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Towards the Eduskunta

by NordicStorm Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 05:44:27 AM EST

Editors note: today are the Finnish parliamentary elections ~ wab

While there has been plenty of coverage of the French presidential election, still over a month away, I'm noticing a disturbing lack of interest in this Sunday's parliamentary election in that other great continental power.

I am, of course, talking about Finland.

More below...

Bumped up ~ whataboutbob


A bit of background. The Finnish parliament (Eduskunta in Finnish, Riksdagen in Swedish) is a unicameral body, consisting of 200 MPs. Elections are held every four years, with the country being divided into 15 electoral districts, each district electing a number of MPs, in proportion to the number of people living in that district (there's one exception; the Åland Islands, an autonomous region of Finland, forms its own electoral district which elects exactly one MP).

"The big three" of Finnish political parties are the Centre Party, the Social Democratic Party and the National Coalition Party (right-wing); their numbers are such that Finnish governments typically consists of any two of them plus one or more of the smaller parties. In the last election in 2003 the big three received 24.7%, 24.5% and 18.6% of the votes, respectively.

Besides those three, there are currently five other smaller parties in parliament: the Left Alliance (former Communists), the Green League, the Christian Democratic Party, Swedish People's Party (Swedish minority party/liberals) and the True Finns (nationalist euroskeptics). The Left and the Greens have been coalition partners in one or two governments in recent years, and the Swedes have served in every single Finnish government since 1979. The current government consists of the Centre, the SDP and the Swedes.

Finnish elections are typically fairly tame affairs, with the big three being rather civil to one another, presumably because if they are to govern together in some fashion after the election, they can't have pissed each other off too much during the campaign. A consequence of this is that regardless of which two (or three) eventually end up in the government, the policies advocated by the government are rarely radical departures from previously beaten paths.

A notable exception is 2003, when then Centre Party leader Anneli Jäätteenmäki accused then SDP leader and Prime Minister Paavo Lipponen of having promised George W Bush that Finland would join the then budding coalition of the willing in invading Iraq. Jäätteenmäki had based this information on classified documents she shouldn't have been reading. The Centre Party subsequently won the election, and Jäätteenmäki became Prime Minister, Finland thus having both a female President and a female PM, but Irak-gate, as the affair has been dubbed, broke shortly after her taking office, and her initial denials lead to such a loss of confidence that it forced her to resign a mere few months into her tenure (Matti Vanhanen became PM and Centre Party leader in her place, and is still serving in that capacity today).

The 2007 campaign features some sparks as well. The SDP's campaign focuses on the ideological divide between left and right, with simple ads proclaiming the red-colored "us" (the collective) to be larger than the blue-colored "I" (the individual).
The trade unions managed to shoot themselves in the foot by producing an attack ad, purporting to show a caricature of the typical Capitalist, feasting on copious amounts of food and generally behaving in a pig-like manner. The ad caused such a backlash it had to be pulled before being aired on television. What effect, if any, it'll have remains to be seen.

Issues? Taxes and welfare, I suppose. The parties on the right want tax cuts, whereas the parties on the left want to extend the welfare state. The usual stuff.

Current polling has the Centre Party in a slight lead, followed by the Social Democratic Party and the National Coalition Party, that is, largely as in the current parliament, though with the Social Democrats losing a few percentage points and the National Coalition Party gaining a bit.

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The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)
by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 03:04:16 PM EST
me too.. I humble read it and wait for it...

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 01:02:08 PM EST
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we are still gentlemen and gentlewomen here - how long it will last I don't know. But I like it.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 03:41:19 PM EST
And when we aren't gentlemanny, it seems to come back and bite us in the ass rather swiftly :-) (as happened to Jäätteenmäki and the SAK TV ad).

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 04:04:46 PM EST
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Precisely! I don't know whether these are old values, or ageless values. I would perefer that it be the latter....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 04:10:32 PM EST
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The Nordic countries have produced their fair share of skilled diplomats. I'm thinking it has something to do with our smallness and perhaps a sense of being closer to the people in power; at some point we realised it's better to build together than to tear apart.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 04:17:18 PM EST
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Thanks for the explanations and update, NS - very necessary as far as I'm concerned!
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 04:06:17 PM EST
Maybe this diary will die a death. Finnish elections? WTF? But as I always say - "look at the periphery - everything else is predictable "

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 04:07:48 PM EST
Well, I was going to do a diary on Finnish education and the recent suggested fusions of some Finnish universities, but after having attempted for two weeks to come up with something half-way interesting, I just thought "Aah, screw it." and went with this instead. I was excepting that diary to actually get a negative amount of comments ;-)

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 04:11:40 PM EST
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You should have tried. Boring stuff for boring types :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 04:16:18 PM EST
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Pshaw! I spit on that.

