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LQD: housing price trends

by Jerome a Paris Sat Apr 5th, 2008 at 02:57:52 PM EST

A few articles on the housing bubble (or the end thereof), as found over the past week.



Data show Fannie and Freddie taking the wheel in home loans

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and other government-sponsored mortgage companies have become the backbone of the troubled US mortgage market as purely private sources of finance have all but dried up.

Fannie, Freddie and the Federal Home Loan Banks, a network of bank co-operatives founded during the Great Depression, provided 90 per cent of the financing for new mortgages at the end of 2007, according to the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, which regulates Fannie and Freddie.

The increasing role of the government-sponsored enterprises, or GSEs as they are known, reverses years of declining market share. Fannie and Freddie provide financing by buying mortgages and packaging them into securities.

The FHLBs lend money to their member banks against mortgage collateral.

Availability of fresh mortgage funding is seen as crucial to provide support for US house prices, which have fallen sharply from their peak against a record pace of foreclosures and the resulting credit squeeze among private label lenders.


Third of UK housing deals fall through

As many as one in three housing deals are falling through because buyers cannot get the mortgage they need as more lenders retreat from the market.

Buyers are discovering that money is not available in spite of agreeing on a purchase, according to estate agents, or that the bank valuation of their house fails to match the price agreed.

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The effect of the lending freeze, and falling house prices, has been severe, with transactions down between 30 and 35 per cent, according to leading sales portal Rightmove.

The number of estate agency office closures has more than doubled to about 10 per cent as a result, according to Ed Williams, managing director of Rightmove.

Deals are becoming difficult to secure, say agents. "The fall-through rate has gone up dramatically in recent weeks to around 35 per cent," said Marc Goldberg, head of residential sales at Hamptons International. Normally the figure would be between 10 and 20 per cent.

Paul Jarman, head of residential agency at Savills, estimated that 20-25 per cent of its sales were falling through, mainly because funding was being withdrawn. Valuers for banks were finding that some houses were worth 10 or 15 per cent less than the agreed price, Mr Jarman said.


Look at property prices, IMF says

Central banks should pay greater attention to housing markets when setting interest rates, the International Monetary Fund said yesterday, becoming the latest body to challenge the once-dominant view that monetary policy should avoid trying to damp booms and busts in property prices.

The comments came in an analytical chapter in the latest World Economic Outlook that suggests that many European countries are vulnerable to a substantial housing market correction.

The IMF estimates that house prices are more than 30 per cent above their fair value in Ireland, almost 30 per cent overvalued in the Netherlands and the United Kingdom, and more than 20 per cent overvalued in France.

And two graphs:

But prices in the posh arrondissements in Paris still went up by 12+% in the past year. Sigh...

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According to Les Echos, blame Johny Foreigner, mostly the new billionaire superclass build over the past couple of years:

A cela, il faut ajouter une autre spécificité. Le marché parisien est fortement animé par une clientèle étrangère à haut pouvoir d'achat, prête à débourser de petites fortunes pour s'offrir un pied-à-terre dans le triangle d'or, le Marais, l'île Saint-Louis, le Champ-de-Mars ou encore le Luxembourg...
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Si la crise financière les affecte, elle ne remet pas en cause leur désir de pied-à-terre à Paris. On assiste même à un phénomène nouveau : les collectionneurs d'appartements. Autrement dit, des milliardaires qui s'offrent un pied-à-terre à Londres, à New York, à Tokyo ou ailleurs. Dans les beaux quartiers, " ce sont surtout les acquéreurs russes, du Golfe et des pays émergents qui font monter les enchères ", indique Charles-Marie Jottras

To this, you'd need to add yet another peculiarity. The Parisian market is strongly animated by a foreign customer base with high purchasing power, ready to spend small fortunes to get themselves a pied-a-terre in the golden triangle, the Marais, Ile Saint-Louis, Champ-de-Mars or Luxembourg...
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Even they are affected by the financial crisis, it doesn't make them reconsider their desire for a pied-a-terre in Paris. We are even witnessing the rise of a new trend: apartment collectors. i.e. billionaires who indulge themselves with a pied-a-terre in London, New York, Tokyo or elsewhere. In the upscale neighborhoods, "the bids are pushed higher mostly by aspiring buyers from Russia, the Gulf states and emerging countries" , says Charles-Marie Jottras

I should really learn how to make dual-language quotes...

by Bernard (bernard) on Sat Apr 5th, 2008 at 05:17:11 PM EST
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by DoDo on Sat Apr 5th, 2008 at 05:23:21 PM EST
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When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 05:15:11 AM EST
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...and the best feature of TribExt is the bilingual column editor.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 05:39:20 AM EST
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It says that some deals are falling through because the banks do not agree with the buyers as to the valuation of the property. I'm making the assumption that the bank reckons the value to be less than the buyer. But surely that means the potential buyer returns to the seller and says that unless they devalue the property by a certain percentage the deal is off?

