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by Fran Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:15:17 PM EST

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by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:15:51 PM EST
EU Finds Solution to Biofuel Battle | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 05.12.2008
The European Union is set to promote green energy after finally resolving a long-running conflict over biofuels. Demanding that the legislation be reviewed in 2014, Italy could slow Europe's race to fight climate change.

"We have agreement on everything except the deletion of the review clause," the European Parliament's lead negotiator Claude Turmes said on Thursday, Dec. 4 following extensive closed-door talks.

The debate surrounding biofuels flared up in January when the European Commission proposed that 10 percent of road transport fuel should come from renewable resources by the year 2020. Biofuels would comprise a large portion of such resources, meaning that a large market currently coveted by exporters such as Brazil and Indonesia would be opened up.

Environmentalists have opposed this move, claiming that biofuels made from grains and oilseeds were driving food prices higher and causing famers to expand their farms by infringing upon rainforests and wetlands.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:18:25 PM EST
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European Parliament capitulates on biofuel deal - EUobserver

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - The policy tennis match between biofuels supporters and opponents in the European Union has all but drawn to a close, with the backers of the controversial fuel source securing almost complete victory.

Representatives of EU members states, the European Parliament and the European Commission this week came to a back-room agreement that supports the sourcing of 10 percent of the EU's road transport fuel from renewable forms of energy by 2020 - the same target figure originally proposed by the EU executive in January of this year.

Biofuels, such as palm oil in indonesia, have been the focus of a battle royale in Brussels over the past year

When the proposal was first unveiled, most policymakers assumed that biofuels would make up all or most of the 10 percent figure.

But in the wake of reports from the World Bank through to the UN saying that in many cases biofuels produced more greenhouse gases than fossil fuels and threatened global food supplies, EU lawmakers were under pressure to slim down or abandon the biofuels element of the 10 percent renewable transport fuel target.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:18:54 PM EST
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French Headscarf Ban Not Discrimination, Says European Court | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 05.12.2008
Europe's top courts have ruled in favor of a French school that expelled two Muslim girls for refusing to remove their headscarves for physical education classes. The ruling fuels the debate over secularism in France.

The European Court of Human Rights has dismissed a complaint by two French Muslim girls that their school violated their freedom of religion and their right to an education. The girls were expelled after repeatedly refusing to remove their headscarves for physical education classes.

The teacher had said that wearing a headscarf was incompatible with physical education classes. The girls, Belgin Dogru and Esma-Nur Kervanci, are French nationals and were 11 and 12 respectively when they were expelled from the school in the north-western town of Flers in 1999.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:19:12 PM EST
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French Headscarf Ban Not Discrimination, Says European Court | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 05.12.2008 The teacher had said that wearing a headscarf was incompatible with physical education classes.

Hmmm, that's interesting.  Even Olympic athletes are able to compete with headscarves.  Some in defiance of the very same misogynistic forces that the principle of laïcité supposedly protects girls from:

On the other hand, headscarves may very well compromise students' safety in certain physical education activities, for example if the students were learning judo (and even in that case, the safety risk of wearing a headscarf is debatable, as apparently women judokas in Egypt, Morocco and Algeria compete while wearing headscarves).  And if safety is genuinely compromised, then that is a legitimate reason to disallow wearing headscarves in that particular activity -- in which case the students should be offered the option to sit out of class. So the students should not have argued that their religious or educational rights were violated, but rather simply that the physical education teacher and/or school were mistaken in presuming that headscarves were not safe for PE class.

(If, however, they did successfully argue this and the EU nevertheless upheld the expulsion on the claim that their freedom of religion was not violated, then that would be very disappointing of the ECHR indeed.)

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 04:24:59 PM EST
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that wearing "only" a headscarf is seen as a good thing only shows how bad the normal situation is for women in those countries.

Again, the ban on headscarves is not a blanket ban, it's one in State facilities. What is hard to understand about not mixing religion and State?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 03:28:01 AM EST
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Jerome a Paris: Again, the ban on headscarves is not a blanket ban, it's one in State facilities. What is hard to understand about not mixing religion and State?

to me, attending class at a public school wearing a crucifix/dastar/yarmulke/headscarf is not mixing religion and State.  do you think it is?

to me, mixing religion and state is when (1) laws and policy are either directly influenced by religion, (2) the State invokes its authority through some religious principle or claim, and/or (3) the State favors/suppresses one or more religions more than others.

i fail to see how the wearing of religiously symbolic clothing or accessories in public or "State" facilities is related to any of these three conditions.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 04:12:44 AM EST
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to me, attending class at a public school wearing a crucifix/dastar/yarmulke/headscarf is not mixing religion and State.  do you think it is?

I, for one, do think so; that is, if you mean crucifixes worn in a visible way. I want crucifixes out of Bavarian schools, too. And, for that matter, thew same with political symbols.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 07:21:52 AM EST
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The key word is being "discrete". Anything more than this risks to appear as silently making a statement promoting your own religion.

The problems in France started when clothing was in the form of veils covering the face, or even the whole body, ie, impossible to ignore and overwhelming the person's own identity.

I saw the same in Britain when a muslim woman teacher insisted that she could teach just as well while keeping completely veiled. I'm not sure how that affair ended, it even went to court, if I remember.

The issue gets bigger when religion is intimately permeating culture, and some people (like the sikhs, I think) can pretend it's not just a religious, but a cultural symbol, part of their identity.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)

by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 07:48:07 AM EST
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btw "not mixing religion with the state" goes a bit further than your three principles, the state keeping its hands clean, but also the society doing the same, in all matters where there is interraction with the state. It goes both ways.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 07:53:28 AM EST
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I agree. Headscarves relate to modesty - which is rooted in the culture, and part of that culture is religious observance. Hardly different in kind from the headscarves of the Babushka. Fifties men would not be seen without a hat. Office workers still wear a tie - what a useless symbolic accessory that is!

When our female leaders and diplomats visit a country where headscarves are worn they follow the custom out of respect - and we should do the same.

However, where any customary practices conflict with the established human and animal rights of the state into which they are imported, then the local law must stand until it is changed. But I don't see how modesty and respect infringe any rights - in fact we could probably do with a lot more of them. Immodesty is a symptom of the Anglo Disease.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 07:55:34 AM EST
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our female leaders and diplomats visit a country where headscarves are worn they follow the custom out of respect - and we should do the same.

Funny how the men from these countries still insist that women coming with them to countries that don't have such customs wear the headscarves. Why the assymetry?

Same with the Saudis that, of course, don't serve wine when in Saudi Arabia and yet are offended when wine is served at dinners they are invited to over here.

Religions call for tolerance for them but much less often allow it for others.

What if the custom is, as in France, not to tolerate any religious proselytism? Shouldn't people abide by that custom?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 08:37:23 AM EST
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People should abide by the law of where they are. They can also seek to change that law. But we are talking about clothing here.

I just don't think intolerance should be met with more intolerance. I've travelled through a lot of crazy places - not as a tourist - and most times I've found respect is reciprocated.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 08:57:19 AM EST
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But we are talking about clothing here.

Are we really? How convenient to change the topic when necessary.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:04:29 AM EST
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I was talking about headscarves, not halal butchery. Perhaps we would agree on some aspects of the culture clash - but obviously not on what I would call trivia as important as whether women should wear bras or not. It's not our decision.

