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Reprise: What is it called when everyone votes for a dictatorship?

by poemless Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 04:52:57 PM EST

Posted sometime back on EuroTribune. Then disappeared. Now back, at the request of rdf, to contrast and compare with his Capitalism and Democracy Diary.

Frequently asked questions:

Is Chavez a Dictator, or does he respect Democracy?  

Is Putin an Autocrat or Strong Leader?  

Is the US a Representative Democracy or a Plutocracy?  

Is Nationalism always Fascism?  

Can Co-ops be Capitalist?  

Can Socialism and a Free Market co-exist?

I'm an expert in neither political science nor economics, and don't want to survey in one blog entry what academics will spend their entire lives trying to wrap their brains around. Not unless someone's offering me tenure.

But I have the unsettling feeling that we've entered a chapter in history when the dictionary is failing us.  Words have lost their meaning.  And we are confused - not just by the insanity we read in the news, but by our own inability to express just what's insane about it.  First I though it was just me, in the throes of shock, having witnessed my own dear country's tail spin into despotism.  Then I read that diary about our brains and was reminded once again that when you have a square and life hands you a circle, it might just be that what you've been calling a square is, in fact, not one at all.

So I'd like to take a step back and shine a light on some things we've been taking for granted, which have been the foundations for our positions on all issues, and suggest that they are just ill formed ideas (the nerve, I know...) and that any solutions will require radically altering our way of describing the world.  I'm not advocating "re-framing" but putting these words into the museums where they belong.


Catalogue of works slated for the Natural History Exhibit:

Democracy:  literally, rule by the people (from the Greek demos, "people," and kratos, "rule"). The methods by which this rule is exercised, and indeed the composition of "the people" are central to various definitions of democracy, but useful contrasts can be made with oligarchies and autocracies, where political authority is highly concentrated and not subject to meaningful control by the people.

Used in a sentence:


"Iraq's young democracy still faces determined enemies," Bush said. "Defeating these enemies will require sacrifice and continued patience -- the kind of patience the good people of Hungary displayed after 1956."

Capitalism: economic system based on the production of commodities for sale, exchange, and profit; and private ownership of the means of production.  Contemporary capitalism is often described as the free market economy or free enterprise economy, with reference to the distribution of income largely through the operation of markets.

Used in a sentence:


"The Kremlin hopes the increasingly aggressive consolidation of the industry at home will make the export trade a cornerstone of its system of state capitalism before the post-Soviet decline that has plagued production becomes irreversible."

Free Market: a market where price is determined by the unregulated interchange of supply and demand. ... According to a more philosophical definition, a free market is a market where trades are morally voluntary and therefore free from the interference of force and fraud. ... Hence, with government force limited to a defensive role, government itself does not initiate force in the marketplace and the free market is preserved.

Used in a sentence:


"Free-market drives cheat's 'coursework-to-order' cost as low as £2.70"

Socialism: a broad array of doctrines or political movements that envisage a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to social control. As an economic system, socialism is usually associated with state or collective ownership of the means of production. This control, according to socialists, may be either direct, exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils, or it may be indirect, exercised on behalf of the people by the state.

Used in a sentence:


"Former congressman and star quarterback Jack Kemp once said that "...a distinction should be made that football is democratic, capitalist, whereas soccer is a European socialist sport,"

Communism: a political ideology that seeks to establish a future classless, stateless social organization based upon common ownership of the means of production. It can be classified as a branch of the broader socialist movement. Communism also refers to a variety of political movements which claim the establishment of such a social organization as their ultimate goal.

Early forms of human social organization have been described as "primitive communism." However, communism as a political goal generally is a conjectured form of future social organization which has never been implemented.

Used in a sentence:


"And, of course, as Hannah Arendt taught us long ago, if something is the same as fascism (as many things are these days) then it's also the same as Communism."

Authoritarian: a form of government characterized by strict obedience to the authority of the state, which often maintains and enforces social control through the use of oppressive measures.

In an authoritarian state, citizens are subject to state authority in many aspects of their lives, including many that other political philosophies would see as matters of personal choice. There are various degrees of authoritarianism; even very democratic and liberal states will show authoritarianism to some extent, for example in areas of national security.

