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by afew Tue Dec 9th, 2008 at 09:52:44 AM EST
We have a farmer coming from the Alsace, twice a week and she makes the Sauerkraut herself with not additions, except for the salt - the best you can get.
However, I eat it as salad raw. A while ago I found to my amazement that it goes well with a little olive oil and I add different things, like tomatoes, pinaples, oranges, apples what ever is in the fridge. It is amazingly versatile.
If you eat that kind of thing.
This guy doesn't seem to have even been a worthy adversary for Fitz. Taking bribes to fill Obama's Senate seat is pretty arrogant, even by the political standards of Illinois. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
Now who looks stupid... Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
Q. What is the definition of a WASP? A. Someone who gets out of the shower to take a leak.
Q: How can you tell if a WASP is sexually excited? A: The stiff upper lip.
In other words, a character right out of a ["]Polish joke"- he even has the name.
That is, he seems to have acted like a character in a Polish joke (which doesn't entail approval of such jokes or that one subscribes to the idea that Poles are stupid) and as it happens his name even sounds like a Polish name (whether it is or not).
Cf.:
Use-mention distinction ... In written language, mentioned words or phrases often appear between quotation marks ("Chicago" contains three vowels) ... Used words or phrases (much more common than mentioned ones) do not bear any typographic distinction. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use%E2%80%93mention_distinction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use%E2%80%93mention_distinction
It's not "insensitive" on LEP's part, while, arguably, you are being over-sensitive. Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
But what the hell do I know? I just live here. You all obviously are the experts. Blago is a quintessential dumb Pole and Ryan is a poor martyr, is that it? I love that when it comes to discussions of things everyone else knows a lot about, there are high intellectual standards and people have to actually prove their case when making ridiculous assertions, but when it comes to anything I might know about, if I oppose your comments based on ignorance or conspiracy theory I am just being over-sensitive! Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
You all obviously are the experts.
Wait, I didn't say anything at all along those lines. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
See, told y'all: With adult supervision and not being allowed to act on his own free will, little Rahm can do some good. ;) Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
And since when do we disallow speculation, especially when clearly stated as such? If you have some actual information you can, you know, supply it. Without getting your panties in a bunch, even.
Same movie, never changes.
(Here comes the response. Let's watch!) They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
Nothing more. They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
(Here comes the response. Let's watch!)
"trollish", i.e. disruptive of dialogue, or grossly insulting, or really inappropriate.
If it's merely "fishing for a response" I suppose many entirely appropriate comments, merely intended to promote discussion, would be "trolling". Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response
Twank's comment was content-free except for provoking poemless. Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
The wikipedia definition, as quoted, is no better - far too general; there's nothing wrong with provoking emotional responses - like being astonished, for example - as I am that what I said could possibly "infuriate" anybody :-) Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
Were I to do so, someone else would probably alter the fruit of all my labour - life's too short :-)
But I would not try to do so, as it is far easier to see what is wrong with attempted definitions of such terms, than provide an adequate general definition. This is because they have been developed by various people in different contexts with somewhat different views. Cf.
The phrase was originally coined as "Trolling for flames", where the posters intention was to incite a "flame war", the Usenet intellectual equivalent of a bar fight.
But it can vary, some variants being quite harmless, others not:
Many trolls are just practical jokers attempting to amuse themselves and their audience. Some have genuine animosity toward a particular group or individual that they believe has done them wrong. Some are just loathsome, contemptible hooligans bent on disrupting the ordinarily peaceful exchange of useful information for their own perverted pleasure. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.troll/msg/bc2e71e19c590d8e
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.troll/msg/bc2e71e19c590d8e
Twank went to close to turning a minor tiff into a major blowup with a needlessly provocative comment (capped with the joke about medication) and I drew the line, end of story. Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
Twank's comment was content-free except for provoking poemless.
Actually I don't agree, the content is clear; he's claiming that she tends to over-react quite often. In my view that's true, which is why I said she has a short fuse (cf. someone's comment). Once she got upset with Sven - of all people ! - who was politely puzzled about how he could possibly have given offense.
Twank's prediction about her response could be seen as a way of dissuading her from doing so, rather than provoking her. If she did respond he could claim to be vindicated, while if she didn't, he could claim to have made her reconsider her pattern of behaviour. Perhaps we should applaud rather than condemn :-) Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
(Here comes the response. Let's watch!) Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
Seriously - that's not cool. Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
Did I mention this whole thread is an example of why I haven't been around ET much, lately? Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
Which means that Ted's statement that Twank's comment is a-okay is not subject to empirical refutation based on your reaction or lack thereof. Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
Did I mention this whole thread is an example of why I haven't been around ET much, lately?