Massive DoDo dunk head-first into custard to wash his brain!!!

If this place would've been boring, I wouldn't be here.

by Nomad (Bjinse) on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 02:24:12 AM EST
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Too late.

I recommended it.

(And have a 4, as well.)

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 07:22:46 PM EST
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The ad caused such a backlash it had to be pulled before being aired on television.

A storm before being aired? For what and a storm by whom?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 04:14:56 PM EST
The ad was available on Youtube and SAK's (the umbrella organisation for Finnish trade unions) website prior to its premiere on TV. It was heavily criticized by representatives of the Centre Party and the National Coalition Party, as well as the Federation of Finnish Enterprises.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 04:23:30 PM EST
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Ah, the usual suspects, at least the latter two. (Where does the Centre Party stand economically?) What I don't understand is why the trade unions bent to pressure from these quarters -- that I see as a shoot in the foot.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 04:25:53 PM EST
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They're fairly liberal; their MEPs sit in the ALDE group in the European Parliament. Traditionally they were the party of the farmers, and they're still dominant in rural areas.

Ultimately I think SAK thought the ad became a distraction rather than adding substance to the campaign.  Finnish politics are not as adversarial as it might be elsewhere, and there was sense that the ad crossed a line in civility that, as Sven Triloqvist also noted, we normally don't cross. Even if the ad is perfectly harmless compared to the shit the Republicans threw in the 2004/2006 US elections.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Tue Mar 13th, 2007 at 04:45:34 PM EST
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The reason SAK pulled the ad was much closer to home - their membership didn't like it.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 02:51:27 AM EST
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This was well timed - it's so easy to overlook politics in Finland, while it shouldn't because it's internal dynamic is so damn interesting.

Even when it's "the usual stuff" - it has reflections on pan-European politics and where the European progressive stands.

Hope you and others (Sven?) will update around 18 March...

by Nomad (Bjinse) on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 02:32:24 AM EST
I certainly hope to, but the following week I am in the studio 12 hours a day so I shall be totally empty when I get home ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 06:38:20 AM EST
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I will most probably be around (but at the moment I am of course following the elections from afar). I voted a few days ago at the Finnish embassy..

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 09:56:33 AM EST
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I have to add that I haven't been able to follow most anything for the past week since tonight I have an exam on Finland's political history (kekkonen, kekkonen, kekkonen) and have had to study.. Hoping to have more time after tonight!

(It's a web exam! I love the internets! I can do University of Helsinki exams from my home in the Netherlands!)

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tzt) on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 09:58:37 AM EST
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I once did a sketch where I walked on stage with a wooden pizza paddle (thin round thing on a stick that they take out the pizzas from the oven with). I said "kekkoken, kekkoken, kekkoken".  and got a good laugh. It was my first joke in Finnish...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 10:07:52 AM EST
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Something like this?



You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tzt) on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 01:27:18 PM EST
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exactly!


You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 01:28:17 PM EST
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I'm noticing a disturbing lack of interest in this Sunday's parliamentary election in that other great continental power.

Hey, you mean lack of news. Now that you provide the news, there's interest ! Thanks, and keep us posted.

Why do I have this feeling Nordic countries somehow manage to hold on to their values, while us middle powers (geographically and economically) would be more exposed to the winds of globalization ? I am be totally off, I dunno.

by balbuz on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 05:07:30 AM EST
Typo : I may be totally off
by balbuz on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 05:09:38 AM EST
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Interesting Finnish poll published today:

40,000 students at 431 further education establishments, high schools etc were polled on party support.

  • The Centre Party 22.6%
  • Coalition (conservative) 17%
  • Greens 13.1 %

The Social Democrats did not do well.

The Finnish Communist Party got 4.4%

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 06:45:24 AM EST
And 40% undecided/uninterested?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 06:50:58 AM EST
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No, I only listed the top 3 - the full list was not published in the news flash I read

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 07:12:03 AM EST
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The full results are out:
SDP: 12.0%
Left Alliance: 8.4%
True Finns: 7.7%
Christian Democrats: 6.9%
Communists: 4.4%
Swedish People's Party: 2.7%

Those polled were all under the age of 18 and thus not eligible to vote. The Swedes are eager to point out that their relatively meager showing is due to a very small number of Swedish language schools participating.


