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The Day Budapest Burns To Cinder (or not)

by DoDo Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 04:58:45 PM EST

Today is the anniversary of the most popular of Hungary's many revolutions, the 1848 one. But there may be not much of celebration on this national day.

The Hungarian government is currently conducting an austerity programme, and that, except for tax cuts, out of the neoliberal handbook: 'reforms' and social cutbacks. Currently the attack point is healthcare, with insane policies of hospital closures and push towards partial social security privatisation. My company (state railways) also suffered cutbacks, what hurts most is that while highways are built like before, two weeks ago 14 branchlines were switched from trains to buses. (And my middle boss also found ways to spare: he decreed that when you're on on-track tests, you are paid for a normal 8-hour workday -- during the last test I was on 11 hours were the minimum actually worked...)

But the political class finds ways to employ themselves and the media with a different circus. You remember last autumn's riots, which recently began to have consequences. Now the fear is that the far-right will use 15 March for a new round of rioting. Update [2007-3-15 16:58:45 by DoDo]: And not without ground: see update on the day's events (and DoDo's in-person odyssey across it) in the comments.


This is perfect occasion for the governing 'Socialists' and 'liberals' to push police state measures in advance. There has been discussion of a general permit to police to use rubber bullets. More alarmingly, as a bizarre 'solution' to the police 'mistakes' of last year that non-protesters were beaten up and arrested too, passers-by have been 'warned' in advance that they are subject to police action.

The figurehead President of the Republic produced another flap: he will be in Transsylvania today, so he won't be present at the official ceremony -- which led to a wild debate over who should be there in his stead. The default would be the speaker of the Parliament, but she is also a Socialist like the PM, enough for a little overblown controversy.

Back to the austerity measures, the right-populist opposition could yet facilitate the blocking of a lot of it: they promote a series of referenda on specific measures. On one hand, this is highly cynical: I haven't heard any proposal from them regarding how to reduce the budget deficit differently, and it is long forgotten that in the 2006 election campaign, they promised 14th-month pensions and tax cuts -- so, based on prior policies, had they been back in power a year ago, I think they would have done most of the same while deflecting blame to the prior government.

On the other hand, before voting, I have to decide whether the opportunity of stopping the neolib measures balances the risk of lifting another power-hungry mob in power that won't separate from the local fascists.

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Now I'm off for the rest of the day -- I'll report back in the evening if anything spectacular happens.

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by DoDo on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 01:23:49 AM EST
Any good resources to explain the "reforms" they eventually decided on for the healthcare system?
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 07:39:05 AM EST
Ah, shucks. I once promised you to write on this. I'll try to do so this weekend when I have time (hopefully tomorrow, but nothing is certain).

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by DoDo on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 04:56:35 PM EST
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Links are fine, I know what it is like to be busy, although non-Hungarian languages are preferred... ;-)
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 06:54:44 PM EST
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I haven't found such links... so here is a quick write-up.

As I tried to imply, the move to a multi-insurer system is not yet one with concrete proposals. The actual plans are kept from the public like top secret military plans, now they just do advocacy and 'prepare the ground' with other changes.

What was hammered through so far:

  1. introduction of a fee for visiting a doctor, as well as staying in a hospital (but with children and poor adults exempted), with the expressed intent to reduce visits and medicine prescriptions, but 'sold' with loud rhetoric about ending the practice of giving gratitude money (which is bullshit -- on one hand, I personally have never paid gratitude money so it's not quasi-compulsory as they claim; on the other hand, people will aways try to get special treatment and get jumped ahead in the waiting line with some black money);
  2. closures of some hospitals, the institutional merging of others, in particular the hospitals attached to various state companies and bureaucracies are to be separated from them (they are some of the best -- thus some of the most sellable...);
  3. selling medicines outside pharmacies;
  4. organising a tracking of who really pays social security insurance, and require money from those who don't (which is crual: many of these people lost their jobs or have bosses who play tricks with the State);
  5. they created a new (public) oversight body over the (as yet public) social security insurer, one that is supposed to act for customers against misbehavior of the insurer; this oversight body is the first element for a future multi-insurer system.