Yes, you could argue that these young girls are culturally enslaved - but you could say the same of the young girls with whom they go to school.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:07:43 AM EST
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I always thought that that's a silly practice. The locals will knw that you normally don't wear a headscarf anyway. And, whyx don't visiting Western male politicians don kufiyahs?...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:10:04 AM EST
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to me, attending class at a public school wearing a crucifix/dastar/yarmulke/headscarf is not mixing religion and State.  do you think it is?

If boys and girls were required to wear the headscarf I think I might have a different view. But this isn't a religious observance issue as there is nothing in their religion that requires it. Instead it is a cultural observance signifying women's diminished status confused with and defended by a patriarchal religion which should offend any and all western people who understand that our version of civilisation is increasingly devoted to the idea of equality under secularism (however poorly we practice it)

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 08:05:49 AM EST
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Helen: But this isn't a religious observance issue as there is nothing in their religion that requires it.

Is that according to their interpretation of their religion, or is that according to your interpretation of their religion?

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 08:35:24 AM EST
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show me where the Qu'ran demands it ? It ain't there...at all.

If it's not in the qu'ran, it ain't in the religion. Islam is all about following the word of god as dicatated to Mohammed in the Qu'ran.

the idea actually came from one of the nations/tribes they conquered. Mohammed's generals, some of whom were vile misogynists, thought that the way they demanded slave girls to cover their heads was cool and suggested M should order it for all women (guess what they meant by that).

M resisted as he was pro-equality, but Aisha suggested a compromise as she was getting fed up with being pestered for being M's wife and wanted a bit of anonimity. So M's wives whould wear them, in recognition of being blessed of Mohammed (ie not because of blessed by god).

This lasted till M's death and then things started going awry.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 08:54:36 AM EST
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i completely agree with your interpretation.

but it's still our interpretation of their religion.  and it's not our prerogative to impose our interpretation of their religion on them.

there are scholars who believe that the story of Jesus and the woman taken in adultery was not part of the original gospel of john but was added centuries later by a scholar.  but even if it were conclusivelyy proven that this passage was not authentic, most devout Christians will probably not care and preserve it as part of their "religion" -- and it really won't be our place to tell them what is part of their religion or isn't.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:10:40 AM EST
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No, it's not my interpretation. It's my memory of what an islamic feminist academic wrote. Can't quote as I've lent the book to Sassafras.

The problem right now is that, against tradition, women are not accepted as imams nowadays(Aisha was an imam appointed by M.) the only people considered appropriate to intepret the qu'ran are imams. And these increasingly conservative imams see their role as re-interpreting older interpretations rather than examine the source material of the qu'ran for insight. It is no surprise therefore that custom and traditions that support the stauts quo remain unexamined.

Hence shirin Ebadi's dismantling of sharia in Iran by demonstrating that the qu'ran ran counter to much of it. This is because some of the hadiths sharia is based upon are of extremely suspect provenance and, when measured against the qu'ran, frequently are coming up short.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:22:02 AM EST
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The commentary writers of Qum stick pretty much to the text, as I understand. It is the hijacking or 'soundbiting' of commentary for political ends that is the problem, because it is illegitimate from the scholars' point of view.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:11:18 AM EST
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Everything you write about the "real story" on headscarves makes sense to me, and I am very much inclined to believe it.

But it is still an interpretation, and even though this woman is a Muslim and Islamic academic, it is possible (if unlikely) that she is wrong.  Meanwhile, other Muslim women and girls live their religion in their own way.  And if we think they are deluding themselves or are being deluded and manipulated by religious leaders, family members, and so on, then the most we can do is try to persuade them that our interpretation is the more "correct" than theirs whenever an appropriate opportunity presents itself.  But I think where we go a step too far is when we try to force them to accept our view of their religion by directly prohibiting its practice as they choose to interpret it (naturally, as long as they practice it in a way that does not violate any law -- other than the law we are discussing, of course.)

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:13:09 AM EST
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Except, maybe, when the law we are discussing prohibits this practice according to a unique, neutral, a-religious criteria, only caring about the absence of any kind of religious manifestations, impartially and equally for all religions.

In the precise case of France, a republican school teacher will want to be able to speak, not to a little muslim, or to a little catholic, but to a person whose personality is not primarily defined by her religious affiliation (hence the requirement for absolute discretion in display of such symbols).

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)

by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 08:10:34 PM EST
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I think it goes to the heart of the issue.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:00:06 PM EST
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"Men and women who are Muslims, men and women who are believers, men and women who are obedient, men and women who are truthful, men and women who are steadfast, men and women who are humble, men and women who give alms, men and women who fast, men and women who guard their private parts, men and women who remember Allah much: Allah has prepared forgiveness for them and an immense reward". (Koran, 33:35)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:01:40 AM EST
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"The men and women of the believers are friends of one another. They command what is right and forbid what is wrong, and establish prayer and pay alms, and obey Allah and His Messenger. They are the people on whom Allah will have mercy. Allah is Almighty, All-Wise". (Koran, 9:71)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:02:28 AM EST
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Why should cultural practices that go under the heading of "religion" be more or less respected than cultural practices that do not fit under it ? Would the religion of cocaine sniffing nudists get to go to school ?

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 05:33:39 PM EST
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But as soon as they are caught -- either in school or out -- sniffing cocaine or violating any "public nudity" laws that may exist in France, then they should be arrested.

Now, if wearing a headscarf was illegal everywhere in France, just as cocaine sniffing is (I presume), then of course, a pupil should be prevented from wearing a headscarf in public school -- or anywhere for that matter.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:05:34 PM EST
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Rules are much tighter in schools than general laws, for obvious reasons. That's why ruling about headscarves in schools is not the same as outlawing them out of school - for the same reason, say, a kid isn't allowed to skip school to see the Football World Cup, however passionate he might be about it. Why would religion get a tighter protection than any other human passion ?

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:10:44 PM EST
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to me, attending class at a public school wearing a crucifix/dastar/yarmulke/headscarf is not mixing religion and State.

If that crucifix/dastar/yarmulke/headscarf is so important to you, you can go to private schools that cater specifically to your requirements and, in France, follow the same courses as public schools. Why do you want to impose your religious stuff on others?


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 08:33:03 AM EST
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Jerome a Paris: If that crucifix/dastar/yarmulke/headscarf is so important to you, you can go to private schools that cater specifically to your requirements

I can also go to public schools, because I am a citizen and my family pays taxes that pay for the public schools.

Jerome a Paris: Why do you want to impose your religious stuff on others?

So you feel "imposed upon" when someone wears a crucifix/dastar/yarmulke/headscarf in your  presence.  I don't, because that's their business and it does not impinge on me what they wear.  However, I do feel uncomfortable forcing them to conform to my interpretations and judgements of their religion.

Now, if the French state determines that the headscarf is bad because of what it represents (at least as the French state interprets it), then it should ban the headscarf everywhere and not just in State facilities, the same way that the German state bans Nazi symbols everywhere.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:13:02 AM EST
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I don't, because that's their business

Well, externally worn symbols of whatever kind bear a message, and are thus NOT their business alone.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:32:46 AM EST
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I can also go to public schools, because I am a citizen and my family pays taxes that pay for the public schools.

