The European Tribune is a forum for thoughtful dialogue of European and international issues. You are invited to post comments and your own articles.
Please REGISTER to post.
by afew Wed Oct 29th, 2008 at 11:24:09 AM EST
Question: When is ET going to start producing its own pieces for YOUTUBE? They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
A cracking action film, but nothing more. The emotional power, intelligence and sheer stylishness of Casino Royale has been lost amidst the noisy blur of sub-Bourne action sequences. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7696714.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7696714.stm
I like the Bourne films - Bond films are now trying to emulate them. Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
Sigh. I just hope the Craig series won't be a Brosnan-repeat, which began promising with "Goldeneye" and then sank into abysmal forgetfulness.
Also I wonder if Craig (and the script) manages to continue the picture of Bond as painted in "Casino Royale" - I may get shouted at for this, but Craig embodies Bond top-notch IMO, similar to Connery in the first Bond movies - aristocratic, cynical, harsh.
If Craig-era Bond captures the mood of the books, that would be worth seeing. I haven't seen Casino Royale yet, so I should probably do that before seeing this.
I have a biography of Fleming somewhere - he was a ranking officer in the Royal Navy, and seems to have had some unusual commissions, so Bond may not be total fiction. ;)
Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand are to be suspended and all their shows taken off air until the BBC has investigated their prank calls made on Radio 2. It follows a series of calls made by the pair to actor Andrew Sachs on Brand's Saturday night programme. The actor, 78, said he would not be reporting the matter to police. Meanwhile, Brand has told reporters: "It would be silly of me to speak without thinking because that's caused all this trouble in the first place." He added he was sorry he upset Sachs, famous for his part in Fawlty Towers, over comments made about the actor's granddaughter. ... During the calls, Ross swore and said Brand had slept with Sachs' granddaughter. More than 18,000 people have complained to the BBC while watchdog Ofcom has launched its own investigation. ... Meanwhile, Ms Baillie, 23, told the Sun the pair should "pay for what they've done with their jobs". She said her grandfather was "really upset and says he wants the whole situation to end". "What's funny about humiliating a lovely old man who has never harmed anyone in his life?" she added. She said Brand and Ross were "beyond contempt". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7696714.stm
Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand are to be suspended and all their shows taken off air until the BBC has investigated their prank calls made on Radio 2.
It follows a series of calls made by the pair to actor Andrew Sachs on Brand's Saturday night programme.
The actor, 78, said he would not be reporting the matter to police.
Meanwhile, Brand has told reporters: "It would be silly of me to speak without thinking because that's caused all this trouble in the first place."
He added he was sorry he upset Sachs, famous for his part in Fawlty Towers, over comments made about the actor's granddaughter.
... During the calls, Ross swore and said Brand had slept with Sachs' granddaughter.
More than 18,000 people have complained to the BBC while watchdog Ofcom has launched its own investigation.
... Meanwhile, Ms Baillie, 23, told the Sun the pair should "pay for what they've done with their jobs".
She said her grandfather was "really upset and says he wants the whole situation to end".
"What's funny about humiliating a lovely old man who has never harmed anyone in his life?" she added.
She said Brand and Ross were "beyond contempt".
Craig is believable in an unbelievable role. Most of the acting is good.
I've never been a fan, but the Bonds are always interesting as mainstream zeitgeist metrics of cinema technology, stunts, sex and humour. This Bond puts sex to one side, replacing with with a kind of lost love carried over from act one. The humour is there, but it is less imposed than before and more nuanced. You need to pay attention, because the humour, like everything else, is not signaled in advance. Stunts are here in plenty, and very well choreographed they are, strung like pearls along a simple plot thread. The plot is how Bond, as usual, takes on an organization (in this case, an publicly green corporation) bent on `market' domination, crashes through a variety of locations killing a lot of blue meanies, and is tested for loyalty by everyone - including M.
There's hardly any CGI, and all the gadgets are believable - with a short leap of faith. The movie is well photographed by a director-chosen cameraman, but not stylized. The most interesting part for me was the editing.
Forster takes fragmented editing to a cubist/impressionist high. He had his own edit crew with him and continues editing ideas that he has explored in earlier movies. These kinetic cutting methods were also used by Paul Greengrass in United 93 and the Bourne Ultimatum. All the action sequences are largely created by details, with only short establishing shots. What happens is `broken up, analysed and reassembled' from multiple points of view. Even though time is not tampered with, the reassembly has more to do with external space i.e. where are `you' in all this?
