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Our Jerome Goes Anti-Blair in the FT!

by LondonYank Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 03:49:35 PM EST

The Blair project gains momentum

Financial Times: February 4 2008 19:20

Rumours grow ever stronger that Tony Blair might want to run Europe now that the ex-prime minister has stopped running the UK. The British press reports that Blair met former top aides at Davos last month to plot a pitch for the new job as a permanent president of the European Union. Up till now countries have taken turns in the chair but after the Lisbon treaty is ratified there will be one person at the top for a fixed term.

Yet opposition to a man many see as a warmonger and US stooge is already growing. European Tribune, a website run by the liberals behind the Daily Kos in the US, is starting a petition against his yet-to-be declared candidacy.

It was conceived at the weekend, and by Monday night the petition had been translated into nine languages and two website domains - including stopblair.eu - had been reserved.

"This was a spontaneous idea that caught on among readers," said Jerome Guillet, a Paris-based investment banker who prefers not to reveal his employer. (No, it is not Société Générale.)



"This is not just about the UK: it is about him," he assures residents of Europe's "semi-detached" member. Indeed he will be fishing for customers there.

Eurotrib.com, which has more than 2,000 users daily, hopes to get 1m signatures. That is the magic figure that, under the very same Lisbon treaty, obliges Brussels to take up the idea and consider acting on it.

Woohoo!  Way to go, Jerome!

As someone who has seen enought of Tony Blair's duplicity, mendacity and warmongering, I'm signing the petition just as soon as it is made available!  Citizens of the EU, unite and save yourselves from more war, more waste and more Blair!

Cross-posted from DailyKos.

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European Tribune, a website run by the liberals behind the Daily Kos in the US,

Huh?


"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 03:58:11 PM EST
I believe that should be "libruls" behind DailyKos.  I'll have to write the FT to correct.  </snark>
by LondonYank (LondonYank (at) aol.com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 04:01:21 PM EST
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Can't wait til Markos gets the news that either 1) he's running ET or 2) Jerome is behind Daily Kos.  :)  

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 04:04:15 PM EST
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The diary made the Rec List within a minute of my hitting the post button.  I went in to edit and was told that an admin was editing the diary and I needed to save my edits and try again later.  When I went back to the front page, my diary wasn't on the Rec List or the Recent List.  I refreshed and it came up, but only on the Recent List.  It still isn't on the Rec List, despite quite a few Recs.  Not sure what's going on . . .
by LondonYank (LondonYank (at) aol.com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 04:11:43 PM EST
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Like Poemless, I too was a bit jolted there.
by The3rdColumn on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:08:47 PM EST
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One of those almost-truth lies used to give Jerome's opinion greater weight and thus justify the space given to his views.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 04:11:38 PM EST
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Does this mean J can be a dkos front-pager now?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 04:32:23 PM EST
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If kos had sold himself into puppethood, then probably.

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure he could get 8 figures for that place.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 05:33:13 PM EST
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ACTUALLY, ET and dKos are run

behind the scenes by a cabal of Radical Leftists

from their secret offices

under the direction of the Head of the People's Commissariat of the Internet (#1)



She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 12:31:08 AM EST
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Jeez, AT, can't you keep a secret ?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 01:53:07 AM EST
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Hey, that looks like th Gran Vía access to the Puerta del Sol in Madrid!

Now I'm homesick...

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 04:17:51 AM EST
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nasty librul :)

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 06:53:01 AM EST
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Thanks for bringing this to us, LondonYank! I didn't think it would gain media momentum so quickly...

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 04:45:03 PM EST
I would have linked the petition, except I couldn't actually find it.  Is it up and ready for signing yet?  If so, I'll edit to add the link and put a comment on the FT site.
by LondonYank (LondonYank (at) aol.com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 05:05:07 PM EST
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It's not up yet. We still need a day or two before we can really start to spread the word, IMHO. And we better make sure that when the site it dugg or reddited or farked, it doesn't break down.

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 05:10:34 PM EST
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It's here, curently consisting of the English-language petition text, but as Turambar says, better wait until the programmers truly set up the site. They are just in the process of accessing it, and will probably work on it all night.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 05:26:29 PM EST
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On the FT site, the link is leading to http://www.stopblair.eu, which doesn't work.