Oh come on - what has been SO terrible about it? We've had an interesting discussion of the nature of trolling :-) What's the big deal? Poemless isn't upset - she's been very "sane" about it :-)
I don't need mood medication - apart from the occasional glass of something alcoholic - and then fortunately it's a want rather than a need.
By the way - I realise being a FPer is a thankless task - but don't take it too seriously - or the trolls will be after you :-) Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
LOL! Of all the people, too... LOL! Ok, that was funny. You get funny point for that. Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
I ended up in one of the most expensive (but interesting) pubs in london drinking a 10% strength beer, consequently I have a persistent fog in my head today.
Not helped by my Mum breaking her foot last night so I had to take her to hospital to get it checked. she's now got her feet up, but I doubt it'll last. My mother doesn't do sitting down doing nothing. keep to the Fen Causeway
HOLY F. Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
But I'm not sure about the insanity part. The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
In a conversation with Harris on November 11, the charges state, Blagojevich said he knew that President-elect Obama wanted [Valerie Jarrett] for the open seat but "they're not willing to give me anything except appreciation. Fuck them."
From via The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
To be fair, it really shouldn't be a Ford in the picture, since Ford seems to have been much better behaved than GM or Chrysler. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
The US auto industry ... symptomatic of most of America. They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
When all's said and done, it seems turnout in November will have been about 132m, or roughly ten million more than four years ago. Obama will come in at about 70m to McCain's 60m, a seven- to seven-and-a-half-point margin.
Maybe Professor Curtis Gans at American University, who loudly proclaimed turnout didn't see the big jump many of us predicted, should shut his whore mouth and learn to count. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
Why MSNBC's Chief Villager, David Gregory, is being given the Meet the Press chair instead of Chuck, I'll never know. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
They should ax that pinhead Scarborough and put Chuck in his place; only time I watched that show (3 AM my time) was when Chuck subbed in, but they have to get rid of that dippy broad. Totally brainless. They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
*Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
anyone else know what this is? "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
And when i press preview, i see it again. "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
Shit, you asked me for some photos of this a year ago, and here one finally is, and phssht. "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
I suggest you get a Photobucket.com account and upload pictures there. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
When your friends and family visit your MobileMe Gallery, they're in for a show. Just upload photos from your computer or iPhone to your Gallery, and invite people to visit, download their favorites, and even contribute their own. With beautiful animated views, everyone will see your photos come to life.
I retract that... *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
Could this one be too big? "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
Photobucket is ugly, but it's free and it doesn't seem to let people down.
I guess I am seeing two photos of the Müngstener Brücke, and one of the Bremen Hbf from a high vantage point! *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
But how can you post the photos and i can't? (Hey, post one of Anya.) "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
That is so strange. Does that also mean you can find my medotcom email account? (Which you should have.) "Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
However, there is a curious behaviour at your gallery: sometimes if I choose an image, the image immediately goes black and is replaced by an exclamation mark -- THEN, the image link is nonsenical like in your attempts upthread. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
Wait, I can estimate it based on train length (185.3 m). Passage time is 8.9-9 seconds, so 74-75 km/h -- my guess was rather good! *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
Such arrogance richly deserves a massively heavy handed governmental response. I doubt it will be forthcoming. A friend of mine, (out of respect for poemless I will not specify his nominal national affiliation,) once threatened a Sacramento based company that if they didn't fix a problem their equipment had caused he would fly up to Sacramento, rent a car, go to their parking lot and slash all of the tires! Would that someone would so react to this sort of presumptive arrogance. "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
Such arrogance richly deserves a massively heavy handed governmental response.
$250bn, no questions asked?
I spent last evening (blissfully ignorant of what would happen at 6 this morning) with one of our State Representatives, Julie Hamos. Among other things, she has been the most vocal advocate for public transportation in our state legislature. As you can imagine, there are many many seats at all levels of government in IL about to open up, as a result of Obama winning and taking half the town with him, and the shake up at the State Capital. She's planning a run for a higher office, but I won't say what since she's not officially announced.
