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Withdrawal Open Thread

by Migeru Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 09:59:06 AM EST

What are you going to do without football today?


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Myself, I'll probably spend some quality time with my 6-year-old.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:00:23 AM EST
i've managed to avoid melting whilst in the market this morning. but I look conspicuously white compared to everybody else down here. I am terrified of sunburn.

I now have a pink parasol. Catching up on the world at the moment.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:47:33 AM EST
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Well, summer finally arrived - it's 33°C here. Am not going to complain, though I must say I am not adjusted to the heat yet.
by Fran on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 11:03:40 AM EST
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Wow, a little early for that kind of heat, isn't it?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 11:06:36 AM EST
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Well, June can be very hot, we used to have 'Hitzeferien' (heatvacation) in school when the temperatur went above 30°C by 10am. As July and part of August are school holidays, it must have been in June - we kids of course loved it, as we could spend the day at the community swimming pool. :-)
by Fran on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 02:18:55 PM EST
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Wasn't it simply called Hitzefrei?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jun 24th, 2008 at 05:20:30 AM EST
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There was football?

<runs and hides>

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:31:26 AM EST
I'll be mourning George Carlin.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:32:51 AM EST
Me too.

Along with Hicks, Bruce and a few other taboo-breakers

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:43:07 AM EST
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Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 11:04:00 AM EST
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Drat. youtube and wifi aren't friends.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 11:17:08 AM EST
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Shame its all how pro-life is actually anti-women

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 11:20:27 AM EST
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Not sure what that means...hmmm

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 01:44:57 PM EST
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Conservatives want live babies so they can raise'em to be dead soldiers.

Brilliant. Sig-line material.

by Nomad on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 06:49:03 PM EST
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What are you going to do without football today?

Discussing the quarter finals and semi-finals.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:35:11 AM EST
right now, I'm dooming germany and russia by suggesting they'll be the finalists.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:45:21 AM EST
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Where is your "semi-finals predictions" thread?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:45:44 AM EST
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I thought already in dodo's Euro 2008 knockout stage we have made our forecasts. However, of course with partially the wrong teams.

Germany - Turkey
Russia  - Spain

The first should be rather clear. Turkey has big problems with both injured and barred players. Additionally already in the  past games, they were lucky. Therefore Germany will win.
I think Loew will stick to the 4-2-3-1 system, but as a 4-4-2 should work, too, I would suggest to switch, if Turkey should make the first goal. One might think about taking Borowski on the right side instead of Fritz compared to the Portugal game, which might be a little bit more offensive variant.

I have not seen any game Russia completely so far. But others told me, they were quite impressed. In any case it won't be 4-1 again as in the group phase. Spain was already very nervous against Italy. I guess the two a bit similar teams will neutralise each other this time, and we are going to see another penalty shoot-out. In this case I think the Spanish team has the better nerves and will win the game.

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 04:05:22 PM EST
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Well, be forewarned: during the 1994 World Cup, when the German team saw that their quarterfinals opponents 'prepare' for the match by going to a bar, they thought it'll be an easyí win on superior condition - but Bulgaria won 2-1....

Oliver Bierhoff at least warned the team to not dismiss even this decimated Turkish team and play concentrated until the end, he even told that an eventual loss to such a Turkish team should not be considered a blamage. SPIEGEL also has a nice op-ed.

Still, I too exect a victory for Germany, even if I'll be rooting for the comeback kids.

But others told me, they were quite impressed.

Yes. Based on what I saw last time, Russia with self-confidence now regained and Arshavin playing should roll over Spain, not cancel each other out.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Jun 24th, 2008 at 05:36:01 AM EST
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You're not taking into account the self-confidence boost Spain have received from beating Italy, winning a penalty shootout and making it past the quarter-finals. Plus, they have casillas.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 24th, 2008 at 05:39:38 AM EST
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Also, there is increasingly some bad air in the German team. Ballack vs Gomez vs VfB Stuttgart, critique on Podolski, Löw's conflicts with DFB. Stupid thing that all of this is allowed to come up now.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jun 24th, 2008 at 05:41:55 AM EST
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Nice interview with Hamit Altintop, where he also discusses his split identity.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 12:46:46 PM EST
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I hope he is right, when he says,
"I would be very happy, when each fan would see the game on wednesday as a big celebration between the nations. Independent of the result the game is a big chance, to make a step to the always discussed integration."