As for what was leaked/hypothetised so far regarding the plan for a multi-insurer system: it will probably be of a mixed system, in which the public social security insurer continues to exist and finances emergency, pregnant-treating and other critical services, and the state also continues to collect the money; while the private insurers divide up the health care system among themselves (each having its own network), and everyone has to choose one.

I'd say it's madness, complete and criminal madness, every single element of this policy mess.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Mar 16th, 2007 at 01:48:23 PM EST
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personally have never paid gratitude money so it's not quasi-compulsory as they claim; on the other hand, people will aways try to get special treatment and get jumped ahead in the waiting line with some black money);

In Poland it's a lottery for procedures that are neither simple basic care nor absolutely urgent, though even with the latter you might get unlucky (most doctors won't blackmail you when your life is at stake, but a few will, and there intermittent shortages of medicines and equipment in the state sector which are always available in the private one). If, say, you've injured your knee and can't work, you might get lucky and get surgery relatively fast. Or, more often, you'll be told there's no availability for, say, a year. However, you might want to try that private clinic, I hear it's really good. There they'll examine you (for a hefty fee) and either do the surgery themselves or refer you back to the state hospital where the same surgeon who said there's no availability for a year will take you outside his or her normal working hours. Doctor's salaries are crap - on an hourly basis far below the median, so they work ridiculous hours, shaving off from their state sector jobs for private work. Plus you're getting shortages in some areas as doctors and nurses move to the west - shorter hours, far more money.

by MarekNYC on Fri Mar 16th, 2007 at 02:47:25 PM EST
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...and thus one gets the worst of both worlds.

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by DoDo on Sat Mar 17th, 2007 at 02:44:37 PM EST
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Before my grandmother, who lived in Budapest (I'm half Hungarian, though I don't speak any, other than "köszönöm" and "szia"), passed away a decade or so ago, my family used to visit quite frequently. What always struck me were the homeless people and beggars you'd always see when you ventured outside. I don't know how things have developed in the past decade, but I can't help but thinking that cutbacks won't do much for them.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 08:17:00 AM EST
When did your visits to Hungary start?

In my memory, the homeless and beggars appeared in 1989, nicely synchronised with the introduction of capitalism. (Not that the 'communists' were that much really social, but they felt the propagandistic need to not have visible poverty in the so-called Real Existing Socialism.) The situation didn't improve since, it's more like it became everyday and routine. The city 'adapted' to it, for example, the underpasses for the metro entrances are open for the homeless as sleeping-places during subzero outside temperatures.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 04:54:51 PM EST
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In the early to mid-80s, but I was too young to remember much from that time, so most of my memories are from the 90s. I recall having the sense that "it didn't use to be like this," but I don't remember if I based that on actual memories of things being different or on statements from my parents...

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 05:51:05 PM EST
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two weeks ago 14 branchlines were switched from trains to buses.

<head explodes>

Sure, I can see why they did that in the 50's and 60's around here, but NOW with oil at $60?

Just make sure they don't tear up the rails and it will only be a temporary setback.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 11:09:32 AM EST
This is perfect occasion for the governing 'Socialists' and 'liberals' to push police state measures in advance. There has been discussion of a general permit to police to use rubber bullets. More alarmingly, as a bizarre 'solution' to the police 'mistakes' of last year that non-protesters were beaten up and arrested too, passers-by have been 'warned' in advance that they are subject to police action.

It's interesting that this is exactly the atmosphere and the rumors (rubber bullets, no bystanders etc)  that are circulating in Greece as the (massive) student protests over proposed university reform continue for the third month (actually for 9 months on and off). There has been a frightening display of police brutality, probably unprecedented in scale since the days of the dictatorship, against what is only on the surface an education-related uprising and has many of the characteristics of a youth-revolt (yes, I know, I should have posted a diary about this). Today was the big demonstration day everyone was afraid of, but Mr. Putin's presence here for the signing of a big pipeline deal, might have discouraged large scale police violence...

Here, of course, it's the (beyond-the-socialists) Left that's marching with the demonstrators and seems to support the protests ideologically (but only up to a a point).

I wonder if harsh police-state measures are part of some sort of paneuropean understanding as to how social unrest should be dealt with, or simply a case of an unorganized convergence of repressive measures, given the general economic path we're all heading along on...

