, this type of paprika is forever associated with the color-rich but flavourless supermarket paprika I met upon when in West Germany. The ones I eat look like these -- less colour but tasty:



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 09:20:13 AM EST
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What brilliant colours!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 05:18:19 AM EST
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I'll start off with a view from the bottom of my garden, taken this morning as the frost was melting from the valley.

Followed by the abandoned railway bridge over the river as I go into town.

and finishing off with the highstreet of my local town, at the end of the rushhour.(compare that to InWales rush hour photo, Bliss) The building on the right hand side with the clock tower, is the town hall and magistrates court. Dylan Thomas was once brought up there on Firearms charges, after an argument. He was found not guilty.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 05:17:42 AM EST
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You have such great views from your garden! And the xmas deccies are up in town too.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 05:21:24 AM EST
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When I go in this afternoon, I'll add photos of the Tree ;-)

I might go up into the hills this afternoon and add pictures of abandoned villages.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 05:30:33 AM EST
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I like abandoned villages.  There's one on the way out to Aberystwyth, probably not that far from you?  It was a village in an old quarry, everything built out of grey slate, with the hillside covered in nothing but chunks of slate and all that is left are the walls of some of the houses and some leftover bits from the quarry works.  Never knew the name of the area though when we stopped by.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 05:39:58 AM EST
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I think I know the one, it's out towards the brecons from here, probably 15 miles away. although there are quite a few in the area. the whole area is studded with abandoned lead mines and the ruins of the communities when they shut down.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 05:44:19 AM EST
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Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 01:28:51 PM EST
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In all it's rain-soaked glory!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 01:40:21 PM EST
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Would you like the idea to repeat last year's performance, and just before Christmas, do a Photo Blog Special Theme "Christmas lights"?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 01:42:38 PM EST
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Yes! Good idea.
Although in fairness it really ought to be "The Multicultural Festicular Decorations of an Illuminary Nature" Photoblog.  Not everybody believes in Santa Claus.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 02:02:20 PM EST
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What?? he dosent exist???

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 02:09:01 PM EST
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I didn't say that. I said, not everybody believes in him. There, there.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 02:13:36 PM EST
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<stops hyperventilating>

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 02:17:03 PM EST
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Well, I am an atheist, and for Catholics, Santa Claus comes on the eve of 6th December [e.g. Dec 5 evening] :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 02:12:30 PM EST
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Nah.  Santa is for northeners, we get the three wise guys on camels, remember?

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 04:58:44 PM EST
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Now tht you say it...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 05:13:44 PM EST
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Aren't they the sort of dodgy foreign types that Europes border controls are meant to keep out? (or are they the sort of rich well trained foreigner that's better employed as a shelf stacker or toilet cleaner in the european socialist welfare state)?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 05:16:50 PM EST
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Ouch.  Real choices.  

Get back to work on the goddammed boxes!

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Mon Nov 26th, 2007 at 02:16:38 PM EST
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  1. Do you have a bigger version of the first photo?

  2. Which line was that?


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 09:21:16 AM EST
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Yes, but it brings out all of the imperfections.  being able to shrink it means I don't have to work on a couple of problems, but if you want it I can sort it out ;-)

that was the line from Carmarthen to Aberystwyth

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 10:13:04 AM EST
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Lampeter! Correct guess?

(Once I should write a train diary about how I do this)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 12:31:42 PM EST
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lmao!  Hot freshly baked chocolate brownie for you DoDo!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 12:34:45 PM EST
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10/10 and a gold star!

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 01:29:35 PM EST
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On the first photo, I guess a twice as big version would be enough to bring out more details.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 12:35:58 PM EST
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(Turned sideways to avoid breaking the thread)



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 01:52:06 PM EST
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in Paris. For those of you who were at the Friday ET meet up last June at Chez Pradel it's on the 7th floor of that building. I try to spend two days a week there. These were shot last December with still some furnishings to add.

Chez Pradel:

There's a huge market every Wednesday and Saturday that runs for 3 or 4 blocks outside my door on Rue Ordener.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 05:41:27 AM EST
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Oh, I totally want a studio in Paris!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 05:51:53 AM EST
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Well, if I was 35 years younger, and unmarried I'd say "come up for the weekend." Well forget about the unmarried part (this is France you know); let's just say 35 years younger.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 06:05:28 AM EST
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Is this the bit where you ask me if I have had my car fixed yet, since you happen to be an expert at replacing CV gaiters in Clios?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 06:16:57 AM EST
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A guy can dream, can't he?