The Turkish team has been great. After they won against Croatia, some of the players went to comfort the devastated Croatian players instead of going directly to their fans. But especially if the game is decided by a controversial referee decision, such a game could as well split instead of integrate.
Fair play on the part of all players will be very important (After in both teams already a player got a red card for assault - Schweinsteiger and Volkan).

Der Amerikaner ist die Orchidee unter den Menschen
Volker Pispers

by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 03:49:25 PM EST
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some of the players went to comfort the devastated Croatian players instead of going directly to their fans

The Turkish team showed similar good heart in the Bronze match of the 2002 World Cup against South Korea. But then came the Switzerland-Turkey match... But now there seems to be a conscious effort to not let that happen again. Even after Volkan's assault - which wasn't brutal (allegedly he thought Koller is grabbing him and he wanted to force himself free), but I saw even Turkish fans in Hungary blamed his own stupidity instead of external circumstances.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Jun 24th, 2008 at 05:19:41 AM EST
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This morning:


Chinese warned of record rise in ore price

Rio Tinto and BHP Billiton have asked their Chinese steelmaker customers to accept the largest ever increase in iron ore prices or risk the interruption of supplies from Australia.

Traders and industry officials said the mining companies have demanded price increases for their annual iron ore contracts in excess of the record 71.5 per cent rise of 2005 and were fighting for increases of 85-95 per cent.

Rio and BHP have warned their Chinese clients some annual contracts will expire next Monday and they would cease supply under the old terms. They have told them the ore would instead be sold into the spot market, where prices are higher.

The bold step indicates that the heated annual price negotiations, already well beyond their traditional conclusion date, are set to move into a hostile phase.

(...)

If Rio and BHP carry out their threat of diverting shipments into the spot market, analysts said the steelmakers would be likely to retaliate by stopping buying for as long as possible. Although China has record high iron ore inventories, the country depended heavily on imports, they said, and it would not be long before it had to cave in and buy into the spot market.

Morgan Stanley said in a report the ore market was under "unprecedented" pricing developments and . . . "remains very tight and in significant deficit".

and this afternoon:


Rio Gets at Least 80% More for Iron Ore From China's Baosteel

June 23 (Bloomberg) -- Rio Tinto Group, fending off a $171 billion hostile bid from BHP Billiton Ltd., said China's largest steelmaker will pay at least 80 percent more for iron ore, reflecting freight costs from Australia.

Rio and BHP have demanded for the first time in the Asian market a bigger gain than Brazil's Cia. Vale do Rio Doce, the world's largest exporter of the raw material, because their Australian ore costs less to ship. Chinese mills have failed to arrest six years of price increases that drove up costs.

Baosteel Group Corp. agreed to pay Rio $144.66 a metric ton for so-called Pilbara blend fines for the year started April 1, London-based Rio said today in a statement. The Shanghai-based steelmaker will also pay Rio $201.69 a ton for Pilbara blend lump, 97 percent more than a year ago.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:41:47 AM EST
The price of nickel has been a major factor in wild fluctuations in stainless steel prices.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 01:48:32 PM EST
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However, he [Tremonti] warned of dire political consequences unless initiatives are taken to curb the price of food and oil.

"The impoverishment of the middle classes in Europe can have only one outcome: fascism," he said.

Considering that Tremonti is a member of Forza Italia but pretty close to Lega Nord, and the fact that we're actually talking about Italy, the follow-up question is: would he disapprove of that?

Now now, yes de Gondi, I won't bash Italy anymore. Instead, I'll quote an SMS I got today from a close friend.