The impressionistic part is that the details you need to know where you are, are rarely centre frame: they are glimpsed, seen at the last moment, almost throwaway. But miss them and you can get giddy. It forces you to pay attention - forces you to the edge of your seat. So yes - it is exciting ;-)
A lot of these details were surely very hard to set up. There's a feeling of improvisation in the action that hasn't been part of Bond before. Multiple cameras are needed. The same stunts must have been done many times to cover all the action. And the director can never be sure what has been captured at the time of shooting.
I don't think I've given anything away that will spoil your enjoyment. I'd be interested to know what you think when you've seen it. You can't be me, I'm taken
Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
QOS is part of a trilogy that began with Casino Royale and is thus ACT II in the standard structured conflict drama - the context has been established with Casino, QOC sets up the dilemmas for all the characters with whom we identify, the third as yet unknown movie will play out the 3rd act conflicts to an audience acceptable resolution.
Hey, didn't even know that.
So eye-candy and thrill-ride, suits me fine. The Batman managed the same thing.
Lack of CGI: good. That struck me with Casino Royale - toning down the CGI improved the story and the suspense. I mean, because of Casino Royale, there's a new world-record of a car doing barrel-rolls... Sure, not the most cerebral of records, but still...
Should I watch the Bourne movies? I never have done...
Great stuff. I'll try to pitch in my take - whenever I get a chance to see it... Which might be mid-December...
Bourne Supremacy:
It is a spy film for adults and it avoids over the top pyrotechnics and jokey one-liners, and instead delivers a mature, intelligent thriller. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bourne_supremacy/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bourne_supremacy/
Paul Greengrass, director:
That's the most important thing for me, that they entertain people, but I really admire the franchise because right in the mainstream of the franchise bit of Hollywood, the great engine that drives this industry, you've got a franchise that's smart and good and very very contemporary about contemporary themes with a progressive character and he's a character with heart and soul. He's not a character about the clothes he wears and `the Prada this'. He's not about bikinis coming out of the water. He's not about surface; he's about core and authenticity. He's a moral character. It's not about gadgets and it's not about CGI. He's the real deal, and he kicks ass. That's what I love about him, so the idea of this franchise taking its place alongside the other great franchises, I love all those movies, I'm not knocking them. But here is this really strong, contemporary modern character and a real force for good and smart and cool in a franchise world, I'm very proud of it. I'm very proud of Universal letting us do it that way because, believe me, it takes balls when you are spending the amount of money that these films cost. To let us do it in the way we do, which is, I used to say, this is the first $100 million student movie. It's a laugh, but it's the truth though. You make it a bit like that. A Bourne movie isn't an airline meal. A lot of these things are. It's not all pre-packed. You find it as you go. That's fun for us, but if you are a studio you've got to have real trust and conviction to back that. Nobody in the two films has once said `no'. http://www.getfrank.co.nz/paul-greengrass-director-of-the-bourne-ultimatum/
To let us do it in the way we do, which is, I used to say, this is the first $100 million student movie. It's a laugh, but it's the truth though. You make it a bit like that. A Bourne movie isn't an airline meal. A lot of these things are. It's not all pre-packed. You find it as you go. That's fun for us, but if you are a studio you've got to have real trust and conviction to back that. Nobody in the two films has once said `no'.
http://www.getfrank.co.nz/paul-greengrass-director-of-the-bourne-ultimatum/
I have a soft spot for Hollywood thrillers with a European setting -- Ronin, The Train, Frantic -- and at least the first Bourne movie is highly recommended. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
The one thing I disliked strongly in the second was that they killed off Lola (I mean the one who runs :-) ). *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
I took this photo for you btw.
But you should be a little more forgiving on this train thing... :) It's relatively good promotion, considering. (If it still existed I reeeeeeeally would've liked taking the Orient Express, the original route.)
I'll try out Bourne whenever I may be offered the chance...
*Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
Also, because I want to learn what the hell "quantum of solace" actually means. "Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
I like the Craig character. I know he's not the most suave of the Bonds (my mother favored Sean Connery). But the combo of the moodiness and those shoulders - swoon... "Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
..."the Mafia? I've shit 'em..." "The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
"In a sense, I think it was a good move to use an original title from Ian Fleming." Below is an excerpt from the short story Quantum of Solace from Ian Fleming's For Your Eyes Only. "I've seen flagrant infidelities patched up, I've seen crimes and even murder foreign by the other party, let alone bankruptcy and other forms of social crime. Incurable disease, blindness, disaster - all of these can be overcome. But never the death of common humanity in one of the partners. I've thought about this and I've invented a rather high-sounding title for this basic factor in human relations. I have called it the law of the Quantum of Solace. Bond said, "That's a splendid name for it. It's certainly impressive enough. And of course I see what you mean. I should say you're absolutely right. Quantum of Solace - the amount of comfort. Yes, I suppose you can say that all love and friendship is based in the end on that. Human beings are very insecure. When the other person not only makes you feel insecure but actually seems to want to destroy you, it's obviously the end. The Quantum of Solace stands at zero. You've got to get away to save yourself." http://www.universalexports.net/Movies/quantumofsolace-defined.shtml
"I've seen flagrant infidelities patched up, I've seen crimes and even murder foreign by the other party, let alone bankruptcy and other forms of social crime. Incurable disease, blindness, disaster - all of these can be overcome. But never the death of common humanity in one of the partners. I've thought about this and I've invented a rather high-sounding title for this basic factor in human relations. I have called it the law of the Quantum of Solace.
Bond said, "That's a splendid name for it. It's certainly impressive enough. And of course I see what you mean. I should say you're absolutely right. Quantum of Solace - the amount of comfort. Yes, I suppose you can say that all love and friendship is based in the end on that. Human beings are very insecure. When the other person not only makes you feel insecure but actually seems to want to destroy you, it's obviously the end. The Quantum of Solace stands at zero. You've got to get away to save yourself."
http://www.universalexports.net/Movies/quantumofsolace-defined.shtml
No one give away anything else, please. "Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
'Smarter than you'd expect' lyrics take a few digs at McCain/Palin. If she could sing, it would be helpful. But at least there's some irony being bandied about. You can't be me, I'm taken
What do my taxes pay for? Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
It's getting cold over here (we might have snow tomorrow), which makes the open-air swimming pool and water rides oddly more enjoyable. The kids ate having a great time, and I guess this is good for the parents too, even as we deal with the logistics of it all.
I'm collecting articles or links for posts, in the meantime... In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
The FT has an astonishing lead today, a leak of the International Energy Agency's latest report on World Energy Output. The paper has been slipped a draft and it apparently shows that without the oil companies pumping loads more cash into exploration - and fast - output of oil is going to decline at 9.1% a year. So much for a downturn in the oil price. The fear is of course that the credit crunch will lead oil majors to delay decisions about investment just as big established fields, such as our own North Sea, are in terminal decline (although I suppose to be pedantic oil fields are always in terminal decline but you know what I mean).
The paper has been slipped a draft and it apparently shows that without the oil companies pumping loads more cash into exploration - and fast - output of oil is going to decline at 9.1% a year.
So much for a downturn in the oil price. The fear is of course that the credit crunch will lead oil majors to delay decisions about investment just as big established fields, such as our own North Sea, are in terminal decline (although I suppose to be pedantic oil fields are always in terminal decline but you know what I mean).
you are the media you consume.
solution of the credit crisis.
Solution...??!!
What planet are these people on? "The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
B-B-B-Benny and the Inkjets!
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
[Drew's WHEEEEE™ Technology] Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
The importance of fairness in an economic downturn EQUALITY means very different things to different people. Britons, for their part, are less convinced that folk should be similarly prosperous than that they should have an equal shot at success. The government shifts money around a bit by taxing and redistributing it (less than in the Nordic countries, more than in America), but the big goal is to make sure that anyone who works hard can get ahead.
EQUALITY means very different things to different people. Britons, for their part, are less convinced that folk should be similarly prosperous than that they should have an equal shot at success. The government shifts money around a bit by taxing and redistributing it (less than in the Nordic countries, more than in America), but the big goal is to make sure that anyone who works hard can get ahead.