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 06:19:17 AM EST
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By the way, do you need any help developing your digital photos?

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 07:17:06 AM EST
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That is a new one, in Germany it is Stamp collections, in Britain Etchings. What euphemisms do other countries use?
by PeWi on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 10:20:48 AM EST
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His Euphemisms are keeping up with the electronic age ;-)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 11:44:16 AM EST
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I haven't had time (or courage, honestly) to go wandering around my neighborhood with a camera, but here are some shots of the "views" from my apartment.  Sadly, I don't live in one of Cairo's more picturesque neighborhoods, which are full of beautiful dilapidated old buildings; mine is composed entirely of ugly dilapidated modern buildings.

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Satellite dish farms have been planted on all the rooftops... they remind me of big plastic sunflowers.

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And rooftops have lives of their own, and people who live on them.  Here's a neighbor, reading (probably the Qur'an).

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And this one is not actually something I look at every day, but I think it's kind of a cool picture.  It's the breezeway in my building.

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by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 06:47:53 AM EST
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The huge number of satellite dishes always astonishes me.  Is it just for tv?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 24th, 2007 at 09:26:09 AM EST
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Yup.  There are probably still many PhD dissertations to be written about the degree to which satellite TV has changed the Arab world, even though it's been written about quite extensively for years.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sat Nov 24th, 2007 at 11:13:38 AM EST
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Thanks for the links, I take it that this is an important topic!  
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 24th, 2007 at 11:35:54 AM EST
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Xmas lights Nice Etoile shopping centre - the new tramway starts Sat. ! At Last !

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Music of the lights :-)

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Trad xmas lights and the light sculptures by Jaume Plensa in Place Massena, part of the tramway development project

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They're supposed to make you think about thinking, or what the sculptor was thinking ... or something :-)

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Or you can go to a nearby Indian restaurant and think about the menu.

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10 mins bus ride - Villfranche - where I and another Eurotribber had lunch the other day - outside in the sun.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 07:25:19 AM EST
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Lovely photos Ted. Are you staying in Nice for a while?

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 07:48:28 AM EST
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Unfortunately it looks as if I might be here a long time - as this is about the only place on the south coast where Montserrat can find appropriate work. I know lots of people would love to live here, but the city itself is not very nice (excuse pun). I much prefer Montpellier (as I've probably said) - which has lots of pedestrianised areas, far fewer motorbikes/scooters, and more nice, open squares with trees and cafes. Oh well, there are much worse fates :-) and nice little places like Villefranche (see photo) are easy to get to.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 08:25:30 AM EST
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Those light sculptures are fantastic!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 07:51:38 AM EST
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Well whatever turns you on :-) I'm afraid I find the sculptures rather dull and bland in form - they're all virtually the same ( and supposed to represent the 7 continents, though you'd never know unless told), the colours of the lights area a bit lurid - a bit too fairground or nightclub for me. We're going to Florence between xmas and new year to see some real sculpture :-)

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 08:18:54 AM EST
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I always enjoy your Photo series-
The restaurant shot was great. Lovely, rich color which seemed to me to fit the subject well.


Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 07:53:24 AM EST
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I really like the composition on the restaurant shot, too.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 07:54:36 AM EST
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Thanks very much - one of my ex-students, a pro photographer said: "Now that's what I call an Indian restaurant" :-)

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 08:29:01 AM EST
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Is that the "Bollywood Cafe" in the old town, btw?

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 12:51:54 PM EST
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It's called "The Indian Lounge" - sounds much more refined :-) 34 Rue Droite, just before Rue Rossetti.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 11:29:16 AM EST
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a view down the valley towards citta di castello

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 08:44:08 AM EST
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Lucky you.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 09:47:11 AM EST
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Gorgeous melo. You and ceebs are massively inspiring me to get out of the urban, find a secluded place one day and focus totally on gardening, hedge trimming and writing.

One day. Once I've actually made some money.

by Nomad on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 10:26:29 AM EST
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That is a stunning view.  Oh I wish I had that.  I want a studio in Paris and your view!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 02:08:33 PM EST
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lots of tree-neighbours!

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 08:45:21 AM EST
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'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 08:46:13 AM EST
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That works really well. What a stunning place.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 02:12:56 PM EST
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Our neighborhood-
all these photos are within a kilometer or two of our boat- most are  closer.


Both are the Port de plaisance, Paris Arsenal, near Place de la Bastille.