If enough sellers agree to do this in order to sell, that would lower the market price of property, meaning that the assets of the mortgage company would shrink, which is obviously not something they want. Or am I getting this the wrong way round? Shouldn't the banks be unwilling to disagree about the price of the property, and instead concentrate on ensuring that borrowers aren't over-indebted?

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by Ephemera on Sat Apr 5th, 2008 at 06:24:51 PM EST
But half of the market comprises people who don't have to sell, but are actually still trading up. So they wan't the best price they can  get, usually based on an impression of what they should have got, which in a market which is falling means they won't sell.

Also, a lot of mortgage lenders have returned to the "safe" lending schemes they operated in the mid-90s of requiring 20 - 25% deposits and low multiples of wages. The riskier 95 - 110% schemes which were commonplace this time last year have disappeared. This does menas that, until prices have finished falling, (and imo they have a long way to go and will take time doing it) is going to make it hard for people to enter at the bottom.

The big falls are in the buy-to-let market, a legal scam which has inflated prices ridiculously in the last 15 years. The wheels have come off and now people are selling for whatever they can get, which is pulling all the property in those areas down.

I don't wish ill on people but I'm glad buy-to-let has fallen apart as it was a disgraceful practice that should have been, if not outlawed, taxed into unprofitability.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 05:02:31 AM EST
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Actually, buy-to-let started the bubble, but all bubbles are essentially about "trading up" or "buy to sell" or buy to flip". Buy-to-let doesn't result in empty dwellings (quite the opposite: it turns empty dwellings into rental property): "trading up" does.

Buy-to-let is an arbitrage between the rent a property commands and the mortgage payments required to buy it. If the mortgage payments are low relative to rents, buy-to-let will lead to rising demand for building purchases and higher demand for credit. It is quite easy to nip such a bubble in the bud by slightly increasing interest rates so that the property prices don't increase too much and the demand for credit is curtailed.

If, instead, interest rates are kept low or are even lowered further, then property prices start appreciating at double-digit rates and within a couple of years, when the trend has established itself, it becomes more profitable to buy property to resell it rather than to live in it or rent it.

I have no sympathy for buy-to-letters but they were not responsible for the bubble lasting 10 years, only for seeding it.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 05:12:23 AM EST
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No I disagree : Buy to let, being essentially free property, placed normal buyers, the poor saps who actually wanted to live in their property, at extreme disadvantage. Because of the vast differential in cost, in the competitive market of the last 15 years, they were regularly outbid, leading to an inflationary spiral as they were forced to bid higher to get into the market.

What helped this was that multiple buyers became preferred bidders via estate agents. When I sold my flat it never went on the open market as it was bought by a buy-to-let-er who was on their contact list.

Now they are making losses cos the rents aren't equalling the mortgage costs, and are having to sell at a loss. Good, I hope they all lose a lot of money. But I would have preferred such a distortion had been prevented in the first place.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 05:49:11 AM EST
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Right, the inflationary spiral could have been prevented by raising interest rates  as soon as the trend established himself. But there were too many people making money out of that.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 06:02:52 AM EST
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Also, buy-to-let has been the vehicle of a large number of tax avoidance schemes, due to a failure to close various loopholes, which kept buy-to-let going far beyond simple arbitrage of rents vs mortgages.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 09:05:15 AM EST
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ABN Amro have an interesting report

 Home Truths

which I have yet to digest fully....

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 09:30:35 AM EST
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More to the point, what's Auteuil going for the m2 these days? Or maybe Boulogne-Billancourt near the park?

The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet. Winston Churchill
by r------ on Sat Apr 5th, 2008 at 07:20:00 PM EST
that's in euros per sq.m.

