Tue Jan 15th, 2008 at 10:24:25 PM EST
Looking at this diary it may be seen as criticising bruno-ken. That would be unfair. I can not claim to have come through the Internet without being fooled in similar ways. Part of the lesson of the Internet is that there are people out there who deliberately lie, and the Internet is an excellent medium for lying. It has at times been a hard lesson for me to learn. It would be wrong to assume that others should do better than me.
It seems that the allegation that he began a sexual relationship with Aisha when she was 9 years old is correct.
i just googled this, and i am stunned. i had thought he had married Aisha as a formality because she was an orphan or something. but the consensus does seem that she was indeed nine when the marriage was consummated.
even more disturbing to me is this practice of mufa'khathat --
"literally translated means "placing between the thighs" which means placing the male member between the thighs of a child)"
-- which was apparently explicitly condoned by the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in his Tahrir-ol-vasyleh:
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements:
"A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven."
Khomeini, "Tahrirolvasyleh" fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990
(Yahoo! Answers: Muslims, what is mufa'khathat? I heard it translated to "thighing"? I wanted to be sure?)
This seems too outrageous to be true. And coming from Yahoo! Answers, I am withholding judgement. Can anyone shed some light here?
Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by bruno-ken (brunoken at gmail punkt com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2008 at 07:36:30 AM EDT
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Not only does it sound too outrageious to be true, it sounds like something made up, or more precisely hate speech. Some quick searching shows that it appears to be new. I.e. made up.
Wikipedia: There is no page titled "Mufa'khathat".
There is a comment in wikipedia comments where someone had tried to insert it into an article.
fringe minority view from publication that apparently doesn't cite its original source
firstly, there's no need to play coy - the intent and purpose of the quote is polemical and to draw ridicule.
this 1985 publication from Bantam Books seems to be out of print, its reputation on Islamic topics is unknown, the compiler's competence in Islam is unknown, the "quotes" themselves come from unknown/uncited sources according to an owner.
the focus is also tangental, hardly related to the topic of the section (when the age of marriage/intercourse is), and offers undue weight towards a minority Shi'ite view (one quote from Khomeini about the age of marriage is sufficient coverage), and is clearly tailored to serve an agenda. let's be sensible, and not make the bias so overt. ITAQALLAH 19:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
from the edit pages of wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Islam_and_children#Child_enslavement
Looking through some more places where one would expect it to be found if it were legitimate:
Britannica online: Sorry, we were unable to find results for your search.
Beliefnet search: Your search - Mufa'khathat - did not match any documents.
Religioustolerance.org: Your search - Mufa'khathat - did not match any documents.
google Mufa'khathat Results 1 - 10 of about 740 for Mufa'khathat.
If Mufa'khathat were real one would expect hits significantly higher than 740. It is after all people like Hitchen's (Defending Islamofascism) idea of a wet dream.
Here is an example of how mufa'khathat is used.
PEDOPHILIA LAWS FROM ISLAMIC-FATWA.NET - `It has become widespread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufa'khathat of the children.
So Muslim men on their wedding days rape children. Note that almost 1/2 of the sites are quoting this statement. "Mufa'khathat" is feeding on people's hate and racism.
google "habit of mufa'khathat of the children." Results 1 - 10 of about 333 for "habit of mufa'khathat of the children."
Compare with another forgery - the Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion
To what extent the whole existence of this people is based on a continuous lie is shown incomparably by the Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion, so infinitely hated by the Jews. They are based on a forgery, the Frankfurter Zeitung moans and screams once every week: the best proof that they are authentic. [...] the important thing is that with positively terrifying certainty they reveal the nature and activity of the Jewish people and expose their inner contexts as well as their ultimate final aims
Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf: Chapter XI: Nation and Race, Vol I, pp. 307-308.
And mufa'khathat reveals the nature and activity of the Muslim people and exposes their inner contexts as well as their ultimate final aims. Or more precisely, it displays the same racism and hatred that allowed Hitler to come to power in the first place.