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 12:26:11 PM EST
I tend to the latter opinion.

(yes, I know, I should have posted a diary about this)

Indeed I was hoping that we'll get a diary on those protests from you :-)

Mr. Putin's presence here for the signing of a big pipeline deal

And that would be worth another diary (one linking up neatly with my previous).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 04:48:12 PM EST
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I would guess at semi-organized convergence.

For a while protests against EU summits and G8 meetings has been met with harsher measures. I would be surprised if the police in one country holding such a meeting do not discuss their strategis with police from countries that has recently had meetings.

In Sweden it has recently surfaced that during the EU summit in Gothenburg 2001, swedish police acted on faulty intelligence provided by american services. Many times the leadership overruled agreements that had been concluded in a planning group consisting of demonstration organisers, local police and city administrators. Any provocation was perceived in the worst possible manner. Demonstrators - already not very trusting of the police - interpreted in their turn it as a crackdown and voilà: riots.

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by A swedish kind of death on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 07:16:36 PM EST
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In Sweden it has recently surfaced that during the EU summit in Gothenburg 2001, swedish police acted on faulty intelligence provided by american services.

Diary!

I would be surprised if the police in one country holding such a meeting do not discuss their strategis with police from countries that has recently had meetings.

I rather think that the opposite is true: what we saw was a series of panic reactions of the powers-that-be to a challenge they were unprepared for, and previous events in other countries were considered only via the media (e.g. police's and politicians' views of 'the enemy' included the strong distortions of the media). I emphasize that by panic reaction, I do not exclude consciously planned subversive actions, above all what Italian police did in Genoa 2001.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Mar 16th, 2007 at 01:56:57 PM EST
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My guess is that a lot of the procedures might have been planned in advance of the 2004 Olympics.
by Upstate NY on Fri Mar 16th, 2007 at 10:00:35 AM EST
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Good luck.  

I look forward to the update.  

The Fates are kind.

by Gaianne on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 02:44:54 PM EST
I'm just back home & at the end of a 12-hour news blackout, this is a rushed summary of impressions before I go check some news sites.

So I helped packing & cleaning at a house in the outskirts of Budapest. In the morning when I got there, the city was empty -- I forgot to tell in the diary that Budapest hotels had record low, hotels around Budapest record high reservations.

I ended 3 pm, a bit earlier than planned. So I thought: what the heck, I won't be scared neither by rioters nor by police, and capitalise on the emptied city by going to watch a movie.

I should have suspected something already on the bus: half the passengers wore a dreamy look to their national-colours cockade, like cult followers about to meet their guru. In the metro, even more of them. So is main opposition party Fidesz (right-populist) holding a rally? I figured they must be on a certain main street, so hoped I can just pass them to the cinema I chose.

But when I get out, there were masses of flag-waving people just in the directrion of the cinema. No way to pass between them.  So I circled a block, passing thousands, me being the only one not in national colors. At the edge of the crowd, dozens of sellers of 'national' merchandise. While I circle the block, a pickup truck passed us, with a man shouting from the platform with a megaphone, denouncing Fidesz leader Orbán for not overthrowing the current government. (He got no reply from the crowd.)

But while some far-rightists denounce Fidesz, and no one from this crowd insulted me for lack of national colours, the seamless union of center-right and other parts of the far-right was plain to see: every third flag was the 'Árpád-stripes' flag. This flag used to be a royal flag, but during WWII, the local fascists (the Arrowcrossers) used it, giving a far-right association to it like the Nazis to the Swastika. The far-right, then the 'normal' right began to use it increasingly in the last few years. Many of them protest the far-right association, calling it an old Hungarian symbol only misused by the Arrowcrossers, but please: Hungary is no more a kingdom and it has another flag!

...when I got to the cinema, I got a strong sense of normality and madness existing side-by-side: outside, tens of thousands of flag-waving idiots, inside, the same cosmopolitan artsy people as everyday (only fewer). But The Faun's Labirynth already ran since 15 minutes. So I battled my way across the sidestreets again, to a second cinema, and watched Clint Eastwood's remarquable Letters from Iwo Jima.

