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No German Idol: who can beat Merkel in 2009? (with poll)

by Turambar Mon Sep 3rd, 2007 at 08:52:19 AM EST

[This is my first ET diary. Every correction, suggestion, opinion, rating, ranting, pointing to mistakes or grammatical errors and the like is appreciated.]

The next Bundestag election will be in September or October of 2009 and the front lines are now being drawn inside the SPD. I will only focus on the perceived personal qualities of the candidates and the coalitions they might pull off, not on differences in policies (which are hard to identify). The Chancellor is, of course, elected by the Bundestag and theoretically, every member could be elected - but only the "official" candidate of the winning party will be. A complete list of possible candidates for the SPD:

  • ministers in the "Grand Coalition": Sigmar Gabriel (Environment), Franz Müntefering (Labour and social affairs, Vice- Chancellor), Ulla Schmidt (Health), Peer Steinbrück (Finance), Frank-Walter Steinmeier (Foreign relations), Wolfgang Tiefensee (Transport), Heidemarie Wieczorek-Zeul (Development aid), Brigitte Zypries (Justice)
  • minister- presidents of states: Kurt Beck (Rheinland-Pfalz, also the party leader), Jens Böhrnsen (Bremen), Matthias Platzeck (Brandenburg), Harald Ringstorff (Mecklenburg- Vorpommern), Klaus Wowereit (Berlin)
  • leader of the SPD group in the Bundestag: Peter Struck

    (More below)

    From the diaries (with format edit) ~ whataboutbob


I don't think anyone else might have a shot. So let's dismiss the ones who won't be running or wouldn't have a chance anyway and rate the rest on how probable a nomination by the party is. I base my prediction on popularity figures both for the country and inside the SPD. (You might notice that there is no woman with a high profile in the party at the moment.)
Highly improbable: Struck (boring), Gabriel (unpopular), Tiefensee (less known in Western Germany), Platzeck (fragile health)
Improbable: Wowereit (gay), Müntefering (too old at 67), Steinbrück (never won an election)
Front-runners: Beck, Steinmeier

So, let's have a look at the two front-runners. Beck comes across as a harmless, toothless man of the middle, who rules my home state of Rhineland- Palatine in the only coalition between SPD and FDP (the neolib Free Democrats) on the state level and is a newbie in Berlin (as party leader). While he could open up new strategic options for the SPD, like the "traffic light- coalition" (SPD=red, FDP= yellow, Greens), he's not very popular and the SPD would lose many votes to the Neue Linke (the leftists) if he's running against Merkel.

IMHO, there's no way he can beat her and the result would be either a narrow majority for CDU/CSU (the Christian Democrats of Merkel, their color is black) and FDP, the so called "black- yellow" which made Helmut Kohl Chancellor - or a renewal of the Grand Coalition which almost nobody would be happy about. There's no way that the SPD could go for a traffic light (let alone a red-green-red with the leftists) if they have a lower percentage of votes than in the last election (34%, now polling at 26-29%). By flirting with the FDP or the Linke, the SPD could also anger the Greens which might be tempted to consider the "Jamaica option" (as in the flag): black- yellow- green. Beck will probably be chosen as a candidate if the SPD has already given up on winning the election.

Steinmeier, on the other hand, is more popular (as foreign ministers always tend to be). But only amongst the people who actually know him, he's kind of a newcomer in the political spotlight, never had a seat in the Bundestag and the party base doesn't think of him as their best representative. This being said, he might just be the lesser evil. He already declared that he wants to be in the next Bundestag and visited his (conveniently) chosen district near Berlin for the first time last week to shake hands.


PICTURE: when bear Bruno created a blast in the yellow press, satire magazine Titanic had this picture of Kurt Beck with the words: "Kill the beast!" on its title.

While Beck may be perceived as too much of a laid- back uncle who likes to drink wine and occasionally ramble afterwards (or as a sheep- killing bear - the irony is strong with this one), Steinmeier is too much of a cold technocrat with no "human touch" to get much sympathy. In other words, chances are that Merkel will extend the lead of the CDU (35% last time, now polling at 37-40%) and get to quit the uneasy truce with the SPD and their unhappy marriage called Grand Coalition. The SPD only has a chance if they get the political momentum by winning some states (Länder) back in the upcoming elections - or if some unforeseeable scandal strikes the CDU in 2009. I don't think the election will be about actual policies, sad as it may be (economic upturn takes away the most important issues of the last years).


PICTURE: Steinmeier with a bloated face saying "Im not a pig- and I don't look like one"

Personally, I would like to see Wowereit make an attempt. He's the only one who could manage a coalition with the Linke on a national level, so that red-green-red becomes an option. But then again, many people are still afraid of the Linke as "communist Eastern German" party (granted, the old guard has blood on their hands) and/or won't elect a homosexual atheist. (US citizens might wonder if there's any chance in hell - pun intended - for him, so: yes, he's extremely popular in Berlin.) Maybe he should just wait a while and attack only when Merkel's "black- yellow" tanks in 2013.