Arvid! Am in Bologna, never want to leave this place. The sky is light blue, the food, coffee and wine is divine, everyone is fantastically handsome, nice, and well dressed. And also leftists. We have to move here, the entire city is centered around the oldest University in the world and none of the houses inside the city wall are built after the turn of the century!


Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 03:16:51 PM EST
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Was supposed to be headlined as "Quote of the day", but whatever. Stupid me. :p

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 03:17:43 PM EST
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Is this on top of the 65 % rise in the price of iron ore that was negotioated this February? That would be impossible!

Japanese and South Korean steel mills have agreed to a 65 percent increase in iron ore prices from Brazil in the industry's first major deal for this year, which will set a benchmark for prices at a level painful for steel makers.

I guess it might be an idea to buy some more shares in that local iron mine, it's down 4 % today...

PS. Oh my God it is!

Nippon Steel said that it and Posco of South Korea had agreed to pay the Brazilian mining giant Vale $78.90 a ton for Itabira fine ore in the year starting April 1, a rise of 65 percent and the sixth annual increase in a row.
vs.
Baosteel Group Corp. agreed to pay Rio $144.66 a metric ton for so-called Pilbara blend fines for the year started April 1, London-based Rio said today in a statement. The Shanghai-based steelmaker will also pay Rio $201.69 a ton for Pilbara blend lump, 97 percent more than a year ago.

Gaaaaah!!!!! If these prices hold up, that iron mine is a veritable, eh, gold mine!

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 03:26:17 PM EST
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web site called imagevimage. I was just trying to download a picture, and it appears to have been taken over by a porn-pusher. I checked my Dog Mtn Hike diary, and it looks OK, but it opens very slowly. Should I delete any of my diaries that still have pictures from that site? That is, is there any danger of this thing being viral?

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:45:05 AM EST
You should contact someone about "photo rescue". She did that for Nomad once.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:46:40 AM EST
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paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:51:09 AM EST
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http://www.eurotrib.com/user/someone

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:52:48 AM EST
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Done. Thanks.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:59:53 AM EST
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Did you resize those pictures smaller for ET?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:47:30 AM EST
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paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:48:52 AM EST
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Then the hosting site is slow.
Try Photobucket eg

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:53:37 AM EST
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Will do.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 10:59:33 AM EST
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... thread ... I'm thinking I can hang on til the Texas Derby on Thursday, and Los Monarcos have their first pre-season next Monday.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 11:08:44 AM EST
Hunter notices something we've been discussing here for a while

I could believe that the United States would be reduced to torture; we have tarnished our history with more and with less, over the last two centuries, and it would be naive to presume it had ended, say, with the internment of Japanese Americans, or with the officially sanctioned witch hunts of the paranoid and rigorously manipulative McCarthy era. But I would have found it harder to imagine, even eight years ago, that human torture would be considered the more noble choice than refraining from it, or that those that opposed it would be met with such mockery, or such flag-waving revulsion


keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 11:26:34 AM EST
It really is amazing.  Even more amazing that people like McCain, one of the few who know firsthand how disgusting it is, would shamefully nod and go along with it.  (How Bush got him to switch on that, I'll never know.)  I don't know how the public would vote if the election were decided on torture, which is itself horrifying.  But, really, I'd rather lose opposing it.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 11:42:52 AM EST
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I don't get it: I thought in the primary debates McCain was anti-torture to the point that the Zombie Bitch wanted to vote for Hillary instead.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 05:05:42 PM EST
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He was, until the bill was in Congress and Massa Dubya opposed it.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 05:34:16 PM EST
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Well to go with Peak Football, here comes Peak Phosphorus?

Scientists warn of lack of vital phosphorus as biofuels raise demand - Times Online

Leo Lewis, Asia Business Correspondent

Battered by soaring fertiliser prices and rioting rice farmers, the global food industry may also have to deal with a potentially catastrophic future shortage of phosphorus, scientists say.

Researchers in Australia, Europe and the United States have given warning that the element, which is essential to all living things, is at the heart of modern farming and has no synthetic alternative, is being mined, used and wasted as never before.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 12:02:26 PM EST
Safeguard all the old matches for a rainy day?