Well, yes, if you obey the law and the rules that apply to public schools. Your taxes don't give you the right to select the rules you like and don't like. The French widely support these rules, but you certainly have a right to try to get elected to change them.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:56:30 AM EST
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Jerome a Paris: Your taxes don't give you the right to select the rules you like and don't like.

True.  And passing a law does not make it right.

Jerome a Paris: The French widely support these rules

Yes, I was surprised by this when I first talked to French friends about it back in 1991.

Jerome a Paris: but you certainly have a right to try to get elected to change them.

Good point.  It will be interesting to see if as more descendants of immigrants with different viewpoints enter French politics and media, whether this might have an influence on how laïcité is viewed and applied in French society.

In the mean time, as with any controversial issue, people who are in strong opposition to this law can write to/in the press, lobby government representatives, organize protests, and engage in civil disobedience.

I will try to write a diary on this topic as it has been exercising me for a while now, so maybe it's time for me to try and exorcise it.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:38:32 PM EST
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more descendants of immigrants with different viewpoints

I wouldn't bet on a majority of immigrant descendants being in strong opposition to this law, actually. They are not much more religious than the rest of the French population...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:44:49 PM EST
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I can also go to public schools, because I am a citizen and my family pays taxes that pay for the public schools.

A children going to a private sous contrat school is receiving as much state (and local) subsidies as one going to public school, at least in France, so that argument doesn't hold.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 05:35:45 PM EST
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linca: A children going to a private sous contrat school is receiving as much state (and local) subsidies as one going to public school, at least in France

Interesting.  So families whose children attend these private sous contrat school do not have to pay anything more than if their kids were going to public school?

linca: so that argument doesn't hold.

actually, it does. but this is where we disagree: i consider prohibiting children who wear religious clothing/accessories in class discriminatory and an infringement on their personal freedom.  we simply look at this issue differently.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:21:39 PM EST
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So families whose children attend these private sous contrat school do not have to pay anything more than if their kids were going to public school?

There's usually a small sum to pay, a hundred euro or two per trimester ; and most private schools offer free education to those with less money.
actually, it does. but this is where we disagree: i consider prohibiting children who wear religious clothing/accessories in class discriminatory and an infringement on their personal freedom

Is it an infringement on liberty to forbid wearing any headgear in school (and particularly in class), as was the rule when I was in school ? Are school uniforms infringements on freedom ? Is forbidding gang markings, as in some neighbourhoods in LA, to prevent gang wars from getting in schools, an infringement on liberty ? Is requiring sneakers for sports classes a loss of freedom ? Or do you believe there's a special category of vestimentary freedom for religious accessories, and then why ?

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:40:25 PM EST
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As was your question in your other comment about the kid who wants to watch the World Cup match.

I was not able to answer that one (though I tried), so I am going to have to think about this some more.

(I believe the answer involves clarifying the precedence of the rights of various types of "freedom" versus the right of society to maintain "public order".  In a nutshell, if rules are imposed to prevent significant risks of disturbance to "public order", then one can justify prioritizing "public order" over "personal freedom".  The debate then turns on, "What counts as posing a significant risk to public order?" and "What counts as a religion or belief that is protected as a type of protected freedom?"  I will try to think this through more and maybe write a diary about it to sort it out better.)

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 11:36:58 PM EST
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Let me add that I have something against the idea of 11-year Muslims and Catholics the same way most people would have something against 11-year-old Republicans, Gaullists and Social Democrats.It's one thing for parents to teach their culture and worldview to their children, but ultimately, they should be able to make up their own mind and choose (from choices they get to know) when they grow up. I see the (a) job of schools in enabling children to make such choices, and to learn about at least a small sample of what's on offer, not in drilling one and only ideology/religion into their minds just because their parents wish so. Thus, I go one step further than you, and I fundamentally dislike the idea of religious schools. I can live with the idea of religious (and, heh, political ideology) class, e.g. say Sunday school (or a youth group like say pioneers or boy scouts), but abhor the practice of one's entire education entrusted to people with an explicit clear worldview bias.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:21:15 AM EST
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I fundamentally dislike the idea of political schools i.e containing teachers with an explicit clear worldview bias.

But that is how the generation changeover works.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:14:31 AM EST
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I always thought the the real purpose of physical education in school was to humiliate the less physically capable (like me). Thus a humiliating ban on headscarves falls right in line with the many other humiliations one suffers at that age...
by asdf on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:01:32 PM EST
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Robbers take €80 million in Paris jewelry theft - International Herald Tribune

PARIS: Armed robbers -- some disguised as women -- snatched €85 million ($108 million) worth of diamond rings, necklaces and luxury watches from a Harry Winston boutique on a posh Paris avenue in one of the largest jewel heists in history, officials said Friday.

The gang of three or four robbers threatened about 15 employees with handguns and hit some on the head before taking the jewels from display cases from the store near the Champs-Elysées, said a police official, who was not authorized to be publicly named under agency policy.

At least two of the bandits were men wearing wigs and women's clothes, the official said. The robbers also spoke a foreign language at times and appeared to know employees' names when they robbed the store before it closed early Thursday at the height of Christmas shopping season.

The brazen theft was among the world's costliest jewel heists. Five years ago, thieves plundered 123 maximum-security vaults in Antwerp, Belgium, stealing $100 million (€78.96 million) worth of diamonds in the biggest theft in the world's diamond-cutting capital.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:21:19 PM EST
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Tony Blair is the wrong man for the Middle East | Richard Beeston - Times Online

Tony Blair has arrived back in Washington with an important message for the Obama team. The search for peace in the Middle East must be a priority for the new administration. The terrain is difficult but not impossible. The end of the Bush era offers real opportunities for this benighted region.

Mr Blair is right. He made his case before the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington articulately and passionately. He knows all the key players involved and is familiar with the issues. He seems genuinely devoted to the cause. He brings to the table his success in conflict resolution from Northern Ireland.

But Mr Blair is no longer the right man for the job. He should share the wealth of his knowledge with the incoming Obama foreign affairs chiefs and bow out gracefully.

A new era in the Middle East may or may not be about to unfold but it has a better chance of success without Mr Blair in the key role as envoy for the Quartet, the leading diplomatic group comprising America, Russia, the European Union and the United Nations.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:23:58 PM EST
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What's surprising is the idea that he arrived in Washington from the middle East, as if he's spent any useful time there.

Of course he's the wrong man for the job going forward, he was the wrong man for the job in the first place. A man who cheerled Israel's vandalising attack on Lebanon and sowing of the southern part of the country with cluster bombs isn't exactly a neutral in this arena.

they should just dismiss him with a curt boot up the backside and start afresh.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 06:36:09 AM EST
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I'd just as soon have him spend no time there.  Obama has people around him far more knowledgeable and far less compromised than Phony Tony.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 10:18:51 AM EST
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McCreevy: Irish No should be respected - EUobserver

Irish EU commissioner Charlie McCreevy has argued that the negative result of his country's referendum on Europe's Lisbon treaty should be respected, admitting that the No campaign had won the argument against "the might" of media and most politicians.

"We live in a democracy. Mr [Declan] Ganley decided that he was going to front a campaign to get the Irish people to vote No. He was singularly successful in that against the might of all the political parties in Ireland," Mr McCreevy said in an interview with "Hot Press" magazine.

People in Ireland knew why they voted No, says Charlie McCreevy

Referring to Declan Ganley, the founder of the Libertas group, which emerged before the June vote to fight against the treaty ratification in Ireland, Mr McCreevy said that Mr Ganley had won the argument "because the Irish people listened to him more than anybody else."