Used in a sentence:


"It breaks my heart to say it because they are the party I was brought up on, but Labour have become the most totalitarian, authoritarian government in history,"

Dictatorship: absolute rule by a leadership (usually one dictator) unrestricted by law, constitutions, or other social and political factors within the state.

Used in a sentence:


"US former Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs Roger Noriega declared Thursday in Santo Domingo that Venezuela is heading for dictatorship... According to Noriega, President Hugo Chávez has ... turned state bodies, including the army, into political agencies, Efe reported."

Nationalism: a form of identity that holds that (ethnically or culturally defined) nations are the "fundamental units" for human social life, and makes certain cultural and political claims based upon that belief; in particular, the claim that the nation is "the only legitimate basis for the state", and that "each nation is entitled to its own state." Nationalism also refers to the specific ideologies of various nationalist movements, which make cultural and political claims on behalf of specific nations.

Used in a sentence:


"Andy Byrne of John S. Herold Inc. describes Anadarko's move as "acknowledging that international rents on oil production are rising." That's a sober way of saying that producers have got to be terrified of the rampant nationalism that is threatening property rights around the world."

Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Used in a sentence:


"While Communism and Nazism posed threats through control of powerful states, the blogofascist menace is, like its Islamofascist counterpart, more of a loose network of highly motivated individuals."

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As you can clearly see, these models are quite wide open to interpretation.  So much so that they've lost their meaning.  Less subjectively, not one appears to be a comprehensive ideology and thus they must learn to co-exist to varying degrees, depending on the preferences of the leaders or their constituents and practicality.  Meaning?  No holy grails in here.  No laws governing the Universe, no sacred cows, no perfect ideal.

I do not have new words to replace those which have failed us.  We can talk about "Social Democrats" and "Democratic Libertarians" and "Free-Market Liberals."  Hell, you can also call yourselves "National Socialists" and "Neo-Communists" (I just made that up, sure there's some angsty teen out there who'll embrace it.)  These remind me of the infinite sects of Christianity.  You'll be hard-pressed to find a human who doesn't believe it's wrong to let people starve to death.  You'll also be hard pressed to find 2 people who are in complete agreement about how to create a world without starvation.  

Like religions, political ideologies are systems of belief (if you share everything, everyone will be fed; if you have elections, the people will have their voices heard; if you do the right thing you, will go to heaven) and no one has yet accounted for every variable.  No physicist, no yogi, no political scientist nor economist.  The only people who have come close are the atheist and anarchist who at least acknowledge the lies we tell ourselves, but who have, alas, yet to propose a viable system of anything of their own.  

I'll let someone else come up with the new ideal paradigm.

But I do think that we need to question the usage of the terms in the artillery of the media and politicians and ideologues.  As every time we hear "WMD's" we need to demand proof, every time we hear "Democracy" we need to do the same.  WMD's?  Where?  Democracy?  For/By whom?  

We also need to publicly acknowledge the inefficiency of all these terms and of the systems they refer to.  Acknowledge, honestly, that our frustration comes from our own unwillingness or inability to step outside the box in which we were shipped to this world and not from the stubbornness of the circle which refuses to be a square.

And we must stop endorsing or dismissing any nation, leader or system on the basis of our visceral response to the name given to their style of governance, and begin assessing their merit based on the prosperity, safety and dignity of their people and their respect for that of peoples not under their rule.  Is Bush a Dictator?  Is Europe Socialist?  Is Putin running a Democracy?  Is Chavez a Commie?  Yes and No.  So what?  What does it prove or accomplish?   Nada, folks.  ничего.

Are the people of America or Europe or Russia or Venezuela allowed to live in prosperity, safety and dignity?  Do the actions of their leaders respect the prosperity, safety and dignity of the people of France, Nigeria, Iran?  Now we can begin to talk about problems and solutions.  

Terms like Democracy and Dictatorship, Capitalism and Communism are absolutes which work well when trying to win hearts and minds, when creating mythology and covering your ass for committing atrocities.  I myself have warm fuzzy responses to the ideas of Democracy and Communism (and one day I will create a utopia in which we will have both, and I will rule it with an iron fist, forcing everyone to vote in every election, shop at co-ops and save the whales.)   But in the daily work of protecting human rights, feeding & educating people, creating opportunity and maintaining civil society, there seems to be a direct, inverse, relationship between the faith placed in these ideas and their odds of success.  

