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by LEP Sun Oct 26th, 2008 at 07:06:02 AM EST
Greetings and welcome to the 58th Friday Photo Blog. Tonight's special subject is "fish markets"; just kidding it's "food."
And, of course we will have our "photos as usual" and "ask the experts" sections.
So, post away!
Sunday pix promoted by afew
Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
and for dessert:
Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
click images to enlarge
Someone may be able to tell us if these are food or poisonous. I don't know and am unwilling to be a test case. I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
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I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
Lisbon, a city with a strong personality.
Lemonade & Beachside houses, Floral sex, & See-through blouses Making things & Sunset dances Fluffy things, & Taking chances Blue reflections, & One-eyed sharks Wavy lines, & Birds in parks Meeting friends Like you & me Girls & dogs & Symmetry The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
Happy photography! "Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
I had become very impressed with the Canon G10 after just a few days of earlier light-duty testing. Each evening that week I would sit with my 15" Macbook Pro reviewing the day's files. At one point I found myself looking at raw files on-screen and not being sure if I was looking at Hasselblad P45+ files or Canon G10 files. That includes at 100% onscreen enlargements. Now, I'm no newbe. After some 50 years in this industry I know what I'm looking at, be it a screen blow-up or a print, and I certainly don't confuse how something looks on a 15" laptop screen (though properly profiled and calibrated) with how it will turn out on a critically produced exhibition-quality print. But nevertheless, I was curious about what I was seeing. In fact I was more than curious, I was somewhat amazed [that's like being "a BIT astonished" :-) - Friday open thread]. ... Over a two day period I invited photographers and local industry professionals to come to my print studio and look at a series of 13X19" prints ... In every case no one could reliably tell the difference between 13X19" prints shot with the $40,000 Hasselblad and Phase One 39 Megapixel back, and the new $500 Canon G10. In the end no one got more than 60% right, and overall the split was about 50 / 50, with no clear differentiator. In other words, no better than chance. In fact it was the H2 system's narrower depth of field that occasionally was the only clear give-away. Some viewers eventually figured out that the prints with the narrower depth of field were from medium format, while other photographers chose the G10 images because with its wider depth of field it created an overall impression of greater sharpness. Needless to say there was much shaking of heads and muttering. Could this be? Could a $500 digicam equal a $40,000 medium format digital system in image quality, at least in prints up to 13X19" (Super A3)? ... But, with all of these caveats, the take-away as I see it is that the new Canon G10 has crossed a threshold; one in which an inexpensive pocket camera can produce very high quality images, at least on moderate sized prints, which is what most photographers end up making. Will I be selling my Hasselblad and Phase One back? No, of course not. Why would I? Each system has its place and specialized function. Indeed I'm really excited about testing the new Phase One P65+ and to acquiring one as soon as it becomes available. But, the next time I take a walk in the woods, or go on a family vacation, I know which camera is going to be along for the trip, nicely tucked away in my jacket pocket. The Canon G10. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/kidding.shtml
Now, I'm no newbe. After some 50 years in this industry I know what I'm looking at, be it a screen blow-up or a print, and I certainly don't confuse how something looks on a 15" laptop screen (though properly profiled and calibrated) with how it will turn out on a critically produced exhibition-quality print. But nevertheless, I was curious about what I was seeing. In fact I was more than curious, I was somewhat amazed [that's like being "a BIT astonished" :-) - Friday open thread].
...
Over a two day period I invited photographers and local industry professionals to come to my print studio and look at a series of 13X19" prints ...
In every case no one could reliably tell the difference between 13X19" prints shot with the $40,000 Hasselblad and Phase One 39 Megapixel back, and the new $500 Canon G10. In the end no one got more than 60% right, and overall the split was about 50 / 50, with no clear differentiator. In other words, no better than chance.
In fact it was the H2 system's narrower depth of field that occasionally was the only clear give-away. Some viewers eventually figured out that the prints with the narrower depth of field were from medium format, while other photographers chose the G10 images because with its wider depth of field it created an overall impression of greater sharpness.
Needless to say there was much shaking of heads and muttering. Could this be? Could a $500 digicam equal a $40,000 medium format digital system in image quality, at least in prints up to 13X19" (Super A3)? ... But, with all of these caveats, the take-away as I see it is that the new Canon G10 has crossed a threshold; one in which an inexpensive pocket camera can produce very high quality images, at least on moderate sized prints, which is what most photographers end up making.
Will I be selling my Hasselblad and Phase One back? No, of course not. Why would I? Each system has its place and specialized function. Indeed I'm really excited about testing the new Phase One P65+ and to acquiring one as soon as it becomes available.