Going home, I hopped on a tramway. Which stopped for ten minutes: the far-right motorists' club I wrote about a few times, now apparently counting hundreds of members, zoomed along the cross street with police escort.

A few stations later, what looked like departing protesters hopped on the tram. But still a few stations further, I saw a police cordon, and behind that a few hundred people, the now familiar mix that took part in riots, from skinheads to university student types. And then I see that the guys who hopped onboard a few stations before hopped down, unfurled flags and other paraphelia, and turned out to be football hooligans (another part of said mix).

Then I got on my train and now I'm at home. I'll report what's in the domestic news in an hour.

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by DoDo on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 02:55:57 PM EST
Scary stuff, DoDo. I should think you're glad to be home.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 04:06:41 PM EST
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Actually, I was surprised at myself how jaded I have became -- or my fellow passengers on the tram.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 04:45:13 PM EST
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So here is what the media reports here.

Early today, police finally caught the 'hero' of the far-right rioters, György Budaházy (a guy who already tried an idiot's revolution five years ago, took part in last autumn's first riots, then fled into the woods from police, who since didn't want to risk spontaneous new riots by catching him).

At the 15 March commemoration of the capital, the (liberal) mayor of Budapest was pelted with eggs. Later the Fidesz mayor of the inner-city district (where the incident happened) unambiguously denounced the egg-pelting -- this is something new.

Indeed I stumbled into a Fidesz rally, in fact it appears to have been one of the biggest yet with 200,000 people. On it, Fidesz leader Orbán (below in front of an oversized cockade) made politics not commemoration. He chose a wording to give something both to his more peaceful and his revolution-minded followers: he said that it's now up to the people in the referendum Fidesz wants, and after the referendum, if the government doesn't abide by it, the people "can hunt them away".

Meanwhile, the youth wing of the Socialists organised a press conference before the "House of Terror" -- a museum in the house that was successively the seat of the Arrowcrossers and the Stalinist communist secret police, but which focuses mainly on the latter era, as it was opened as part of Fidesz's 2002 election campaign --, where they wanted to hand over an 'Árpád-stripes' flag (see at bottom right above: the red-white-red-white... one) to the museum.

In the afternoon, starting from the rally (an impression above) of small far-right party MIÉP (which broke with Fidesz) at Heroes' Square, which is some 2 km away from where the Fidesz protest was, the rioters (about a thousand -- less than last autumn) began action.

The squirmishes spread inward along a boulevard that was modelled on the Champs Elisées, and reached the stage of arson (of public banks and rubbish bins) near its inner end, at the Opera.

The fires were now quickly estinguished by the water cannons -- almost routine...

A new weapon: sling-shots, shooting screws at police. But police was apparently effective in containing and then dispersing them twenty minutes ago, and currently there is no report of assembled people.

One policeman's skin ripped on the head when a stone hit him, one protester was hit by a tear gas grenade on the head, and three protesters are treated for too much tear gas. Some rioters kicked a freelance photographer until apparent gangleaders stopped them. Firefighters were also pelted with stones.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 04:35:43 PM EST
Damn, I hate rioters. Go police!

Anyway, what's up with guy with the huge sword?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 04:48:05 PM EST
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In the middle age, you could call people up in arms by carrying around a bloodied sword.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 04:49:16 PM EST
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There were some small squirmishes since. Police caught the sling-shot squad. Some last rioters even began to fight among themselves, over whether further rubbish bins should be put on fire or not. It appears there are relatively few injured this time -- so despite the scaremongering in advance, it seems police too acted in a more civilised way. (But this may change when all hospitals report by tomorrow morning...)

Regarding how the riots developed, reports are contradictory. The new version I read is that the arrest of Budaházy (in the early afternoon, and near where I walked), who was in disguise, sparked the rioting: his people apparently believed to know where he is held, and first assembled after SMS calls near that police building.

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by DoDo on Thu Mar 15th, 2007 at 06:33:31 PM EST
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(But this may change when all hospitals report by tomorrow morning...)

Apparently not. Only six treated people were reported this morning, too. Also, there were only 36 arrests. Clean-up was estimated to cost €60,000.

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by DoDo on Fri Mar 16th, 2007 at 01:18:29 AM EST
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