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 05:16:33 PM EST
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In the news:

Obits:  I can't believe George Carlin died.  Well, partly I can't believe he made it this long.  But what crappy news to wake up to!  In college I had a class where I had to invent and pitch a TV show.  I don't really remember the concept I came up with, but I wanted it to be hosted by George Carlin.  

Sports:  Looking forward to watching Russia kick more a..., er, soccer balls.  Also giddy that the Cubs swept the Sox.  Once again the North has one the Civil War.  I also found myself watching the gymnastics tryouts.  Gymnastics is creepy.  I think points should be deducted for creepiness.  If you can do all of those flips and not look creepy, you should get bonus points.

Society:  I greatly enjoyed the Sirota party, only to learn late in the night that the Sangria I'd been enjoying so much had a significant dose of brandy in it, which might explain why I had such a fabulous time despite the constant assault from mosquitoes.  I expect to perish from West Nile any day now...  Anyway, I think I liked Sirota much more than most of the people there.  That is, only a handful (ok, 4 that I counted: Sirota, myself, an eccentric friend, and the British husband of an acquaintance) of people were brave enough to be even a smidgen critical of Obama.  And after Sirota left, it was also us who had to hang out in the alley to smoke and who closed the party down.  It's my lot in life to find myself among the fringe of a group of people who are already a fringe minority.  I really like the the Brit.  He wanted to talk about Russia and finance and foreign policy.  Anyway, my moment of brandy-induced enlightenment came late that night when I was so thankful that my reallife friends are more interesting than our celebrity guest.  It was a wonderful feeling, until I woke up the next day with a blaring headache and a million itchy welts.

Finance:  Helicopter monies to arrive soon.  Whew.

So, how was your weekend?

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 12:07:38 PM EST
It'll be interesting to see how the press covers Carlin's death.  Think they have any videos without language that would disqualify them from being on the air?

Glad the Sirota party went well.  I envy you.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 12:34:45 PM EST
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Nothing to envy.  Well, except the sangria...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 01:45:58 PM EST
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Nah, not a fan of sangria.  Beer and whiskey for me.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 02:20:43 PM EST
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It was Midsummer. I remember nothing...

Oh, except I do recall that I didn't use the word 'smidgen' the entire time ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 01:40:25 PM EST
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Antismidgenite...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 01:45:27 PM EST
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Smidgens and tads refer to quantities that are largely unknown to the Finns. If you open a bottle you drink it, like the Russians.

There is a word 'snadi' that can be substituted when rarely referring to small amounts. The jack in petanque is called a snadi.

In case you are interested....and a case is what Finnish beer comes in. A six-pack with a carrying handle is called a 'mäyräkoira' or dachshund.

<from Prof Sven's book of Fascinating Finnish Idioms with an 'm'>

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 02:06:26 PM EST
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I believe I used the term in reference to the amount of criticism directed at Obama, not in reference to alcohol.  

Is this the effing end of the month language police raid or something, Sven?  It is seriously annoying.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 02:09:37 PM EST
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its probably his post midsummer festival hangover.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 02:11:48 PM EST
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The days are now getting shorter - always a time for reflection. This is what happens in a culture played largely in a minor key ;-)

Though I had rather a successful day, including a trip to the recycling centre with kaput electronics, the return of Midsummer empties, and complaining to the council about the disappearance of our local bottle bank for non-returnables. All of this in pouring rain.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 02:21:40 PM EST
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That reminds me I have to visit the bottlebank myself


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 02:53:33 PM EST
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I think you are right.  We'll give him a pass today.  :)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 02:40:25 PM EST
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As you wish....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 02:12:30 PM EST
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a fringe minority.  Russophiles are, and you and I share membership in that particular one.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 11:13:47 PM EST
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To clarify, I am er, perfectly aware that Obama supporters are not a fringe minority.  Hello - I live in Chicago.  My group of friends with their particular brand of political activities (like running candidates against Daley's machine), however, are a minority.  Some more fringey than others...