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 05:33:58 PM EST
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http://stopblair.eu does work

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 05:50:30 PM EST
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Yes, but the FT readers won't be able to use the link.

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 05:54:38 PM EST
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as printed (if the blockquote is correct) it says "two website domains - including stopblair.eu - had been reserved..."

If you enter <stopblair.eu> - as printed - it takes you to the right place. Only if you add the <www> does it not.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:01:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Go to the actual FT article!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:13:12 PM EST
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Not to worry, the www... URL is something the webmaster can fix.

Just a thought: there are now links to the petition page here and in the FT website. Chances are that the googlebot and other web crawlers will pick it up even before the webmaster or someone else submits the URL to the search engines, and soon it will be indexed.

You're clearly a dangerous pinko commie pragmatist.

by Vagulus on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 07:17:40 PM EST
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are we running our own DNS server as part of this?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 07:23:33 PM EST
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That's just as well. We're not ready for prime time. EuroTrib.com is mentioned in the FT article. They will come here.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:06:49 PM EST
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Works now.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 07:30:29 PM EST
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Can residents sign it, or does one have to be exclusively an EU citizen?

"Schiller sprach zu Goethe, Steck in dem Arsch die Flöte! Goethe sagte zu Schiller, Mein Arsch ist kein Triller!"
by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 10:28:14 AM EST
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Anyone can sign it, and both residence and citizenship is data asked for.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 10:34:58 AM EST
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...and signed

"Schiller sprach zu Goethe, Steck in dem Arsch die Flöte! Goethe sagte zu Schiller, Mein Arsch ist kein Triller!"
by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 11:16:22 AM EST
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Well, well, well... Hurrah for Jerome! So it's very very official -- the StopBlair petition is on. Way to go!
by The3rdColumn on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 05:30:36 PM EST
We have been overtaken by events, in a good way...

It appears Blair has enlisted Peter Mandelson to "run his campaign". We got ourselves a fight!

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:15:37 PM EST
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It's a Just in Time process!

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:19:02 PM EST
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Migeru, And it will be one hell of a fight. I'm actually looking forward to the showdown.
by The3rdColumn on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:20:00 PM EST
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Maybe this fight is what will create an EU public sphere worth its name and a European netroots.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:31:17 PM EST
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Hear, hear.

I would be very proud to be part of that. But if it doesn't quite turn out this way, I won't be disappointed. A lot of people did a very good job on this idea and I'm already amazed at our potential. Thumbs up to everyone!

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu

by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 07:06:02 PM EST
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There's some work to be done to get those 1m signatures.
by The3rdColumn on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:27:20 PM EST
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Well as soon as it's live I'll be hitting all of those people I know who can be relied on to forward email campaigns to everyone with an emailed do this now.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:34:03 PM EST
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Let's wait until a bit "after" tomorrow, to make sure we are disseminating the final version. It might still be a temporary version by tomorrow morning.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:55:40 PM EST
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I was planning on Thursday, when everyone was certain it was up, working and wasn't immediately going to crash and burn.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:57:28 PM EST
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Let's wait until an "official" announcement here ?

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 07:50:00 PM EST
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missed an or out, it should have read  or when everyone was certain it was up

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 08:19:39 PM EST
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Many people I've informed of the project are willing to disseminate it. And some of them have huge networks.

"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:36:11 PM EST
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Propose to do the same thing here when petition is up and running -- will first target friends who are parents in my kiddies' schools and then a group of friends who work in lobby groups as well as in industry and ask them to spread the good news.
by The3rdColumn on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:40:00 PM EST
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Doesn't the ECI and the million signatures pertain to the European Commission's authority? Is the Council under any obligation to act on them?

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake
by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 10:27:26 AM EST
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It's symbolic.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 11:19:56 AM EST
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I thought they no longer see each other eye to eye.
by The3rdColumn on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:43:51 PM EST
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Ooops, meant Peter M and Tony B
by The3rdColumn on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:44:24 PM EST
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"The Blair project gains momentum"

Is that a pun on The Blair Witch Project?

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:43:26 PM EST
Well the Blair project sounds as scary and badly made. ;-)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 06:58:42 PM EST
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ET has been hospitable to Cindy Sheehan.  I'll forward a link to this page to her tomorrow A.M.