The outspoken commissioner, responsible for internal market affairs, also argued that Ireland's referendum results should be taken as a true indication of voters' opinion as the turnout suggested that a "considerable segment" of treaty opponents were those who had failed to vote in last year's general election.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:25:58 PM EST
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Holy hell! So the neolib EU commissioner swings behind the neolib Eurosceptic, even to the tune of declaring him solely responsible for the No vote?...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 02:19:22 PM EST
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McCreevy should have been fired from the Commission a long time ago.

McCreevy was pretty much actively campaigning against the Lisbon Treaty and I do not see why we should tolerate something like that from a Commissioner, who is after all supposed to be acting in the interests of the EU. He's also being facetious here, as well as being the hack he usually is.

The 'might' of the media and the Irish political establishment. As if these guys were overwhelming the political debate. Really. Their support was lukewarm at best, and the no campaign had a lot of resources. And what about Sinn Fein re- 'all political parties'? Is this guy vying for a spot on a Libertas list?

Aside of that, I tend to think that he's right on the main point, that the no should be respected. I think a second referendum has poor chances. Although that might change given the circumstances.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 02:22:37 PM EST
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Czech eurosceptic president "goes mad" at meeting MEPs

Today's meeting between Czech president Václav Klaus and the Conference of the Committee Chairmen of the European Parliament resulted in a sharp diplomatic skirmish.

The other czech daily mentions (it's phrased slightly differently than this one) the issue came when Cohn-Bendit asked how can Klaus meet someone like Ganley whose financing is not clear. Klaus replied that he doesn't know who finances the Greens and their activities in the European Parliament.

It also should be noted that questionable financing is what brought the cabinet headed by Klaus down back in the 90ties.

This comes after people around Klaus started to make noises about splitting from ruling civic democrats and creating Libertas.cz

by jv (euro@junkie.cz) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:44:21 PM EST
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LOL.

What are the popularity figures of this dangerous clown at the moment? Still high?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 02:20:38 PM EST
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One survey from Nov 16th mentions:

75% believes Klaus should not present his own ideas abroad disregarding the opinion of the cabinet.
50% believes Klaus hurts the image of CR
42% understands what's happening around Lisbon treaty

37% believes it should be ratified
30% is against
the rest is undecided

by jv (euro@junkie.cz) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:30:22 PM EST
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Last Sunday, there were elections in Romania. As surely covered, despite extra-low (just short of 40%) turnout, the for long diverse party landscape was cleaned up, leaving behind only the post-communist 'centre-left', the two opposed liberal formations, and minority parties. That is, all populists and far-right parties out (see Wikipedia for details).

Now, even so, ideologies don't count that much. A special feature of Romanian politics is a high frequency of parliamentarians who are ready to abandon the party that got them into parliament right after the elections. A tradition that may continue:

How fast can a newly elected parliamentarian sell out his party? - Politics - HotNews.ro

Despite the fact that parties are in the middle of critical negotiations for the forming of the future government, their members seems to be quite strange to the parties' policies and very close to making their own games. HotNews reporters randomly called seven anonymous parliamentarians, newly elected after the scrutiny on Sunday, pretending they represent a top Liberal. They found that there is a strong betrayal potential among Social Democrats.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 02:33:18 PM EST
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Quite so. The negative kind of pragmatism :)
But then that is quite a young democracy.

I remember Romania was seen by rating agencies and even FMI (if I'm not mistaken) in quite a bad shape in this economical crisis.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)

by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:43:17 PM EST
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Moldova demands Russian troops withdrawal - Regional Europe - HotNews.ro
Moldovan Foreign Minister Andrei Stratan demanded Russia on Friday to withdraw "unconditionally" all its troops from the pro-Russian separatist region of Transdniester. The call was made during the OSCE (European Organization for Cooperation and Security) meeting, AFP informs.

"the withdrawal of the Russian military forces, weaponry and ammunition must take place fully, unconditionally and transparently", said the Foreign Minister in front of his OSCE homologues.

Stratan also asked for the replacement of Russian troops, controlling the border between the self-proclaimed republic of Transdniester and Moldova, with a civilian mission.

The US chief of delegation and OSCE appreciated the Russian military presence in Moldova as a "major problem" for Europe.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 02:55:23 PM EST
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IHT: Russian Orthodox Patriarch Aleksy II dies at age 79


Patriarch Aleksy II of the Russian Orthodox Church, who presided over the restoration of his church as the largest Orthodox church in the world and a powerful influence in Russian society after decades of Soviet persecution, died on Friday at his country residence in Peredelkino, outside of Moscow. He was 79.

Last December, Aleksy II reported that the Russian Orthodox Church had more than 730 monasteries, nearly 28,000 parishes and 30,000 priests and deacons under its jurisdiction, which includes the former Soviet Union. According to a 2007 poll by the Russian Public Opinion Research Center, 75 percent of Russians identify themselves as Orthodox, although polls show less than 10 percent attend church regularly.

by blackhawk on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 02:49:12 AM EST
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75 percent of Russians identify themselves as Orthodox, although polls show less than 10 percent attend church regularly.

Surprising (at least for me) how fast the numbers are changing. in 1990 24% considered themselves Orthodox, and in 2005 62%. Majority see Orthodox church as a national tradition; Easter is celebrated by 87%, but 83% are not observing Easter fast.

by blackhawk on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 04:36:56 AM EST
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Surprising (at least for me) how fast the numbers are changing.

I'm not surprised at religion turning into a national marker (happened many timeds in many places before), but I'm, too, surprised at this speed in Russia.

Any speculations on who would succeed, and on what policy is to be expected? In particular vs. the Catholic Church and its hardliner Pope?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 07:29:04 AM EST
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Church politics are complex, and I'm not versed in the rules, but my understanding is that the temporary patriarch (by seniority) will be appointed, and then within the year the patriarch election process will involve election of the candidates. Some sources are saying that before there were precedents when there was a random selection between 2-3 of elected candidates.

Kirill, Kliment, Filaret and Juvenaly are named as candidates, with Kirill and Kliment being the favorites, and Kirill is considered to be more of a public figure and known outside the church, while Kliment is more of church burocrat. There are some (and often contradicting) expectations, but I suggest to wait and see how it all plays out; with liberals, hardliners, foreign Orthodox church and Ukrainian and Belarus churches there may be too many players to maneuver.

Catholic church, especially with hardliner (= much easier to ignore) Pope, is the least of patriarch's troubles (in Russia and Belarus): the Catholic parishes in Russia I've heard about cater to Poles, which make them more or less irrelevant.

by blackhawk on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 08:34:10 AM EST
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In recent years, the Russian Orthodox Church repeatedly protested the proselytizing activity of Catholic missionaries in Russia. In fact, that has been a reason to call off a meeting with JPII (in the latter's last years) -- reportedly, a move that was less from the Patriarch's own outrage than his consideration of the mood in the higher ranks of his church.

(The reason I know more about these Byzantine games is because a monastery in Hungary that was founded right before the Big Schism had the ambition to negotiate said meeting, and kept the line even afterward.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:27:54 AM EST
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SPECIAL FOCUS - Financial
by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:16:31 PM EST
Berlin Left Out in the Cold?: Brown's Crisis Summit to Meet Without Merkel - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

On Monday British Prime Minister Brown, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and EU Commission President Barroso are meeting for crisis talks on the economic crisis. Not on the guest list -- German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

European political and business leaders are to meet on Monday to discuss ways to revive the continent's flagging economy, but the leader of the biggest European economy won't be there.