I didn't know you were a "Russophile."  :)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Tue Jun 24th, 2008 at 11:23:56 AM EST
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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but if it has it's worth another plug:

The McClatchy series on Guantanamo Very good, very depressing.

by MarekNYC on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 12:22:53 PM EST
McClatchy seems to be the only news organization that actually covers news nowadays.  But, hey, why be concerned with Guantanamo when we can spend weeks eulogizing Tim Russert?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 12:32:19 PM EST
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Leaving for home. 34.5°C outside, a couple of degrees more inside the train with no functional AC. First car first window behind the loco. The conductor arrives in the room. Then there is a whistle from the loco, and it doesn't stop. Full brake release. We pass a stopping place while coming to a halt from 120 km/h.

The conductor keeps the cool, he first finishes checking the tickets, then he looks out of the window. Me too. Only then (three minutes messed) do I see the locomotive driver climb down and walk forward besides the track. He throws a single glance at the front of the locomotive, then walks back, says to the conductor: "We won't go anywhere for a while... suicide... I saw him stepping down the end of the platform, regrettable..."

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 12:40:18 PM EST
I had an interesting day.  I was in a meeting with the Israeli Ambassador.  Hard going but very interesting.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 12:50:53 PM EST
Why?

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 12:54:26 PM EST
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Why was I in a meeting with him or why was it interesting?

He is visiting Wales and requested a meeting with people from the trade union movement.  All of us were terrified because we know we are completely ignorant on the issues of the Middle East (with respect to meeting with someone at his level), even though we've read up and looked at TUC and union breifings and policy.

He has already met with colleagues in London but obviously wants to have a dialogue as widely as possible.  The TUC has policy supporting the two state solution although indiviudal unions may have different/no policy on it.  Most of Wales' international work has focussed around solidarity with Colombia in the last year or so and less has been done on the Middle East.

He was concerned about unions having policy to boycott Israeli goods etc although none represented at the meeting have that policy and nor does the TUC.  They very much viewed the Israeli's as being single out internationally and their perception was that unions do encourage boycotts.  Plus a lot of other stuff on some of the history of the current conflict, and how they feel that Israel has had no choice but to take the course they have done when faced with the type of violence and extremist action, plus the view from the other side that they have no right to exist.

And I know next to nothing about all of this so could only listen.  Hence interesting but also hard going because they clearly wanted to get some kind of position out of us that was closer to where they would like to see us stand but we weren't able to do so.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 01:09:26 PM EST
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Sorry to point it out - but it is 'focused' and 'focusing': one of my pet peeves ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 01:43:37 PM EST
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And a very common error on my part!  I'll try harder, Sven.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 01:45:05 PM EST
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It's OK, I make quite a few slips myself, even if people pay me to be right ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 01:51:43 PM EST
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All of us were terrified because we know we are completely ignorant on the issues

You read ET, you are-not ignorant.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 05:42:18 PM EST
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Not ignorant in a general sense but on this specific topic I am, compared to the vast and in depth knowledge of the Ambassador.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 24th, 2008 at 01:02:26 AM EST
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For the foodies in the audience:

I was very proud of myself this weekend for inventing a delicious little appetizer (and quickly developing a scary addiction to it.)  Goat cheese and nectarine bruschetta.  That's it.  Devilshly easy.  Toasted rustic bread with plain goat cheese, olive oil and sliced nectarines.  Simple and delicious, with a nice Spanish white wine.  

I'm wondering if I can subsist on this all summer...

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 02:39:07 PM EST
nice Spanish white wine

Which one?