Best cheap lunch in Paris- 4 euros for a grec. Off Boulevard St. Michel


What Marcelle calls "Our faithful Boulangerie.


Regular patrons at our faithful pub. Motley lot---no?
Actually, anyone familiar with the art scene around the Marais will know the gentleman on the right, the lady on the left is deceased, so this picture will no longer aid the cops to find her, and the gentleman in the center I do not know.


The boucherie on Ile St Louis. All the round plaques in the window are awards for the quality and presentation of his products- earned at a competition, like a state fair in the US, that I don't entirely understand.


"Rioting student hooligans", according to Le Figaro. I call these evil-dooers  "Sausagistes"- hungry grevistes eating free sausage at Quai de la Rapee, across from the port Paris Arsenal, during the CPE strike.

Children's carnival at Bassin de la Villette- Jerome will remember this, perhaps. Littlest Sax player. Probably an illegal image- underage sax.
He played well.


On the way to school, at the end of Ile St Louis. My neighborhood  is incredibly rich in culture and people, and I am grateful to fate and my family for making this dream real.


"Daddy, I know what I wanna be when I'm big!"
What's that, my dear?

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 09:56:10 AM EST
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Well, Geezer. Glad to see you felt inspired to dig out and post these wonderful photos. I hope you'll be posting more in the future.
I'll give you a call when I'm in Paris.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 11:18:10 AM EST
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These are wonderful photos. It is lovely to see your personal view of Paris, that day to day bit.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 02:11:11 PM EST
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You are tied up at the Arsenal?

The canal is protected from wave action, but I'd imagine you must hear some nice lapping sounds on the hull.

Wonderful.

by Loefing on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:39:45 PM EST
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There is a lock separating the Canal St. Martin from the Seine, so the Port de Plaisance is as calm as a puddle.
The second picture in the series is of the Lock end of the basin.

Thanks all for the compliments. LEP's idea of neighborhood photos was a good one.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Nov 24th, 2007 at 06:03:15 AM EST
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In my "neighbourhood" was In Wales' idea. But the ET spell checker wouldn't accept it so we had to go with In my "neighborhood." You know, I always go with authority.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sat Nov 24th, 2007 at 09:17:33 AM EST
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Was it was my idea? I think I developed it out of something somebody else said. I can't remember now. Let's collectively take credit for it, since we all inspire each other!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 24th, 2007 at 09:33:22 AM EST
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Come on, LEP, turn the spel-chequer off.

That extra "u" isn't a bug, it's a feature.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Nov 24th, 2007 at 10:35:21 AM EST
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Is this your phrase of the week?

It isn't a bug, it's a feature?

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 24th, 2007 at 11:28:47 AM EST
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It's too French!

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sat Nov 24th, 2007 at 12:16:50 PM EST
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I should get my own camera sorted out...

This is presently my "backyard" - Melville Koppies, part botanical garden, part public space and hobo hangout. View towards the east.

That's my contribution, I'm afraid.

by Nomad on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 10:15:11 AM EST
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What is that tallest structure in the background?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 02:17:27 PM EST
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The Hillbrow Tower, one of the emblems of the city.

Apparently it used to have a rotating restaurant on one of the top floors during the seventies... I wish they'd reopen that!

There's another tower one, too: the Sentech, or Brixton, Tower. If I'd have turned ninety degrees to the right, you'd have seen that one.

Both towers define the city. When I'm in Soweto, you can see Jozi in the distance, the two towers sticking out as giant needles.

by Nomad on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 02:48:44 PM EST
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That'll teach me to not reload before I start replying! ;-)
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 03:07:00 PM EST
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I only beat you some 15 minutes... :) My record of beating someone in these kind of threading is 7 seconds; I don't think I'll improve on that.

Anyway, your additional Ponte commentary is just as valuable.

by Nomad on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:29:04 PM EST
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Ah, I miss that skyline.

That's the Hillbrow Tower, a telecommunications tower and (at the time it was built, at least) one of the tallest structures in Africa.  It's named for the neighborhood it's in, Hillbrow.

The Jozi skyline is dominated by two large telcom masts on either side of the downtown area, the Hillbrow Tower in the east and the Sentech Tower (also known as the SABC tower) in the west.