Germany has come in for fierce criticism in some European capitals for its reluctance to adopt more aggressive measures to deal with the looming economic crisis. Now three of the biggest advocates of Europe-wide anti-recession measures are to hold crisis talks in London with European business leaders and German Chancellor Angela Merkel is not invited.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:20:51 PM EST
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Trade unions don't seem to be invited, either... LOL.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 02:40:14 PM EST
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Putin: Finance Crisis Will Cause Russia "Minimal Losses" | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 05.12.2008
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, speaking Thursday, Dec. 4 during his annual live television address to the nation, said he was confident Russia would survive the global financial crisis with minimal losses.

"Our chances are good of going through this complicated period with minimal losses both for our economy and our citizens," Putin said in the question-and-answer session.

He added that, unlike other countries, Russia will not be lowering pensions and unemployment benefits to its citizens.

While Putin was president, the broadcast became an annual tradition and helped him boost his popularity among the Russian population.

The marathon session lasted more than three hours during which Putin answered questions ranging from everyday issues to global politics, which were asked in advance via text messages, a special website and on free phone numbers.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:24:33 PM EST
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The whole interview is here.

Yes, the load is tremendous, Mr Mackevicius. No time for rest. I think we have crossed an important psychological barrier: 2.2 million communications, including 1.5 million telephone calls and just over 600,000 text messages. The rest is from the Internet.

"Our chances are good of going through this complicated period with minimal losses both for our economy and our citizens," Putin said in the question-and-answer session.

"Minimal losses" were invoked in the answer mentioning "thousand years" of Russia's history and time in 90ies when pro-Western thugs were running the country, so in this context "minimal losses" can be taken liberally.

In the same interview he mentions the plans to cut 2009  foreign migrant worker quota 50% from 3.9 mln people, so the government does not seem to think that unemployment is going to be really high.

by blackhawk on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 05:09:59 AM EST
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I don't understand your last argument. A migrant worker quote may be interpreted as an attempt to keep a shrinking number of available jobs for citizens, or as a symptom of a fall in the number of available jobs itself, I don't see how it can be interpreted as an expectation that joblessness will stay down.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 07:34:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]

50% reduction is too low if government expects high unemployment; even with the reduction, government still seems to expect that ~2 mln extra jobs are going to be available.
by blackhawk on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 07:58:32 AM EST
[ Parent ]
50% reduction is too low if government expects high unemployment

Russia's labour force is around 75 million. I would consider a 2.7% change in employment as significant.

~2 mln extra jobs

Migrant workers usually do NOT take "extra" jobs, but jobs in fields where there is a shortage of domestic workers. For that reason, high uemployment and high numbers of migrant workers can exist in parallel without having to do with each other.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 09:07:00 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Car parts producer Dräxlmaier temporarily halts production at five factories in Romania - Business - HotNews.ro
German car parts producer Dräxlmaier announced that it will prolong the holidays for the employees for all its five factories in Romania, in order to avoid building further stocks. Two factories will halt production for a month, while the others - for some three weeks. The company employs some 15,000 people in Romania.

There is a larger trend here. Romania, like Slovakia, applied the big weapon in the race to the bottom to attract foreign investors: the flat tax. In Romania, like Slovakia, the arriving investors were in no small part car manufacturers. Which are hit hardest by the current phase of the global financial crisis.

I note that shortly before the crisis hit, just Dräxlmeier and Romania were an example of how soon you'll be overtaken in the race to the bottom: Dräxlmeier's newest factory was opened in Serbia this spring. For that reason, the number of employees in Romania Talready fell from 18,500 to 15,000 before the crisis.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 02:53:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Placing foxes in charge of the local hen house is a bad idea ... for the chickens, but employ them as imperial advisors is ... well ... likely to upset global chickenry.

Investors accuse Citi execs of "suspicious" trades

NEW YORK (Reuters) - An investor lawsuit contends that Citigroup Inc insiders, including senior counselor and former U.S. Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, sold more than $150 million of their own shares at inflated prices while concealing the bank's true financial health.

The allegations were made in a nearly 500-page court complaint filed by shareholders who are suing the bank for fraud related to its disclosures over mortgage-linked securities. The complaint was filed late Monday in U.S. District Court in Manhattan.

by Loefing on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 04:03:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]
We must stop the lawyers from Ruining The Economy.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:52:05 PM EST
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WORLD
by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:17:16 PM EST
Mumbai attacks: First evidence of home-grown terror link , bombay india - Telegraph
The first evidence of a home-grown terrorist link to the Mumbai attacks emerged today as police revealed an Indian suspect arrested earlier this year may have been involved in the planning.

Officers said they had maps seized from a man picked up in February suggesting intelligence gathering had begun more than a year ago.

Police apparently failed to recognise the importance of the nine maps, which included detailed floor plans of the Taj Mahal Palace hotel and marked the position of Mumbai's main railway terminus, after arresting Faheem Ansari.

Both locations were targeted by gunmen last week, alongside a hotel complex, a restaurant and a Jewish resident.

Ansari, who was born in India, has been accused of joining the terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) after emigrating to Dubai five years ago.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:19:27 PM EST
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U.S. jobless rate soars to 6.7% in November - International Herald Tribune

With the economy deteriorating rapidly, the nation's employers shed 533,000 jobs in November, the 11th consecutive monthly decline, the government reported Friday morning, and the unemployment rate rose to 6.7 percent.

The decline, the largest one-month loss since December 1974, was fresh evidence that the economic contraction accelerated in November, promising to make the current recession, already 12 months old, the longest since the Great Depression. The previous record was 16 months, in the severe recessions of the mid-1970s and early 1980s.

The alarming job decline suggests that consumers and businesses have pulled back sharply on spending in response to the worsening credit crisis. That has put pressure on Congress and the White House to come up with a stimulus package that would substitute for the missing private-sector outlays.

Over all, the losses since January now total more than 1.9 million, with most coming in the last three months.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:21:35 PM EST
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that the current recession had no end as they are used to seeing?  My gut tells me that the job losses have just begun.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:44:06 PM EST
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All day long, the news was that the reports on jobless numbers were expected to be worse than bad...like they could  be anything else. The European stock markets held at about 2% down all day, then when the numbers came out, suddenly France went down by 5%+...perhaps that was coupled with the Chinese threat of pulling orders in retribution of a Dali Lama visit...

The numbers were extraordinarily bad, but they seem twisted, so at the risk of someone thinking that I am ranting...

Employers ax 533,000 jobs in Nov., most in 34 years; unemployment rate rises to 6.7 percent

Employers cut 533K jobs in Nov., most in 34 years
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Skittish employers slashed 533,000 jobs in November, the most in 34 years, catapulting the unemployment rate to 6.7 percent, dramatic proof the country is careening deeper into recession.
<blah blah blah blah blah blah snip snip snip from the article>

The unemployment rate would have moved even higher if not for the exodus of 422,000 people from the work force. Economists thought many of those people probably abandoned their job searches out of sheer frustration. [blah blah blah blah blah blah snip snip snip from the article]

Yeah; Right. Riddle me this Batman. How exactly does someone exodus the workforce? ...and is that 422,000 that did this exodus, was that just the number for November?...is there more people who abandoned their searches in October and September?