But, the next time I take a walk in the woods, or go on a family vacation, I know which camera is going to be along for the trip, nicely tucked away in my jacket pocket. The Canon G10.
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/kidding.shtml
You don't get anything like focal range of the lens recommended by Len, but then this whole camera - with video too ! is cheaper than that lens, and another pro finds it OK:
Another change from the G9 is the lens. It has a shorter maximum focal length, but gets wider. Instead of the G9's 35mm to 210mm (equivalent) lens, it has a 28mm to 140mm (equivalent) lens. The wider angle is frequently appreciated, and I rarely miss the longer telephoto on the G9. ... Canon has now demonstrated that a small camera with a small sensor can provide the ergonomics, speed, flexibility, and image quality that would please most serious photographers. http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/10/canon-g10-revie.html
Another change from the G9 is the lens. It has a shorter maximum focal length, but gets wider. Instead of the G9's 35mm to 210mm (equivalent) lens, it has a 28mm to 140mm (equivalent) lens. The wider angle is frequently appreciated, and I rarely miss the longer telephoto on the G9. ... Canon has now demonstrated that a small camera with a small sensor can provide the ergonomics, speed, flexibility, and image quality that would please most serious photographers.
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/10/canon-g10-revie.html
From Amazon:
I was able to get extremely sharp photos in macro mode (closeups of bees in flowers, that kind of thing), again without a tripod.
The cheaper not-quite-SLRs with fixed lenses give you 90% of the image quality with much less weight and bulk. You'll be able to shoot from tele to macro with just the one unit without needing to buy or carry around extra lenses.
A photo you miss because you didn't take out your camera because it was too heavy and/or valuable, or because you had to pause to swap a lens, is a photo that's gone forever.
The sub-SLRs make it much more likely you'll get that photo. The differences in image quality aren't noticeable unless you know exactly what to look for.
I've used my Fuji sub-SLR far more than I've used my Fuji SLR, even though the complete SLR kit cost something like ten times as much.
For a comparison, see if you can tell which camera was used in the respective images I posted above.
with 500 pixel wide jpegs at 72 dpi one wouldn't expect much of a difference - now with 13 x 19 inch prints, as in the review of the G10 - that was "somewhat amazing" :-) Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
My personal preferences in this stuff runs towards the Ricohs - Sam's pictures above were taken with a 299 R7 - and they specialize in close up stuff - they'll focus down to a few cm on front of the lens. My sister-in-law bought the R8 when she started asking the same question as you and she's happy with it. These are tiny pocket cameras.
I'd say a G10 would be too much as well, and I hate the interface on that class of Canons. Anyway, they're too goddamn big.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond60/
navigation is the via the drop-down menu above the main photo, e.g. to page 30 ! and the conclusion:
But let's not forget what the D60 has to offer; it's still one of the most affordable cameras in its class and it represents the perfect 'upgrade' camera for anyone who has outgrown their digital compact camera and is looking to dip a first toe in the world of the digital SLR. Its output is consistently good (the JPEGs are excellent and its raw files have lots of dynamic range headroom), it's a pleasure to use and, handles well and weighs very little. And as I've stressed throughout this review, it makes getting pleasing results incredibly easy. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond60/page30.asp
But let's not forget what the D60 has to offer; it's still one of the most affordable cameras in its class and it represents the perfect 'upgrade' camera for anyone who has outgrown their digital compact camera and is looking to dip a first toe in the world of the digital SLR. Its output is consistently good (the JPEGs are excellent and its raw files have lots of dynamic range headroom), it's a pleasure to use and, handles well and weighs very little. And as I've stressed throughout this review, it makes getting pleasing results incredibly easy.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond60/page30.asp
D80 at http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond80/ Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
An advanced feature of the D80 is the ability to remotely command a flash unit.
But the lens compatibility is what made me go for the D80 some months ago. Today i would probably go for the D90, but thats one step above current price range of the 60's and 80's.
I also am finding that digital has other issues. Even the lowly D40 (6mpl) is more complicated than I like. Too many menus. In additon, digital's limited tonal capture range is annoying. Still, with care (and ignoring the menu options) it's a joy to use and I love the near instant gratification that digital offers over film.
I believe the D40 is a twin, in size, of the D40. If correct it's incredibly light and the new (non pro class) lenses are also small and light making the entire kit very easy to transport. I believe the D60 also offers auto sensor dust removal whereas the earlier D80s (at least) do not. I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
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