"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 04:46:29 AM EST
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Advanced voting (now closed) has reached 30%, ahead of Sunday's election day. It was 25.5% at the last parliamentary elections 4 years ago.

This process, which I support, takes the heat out of the debate, and negates last minute mud-slinging and band-standing.

The election posters are visible on the streets everywhere, and the newspapers are full of ads. Quite a few candidates have tried the TV route, but with little success as far as I can see, due mainly, I feel, to the communications naivity of the players.

Websites have played a greater part this time. Some of them with fresh good design, some which are revolting....

Here's a list of National Coalition candidates - as you can see they all have web visibility: http://www.suomentoivo.fi/main.site?action=siteupdate/view&id=30

Here's an example of a young coalition candidate which is typical:

http://www.nurmelantuomas.net/

Or the blog of a RKP (swedish-speaking) candidate:

http://www.mariabjornberg-enckell.blogspot.com/

Or Prime Minster Matti Vanhanen's amateur effort:

http://www.mattivanhanen.net/

More professionally done is the Social Democrat site:

http://www.sdp.fi/

and also in English:

http://www.sosialidemokraatit.fi/index.php?cid=sdp&mid=863

The National Coalition Party:

http://www.kokoomus.fi/--default

Here is a Finnish political resource site:

http://www.politicalresources.net/finland.htm

And, for your amusement only, the Ugly Party

http://www.perussuomalaiset.fi/true_finns.html

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 07:09:23 AM EST
And, for your amusement only, the Ugly Party

Thankfully, the one man show that is Tony Halme isn't running again this year, though I except the "True" Finns to receive about the same amount of votes.

For our non-Finnish friends, Halme is a boxer and was on the Finnish version of American Gladiators. He also had a brief career as a WWF wrestler, going by the name Ludvig Borga. He was elected to parliament in 2003. Since then, he has accused Finnish president Tarja Halonen of being a lesbian, had an unlicensed firearm discharged in his home, resulting in a highly publicised trial, was convicted for DWI, and last year was (involuntarily) committed to a mental institution.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 07:31:19 AM EST
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Since then, he has accused Finnish president Tarja Halonen of being a lesbian, had an unlicensed firearm discharged in his home, resulting in a highly publicised trial, was convicted for DWI, and last year was (involuntarily) committed to a mental institution

He should run for the French presidency...

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

by Melanchthon on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 07:37:23 AM EST
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Is he Mr. Natch?

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 07:42:00 AM EST
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He might be Sven in disguise...

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 07:51:50 AM EST
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Now, now, friends - you know I do the jokes round here...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 09:37:55 AM EST
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The Left Alliance has a pretty decent campaign website:
http://www.oikeastivasemmalla.fi/

The Green League has a website that is, uh, green:
http://www.vihrealiitto.fi/

Swedish People's Party, awfully plain:
http://www.sfp.fi/start/

Centre Party, looks okay:
http://www.keskusta.fi/Suomeksi/Etusivu.iw3

Christian Democrats, too much clutter:
http://www.kristillisdemokraatit.fi/kd/frame.php

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 07:46:53 AM EST
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How does advanced voting work?

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 12:26:44 PM EST
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Here's some information in English.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 01:32:22 PM EST
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The closest thing to finnish pirates are apparently knights of the Internet. (Check out those swords!)

I understand that in Finland candidates has a rather free position versus their party, and that might explain why they are not running for Tietoyhteiskuntapuolue, but instead has their candidates on the Liberaalit list. However, I do not see Liberaalit mentioned above. Are they in parliament now and/or do they have a decent chance to be after the election?

(My finnish is crappy (hey, talk swedish, we know you had to learn it in school!) and Liberaalit does not appear to have swedish version of their page (are the eastern tribes getting uppity about their independence? Maybe some new crusades could solve that!), which might suggest they are not that big (and never will be, unless they make their page with a swedish version! [apparently my swedo-imperialistic tendencies are only buried skin deep and incert themselves in the form of multiple parenthesis, I can only offer my apologies (traitor! you danish surrender-monkey!)]))

Sweden's finest (and perhaps only) collaborative, leftist e-newspaper Synapze.se

by A swedish kind of death on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 07:48:35 PM EST
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The Liberals (http://www.liberaalit.fi) used to be in parliament, but currently they are a minuscule party. They received about 0.1% of the vote in 2003. I don't expect them to get any closer this time around. The biggest party outside of parliament is the Communist Party (http://www.skp.fi/), apparently...