Since the start of the recession, the economy has lost 1.9 million jobs, the number of unemployed peoplae increased by 2.7 million and the jobless rate rose by 1.7 percentage points.

President-elect Barack Obama <blah blah blah blah blah blah snip snip snip from the article>

To provide relief, the Bush administration will <blah blah blah blah blah blah snip snip snip from the article>

The loss of 533,000 payroll jobs was much deeper than the 320,000 job cuts economists were forecasting. The rise in the unemployment rate, however, wasn't as steep as the 6.8 percent rate they were expecting. [blah blah blah blah blah blah snip snip snip from the article]

All told, 10.3 million people were left unemployed as of November, while the number of employed was 144.3 million.

When I think of a ratio of 1 to 14, I think 7%, plus a little more. Yet, somehow the person writing this article doesn't get an alarm when they write that the unemployment rate is 6.7% And they don't yell "Bullshit" in a crowded fire when there are 442,000 people left out of the numbers just because of exodus.

Job losses in September and October also turned out to be much worse. Employers cut 403,000 jobs in September, versus 284,000 previously estimated. Another 320,000 were chopped in October, compared with an initial estimate of 240,000. [blah blah blah blah blah blah snip snip snip from the article]

That's an estimate of 524,000 which turned out to really be 723,000. I sure hope I can get a job where I can be off by 1/3 and still get paid. This month's estimate is 533,0000 - plus the acknowledged exodused 422,000...that's 955,000...is this number too low by a 1/3rd as well?

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:45:08 PM EST
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These numbers don't make it to the MSM.  And the consequences don't make it to the MSM.  Street riots are exciting and people will watch them; would sell advertising.

Wonder how long it will take people to figure this out.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:50:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That's an estimate of 524,000 which turned out to really be 723,000. I sure hope I can get a job where I can be off by 1/3 and still get paid.

Actually, it's probably explained by quite a few employers simply not responding to the survey initially.  The first set of numbers they release are just preliminary (reporters, being morons, generally don't mention that).

Granted, this was a pretty big revision, but it happens.

Also, sometimes things get revised quite a bit after (say) a few new people come in on a hiring wave and just screw up.  Or large employers will report incorrectly, adding/subtracting an extra zero or two, or something like that.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 06:52:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Supporting my position stated here previously that the report should be of employed persons, not unemployed. There are too many reasons for not working that may or may not fall into the category "unemployed." It's simpler to just count people who are working...
by asdf on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:04:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
have long been discussed and debunked on ET.

See Soundbite Statistics: the Unemployment Rate (1) (which includes a list of earlier diaries) and Where the jobless go, both by afew

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 08:43:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Israeli forces drag illegal settlers from Hebron house - Middle East, World - The Independent

Furious Jewish settlers went on a violent rampage last night after security forces unexpectedly stormed and evacuated a house the settlers had commandeered in the West Bank city of Hebron.

Fire officers said that three Palestinian houses and nine cars were alight, while the Israeli human rights organisation Btselem released a video apparently showing a settler shooting and wounding a Palestinian at close range and other Palestinians retaliating by pelting the gunman with stones.

The protests - and others mounted with sporadic violence elsewhere in the West Bank - came after 100 border police with visors and riot shields used clubs and tear gas to drag out the dozens of settlers, some kicking and throwing stones, who had been in the building at the time.

As night fell, angry youths - some masked - stoned an isolated Palestinian house in an orchard below the evacuated building, which was lit up by fires started by protesting settlers who set alight the family's laundry and some of the orchard's olive trees.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:21:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Fidel Castro offers to talk to Barack Obama - Times Online

Fidel Castro, the former President of Cuba, has offered to talk to Barack Obama, in Havana's latest overture to the US President elect.

"With Obama, talks could happen anywhere he wants," the former head of the Communist regime wrote in the latest of a series of columns he has published in state-run media since falling ill in 2006.

His remarks follow an offer from his brother, President Raul Castro, to meet Mr Obama "on neutral ground" to try to end the 40 year long conflict between the two countries.

If taken up it would be the first meeting in half a century between the leaders of Cuba and the US. The head of the Communist regime and a US president have not come face to face since the island's revolution in 1959.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:22:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Canadian leader provokes anger by closing Parliament - International Herald Tribune

OTTAWA: Canada's parliamentary opposition reacted with outrage after Prime Minister Stephen Harper shut down the Legislature until Jan. 26, seeking to forestall a no-confidence vote that he was sure to lose and that might have provoked a constitutional crisis.

Harper acted Thursday after getting the approval of Governor General Michaëlle Jean, who represents Queen Elizabeth as the nation's head of state. If his request had been rejected, he would have had to choose between stepping down or facing the no-confidence vote on Monday.

The opposition fiercely criticized the decision to suspend Parliament, accusing Harper of undermining the nation's democracy.

"We have to say to Canadians, is this the kind of government you want?" said Bob Rae, a member of the opposition Liberal Party. "Do we want a party in place that is so undemocratic that it will not meet the House of Commons?"

That sentiment was echoed by constitutional scholars, who lamented that the governor general might have created a mechanism that future prime ministers could use to bypass the legislature when it seemed convenient.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:22:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Israel extensively criticised by Middle East delegates at forum | WORLD | NEWS | tvnz.co.nz

Israel drew fire regarding its human rights record at a United Nations forum where its neighbours accused it of committing systematic violations against Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.

Delegations from Syria, Egypt and Iran raised concerns about Israel's security wall, its detentions of young Palestinians, and what they called "illegal" Jewish settlements during the regular review by the UN Human Rights Council.

Western countries, including Australia, Britain, Canada, France and Germany, urged Israel to lift its blockade on the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip which they said had led to a worsening humanitarian situation.

Palestinian ambassador to the UN in Geneva, Ibrahim Mohammad Khraisi, called for an end to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory, removal of the blockade on Gaza, and a halt to what he called "collective punishment" of Palestinians.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:23:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Amid Hebron tensions, U.S. tells nationals: Keep out of Jerusalem | Ha'aretz | 5.12.08
U.S. citizens and staff workers at its embassy in Tel Aviv received an advisory on Friday to avoid traveling to Jerusalem in the wake of Thursday's evacuation of a Jewish squatters from a disputed house in the West Bank town of Hebron.

The government is also advising Americans to refrain from driving on the main highway connecting Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, Highway 1, due to heavy traffic delays and "ongoing police activity."

"Heavy traffic delays"? Since when has the State Department been responsible for issuing traffic alerts?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 06:07:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
SouthCoastToday.com | Frank envisions post-election stimulus from Democrats:

NEW BEDFORD -- After the November election, Democrats will push for a second economic stimulus package that includes money for the states' stalled infrastructure projects, along with help paying for healthcare expenses, food stamps and extended unemployment benefits, U.S. Rep. Barney Frank said Thursday.

In a meeting with the editorial board of The Standard-Times, Rep. Frank, D-Mass., also called for a 25 percent cut in military spending, saying the Pentagon has to start choosing from its many weapons programs, and that upper-income taxpayers are going to see an increase in what they are asked to pay.

The military cuts also mean getting out of Iraq sooner, he said.