Anyway, here's why you care: Her plan for funding the overhauling of our transportation system? GAS TAX. She said that, and there was a momentary silence in the room, and I began clapping, and so everyone else began clapping. She said if she'd proposed such a thing a year ago, people would have laughed, but right now we just might be able to pull something like it off. I thought of Jerome and the heat he gets on DKos for proposing a gas tax. Well, there are actually elected officials here on the ground embracing the idea now. It took some guts for her to put that out there. I was really impressed. Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
Kudos to you! Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
clap like a man eh?
would that involve furry palms? 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
George Monbiot: Cyberspace has buried its head in a cesspit of climate change gibberish | Comment is free | The Guardian
In his fascinating book Carbon Detox, George Marshall argues that people are not persuaded by information. Our views are formed by the views of the people with whom we mix. Of the narratives that might penetrate these circles, we are more likely to listen to those that offer us some reward. A story that tells us that the world is cooking and that we'll have to make sacrifices for the sake of future generations is less likely to be accepted than the more rewarding idea that climate change is a conspiracy hatched by scheming governments and venal scientists, and that strong, independent-minded people should unite to defend their freedoms. He proposes that instead of arguing for sacrifice, environmentalists should show where the rewards might lie: that understanding what the science is saying and planning accordingly is the smart thing to do, which will protect your interests more effectively than flinging abuse at scientists. We should emphasise the old-fashioned virtues of uniting in the face of a crisis, of resourcefulness and community action. Projects like the transition towns network and proposals for a green new deal tell a story which people are more willing to hear.
In his fascinating book Carbon Detox, George Marshall argues that people are not persuaded by information. Our views are formed by the views of the people with whom we mix. Of the narratives that might penetrate these circles, we are more likely to listen to those that offer us some reward. A story that tells us that the world is cooking and that we'll have to make sacrifices for the sake of future generations is less likely to be accepted than the more rewarding idea that climate change is a conspiracy hatched by scheming governments and venal scientists, and that strong, independent-minded people should unite to defend their freedoms.
He proposes that instead of arguing for sacrifice, environmentalists should show where the rewards might lie: that understanding what the science is saying and planning accordingly is the smart thing to do, which will protect your interests more effectively than flinging abuse at scientists. We should emphasise the old-fashioned virtues of uniting in the face of a crisis, of resourcefulness and community action. Projects like the transition towns network and proposals for a green new deal tell a story which people are more willing to hear.
I'm distraught. That's my childhood. keep to the Fen Causeway
Interesting how few comments there are on this blog. Such a waste. Will have to contact them. Might be a good IN to the Obama administration. They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
If you assume that Reid, Pelosi and the rest are smarter versions of the former governor with slightly more straightforward names, a lot of recent Dem strategery suddenly starts to make more sense.
The voter turnout for this election was broadly predicted to be very high by American standards,[94] and a record number of votes were cast. The current total number of votes tallied is roughly 131 million (more, if one adds "blank" votes and totals from individual county websites), compared to 122.3 million in 2004 (which also boasted the highest record since 1968, after which the voting age was lowered to 18).
Gans's error was accepting Census data at face value: "If this prediction proves accurate, turnout would be at either the same level as in 2004 or, at most, one percentage point higher (or between 60.7 percent and 61.7 percent). ...For years, CSAE and every other reputable organization working in this field had used the Census Bureau's estimates of November age-eligible population (VAP) to determine turnout." Indeed, the FEC did not report returns for 126M voters in 2004.
So it's unclear why Gans would hitch his wagon to the Burnham Method. Except that common wisdom holds, closed or open primary results are poor predictors of GE results. And he'd noticed substantial, negative change in registered Republicans' turnout. I don't think this observation is wrong or insignificant.
I would say, 2006 GE and primary results by state are a sturdier premise. (+ 15% registered DP turnout in my district.) Many small turnout increases elsewhere, say 1.5 - 2.5%, accumulate. But don't add up to "landslide" victory.
10,4370,418 more people voted Democrat in 2008, but total increase in uniparty ballots was 8,226,677 (compared to +8,848,065 total turnout). The Bush/McCain lost 2,143,741 for the team which alone accounts for 20% of the DP's total gain over the cycle. Obama started out with a 2004 party deficit (3,012,166). The question remains, how many of each --registered Republicans, unaffiliateds, and Dems-- to distribute the remaining 80% -- across 50 states or just the ones with the greates EVs. I've yet to find SoS data that describes a candidate's popular total by voters' party affiliations. Maybe that will be Gans's next project. Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
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