I'm not convinced that the article is very coherent, but there's a nice graph:
Might that graph go a long way to answering this question? Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
With respect to the graph on the right, the conservative USAn response of course is: The U.S. has the highest median income, as nicely shown in that graph. Clearly the middle classes do best in our country. They have nothing to complain about. On the contrary, they should be grateful to be living in the U.S. Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
If so, doesn't it make sense only to compare father/son income correlation between countries that have roughly the same Gini coefficient (e.g. Britain vs. Spain, Italy vs. the USA, France vs. Germany, etc.)? Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
CO: Obama 53 - McCain 45 VA: Obama 53 - McCain 44 FL: Obama 51 - McCain 47 GA: McCain 52 - Obama 47 MO: McCain 50 - Obama 48
Only ones with any movement beyond a point a point are Colorado (+8 vs last week's +4) and Georgia (-5 vs last week's -8).
My guess is the national polls will be ticking up a bit tomorrow, but who knows? Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
North Dakota is anybody's guess. Every poll has had Obama either ahead or tied.
I'm inclined to give McCain the edge in both, in a similar way to Georgia, but none are out of the realm of possibility. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
AT, you're from New Mexico, so you'll know: What are the odds in AZ? Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
There has been an influx of young people that could help counter the Old Folks (the Senile Citizens as my 98 year old father-in-law says) communities.
Latinos and the First Nations will go heavily Obama. There's been an influx of younger and educated people over the last 10 years that has been steadily turning the state Blue-ish. These groups should go heavily Obama and Democrat.
But I note Kyl (GOP, dimwit) was re-elected in '06 handily.
Based on the recent polling I give odds of 6:5 for McCain. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
A GOP operative was "speechless," and the McCain campaign is, um, let's say less than thrilled. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
A news blow-out featuring this latest episode in her limitless ambition and self-confidence would be very timely.
Nice timing too, given that Obama's network infomercial thingy is on tonight. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
2012 - depends if the Rs reorganise. As I said - I can imagine a much-weakened business sector reaching an understanding with the theocons, because some power is better than no power. And the paleocons would love her, because she practically promises war.
But the problem is - she's such an ass. She's a political barrel scraping, and even if someone was leading the theocons in a crusade against Socialist Black Dude, it wouldn't necessarily be her.
Besides - criminal investigations are pending.
I think her stock is about to crash. Her VP run has been an entertaining delusion, but she's not enough of a heavyweight to make it stick without unified support. And the fact is, she helped lose it for McCain. That's not going to make her popular with the serious party faithful, who aren't as hypnotised by the winks and the expensive hemline as her fans are.
I'd be more worried that longer term she'll be the figurehead of a new evangelical media corpse - something to replace Fox when Rupe meets his horned maker. With that to rally the base, she could have a hope two or three cycles from now.
I've little doubt she'll run in 2012 if they lose, but I can't see her getting the nomination, let alone beating a possible President Obama. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
A rock?
The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves;
one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves
You can't be president if you live in the same state as...yourself?
That seems a very clumsily-written sentence. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
In that scenario I see consecutive wins for a newly redistributive based democratic party winning out by small margins over the fundie party with the then marginalized business wing of the old republican party siphoning off just enough votes from the fundie party to hand victory to the democrats.
Collect the series! She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
35% of Floridians have already voted. Dems are widening their advantage, now 45% Dem vs 39% Rep when counting early voting (in-person) plus absentee ballots.
Things are still roaring in NC. It's not the 2-to-1 advantage it once was, but it's pretty damned close to that still. I'm guessing they're near 40% of the 2004 vote already. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Frank Schnittger - Jan 26 3 comments
by Frank Schnittger - Jan 31
by Frank Schnittger - Jan 22 3 comments
by Cat - Jan 25 55 comments
by Oui - Jan 9 21 comments
by Frank Schnittger - Jan 13 28 comments
by gmoke - Jan 20
by Oui - Jan 15 91 comments
by Oui - Feb 13 comments
by gmoke - Jan 29
by Oui - Jan 2731 comments
by Frank Schnittger - Jan 263 comments
by Cat - Jan 2555 comments
by Frank Schnittger - Jan 223 comments
by Oui - Jan 2110 comments
by Oui - Jan 21
by Oui - Jan 20
by Oui - Jan 1841 comments
by Oui - Jan 1591 comments
by Oui - Jan 144 comments
by Frank Schnittger - Jan 1328 comments
by Oui - Jan 1221 comments
by Oui - Jan 1120 comments
by Oui - Jan 1034 comments
by Oui - Jan 921 comments
by NBBooks - Jan 810 comments