"The people of Iraq want us out, and we want to stay over their objection," he said. "It's extraordinary." The Maliki government in Iraq "can't sell (the withdrawal deal with the U.S.) because it sounds like we're going to stay too long."

"I was teasing (U.S. Rep.) Jack Murtha (a key supporter of military budgets) and I said to him, 'For the first time, somebody else has got a bill that's almost as big as yours.' We don't need all these fancy new weapons. I think there needs to be additional review."

Not a big fan of Barney Frank, but I do like the sound of that.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 09:46:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Actually, per Chris Bowers over at the Orange place, Obama's proposed defense cuts of the same things probably amount to 25% or greater.

I was laughing at ol' Barney when he suggested it, but maybe they'll actually do it.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 09:58:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Frank envisions post-election stimulus from Democrats | SouthCoastToday.com
Rep. Frank, D-Mass., also called for a 25 percent cut in military spending, saying the Pentagon has to start choosing from its many weapons programs

Robert Gates' essay in Foreign Affairs may have some bearing on this:

Foreign Affairs - A Balanced Strategy - Robert M. Gates

When it comes to procurement, for the better part of five decades, the trend has gone toward lower numbers as technology gains have made each system more capable. In recent years, these platforms have grown ever more baroque, have become ever more costly, are taking longer to build, and are being fielded in ever-dwindling quantities. Given that resources are not unlimited, the dynamic of exchanging numbers for capability is perhaps reaching a point of diminishing returns. A given ship or aircraft, no matter how capable or well equipped, can be in only one place at one time.

For decades, meanwhile, the prevailing view has been that weapons and units designed for the so-called high end could also be used for the low end. And to some extent that has been true: Strategic bombers designed to obliterate cities have been used as close air support for riflemen on horseback. M-1 tanks originally designed to plug the Fulda Gap during a Soviet attack on Western Europe routed Iraqi insurgents in Fallujah and Najaf. Billion-dollar ships are employed to track pirates and deliver humanitarian aid. And the U.S. Army is spinning out parts of the Future Combat Systems program, as they move from the drawing board to reality, so that they can be available and usable for troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Nevertheless, given the types of situations the United States is likely to face -- and given, for example, the struggles to field up-armored Humvees, Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles (MRAPs), and intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) programs in Iraq -- the time has come to consider whether the specialized, often relatively low-tech equipment well suited for stability and counterinsurgency missions is also needed. It is time to think hard about how to institutionalize the procurement of such capabilities and get them fielded quickly. Why was it necessary to go outside the normal bureaucratic process to develop technologies to counter improvised explosive devices, to build MRAPs, and to quickly expand the United States' ISR capability? In short, why was it necessary to bypass existing institutions and procedures to get the capabilities needed to protect U.S. troops and fight ongoing wars?

The Department of Defense's conventional modernization programs seek a 99 percent solution over a period of years. Stability and counterinsurgency missions require 75 percent solutions over a period of months. The challenge is whether these two different paradigms can be made to coexist in the U.S. military's mindset and bureaucracy.

The Defense Department has to consider whether in situations in which the United States has total air dominance, it makes sense to employ lower-cost, lower-tech aircraft that can be employed in large quantities and used by U.S. partners. This is already happening now in the field with Task Force ODIN in Iraq, which has mated advanced sensors with turboprop aircraft to produce a massive increase in the amount of surveillance and reconnaissance coverage. The issue then becomes how to build this kind of innovative thinking and flexibility into the rigid procurement processes at home. The key is to make sure that the strategy and risk assessment drive the procurement, rather than the other way around.



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 11:15:30 PM EST
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Reuters | White House, Democrats reach deal on $15 billion auto aid:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic leaders and the White House reached a deal to provide billions of dollars in relief to the ailing U.S. auto industry, a senior congressional aide told Reuters on Friday.

The package, which Democratic leaders hope to win passage of next week and send to President George W. Bush, totals between $15 billion and $17 billion, the aide said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The amount is far less than the $34 billion requested this week by General Motors, Ford Motor, and Chrysler, but Democratic leaders believe the money will keep them going until Barack Obama replaces Bush as president on January 20 and a new effort can be made for a rescue plan.

So the automakers get enough to make it to Inauguration Day.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:37:08 PM EST
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"Mumbai after-shocks rattle Pakistan" by Syed Saleem Shahzad | Asia Times Online
... An almost perfect plan

The Mumbai attack relied on local al-Qaeda-linked militants (Indian Mujahideen) such as Abdus Subhan Qureshi (Tauqir).

... Abdus Subhan had planned other attacks on Indian strategic targets immediately after the Mumbai attack, but [21-year-old terrorist Ajmal Amir] Kasab's arrest prevented this through his revelations of his LET background.

Washington appears to accept that the Mumbai attack was not carried out at the behest of Islamabad or the Pakistan army, or even by the ISI's high command. But there is now proof of the involvement of the LET and of some junior ISI officials. It is on this point that the US will apply pressure on Islamabad: it must curtail such militants.

But there is a problem.

Militants tighten their grip

... In the past four days, militants have abducted a record 60 people from the provincial capital Peshawar, most of them retired army officers and members or relatives of the Awami National Party (ANP), which rules in the province. ...

Meanwhile, North Atlantic Treaty Organization supply convoys passing through Khyber Agency en route to Afghanistan have come under increasing attacks. ...

In this anarchic situation, the Jamaatut Dawa (LET), with its well-defined vertical command structure under the single command of Saeed, could commit its several thousand members, virtually a para-military force, to the cause of the anti-state al-Qaeda-linked Pakistani militants.

... To date, the authorities have not given any indication of their plans. If they do indeed resist the overtures of Mullen and Rice, it is most likely that the Pakistani armed forces will withdraw from the Swat Valley and Bajaur Agency, leaving that area open for the Taliban-led insurgency n Afghanistan. Militants can also be expected to launch further attacks on India, with dire consequences for whole South Asia region.

Yet the alternative of cracking down on the LET is equally unappealing, and potentially as disastrous.



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 11:02:18 PM EST
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Jim Kunstler again, with his usual dark but wise  visions
I hate to keep harping on this -- but since nobody else is really talking about it, at least in the organs of public discussion, the job is left to me -- we have to get cracking on the revival of the railroad system in this country, if we expect to remain a united country. This is such a no-brainer that the absence of any talk about it is a prime symptom of the zombie disease that has eaten away our brains. Automobiles (the way we use them) and airplanes are utterly dependent on liquid hydrocarbon fuels, and you can be certain we'll have trouble getting them. You can run trains by other means -- electricity being state-of-the-art in those parts of the world that do it most successfully. I know that California just voted to create a high-speed rail link between Los Angeles and San Francisco. It's an optimistic sign, but it shows more than a little techno-grandiose over-reach. High speed rail would require a mega-expensive re-do of the tracks. We need to scale our ambitions for this more realistically. California (and every other region of America) would benefit much more from normal-speed trains running every hour on the hour on tracks that already exist than from a mega-expensive, grandiose sci-fi program that might not get built for ten years. The dregs of the Big Three automakers can and should be reorganized to produce the rolling stock for a revived railroad system.

I also will keep harping on this till it either becomes moot by a return to cave dwelling with semi-extinct animal power, or there is some real public discussion of the best way to begin.

GM's logo should be on rail cars. They always did go in for the heavy iron.