The 6th arrondissement is at 10,000 on average, and all nice quartiers in Paris are at that level, or have their nicest places at that level. It's a bit depressing when you rent.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 03:03:26 PM EST
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Well, renting is still more affordable than buying... Those that really face troubles are those who don't seem stable enough for landlords, who are almost stricter than bankers these days.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 04:16:26 PM EST
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...almost 30 per cent overvalued in the Netherlands and the United Kingdom....

But I thought the UK had a land shortage that magically appeared in the mid-1990s and accounted for the price increases?

Still, saying it's only 30% overvalued is being ridiculously generous, in my opinion.  Median household income is £19-22,000.  The median home price is -- what, £180-190,000?  (That's what the median house costs in dollars in America, and Americans earn a bit more than Brits at the median.)  Have the IMF call me when they crash to £90-100,000, and I'll agree with the ruling that sanity has been restored.

And my understanding was that Ireland was looking at even worse falls.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Apr 5th, 2008 at 09:16:03 PM EST
Oh, and just wait until the other shoe drops in the American market.  Turns out -- I'm shocked, I tell you -- much of the new residential construction that's gone up in the past few years of of such awful quality that we're going to be spending billions to keep the damned things standing.

The Atlantic had a good article about it last month.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Apr 5th, 2008 at 09:36:53 PM EST
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shocked, I tell you

yeah.  me too.

wasn't any surprise if you were watching any of it being built.  badly cured (or nearly green) lumber, shoddy methods, poor finish.  amazing that any of it passed inspection -- and [here I get really ticked off] during those same years it was impossible to get a permit to build a solid little strawbale cabin, or put up a yurt, anywhere in the county I lived in.

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Sat Apr 5th, 2008 at 11:19:51 PM EST
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Mother Nature had her revenge in Florida.  It was a riot watching all of the new developments go up, pushing the suburbs from the coast in Palm Beach County all the way out near the Everglades.  Awful construction, and natives all knew.  "Just wait for the first hurricane to come through.  They won't know what hit'em."  Sure enough, hurricanes went through and the new construction suffered the damage.  The only problem is that it pushes everyone else's insurance premiums through the roof.

The stuff they build in the Mid-Atlantic is even worse.  They might not be as pretty, but I'll stick to the old brick buildings.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 12:02:13 AM EST
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BTW, the ever-amusing Dmitry Orlov points out that things should get interesting when the market value of the scrap and fittings in these abandoned houses becomes comparable to their market value as real estate.  He reckons a point will come where they turn into "anti-houses"...  valuable only for their copper wiring, fixtures, etc.

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...
by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Sat Apr 5th, 2008 at 11:22:18 PM EST
There's already a fair bit of robbery going on for the copper and fixtures.  (I'd guess there's usually two or three mentions of it in the local crime stats in the WaPo every week.)  It's just a question of whether it becomes viable for the actual homeowners.  I do think that kind of crime is going to rise quite a bit, because abandoned homes are going to become a lot more frequent as more and more people have negative equity and decide to just mail the keys in.

Can't happen in DC, though.  We're different....

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sat Apr 5th, 2008 at 11:52:20 PM EST
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But prices in the posh arrondissements in Paris still went up by 12+% in the past year. Sigh...

While most of the nation plods through a housing slowdown, Manhattan is experiencing its highest prices in history.

The average price of a Manhattan apartment in the first three months of this year was $1.7 million, up 33.5 percent from the same period last year

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A number of brokerage firms released data about the first quarter that generally showed the same trends. All showed that the median price of an apartment grew. According to Miller Samuel, it was up to $917,000 from $840,000, suggesting high prices for many types of apartments.

The median price for studios rose by 22 percent, to $490,000 from $401,000; and the median price for one-bedroom apartments grew by 12 percent, to $750,000 from $669,000,

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Manhattan Apartment Prices Hit Record High

My offhand guess is that this is roughly the peak, but still... these prices, and it's Manhattan as a whole - an area with well over one and a half million people?!

by MarekNYC on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 12:51:19 PM EST
It's an easy to fortify area, isn't it?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 12:52:33 PM EST
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Yup. Here it is with its fort and ramparts.

The wide street is Broadway, the one along the wall is you've guessed it.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 03:58:55 PM EST
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What's the median rent?  I'd guess about $3,000-3,500.  Pretty amazing prices.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Apr 6th, 2008 at 05:27:38 PM EST
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