[Regarding policies, weak leaders translate to a weak program. The Social Democrats have to redefine themselves between Linke and CDU. There's no workers movement anymore and the status as Volkspartei (party that every demographic can vote for) is in jeopardy. So, what exactly is "justice" in the 21. century?
No answer, no victory.]


PICTURE: Wowi with his partner (from an article in the NYT, © by getty images)

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Autumn 2008 - Bavaria (CSU)
Spring 2009 - Europe, Thuringia (CDU)
Autumn 2009 - Federal election (Bundestag), Brandenburg (SPD-CDU), Saarland (CDU), Saxony (CDU-SPD)

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Who should run against Merkel?
. Beck 16%
. Steinmeier 0%
. Wowereit 66%
. Müntefering 16%
. Steinbrück 0%

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Okay, so the pictures I chose might be "fair and balanced" in the Faux Noise- way, but that's my diary. And the whole thing is a little messed up, but I always like to digress. Sue me.
BTW, the latest poll for Saxony is the first ever (in the history of the republic) that showed SPD and CDU combined to be under 50% somewhere.

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu

by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Sun Sep 2nd, 2007 at 10:31:09 AM EST
We've had very few diaries on German politics lately, unfortunately, so this is most welcome - and useful on its own.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 2nd, 2007 at 05:52:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
How does SPD choose its chancellor candidate? And when?

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Sep 2nd, 2007 at 02:01:51 PM EST
There's no formal procedure. Most times, there will be some haggling behind closed doors and after it's clear who will become the candidate, he gets crowned at a party convention (in the spring of 2009 probably).
If there are two guys who won't compromise, the party delegates at the convention decide by voting, but I can't remember that has ever happened.

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Mon Sep 3rd, 2007 at 03:07:58 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Great! <whew!> When is the last time we heard from somebody about German politics?? Keep the commentaries coming, Turambar!

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Sun Sep 2nd, 2007 at 02:26:37 PM EST
IS Merkel to he left of most major left-wing European parties...

And what about the SPD and its economic policies.. are they sound??

I msut say I love Germany.. and I think that east Germany is a great palce to live.. if you ahve a  job... so.. is this the main goal of any german economic policy...

Everyday life is nto expensive.. flat are cheap.. houses are cheap... and compared to average salaries icnredibly cheap..... so everybody says that the key point is having a job. this is what I got form my twoo-week visit to spanish friends in east Germany (berlin, Jena, erfurt)...

what do you think??

great diary.....

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sun Sep 2nd, 2007 at 02:56:43 PM EST
I should put together my Frankfurt holiday diary soon...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Sep 2nd, 2007 at 04:48:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]
  • SPD economic policies: pretty much the trickle- down economics we see everywhere, with a slight touch of state intervention (proposal of a minimum wage etc.)

  • Merkel: she's stolen some of the SPD's positions and talking points (on family, the environment) and because she has to hold the coalition together, she's more centrist than any Chancellor we had. Not to the left.

  • living and working in Germany: I don't think of life as being cheap here, but as being repulsively expensive in, say, London. I've never been anywhere else for more than a month, so I guess it depends on what you compare it to. Official unemployment figures went down 16% in the last 12 months.


"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Mon Sep 3rd, 2007 at 03:24:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I still hold out the hope that one of the non-frontrunners is silently preparing a flash campaign to take over the party. Of those named, of course I like Heidemarie most (tho' I don't know Böhrnsen), but fat chance in hell she could subdue all the bigshots just in her own party.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Sep 2nd, 2007 at 04:46:35 PM EST
Who knows, maybe we'll even see Schröder's Second Coming?

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Mon Sep 3rd, 2007 at 03:26:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Grab a lively policy initiative like Velib (the free-bike scheme) and run with it. Some spectacular (and very green) transport initiative should do it.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 2nd, 2007 at 05:51:51 PM EST
  • Gabriel and Steinbrück are both damaged goods - lost state elections as PMs before becoming ministers.

  • Gabriel is widely seen as the most ambitious of the lot. My gut feeling is if he sees as much as a shred of support in the party, he'll make a play for it.

  • Steinmeier is (or at least used to be) very close to Gerhard Schröder. He was Schröder's chief of staff, and the two go back a long way. Steinmeier's chances at the nomination might come down to a test of how much influence Schröder still has in the party.

  • Unless the party nominates somebody with cred on the left, they will get slaughtered by the Linke and the Greens. That to me suggests an advantage for Müntefering, Tiefensee, Platzeck, and Wieczorek-Zeul. My money is currently on Müntefering and Tiefensee.