Interesting bit, the "united country" thing.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 01:22:56 AM EST
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Their new corvette should be a rail car. They wouldn't even have to change the handling.

Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 01:33:08 AM EST
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from the BradBlog today-
Now Would Be a Good Time for Congress to Ask the Automaker Why They Killed Their Perfectly Good and Much-Beloved All-Electric Car in 1999...

I haven't been able to watch all of the Capitol Hill hearings with the Big 3 automaker CEOs, but caught a fair portion. I've yet to hear anybody ask GM CEO Rick Wagoner why the hell his company killed their perfectly good, and rather popular, fully electric car which was introduced in CA in 1996.

The EV1 was much beloved by its owners (leasers, actually, since they were not allowed to buy them). There were waiting lists to be able to get one, before finally, three years later, with little or no explanation, GM announced they would not be renewing any of the leases on those cars and those who used them would have no recourse but to give them back.

Customers were outraged, heartbroken even. Many had tried to buy them outright --- and even sign contracts that they'd not hold GM accountable for any future problems or repairs --- but they were all turned down. One the devoted customers learned the fate of the cars --- and discovered, by helicopter, that they were all being rounded up in the desert --- they took up a round-the-clock, 24/7 vigil in an effort to block what GM had planned for them.

Incredibly, not only had GM taken back the cars, they were actually sending them, in perfectly good working order, to be shredded --- literally shredded --- as the EV1 supporters were threatened with arrest if they didn't allow the perfectly usable, and almost brand new cars to be taken out by trucks to be completely destroyed.

Why? That was never really made clear, at least not in the excellent 2006 documentary Who Killed the Electric Car? which detailed the entire heartbreaking tale of the cars which ran quickly and quietly, and without a drop of gasoline.



Capitalism searches out the darkest corners of human potential, and mainlines them.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 03:35:45 AM EST
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THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER
by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:17:40 PM EST
Tangible Sound: A Table of Light, Playing Music of the Future - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

Scientists in Barcelona have created a new musical instrument that will produce remarkable sounds, even for an untrained novice. But the 'Reactable' is more than a digital synthesizer. It might also point to a new way of using computers.

Rarely have men been seen playing with blocks with such devout intensity. Four stand around a circular table, placing colorful disks and cubes onto the surface, occasionally moving, rotating or plucking them off again.

Each of these seemingly minor changes produces an effect -- noise ranging from gurgles, taps or booming to a loud drumbeat. When the objects on the table are moved a new and unexpected sound results. Suddenly there's a buzzing, followed by a heavy stomping bass. The sky-blue glow of the tabletop reflects in the faces of these peculiar musicians.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:20:23 PM EST
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Large Hadron Collider to get helium leak warning system after breakdown - Times Online

The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is to have an early warning system installed to guard against a repeat of the catastrophic fault that caused the world's largest atom-smasher to break down just days after it was switched on in September.

CERN, the European particle physics laboratory near Geneva, is to fit the accelerator with 100 miles (160km) of cables and 2,000 crates of electronic monitors, so that engineers will be alerted to potentially hazardous abnormalities before they can cause serious damage.

The £4 billion "Big Bang machine", which was switched on to global acclaim on September 10, was shut down just nine days later, after a huge helium leak caused extensive damage to many of its magnets.

The accelerator was then mothballed for repairs until next May or June, and its first experiments to investigate the fundamental nature of the Universe are not now scheduled to begin until July 2009 at the earliest.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:22:12 PM EST
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This is wrong, I don't know where these people got their info. The fault was not caused by leaking helium, rather a faulty electrical connection created an arc to ground (with many thousands of ampere currents), which punctured the cryogenics vessels holding superfluid helium. The helium then expanded very rapidly, and the pressure caused some more damage. A helium leak warning system would not have prevented anything. (This at least is my understanding of things. And there is nothing on the CERN press release page that would tend to contradict it.) This is the last press release put out:
CERN Press Release
The initial malfunction was caused by a faulty electrical connection between two of the accelerator's magnets. This resulted in mechanical damage and release of helium from the magnet cold mass into the tunnel.
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 04:57:27 PM EST
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It would at least have the possibility of preventing the physicists from talking in those squeaky little Mickey Mouse voices.
by asdf on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:06:03 PM EST
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KLATSCH
by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:17:59 PM EST
European Commission coffee machines proved poisonous - EUobserver

EU commissioners and their staff will have to stand in line at the coffee shop again, after 20 state-of-the-art espresso machines installed in January for their exclusive use proved to brew contaminated coffee.

Tests have confirmed that the levels of nickel and lead in 17 of the machines were above the allowable threshold, Dennis Abbott, a spokesman for the commission said.

Commissioners were told not to drink coffee from the expensive espresso machines in the Berlaymont building.

"We can't switch these machines on if we have these concerns," he added.

The commission's tests were run after one archivist working in the upper levels of the commission's headquarters found that the coffee tasted odd and sent a sample to a lab in his home country, Austria, International Herald Tribune reported.

Mr Alexander Just's findings proved that the levels of heavy metals in the coffee were a danger to the health of EU officials, at more than 17,000 percent above the legal threshold for nickel and over 16 percent for lead.

by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:19:51 PM EST
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Looks like the other gnomes have left the nest. I still have to prepare some work for tomorrow, thus the rest of the Salon is DIY. :-)
by Fran on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:32:53 PM EST
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So, um, what's the small business action in your corners of the world? Do the petites lobby your government treasuries with half or more of the zeal as those in the US?

DemocracyNow! headlines were just saddening this morning.

Back in the United States, President-elect Barack Obama is coming under criticism for apparently backtracking on a campaign promise for a windfall tax on oil company profits. The American Small Business League says the Obama campaign has deleted the windfall tax proposal from its transition website. An Obama aide said the windfall tax proposal was only introduced when oil was above eighty dollars a barrel.

Now, I'd never heard of this group. The Chamber of Commerce does tend to suck all the oxygen out of MSM attention to American ingenuity. Plus I never read HuffPo, so Lloyd Chapman is a stranger to me. Oh snap...

Since 2003, over a dozen federal investigations have found that billions of dollars in federal small business contracts have been diverted to Fortune 500 firms, their subsidiaries and other clearly large firms in the United States and even Europe. The story has been covered by nearly every major newspaper in the nation, over a hundred radio stations, and by ABC, CBS and CNN.  

Some of the firms that have been exposed as recipients of federal small business contracts include Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, General Dynamics, Hewlett-Packard, Dell Computers [hee hee], Rolls-Royce, Home Depot, Xerox, John Deere and British Aerospace (BAE).

Report 5-16 from the Small Business Administration Office of Inspector General (SBA OIG) found that large businesses had received government small business contracts through, "vendor deception" and "false certifications". (http://www.sba.gov/IG/05-16.pdf)

Have they got their work cut out.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 09:19:57 PM EST
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"When the barbarians appear on the frontiers of a civilization it is a sign of crisis in that civilization. If the barbarians come, not with weapons of war but with the songs and ikons of peace, it is a sign that the crisis is one of a spiritual nature".

...From Lawrence Lipton's book 'The Holy Barbarians' that recorded the Beat zeitgeist in California in the later Fifties. Reading it changed my direction at a formative time of life. Lipton is the father of James Lipton -who does those informative TV interviews with actors.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Dec 6th, 2008 at 08:49:36 AM EST
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