Mind you, I am not advocating some kind of moral relativism (ok, a little, but much less than we currently see in our governments.)  I'm not advocating for dictatorships.  I'm just saying that "dictator" rather loses its rabid bite when the people keep electing one.  And democracy, that shining city on the hill, fades in attraction when you find out its inhabitants are dying for lack of healthcare...


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Thanks. Shorten the title so it is meaningful in the list of new entries.

As to your question, I think it is called an imperfect democracy, or a pseudo-democracy, depending on whether the lack of meaningful choice is due to authoritarian means (Putin) or just happenstance (the US?)


Policies not Politics
---- Daily Landscape

by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 04:59:29 PM EST
Happenstance?  You are kidding, right?

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 05:19:01 PM EST
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American exceptionalism at work again:  when vicious, authority-mad elites bully and corrupt the body politic in other countries it is deliberate wickedness, but when it happens (repeatedly) in the US it is just some kind of mistake or random statistical occurrence :-)

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...
by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 08:03:12 PM EST
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Precisely.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Sat Dec 1st, 2007 at 02:33:15 PM EST
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Probably a good thing I could retrieve this at all...  Some of the links are kaput (apologies...)  This was really a thought experiment when I wrote it, not really knowing where it would go.  I'm afraid that in the current context, and in light of some of my recent diaries, this might come across as a sham attempt to excuse Putin for the authoritarian nature of that regime.   But, not only was this written a year and a half ago, the point of the diary was always this:

Are the people of America or Europe or Russia or Venezuela allowed to live in prosperity, safety and dignity?  Do the actions of their leaders respect the prosperity, safety and dignity of the people of France, Nigeria, Iran?  Now we can begin to talk about problems and solutions.

We can become so obsessed with labels and ideologies that we lose sight of the actual purpose of government to begin with: to ensure and promote civil society.  Dignity, security, opportunity, etc etc.  Democracy -of the people, by the people, for the people-  is preferable to us because we believe it is proven to be the best way to ensure and protect these things, not because it is sacred.  

That's all I'm saying...


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 05:18:16 PM EST
...the actual purpose of Government to begin with: to ensure and promote civil society

I would say rather, "to be integral to Civil Society".

Our Old Etonian Tory leader "Dave" Cameron says, contradicting Mrs Thatcher:

.."there is such a thing as Society, but it is not the State".

I think it is in the dissolution of the distinction between "Government" and "Governed" that the future lies.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 06:21:22 PM EST
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It's a beautiful idea, undoubtedly.  But I think we have a long way to go before that materializes.  

I'm trying to stay "reality-based" here buddy.  ;)  (I kid...  Reality based?  Reality is for suckers. LOL.)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 06:26:02 PM EST
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I understand your "realistic" view, but I am observing what actually is emerging.

I didn't invent the mechanisms I write about and evangelise - they are being used because they work, and I believe that they are capable of spreading virally - "Napsterisation".

We're not at the tipping point yet, but it's not that far away. There's a lot going on at ground level, that's for sure, and bugger all the powers that be can do about it.

As Victor Hugo said,

"You can resist an invading army; you cannot resist an idea whose time has come".

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 06:48:52 PM EST
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We can become so obsessed with labels and ideologies that we lose sight of the actual purpose of government to begin with: to ensure and promote civil society.  Dignity, security, opportunity, etc etc.  Democracy -of the people, by the people, for the people-  is preferable to us because we believe it is proven to be the best way to ensure and protect these things, not because it is sacred.  

That's all I'm saying...

Well said.
There is great danger in  thinking that because you stick a label on something, you have described it, or understand it. Meanings change all the time- language lives.
Good example- American "democracy" today is a "government" ---

-in which the "democratic" institutions such as congress are unable to seriously alter the course of Executive affairs,

-in which that information that makes a vote meaningful is largely unavailable to the voter- and lacks the ability to appeal when it does appear,

-in which the problem solving mechanisms that the voter once brought to bear on the important "democratic" issues are either dead or dormant,

-in which the vast majority of the public resources-tax revenue- is outside the effective control of any "democratic" institution,

-In which the disconnect between popular opinion and candidate selection is nearly total,

Chicken or the egg? Sapir-wharf?