  • Am I the only one here who sees a semblance between "Red Heidi" (Wieczorek-Zeul) and Ségolène Royal?


If you can't convince them, confuse them. (Harry S. Truman)
by brainwave on Sun Sep 2nd, 2007 at 09:35:41 PM EST
Unless the party nominates somebody with cred on the left, they will get slaughtered by the Linke and the Greens. That to me suggests an advantage for Müntefering, Tiefensee, Platzeck, and Wieczorek-Zeul.

On Müntefering: he's perceived to have some "left cred" in the public (because of the "locust debate"), but not so much inside the party (he's for higher retirement age etc.).

Tiefensee: almost no one knows him. He'd have to come out into the sunshine pretty soon. On the plus side, elections are essentially won in east Germany, because there are the most swing voters.

That's also a plus for Platzeck. But he disappointed many of his fans when he had to give up again just after becoming party leader.

"Red Heidi": now this is a joke, right? I mean, just picture her meeting Bush and try not to laugh.

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu

by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Mon Sep 3rd, 2007 at 03:41:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]
As far as Tiefensee goes, he's pushing hard and vocally to privatize the railroad - a proposition with a lot more political momentum than popularity.

If that isn't enough to kill his career ambitions once and for all, there is justice in this...

Wait, what am I saying!?

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Sep 3rd, 2007 at 04:23:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]
he's pushing hard and vocally to privatize the railroad
That seems to be in the job description for a minister of transportation, as it's been planned for more than 10 years now and will happen sooner or later. The question is how to preserve which level of (federal and state) control over the DB. Tiefensee is certainly too confident about market mechanisms, no one wants to repeat the British example.

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Mon Sep 3rd, 2007 at 06:13:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]
it's been planned for more than 10 years now and will happen sooner or later.

Unfortunately. (It's been planned ever since Deutsche Bahn became DB AG, back in the Kohl era [Dürr era for DB].)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 07:08:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
As far as I can see Wowi and Steinmeier are both damaged goods as well. Wowi lost the suit of Berlin against the federal government for aid in reducing the deficit and IMO made a mistake in going into a unstable second red-red coalition instead of opting for red-green. Politically it made some sense, but in terms of policy and governance, not so much.

Steinmeier still has to face some questions on the case of Murat Kurnaz.

Merkel, by the way, has an approval rating at mid-time of 76% (de). If nothing major (very, very major) changes, this means that the SPD can't fight the next elections on personality, as they did with the last.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Mon Sep 3rd, 2007 at 09:56:39 AM EST
the SPD can't fight the next elections on personality
As I've tried to show, it's not a promising way to win, but I also don't think they can fight successfully on policy issues without blowing up the coalition. They can't really go to the left, so they are stuck in mostly the same positions the CDU has.
At the moment, I'm watching the book presentation of Platzeck, Steinbrück and Steinmeier (the "Schröder reforms wing"). More here.

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Mon Sep 3rd, 2007 at 11:43:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Can they then blow up the coalition and win?

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by A swedish kind of death on Mon Sep 3rd, 2007 at 12:23:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]
After Schröder had to call for new elections in 2005, it wouldn't go down well in the public if the SPD is seen as deliberately giving up the government AGAIN. It would have to be about a very popular and divisive issue where the SPD can get more support for its side AND they'd have to put the blame on Merkel somehow. Not exactly promising either.

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 02:28:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Willy Brandt Haus, right? I considered going there as well, but didn't. What was the presentation like, any lively debate?

There are, I think, plenty of issues on which the SPD can define itself separately from the CDU, transparantly fight a battle and come to a decent compromise. The minimum wage issue was one where I think they did it quite successfully. They should seek out further issues, like, say, free university tuition.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 08:50:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The debate was quite interesting. Hans-Jochen Vogel was presenting the book and critizised some things about the concept "vorsorgender Sozialstaat". Müntefering and Nahles were there, Beck was mentioned a lot, all in all it made me a little more hopeful about "defining the party separately".

I wasn't there, btw, I watched it on Phoenix. I'm not in Berlin and no SPD member.

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu

by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 09:29:32 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Thanks.

I don't think you had to be a SPD member to get in, though maybe you'd have to register in advance. I'm not SPD either (don't even know if I could be as a foreigner, and anyway, I'm more sympathetic towards the greens).

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Tue Sep 4th, 2007 at 09:39:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
more sympathetic towards the greens
Yup, me too.

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Wed Sep 5th, 2007 at 01:00:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Ein teil meine hertzen leigt immer in Berlin.  Fiel gluck an diese whale.
I know, it's been ten years and I do forget my German but I do wish these special people the best in their selection for the future, something I can't say for my own "homeland".
by Lasthorseman on Mon Sep 3rd, 2007 at 10:44:34 PM EST


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