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Finnish Elections thread

by Sven Triloqvist Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 08:18:11 AM EST

I'll throw this up as an assembly point for any information and comment about today's parliamentary elections in Finland.

The vote falls on the 100th anniversary of Finland's first elections, which was the first worldwide to give women the right to run for office.

Some things to remember:

  • Electorate = 4.3 million
  • Seats = 200
  • Unicameral parliament
  • Proportional Representation
  • 30% have already cast their votes in Finland's advance voting period.
  • There are total 2,611 polling stations in the entire country.
  • Polling stations opened at 9:00 a.m. local time.
  • After the closure of the polling stations at 8:00 p.m., the results of the advance voting will be published.
  • Usually, preliminary results for the entire election are ready at 11:00 p.m. local time.

From the diaries ~ whataboutbob


A snippy town roundup:

Finland, home to the world's largest mobile phone maker, Nokia Corp., has a booming economy and a falling unemployment rate. It consistently ranks high in international surveys on competitiveness.

None of the main parties is calling for any big changes. The Conservatives are more open to NATO membership, but are not pushing the issue because of strong opposition to it in a country that shares a 1,300-kilometer (800-mile) border with Russia.

The Greens are hoping growing concerns about climate change will give them a record 10 percent in the polls and an invitation to join the next coalition government.

As part of their campaign, the Greens have screened former U.S. Vice President Al Gore's film about global warming, "An Inconvenient Truth."

"We have been showing it all over the country," said Heidi Hautala, a candidate for the Greens. "This has really helped us a lot."

A poll released Friday indicated the Center Party had 24.7 percent support, while the Social Democrats had 21.3 percent and the Conservatives 20.4 percent. In line with tradition, the leader of the biggest party is tasked with forming a new government.

The Greens overtook the ex-communist Left Alliance to become the fourth biggest party with 9.7 percent support, according to the survey. The Swedish People's Party, the third coalition partner, had 5 percent.

Latest news shows lively voting, with queues in some stations. Voter turnout looks set to be higher than 4 years ago.

I will vote later today after working in the studio. I am still in two minds - neither of which I shall reveal ;-) I have to go back and reread my two candidates statements

There's a poll for fun....

Poll
I find the Finnish Elections
. incredibly boring 5%
. don't affect my own life 5%
. worth a look, but I am not enthused 0%
. Finland is an interesting society, I'd like to know more 47%
. All European elections are equally important 42%

Votes: 19
Results | Other Polls
Display:
Bob bumped up Nordic Storm's excellent diary Towards the Eduskunta to FP at the very moment I posted this diary.

Take your pick!

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 05:47:40 AM EST
NordicStorm gives a good background...let this be the election thread...(and thanks Sven!)

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 08:19:42 AM EST
[ Parent ]
At least the weather is very good in the south. Only 6½ hours to go :)

I expect the same coalition to to be in the government after the elections, i doubt the center party will lose (good last minute polls) and very likely it will be center+SDP+some minor parties.

And yes, i did cast my vote (it is a very simple process and no US style shenanigans).

by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 06:35:01 AM EST
The evening's vote count can be followed by watching YLE 1 on tv or via the net. There'll be a live link on page http://www.yle.fi/vaalit/2007/
(Just click on "SEURAA TULOSILTAA SUORANA NETISSÄ")

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 09:30:09 AM EST
I am just off out to vote. It is going to be a tactical one - no-one quite represents my views.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 09:50:34 AM EST
ha-haa, if you live in the south..the weather is horrible now :) A snow storm, came out of nowhere..
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 09:55:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Hah. I was just reading a news item on how the sunny weather has gotten people out of their houses and voting.

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 10:04:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 10:30:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]
What a nice view.  I have a courtyard full of cars to look at.  I can see how that weather isn't looking so good now!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 10:33:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]
My local polling station was busy, in spite of the rather treacherous snow and slush on the roads. My guess is a higher than normal turnout. I can't think of any strong political factors that would contribute to the turnout. There is a fair amount of confidence in the economy, there are no pressing issues, and there's a general feeling that PM Matti Vanhanen, uncharismatic though he may be, is a good manager and undogmatic.

