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Creating a landscape of war while engaging in faint murmurs of protest

by edwin Thu Feb 1st, 2007 at 04:13:11 PM EST

There is much to do about the evils of Bush and the United States. There is far less about the actions about various Western countries.

Bush has become a smoke screen for torture, murder, and even the war crime of aggression. It's all Bush's fault that we are involved in [your choice of morally outrageous behaviour].

The answer is no. There is a slime that underlies Europe, and the rest of the western world is there, bubbling away just below the surface. Bush has become a convenient lie to cover the slime with. At least there is certain honesty in the way Britain commits its class A war crimes.

Canada should be everyone's favourate hypocrite. Unable to get popular support for war crimes from the general population, Chrétien  (Liberal), Martin (Liberal) and now Harper (Conservative) have all been engaging in secret wars. Forget the Sponsorship Scandal. People were hung at Nuremberg for the crimes these men have participated in.

Ottawa now admits that some Canadian soldiers are in Iraq, even though Canada refused to join the U.S.-led war against Saddam Hussein.

Prime Minister Chrétien says Canada isn't at war with Iraq. But he conceded that some Canadian soldiers could be with U.S. and British troops inside the country. "It's possible," he said, "but they are not in combat roles."

But Lieut.-Col. Ronnie McCourt told CBC News, in an interview at command headquarters in Doha, Qatar, that some Canadians are on the front lines.

CBC Friday April 4, 2003

Canada was and is not only involved, at one point a Canadian General was the number 2 man in the war of aggression.

Brigadier-General Walt Natynczyk is deputy commander of the U.S. Army's Three Corps, which is to take command in Iraq next year, and he has already been given approval to engage in "military operations up to and including participation in hostilities" under a recently declassified order from the head of the Canadian Forces.

Brig.-Gen. Natynczyk, a Canadian exchange officer, will take the posting even though Canada has pointedly avoided contributing to the U.S.-led coalition.

"I've got the approval from my chain of command," he said yesterday in an interview with the National Post. "I will deploy with them early in the new year -- we don't have fixed dates yet."

http://www.rightnation.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t22232.html originally form the National Post.

Least anyone have any lingering confusion about what Canada feels about is Iraqi involvement:

OTTAWA - Her Excellency the Right Honourable Michaëlle Jean, Governor General of Canada, today announced the awarding of five Meritorious Service Decorations (military division) to individuals whose specific achievements have brought honour to the Canadian Forces and to Canada. Recipients will be invited to receive their decorations at a presentation ceremony to be held at a later date.

The Meritorious Service Decorations are separated into military and civil divisions, with two levels each: a medal and a cross. The military division recognizes individuals for their outstanding professionalism and for bringing honour to the Canadian Forces. The civil division recognizes individuals who have performed an exceptional deed or an activity that brought honour to their community or to Canada.

On the recommendation of the Canadian Decorations Advisory Committee (Meritorious Service Decorations-military division), the Governor General is pleased to announce the following awards:

Meritorious Service Cross

[...]Major-General Walter J. Natynczyk, O.M.M., M.S.C., C.D.
Ottawa and Kingston, Ontario, and Winnipeg, Manitoba


Just to make sure there is no misunderstanding at all:

On January 24, 2006, Governor General Michaëlle Jean awarded him the Meritorious Service Cross.

She recognized Natynczyk "for his outstanding leadership and professionalism while deployed as Deputy Commanding General of the Multi-National Corps during Operation Iraqi Freedom

"From January 2004 to January 2005, Major General Natynczyk led the Corps' 10 separate brigades, consisting of more than 35,000 soldiers stationed throughout the Iraq Theater of Operations. He also oversaw planning and execution of all Corps level combat support and combat service support operations.

"His pivotal role in the development of numerous plans and operations resulted in a tremendous contribution by the Multi-National Corps to Operation IRAQI FREEDOM, and has brought great credit to the Canadian Forces and to Canada."


The US is attempting to target Iran next. The point is that the US is probably not going it alone. There was lots of verbal protest about US evil deeds, but from rendition to aggression the West has found it convenient to go along with the US - all the time making faint protesting noises. In effect "NO" means "YES". And now the other shoe is dropping and perhaps slightly more strident protesting noises are being made. The question is - does "NO" still mean "YES"? Certainly the actions of those countries that participated in Clinton's rendition initiative, and those countries that have engaged in activities in Iraq have helped to set up the invasion of Iran.

It's time to stop having a good time bashing Bush and the US. Bush is a problem, but the problem is not Bush. Similarly the US is a problem, but the problem is not the US.

We need to occasionally look in the mirror. Most, if not all of the West has helped to create the conditions where the invasion of Iran is now possible. It's been decades, in the making. It is a landscape of torture, war, short-term convenience over human rights, and might makes right that must be changed.

Canada has always been a very loyal and active ally of the US, when it has come to conflicts...which was why the US govt was shocked that Canada said it wouldn't go to Iraq. This new Canadian government is Bush-lite, however, so won't be surprised if they go in on Iran...though I do wonder how the Canadian people will fel about that.

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Fri Feb 2nd, 2007 at 07:34:17 AM EST
Yes, but the point is that Canada did go into Iraq under an anti-war Liberal Government.

As far as telling the public that Canada is participating in the invasion of Iran, the Block would have to support it. Wouldn't that be interesting.

As far as how the people of Canada would feel about that - think back to the Liberal leadership convention and the failed candidacy of Ignatieff. There was a strong anyone but Ignatieff group based on, in part his comments in support of torture. Never the less he was front runner by a substantial amount. As far as I can tell, there are probably very few Canadians who actually support an invasion of Iraq. There are a substantial number of Canadians who would prioritise this concern somewhere below grabbing a cup of coffee.

aspiring to genteel poverty

by edwin (eeeeeeee222222rrrrreeeeeaaaaadddddd@@@@yyyyaaaaaaa) on Fri Feb 2nd, 2007 at 12:12:03 PM EST
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Yes, I have to admit we are all quislings now and our govts here are Vichy administrations pandering to the whims of a corrupt and corrupting influence.

The UK has been Airstrip One for over 30 years, a wholly owned subsidiary of the USA. It is however, disappointing to see the level of compliance in other Govts. Germany can issue all the arrest warrants of CIA agents it likes, it is impossible that they operated without the full complicity of german authorities. The same is true elsewhere.

How enthusiastic we have all been to indulge in "Rendition", to rub ourselves in the same shit on the pavement to ensure we all smell the same as the leader of the pack.

Oh yea, we are all Americans now. I just don't get a vote.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Feb 2nd, 2007 at 07:38:10 AM EST

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