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 02:47:12 PM EST
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A Verdejo from Castilla y León.  Can't remember the name.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 03:01:21 PM EST
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Sounds great.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 04:35:25 PM EST
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I made not quite so interesting lentil soup yesterday.  For the price of a bag of lentils (not much) 2 carrots, an onion and a couple of stock cubes, I can feed myself for most of the week. And it is good for me.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 02:59:55 PM EST
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needs meat ;) Also, real stock - I make huge batches of the stuff, reduce, and turn it into ice cubes. It's easy and fairly cheap since a lot of the meat part comes from scraps that I freeze after making things like roast chicken, oxtail, ossobucco, etc.
by MarekNYC on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 03:07:07 PM EST
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Lentil soup is traditionally vegetarian, I think.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.
by poemless on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 03:08:43 PM EST
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It's lovely with bacon pieces but I was reduced to eating the very last of all the leftovers in my flat.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 03:23:52 PM EST
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Not where non-vegs can afford meat.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 05:44:46 PM EST
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Next time do this:

Forget the stock and simmer your lentils and veggies in a bit of water with some herbs.  Then drain and let them cool and toss them with olive oil, red wine vinegar and feta.  Very yummy hot weather lentil salad.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 03:07:17 PM EST
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I can't eat cheese but it sounds nice.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 03:18:54 PM EST
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Tomi Putaansuu the leader of the Eurovision band Lordi, has been given a hectare plot for a house by his home town of Rovaniemi

He will, naturally, be taxed on the gift.

And in other interesting news, the band will be exchanging their Goth prosthetics with the new album to be released in October. I have never been within a block of them, but those who have say the stench of the current costumes is overpowering.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 02:46:41 PM EST
going through the hangover....

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 03:53:54 PM EST
They're growing pretty fast.  Here's Moog playing on his namesake:

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Arp's a bit camera shy:

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But he cooperated at last:

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Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 04:27:11 PM EST
Too cute!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 04:47:29 PM EST
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No I've got enough don't need more, even though i've always liked black ones, and that grey is just too beautiful


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 05:12:47 PM EST
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Hey!  We're not giving them away!

btw, I was shocked yours were a year -- has it really been that long?  Why, I remember when they were just little blurs on youtube...

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 05:25:35 PM EST
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they're now bigger blurs, in seven and a bit weeks it will be a year we've had them

but they were born a year ago

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 05:46:10 PM EST
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<waves from a hill overlooking paphos in Cyprus>

I'm at a wedding reception.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 04:50:07 PM EST
<waving back>

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 04:54:31 PM EST
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Which camera/s did you take?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 05:03:17 PM EST
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WTF?

Tsvangirai takes refuge in embassy - Mail & Guardian Online: The smart news source

Zimbabwe opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai, who has pulled out of a presidential run-off election because of violence, sought refuge overnight in the Dutch embassy, officials of that country said on Monday.

There was no immediate confirmation from Tsvangirai's Movement for Democratic Change (MDC). The Dutch Foreign Ministry said he had not requested asylum but was welcome to stay for his own security.

Earlier, the MDC said police raided its Harare headquarters and took away more than 60 victims of the violence, in which it says nearly 90 of its supporters have been killed by militias backing President Robert Mugabe. Those detained included women and children.

This is Zimbabwe

Hon. Thamsanqa Mahlangu, the MDC MP for Nkulumane constituency in Bulawayo and national youth chairman is battling for his life in intensive care unit after armed Zanu PF militia attacked him yesterday as he and other MDC youth were on their way to the Glamis Arena for a star rally.

Hon. Mahlangu was severely attacked by armed Zanu PF militia who had been dropped at the venue of the rally in army and police trucks. Over a thousand Zanu PF thugs were bussed to the venue.

by Nomad on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 06:38:55 PM EST
Wired: Photographer Documents Secret Satellites -- All 189 of Them

http://www.wired.com/culture/art/news/2008/06/secret_satellites


His shots of 189 secret spy satellites are the subject of a new exhibit -- despite the fact that, officially speaking, the satellites don't exist. The Other Night Sky, on display at the University of California at Berkeley Art Museum through September 14, is only a small selection from the 1,500 astrophotographs Paglen has taken thus far.



Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 at 06:55:59 PM EST
Missed this yesterday but i had just got the 3rd and 4th season of "The wire"... so i had to watch at least 3 episodes to get my fix.
by Torres on Tue Jun 24th, 2008 at 06:49:38 AM EST


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