In Finland it is not a crime to be sparing with words, even politicans - if you do your job. You are even allowed to have a complicated social life. ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 11:37:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Is there any postal voting or is access for people who aren't available on voting day all dealt with by the advance voting?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 10:25:09 AM EST
If you are too old etc, you can notify the officials and you can vote in your home(some election official will come to your home). But there is no way to vote by mail .(of course the advance voting is usually done at the post office, but there are now some other places as well)
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 10:33:04 AM EST
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before we get the results of the advanced voting. I can see you are all on tenterhooks ;.)

30% of total voters have done so. With an expected turnout in the 60 % range, it means that almost half of the Finns who are going to actually vote, have done so already.

In the more thinly populated areas (almost everything north of Helsinki and the south coast) there tends to be more advanced voting - combining voting with a long trip to the Post Office, for example. These areas tend to be rural, and thus the Center Party, with its agrarian roots, will show well. I think they will do less well in the south in the later vote count - announced around 11pm local time.

The redistricting and simplification of the national map of constituencies though, has somewhat reduced the Centre party advantage in non-metropolitan Finland.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 12:23:52 PM EST
A tenter is a wooden frame used to dry cloth.  Tenterhooks are used to attach weights to provide the tension so the cloth dries evenly.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 12:46:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I've always thought ETers were weighty people...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:37:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
All advance votes are not ready yet because there were so many. Lots of them missing from Uusimaa. Does not look like a huge win for Keskusta though! They always get a lot more from advance votes.

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:01:14 PM EST
Here they come(the beautiful ones):

Center 24.8
SDP 22.9 -1.6
conservatives 21.8 +3.3
Lefties 9.4 -0.5
Greens6.5 -1.5
Jesus-nuts? 4.9
True finns 3.7 (big surprise)

Note: The center party will lose 3-4 points from the start, greens should get little bit more. "experts" are saying that the center party needs some 30% of the votes at this point, if they want to win.

Last elections the advance vote was 37% of the total vote. They are predicting some 70% to vote.

Argh! Some 100k advance votes are yet to be counted.

by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:01:16 PM EST
The prime minister does not look terribly happy.

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:02:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And neither does Katainen from Coalition.

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:02:51 PM EST
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He is trying to bullshit, they did get +3.3% but they are still number 3.

True finns got lot of votes,  a surprise.

by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:04:52 PM EST
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He just lost the elections, they will come down from the top place. They might end up with 21-22% (they usually come down some 3-4 points).
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:03:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
This could mean that the Social democrats could still win, the lead is not enough for the center party.
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:02:34 PM EST
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Yeah, definitely.

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:03:19 PM EST
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Looks like the experts are wrong..
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:52:12 PM EST
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What about Svenska Folkpartiet?

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:33:59 PM EST
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Never mind.

(Answered downthread...)

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:37:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Jeez. Paavo Väyrynen is back.

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:20:40 PM EST
So is Juha Mieto :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juha_Mieto
(ok, he is not back, but in anyway)
Dear God!
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:22:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Also Marko Asell and maybe even Markku Uusipaavalniemi.. Damn, what is it with people who vote for sports figures!

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:25:09 PM EST
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Current government has a minister (polevault guy) who is a sports guy, also a former miss Finland.  Next, Jesse Ventura. No, wait..we had Halme (former show wrestler).

Uhhh....

It looks like the center party could become number 3, opinion polls suck!

by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:31:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The conservatives have made gains in Uusimaa.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:34:20 PM EST
Yes, they seem to be celebrating and are repeating that "the people want change".

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:36:30 PM EST
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Goddamn Ugly Finns (Perussuomalaiset) are also making gains..

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:41:29 PM EST
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Yeah, not good - I for one severely underestimated their support...

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:45:35 PM EST
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While I am no fan of the Ugly Party, I admire a system that allows them to make their points, providing they stay within the law

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:50:22 PM EST
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Yeah, well. Guess they'll be making their point ("foreigners out!") louder from now on. :-/

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:51:45 PM EST
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Cast my vote earlier today - snowed like hell. Then I spent five hours on a friggin' boat - fun as always.

Looks like my candidate is going to make it...

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:34:27 PM EST
YLE (Finnish broadcasting) should have a prognosis coming pretty soon. They're usually rather accurate.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:41:19 PM EST
21:15 local time.
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 01:58:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
1        Niinistö Sauli    KOK       
2        Guzenina-Richardson Maria    SDP       
3     X    Matikainen-Kallström Marjo    KOK       
4     X    Vanhanen Matti            KESK
5     X    Kalliomäki Antti    SDP   

Top 5 vote grabbers of the moment.