The building just next to the Hillbrow tower in Nomad's picture is another local landmark, a large cylindrical apartment bloc officially named the Ponte Building but colloquially called the Vodacom Tower after the neon advertisement that circles the top of it.  (Once upon a time, it was a giant Coca-Cola logo, so I assume they called it the Coke building then or something.)  When I first moved there it had become a virtual no-go zone, completely taken over by gangs & thugs, but apparently it's been gutted and renovated lately.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 03:03:50 PM EST
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The Coke building???? Double entendres rule supreme, as I learned that lots of druglords were operating from De Ponte for a while...

But yes, the Red Ants have moved in. One of my housemates, who's one of those crazy surfer guys, regularly goes to De Ponte to abseil down from the roof (!!). He told me that 4 years ago, they only dared to get in wearing bullet proof vests. Now the scariest things in the building are the smells and the elevators - they don't stop properly, but oscillate up and down for a while but the doors have already opened...

I briefly considered to get one of those new apartments, but the areas around De Ponte are still rather rough. If I had the money, I'd follow what is described in your linked article: buy it as investment. I'm pretty sure that within 5 years time one'd make a large return.

by Nomad on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 04:24:21 PM EST
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Oh my, the Red Ants.  I've seen them in action plenty of times.  There were gunbattles when they started clearing the shacks in Alex.  I asked one of them once whether he had any qualms about doing that sort of job, and he said something along the lines of, I was moved this way, my parents were moved this way, and I need the job, if I didn't do it someone else would....

I remember when even the cops wouldn't go into the Ponte, and I wondered if it was even going to be possible to clear it.

Regarding your roommate's passtime, I guess I need to be thankful that I have enough excitement in my life that I don't feel even the slightest need to jump off a building in Hillbrow in my spare time.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 05:55:08 PM EST
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snow roof and sky:

chimney sky:

inside:

looking out in warmer weather:

looking out today:


by town on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 01:30:31 PM EST
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All that snow! Where do you live?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 02:13:34 PM EST
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in the mountains of colorado
by town on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 02:54:16 PM EST
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The snow scene is my vote for N° 1 photo in the thread. Love it.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Nov 24th, 2007 at 11:02:21 AM EST
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Very lovely scene, town.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Nov 24th, 2007 at 01:38:09 PM EST
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These are very interesting. What camera do you use?

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 02:25:38 PM EST
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these were taken w/ a canon rebel-xt. [350D in europe, ims]

also use a canon f series 35mm slr and a nikon 35mm 'one touch'.

by town on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 02:58:45 PM EST
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Stretching the definition of neighbourhood a little - today's project has been telling people how to create their own interpretations of the raw datasets you can find online in the Hubble Heritage Collection.

This is a first attempt. It's a little ragged compared to the results the professionals get, but not too bad overall.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 03:04:29 PM EST
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Hey, that's my neighbourhood too!

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Nov 23rd, 2007 at 03:15:29 PM EST
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Wow!

That's my favourite galaxy, or better said pair of galaxies: the Whirlpool Galaxy, or M51. It is near the tip of the Big Dipper, easy to find if you have a telescope with a lens/mirror at least 5cm across ('tho with that power you don't see much more than a blob).

In a first episode of my never posted Astronomy Blogging series, I wanted to explain that there is no such thing as true-color image in astronomy, your beautiful edit underlined that.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 08:53:50 AM EST
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The view from home that was used for the initial ad for ET on DailyKos:

Almost the same view, on other days:

The view from above:

My building

(btw, you can find a picture of every single in Paris on pagesblanches.fr: just insert the address, and if you select "plan" (map), you can then get access to a picture of the building - and of what's across from it)

This is what's straight across from home:

And my sidewalk on a quiet Saturday morning:

And, of course, the ubiquitous Velib stations, this one just round the corner:



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 24th, 2007 at 04:11:55 PM EST
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After four years of chaos - the tramway was officially opened in Nice, with free rides - if you could get on:

full-tram-40812

Lots of the work has been finished, most pavements have been re-laid, but there is still stuff to finish:

mess-tram-40817

The building on the right is supposed to become a new mediatheque - in 2008. I'll believe it when I see it.

Now there's now space to walk past pavement cafes in comfort - this one is not satisfied with being on the Cote D'Azur.

cafe-pacific-tram-40830

Now, having done our bit for cutting CO2, in January all the smokers (and there are so many of them in France) will have to keep THEIR pollution outside:

gaulloise-tram-40826

 Avenue Jean Moulin is more like an avenue again, while Avenue Malausenna is mercifully free from cars.

night-tram-40837

Unfortunately lots of the traffic has been shunted into our little street which runs parallel. This is a quiet time - during rush-hour it's jammed with tooting cars, buses and lorries. Still, it's called Rue Diderot - one just has to be philosophical.

diderot-night-40839

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sat Nov 24th, 2007 at 05:19:37 PM EST
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The building on the right is supposed to become a new mediatheque - in 2008. I'll believe it when I see it.