A circular (at least) relationship where words powerfully affect the things we can think about, thus what we do, --which in turn alter the meaning of the words. Leaving those who rely on word games in charge---but in the crapper.

Eliza Doolittle, in "My fair Lady", put it this way (from memory- have mercy!)

Words, words, words- I'm so sick of words--

First from him, now from you,

all day long, all night through-

is that all you blighters can do?

Well---yes. So far.  

 

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Dec 1st, 2007 at 08:50:16 AM EST
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i think we should go to a benign monarchy, but any other kind of benign would do.

philosopher-kings do it better!

now mothers and fathers need to figure out just how to raise 'em...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 06:42:32 PM EST
When it shall be said in any country in the world, 'My poor are happy; neither ignorance nor distress is to be found among them; my jails are empty of prisoners, my streets of beggars; the aged are not in want, the taxes are not oppressive' -- when these thing can be said, then may that country boast of its constitution and government.

And when it shall be said of a country, 'My wealthy are neurotic gobblers of synthetic antidepressants, my poor are malnourished and burdened with debt and untreated illness;  ignorance and distress are my express foreign and domestic policy;  my jails are the fullest in the world and fast-abuilding;  the aged are considered a Problem, and an Opportunity for profiteering, and yet the taxes are oppressive and the nation is up to its nostrils in debt' -- when these things can be said, then that country had better not boast of its constitution nor of its government.

Much less should it attempt to export either of same.

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 08:37:23 PM EST
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Well said.
If I didn't like you, I'd vote for you for---King? President? Nah--that label is pretty toxic these days.
How about Grand Potential Potentate?

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Dec 1st, 2007 at 08:55:54 AM EST
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Potentate sounds even worse!

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 7th, 2007 at 06:50:37 AM EST
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I'm intrigued by the Chavez referenda but too crazed in private life to pay attention.  [2/3 of my library was just sold to locally owned bookstore, and the shelf-feet standing empty for the first time in 20+ years are... unsettling.]

my buddy 'rootless' is pessimistic and cynical about the Chavista phenomenon and feels the referenda are disingenuous and conducive to a Dear Leader state.  and he cites chapter and verse to substantiate his doubts. OTOH the usual baddies -- CIA and its stalking horse NGOs with the big neocon sugardaddies behind them -- are trying to sabotage the referenda, so that does make one feel instinctively that the referenda must be beneficial to peasants and workers in some way (or the US elite would not spend their cash trying to derail them).

oh the whole, I'm with the peasants and workers;  dictators may be bad, but based on the Iraqi experience it seems pretty clear that rule by US frat boys and CEOs (and their sock puppets like Chalabi) is worse.

I have a feeling that Venezuelans will one day have to kick Chavez out, but in the meantime he seems like the more palatable and less destructive alternative to rule by the colonialist liquidators...?

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 08:10:24 PM EST
DeAnander:
 [2/3 of my library was just sold to locally owned bookstore, and the shelf-feet standing empty for the first time in 20+ years are... unsettling.]

That's more than unsettling

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Nov 30th, 2007 at 08:40:44 PM EST
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That's more like open heart surgery.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Dec 2nd, 2007 at 06:27:25 AM EST
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DeAnander:
oh the whole, I'm with the peasants and workers;  dictators may be bad, but based on the Iraqi experience it seems pretty clear that rule by US frat boys and CEOs (and their sock puppets like Chalabi) is worse.

Being run by a government you can not influence is bad, but if it is local at least if things get to bad you can get back at the bastard in charge. Probably will get you killed, but hey, maybe you will get the sonofabitch too. Keep your friends close, but your ruler closer.

(OT: Why are english insults so related to concepts of having the wrong mother/being conceived outside wedlock? Is it some strange concept of racial purity? The need to defend and control reproduction and the honor of the tribe? If I was writing in swedish I would probably used words like "jävel" (devil/demon) or "kräk" (vomit).)

I don't know how old I was when I realised that the dictatorship vs. democracy story regarding ww2 was utterly false. Young enough to feel betrayed by being lied to. On one side you had formally parliamentary run states (with elections) where the parliaments had no power over the (non-elected) executive, but with pretty general suffrage. On the other you had a group of apartheid governments were suffrage was limited but elections decided something. And for some reason one of the sides was labeled "democratic".

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Dec 2nd, 2007 at 12:54:41 PM EST
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