Sauli is our handsome roller-blading widower
Maria is a former media celebrity
Marjo is a former sports heroine
Matti is matti
Antti is a former sports hero.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:05:12 PM EST
Watching this amazing video called America: Freedom to Fascism, by Aaron Rosso....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198

....With tracking the Finnish election. Quite a contrast!

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:10:24 PM EST
Something's up with the vote counting in Helsinki, prognosis will be delayed...

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:20:16 PM EST
Prognosis is supposed to be ready any second now.

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:25:07 PM EST
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Matti is going to win, but SDP is the big loser!

51, 51,45 seats (center, cons, sdp)

by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:27:04 PM EST
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According to the prognosis, the National Coalition Party will pass the SDP to become the second largest party...

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:26:44 PM EST
Looks like a right wing government. :-(

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:28:07 PM EST
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Prognosis
Centre: 23.0%
Coalition: 22.1%
SDP: 21.8%
Left: 9.0%
Greens: 8.3%
ChristDems: 4.8%
Swedes: 4.5%

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:29:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The Greens' party chairman (Tanja Cronberg) won't make into parliament - can she stay on as party chairman?

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:31:41 PM EST
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But the important number is the number of seats. 50/51 between center and conservatives..close.
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:33:56 PM EST
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Crap, 51 for the center, not 50.
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:34:23 PM EST
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True.
C: 51 (-4)
Kok: 50 (+10)
SDP: 45 (-8)
Left: 17 (-2)
Greens: 14 (-)
ChristDems: 8 (+1)
Swedes: 9 (+1) (10 if you count the Åland MÅ)
True Finns: 5 (+2)

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:37:45 PM EST
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So 201 seats, IICC (If I Counted Correctly)

Then a C+Kok government would have majority by their own.

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:41:08 PM EST
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But not an operative majority - Finnish parliamentarians are less 'whipped' than most places. Party leaders often have a job keeping their ducks in a row. Confidence votes are used fairly frequently to check the validity of coalitions, so a PM will always want to bring in minor parties as security.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:46:13 PM EST
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Of course!

Not surprising that they are less whipped considering that they actually own their seats to their voters, not party apparatus.

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:47:44 PM EST
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That's why I asked about how exactly vote were cast.
by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 03:10:01 PM EST
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Swedes: 9 (+1) (10 if you count the Åland MÅ)

Didn't Sven do some consulting for them?

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:46:14 PM EST
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From what I gather from the comments:

Biggest party gets prime minister, and makes coalition with second biggest party and possibly some small one (to get majority).

True?

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:36:37 PM EST
That's one possibility, largest + third largest is also possible (and one minor party almost certain to be in the government is the Swedes, who usually get a minister or two)

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:39:18 PM EST
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Can't live with them, can't live without them ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:42:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]
We're bitchy that way ;-)

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:43:25 PM EST
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But biggest gets prime minister was right?

So then C can choose their partners...

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:42:30 PM EST
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It has happened a couple of times that the Prime Minister didn't come from the largest party, but it's most certainly going to be Matti Vanhanen that continues as PM this time around.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:45:05 PM EST
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(and one minor party almost certain to be in the government is the Swedes, who usually get a minister or two)

Are they just devilishly good at negotiations or is it the ethnic question that keeps them in the government?

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:46:14 PM EST
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It's mostly their status as a minority party that keeps them in the government.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:48:58 PM EST
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For historical reasons there is a lot of industrial and other power vested in the big Swedish-speaking families. They also own a lot of prime property. The Swedish Culture Fund, for instance, has so much largesse to dole out each year that they have trouble finding enough projects to support.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:50:24 PM EST
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They practically own all of "Swedish Finland" at this point. I think they hold stock in almost all Swedish language newspapers, save for Vasabladet, Åbo Underrättelser and Ålandstidningen. Which is slightly scary if you think about it.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:52:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]
"the winner of the elections" will start the negotiations. In reality it is the biggest party that will call the shots.
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 02:43:09 PM EST
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First black member of the Finnish parliament was also elected (Green).
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 03:22:47 PM EST
Yes, Zahra Abdullah, a Somalian-born Green Party candidate. I'm very happy that she is elected.
(And that is one of the rare things I'm happy about now..)