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 02:51:34 AM EST
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The Liberals had some weird folks as candidates last time. One was a self-described libertarist-anarchist who wanted Turku to secede from the rest of the country and form a minarchist city-state. I don't think he got very many votes.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 07:39:47 AM EST
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Well, now you have me intrigued! The Liberals' three candidates received a grand total of 399 votes in Varsinais-Suomi (I'm assuming he was running in the district containing Turku, otherwise it'd be just weird), an increase of 140 votes since 199!

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 07:55:44 AM EST
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He was number 42, Markus Jansson from Turku. It seems he received 175 votes. He is now a candidate again, but this time from Suomen Kansan Sinivalkoiset.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 08:59:02 AM EST
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Until just a few days ago I had you pegged as in Sweden. Mut hauska tavata! Näytämme niille eeteelaisille mitä söömälasii jaksaa... ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 09:43:11 AM EST
...but certainly Swedish speaking. In fact, puhun suomea niin huonosti, mutta kiitos samoin! ;)

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 10:38:48 AM EST
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I actually everyday socialize mostly in Swedish speaking circles - but they prefer to talk in English. Work is in English or Finnish. My daughters have both Swedish and English as mother tongues - my ex being such.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 10:47:20 AM EST
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Yeah, I work in a majority-Finnish work place, and I speak mostly English...amazingly useful, that language ;-)

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 11:54:36 AM EST
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I guess the Swedish party is violently overrepresented among Swedish speakers, but by how much?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 03:51:00 PM EST
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I don't know the exact numbers, but it's surely above 70% (the SFP (Swedish People's Party) received about 4.5% in the last election, and Finland-Swedes are about 5.5% of the population). That said, suédophones (svecophones?) are as ideologically diverse as anyone else, and there is certainly a sizable bunch of left-wing Finland-Swedes who can't bring themselves to vote for the SFP (the former chairman of the Left Alliance was a Finland-Swede, for example). Making matters more complicated, Åland has its own party system, so the SFP won't be getting any votes from the most Swedish-speaking part of Finland (the Åland MP typically caucuses with the SFP in parliament, though. I believe every single Åland MP since Åland received its own electoral district in 1948 has done so, but I'd have to check), other than potentially in presidential elections and elections for the European parliament, when candidates are elected "nation-wide", so to speak.

In recent years the party has been trying to branch out and attract Finnish-speaking voters as well, by presenting itself as the liberal party, but how many voters they've managed to attract I'm not sure.
Heck, this could be a diary all on its own.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 04:59:06 PM EST
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Hey Nordic Storm...thanks for this! Great discussion too, thanks! Look forward to hearing the results (and what they mean!)

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 at 03:36:55 PM EST
What is the procedure used for voting, do you vote for a predefined party list, a single candidate, many candidate ? Is it all "regional" or are there seats for those above X% nationally?

Thanks :)

by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 05:52:25 AM EST
It's an "open list" system, there is a party list but the order in which the candidates from the list are elected is decided by the number of votes. Everyone votes for one candidate. The country is divided into 15 electoral districts. A number of representatives proportional to the number of people in each district is elected (except for Åland island - they always elect one representative).

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 07:21:20 AM EST
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Thanks!

So the party list is not present in the voting booth, only ballots for each individual candidate (with may be their "list" affiliation mentionned).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_Finland

wikipedia sounds a bit different from what I understand you told me:


In each electoral district the total number of votes for each party, electoral alliance or joint list is reckoned and the candidate with the most votes in the party, electoral alliance or joint list is assigned this number as a reference figure. The figure for the candidate who comes in second is half the total, the figure for the candidate who comes in next is a third of the total etc. (This is known as the d'Hondt method). The final order of all the candidates in the district is thus determined on the basis of reference figures. Finland does not have a vote threshold, nor does it provide for votes to be given to a party rather than an individual.

Many electoral districts have lost population in recent decades, and some now elect as few as six representatives, which in turn creates an effective election threshold in those districts, favouring major parties (the biggest district, Uusimaa, elects 34 representatives). This problem has been quite widely recognized and discussed, and numerous committees have been set up to review options for a reform of the electoral system, but no general agreement on measures has been reached.

Is there a table with number of voters / number of seats for each of the 16 area?

by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 08:08:24 AM EST
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In the booth you can see a list of the candidates, listed by the party they represent.
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 08:19:40 AM EST
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