Any additional comments to Cindy to add?

Can't guarantee anything.  She might be ready/able to help.

by GiantMan (GiantMan2363 aaatttt Gmail.com) on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 07:53:55 PM EST
This has to be an European effort otherwise we risk 'contaminating' the process with non-EU signers, etc.

Which is why I haven't been involved.

Here's hoping that son-of-a-bitch can be thwarted!

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Mon Feb 4th, 2008 at 09:00:52 PM EST
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Very good.  Glad I asked.  I'll stay out of it.
by GiantMan (GiantMan2363 aaatttt Gmail.com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 03:02:47 AM EST
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Please read my comment on non-EU signers over at Daily Kos. Signers will be asked to enter theyr countries of nationality and residence. That way non-EU signers can be separated when it comes time to submit the petition to the EU.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 04:06:44 AM EST
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Maybe this is an information that should be added to the FP story or even to the petition itself.
by Fran on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 04:10:33 AM EST
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May I ask how in ht h__ this happened? I mena, the Ft reference, not the proposal...

We do not even have a decent number of signatures...

I just do not get it.. but ei.. bravo for the viral stuff!!! it's great... when it works in our favor it is wonderfullllll

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 06:56:34 AM EST
According to Jérôme, the writer of the Brussels Observer column on the FT has a blog, and some reader told him about it.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 07:11:13 AM EST
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(h/t Tom Enever on dKos)

Hague runs away in hilarity. "...a smile of intolerable anguish..."

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 07:16:57 AM EST
Thanks for the re-post, that's funny (the funniest is the laughing Labour minister).

In all the Anglo Disease and anti-British-Eurosceptics talk, one forgets how the British Parliament is several levels above the US in rhetoric.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 10:37:25 AM EST
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I thought it was stand-up comedy.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 02:58:23 PM EST
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No that's when they're trying to be serious.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 03:00:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BTW Have you seen Gervais' Latest - 'Fame'?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 03:05:44 PM EST
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not yet, think it's on our list of things to see

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 03:07:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
It's on YouT in 6 or 8 chunks.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 03:22:18 PM EST
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Perhaps we should write to Gordon and see if he will sign up? ;-)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 02:23:29 PM EST
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Over 600 signatures now.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 08:26:41 PM EST
I wasn't going to look again till the morning.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 09:28:27 PM EST
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Anyone know what the swear words are number 610 is throwing at us?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Tue Feb 5th, 2008 at 09:31:38 PM EST
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Nope...! But there are few french, mostly british expats living in France.
The occasional french people's signature being english literate ("view" in english)... Some coverage in french press or blogs might be necessary ?
I don't have any links in those, but maybe some others ?

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 04:09:00 AM EST
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The British press (FT, Telegraph) stole a march on us and a great job was done by Melanchthon, linca, Migeru, Loefing, DoDo, Colman (who am I forgetting?) to get the petition up and running.

Of course the first arrivals are mostly British. That's all to the better - it shows this is a petition against Blair, not against Britain.

Next step, widening to other countries.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 04:28:55 AM EST
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I think we should ramp up that widening once we have the petition signing on our own site.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 06:45:54 AM EST
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I think it would be worthwhile to publish the petition on AgoraVox - le média citoyen, as well, which although of mixed quality attracts some notables and draws some lively discussions.
by Loefing on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 02:20:09 PM EST
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Following a suggestion, I created the links to the existing language versions below the site logo. Does it appear right for everyone? (I could imagine problems for people who set large fonts in their browsers.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 06:47:33 AM EST
I see it on Opera on a Wintendo XPerimental box. Changing text size in Opera also rescales everything else (it's basically a zoom function), so it's also OK in other sizes.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 07:17:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I made sure all sizes are defined according to character size (em unit in css), so it should work perfectly for old eyes or weird screen definitions

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 07:21:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Since when do you have access to ET's site code?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 07:22:50 PM EST
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It's getting late, I thought he was speaking about the stopblair.eu site....

Sorry.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 07:24:26 PM EST
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Getting late? You're 17 degrees behind me... I now bow out.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 07:28:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
France is on ECT just like you (?)... good night.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 at 07:56:27 PM EST
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