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 03:27:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
And her campaign= 1500€.  Take that Shillary :D :D
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 03:32:05 PM EST
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Correction, at the moment it is not known if she will be elected or not. Close, i guess.
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 03:41:22 PM EST
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She doesn't seem to be getting elected after all. Damn.

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:46:16 PM EST
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Wasn't even close, the damn YLE reporter was all wrong..
Well, lets suffer for the next 4 years.
by allmost liberal european on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 05:08:25 PM EST
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And, apparently, also the very first Sami MP (Janne Seurujärvi, Centre)

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 03:41:37 PM EST
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Only 67.8 % voted. Blah.

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 03:36:07 PM EST
According to some swedish academian that I heard on radio today, voting participation is generally lower in Finland then in the other Nordic countries. He blamed the lack of antagonistic main opponents.

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:08:06 PM EST
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Makes sense. Many people seem to think that a) the three large parties will always stay b) it doesn't matter much which of those are in the government since the policies will be almost the same anyway.

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:29:56 PM EST
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With just over 98% counted it looks like 51 seats to the Centre Party and 49 to the Conservatives, and 46 seats to SDP.

The Swedish Folk Party has also picked up seats.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:00:32 PM EST
with 99% counted it is 51 to 50 seats

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:02:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Swedish Folk Party gained 1 seat, not 'seats' as I stated above.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:04:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Slight disappointment there for SFP, who I think was looking to pick up at least one more seat.

The True Finns took in almost as many votes as SFP and the Christian Democrats...scary stuff.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:13:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes, I think SFP should have done better. The new blood in the party administration has already started to change the party so that it is a party for all Finns, not just the swedish speaking ones. But that new blood had only a partial influence this time around. I think we will see a changed SFP in 4 years time...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:36:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I don't see the True Finns as any kind of threat. There are many insular traditonalists in every society. These people have a voice - that is democracy.

The only real threat is to Finland's reputation. No-one wants an ugly party, it's a matter of style.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:41:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm worried about the trend, is all - particularly if the number of people keep trending downwards.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:46:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Er, number of people VOTING, that is...

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:47:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I am not at all convinced it is a trend, other than that a whole bunch of ignorant people have finally discovered a party that fully represents their ignorant views. They've been having their voice the whole time, but previously they voted for the most reactionary candidate in any other established party. They've not suddenly come out of the woodwork.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:54:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Also, the election was a huge fiasco for the SDP - first time since 1962 that the party is only the third largest party.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:15:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Voting is over - now the haggling begins.

So which country is next for a parliamentary e?ection?

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 04:57:04 PM EST
I guess conventional wisdom says C+Kok+SFP is the likely one, C+SDP+SFP would be kinda' odd given the amount of seats lost between them.

Wikipedia sez:
Scotland and Wales on May 3
Iceland on May 12
France (1st round) and Belgium on June 10
France (2nd round) on June 17

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 05:27:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Then again, given that there's only a single-seat difference between the Centre and the National Coalition,  the Centre might decide having a more junior partner - the SDP - would be more beneficial.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (m<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 05:33:24 PM EST
[ Parent ]
One can hope. :-p
Coalition's Katainen was repeating that with this result, it would take "violence" to keep the Coalition from being in the government.

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by tzt (tzt) on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 05:43:05 PM EST
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No, they'll go for the NC, because their agenda lines up better. Vanhanen will probably want to get some things done this time round, like reducing taxes, and that will be easier with the NC. He'll may also hand pick an insignificant minister from a smaller party to get a few extra seats on board - though choice is limited.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 at 05:43:57 PM EST
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Hasn't Finland learned anything from the US?  The lefties and the greeens should impugn the election, take it to the Supreme Court... until they win.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Mon Mar 19th, 2007 at 06:52:54 AM EST
According to a swedish paper, the new parliament will consist of 42% women, which is a new all high record for Finland.

The green party has the highest percentage - 66,7% - and the ugly party has the lowest - 20%.

Sweden's finest (and perhaps only) collaborative, leftist e-newspaper Synapze.se

by A swedish kind of death on Mon Mar 19th, 2007 at 11:17:45 AM EST
This is both significant and encouraging. The swing to the right is, I hope, only temporary. The Greens are still a motley bunch whose opposition to nuclear power does not go down well with Finns, who are fully aware of the large proportion of our electricity that comes from rickety old reactors near St Petersberg.

They would rather trust their fellow countryman to run reactors safely.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:19:58 PM EST
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