What was it earlier? A railway terminal, or some marketplace?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 08:58:49 AM EST
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Yes, a railway terminal.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 11:23:51 AM EST
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Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 08:14:10 AM EST
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The whole family live in my back tard...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 08:18:24 AM EST
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I have already shown my neighborhood at night and in snowfall. Below a selection showing other parts/faces of the area.

I live in the historical core of a smaller city not far from the capital Budapest. It was established as a bishopric seat almost 1000 years ago, but was destroyed in war several times, the now visible surface is (starts with) Baroque. Most of the houses are single-floor, and L-shaped, with a small internal courtyard. Here is a street nearby, with the Dome (the bishop's cathedral) visible:

The ugly electric pylon and the state of the road are also part of the cityscape. My city feels itself shunned by tourists and for-tourism investment compared to Szentendre on the other side of the Danube. You also see many cars but no people. Also see this pedestrian side street:

...and look at this garden wall alongside another walkway:

Indeed this town is rather silent. I don't mind that at all. But young people, especially those inhabiting a students' hostel (ugly five-floor concrete tower) nearby, seem bored and lacking ideas of what to waste their time on. A late-open grocery store nearby seems to make most of its money from selling alcohol on Friday nights, and a lot of customers seem to be minors... who then sitz down on the edge of a square or the pavement on a side street, and just drink themselves full, talking silently. So dismal.

But let's walk on. Where the road leading down from the Greek Church meets on the street heading for the ferry station (with another ugly bent electric cable pylon):

...which leads me to what rules the city -- the Danube. The city was built on high ground for a reason:

This is the same stairway as visible on my second snowfall photo, but this time with flood. The 'normal' rivershore is the third line of (lower) trees in the distance (and 2-3 metres deeper). Here is the Blue Danube in normal weather, looking upriver and Northeast at the exit of the Danube Bend (where the Danube cuts through a mountain range):

At night, when there is fog over the river, and I walk the dog on the real shore below the high dam-wall with the river promenade on top, lights are other-worldy -- looking from beyond the border of Darkness and Light:

This diary-length contribution was insprired by In Wales's parallel diary.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 08:22:48 AM EST
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I like them very much....good job.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 08:32:17 AM EST
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This makes me realise how little of Europe I have seen - especially away from the tourist spots. Thanks for your photos, I would love to visit the area one day and many other places that people have posted their photos of.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 09:55:02 AM EST
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Very nice photos DoDo. Thanks.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 09:55:31 AM EST
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The first five photos also demonstrate that there is nothing straight or at right angles in my neighbourhood, even the walls aren't vertical. In my house, there is not a single corner where the walls are at right angles.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 10:05:03 AM EST
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you put your finger on exactly what i immediately resonated with in the architecture.

there's a geomantic sense of architecture married to the spot it emerges, that one sees with old buildings so often, and so rarely in the new...

man's alienation from the land that birthed him...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Nov 26th, 2007 at 09:45:55 AM EST
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My granddaughter and a friend in my back yard...

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind...Albert Einstein
by vbo on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 08:26:16 AM EST
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OK, that's it, everyone.  You all live in far more aesthetically pleasing environments than I do.  I'm coming to visit.  All of you.  Get ready.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 10:36:59 AM EST
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How about 'In Wales and Stormy Do The ET Trail'?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 10:42:33 AM EST
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Now that sounds like a plan.  The world may never recover.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 10:58:17 AM EST
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And you think you're not going to get visited in my attempt to complete my set of the seven wonders of the world?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 10:45:17 AM EST
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Huh.  I thought we got delisted, much to Zahi Hawass's annoyance.

At any rate, you're more than welcome, in all seriousness.  In fact, I vote for an ET meetup on the Nile....

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 11:01:02 AM EST
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You don't scare me. Just a couple of day's notice will suffice. And I'm hoping you'll make next year's Paris meet up too.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 10:45:46 AM EST
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I hope so too!  I've never actually been to Paris, other than the airport.  This is hard for some people to believe:  I've been to Lagos and Luanda and Goma and Baghdad, but never Paris.  What an idiot.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sun Nov 25th, 2007 at 11:04:12 AM EST
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