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The Month of the Psychological Shock (Over Oil) in America?

by Luis de Sousa Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 03:58:45 AM EST

In a country largely turned into itself, a lone journalist tries to bring reality on oil prices above the daily roll of news bits on football results, jet-set gossip and political fait-divers.

On the 24th of May Jorge Nascimento Rodrigues published on the newspaper Expresso (the largest weekly publication in Portugal with 120 000 printings) what is one of the most direct addresses of Peak Oil ever featured in Portuguese media. Apparently written about the US this article is replete with messages for internal consumption.


This is a crosspost from TheOilDrum:Europe.

O mês do choque psicológico na América The month of the psychological shock in America
Três factos provocaram um primeiro safanão no cidadão americano: o preço do galão de gasolina, um documentário dramático da CNN e um aviso sobre um relatório que só sairá em Novembro. Three facts gave the first shake up on the American citizen: the price of a gallon of gasoline, a dramatic documentary on CNN and a warning on a report that will come out only in November.
O mês de Maio de 2008 vai ficar na história do cidadão comum americano como o momento do choque psicológico. Finalmente, o americano da rua deu-se conta - na bomba da gasolina, no sofá em frente da TV e na primeira página do seu mais importante jornal - que a era do petróleo barato acabou mesmo. The month of May of 2008 will remain in the history of the common American citizen has the moment of the psychological shock. Finally, the American in the street has perceived - at the filling station, on the couch in front of the TV and in the first page of his most important newspaper - that the age of cheap oil is really over.
Na bomba de gasolina, o automobilista americano surpreendeu-se com o galão (não confundir com o café com leite) a chegar aos 4 dólares e começou a entrar em pânico (apesar de, ao câmbio actual, ser, ainda, menos de metade do preço do litro em Portugal!). Pela primeira vez, começou a perceber que o impacto real do barril de crude acima dos 100 dólares (barreira que foi ultrapassada em Fevereiro deste ano) também lhe toca. At the filling station, the American driver was surprised by the gallon (not to confuse with coffee with milk [in Portuguese the word gallon has this alternative meaning]) reaching the price of 4 dollars and started panicking (in spite of, at the current exchange rate, being still half of the price in Portugal!). For the first he started to understand that the real impact of a barrel of oil over 100 dollars (barrier overcome in February of this year) also touches him.
Bush veio de mãos a abanar.

Bush came back empty handed.

Mustafa Kamal /EPA
CNN assusta com "Out of Gas"
A CNN passou um documentário de choque intitulado "Out of Gas" ficcionando uma crise dramática, económica, social e geopolítica, para o final de 2009, uma prenda envenenada para o próximo inquilino da Casa Branca. A poderosa estação televisiva abraçou o ponto de vista de que a alta do preço do barril tem razões estruturais (o famoso "pico da produção do petróleo" e a mudança na cena geopolítica com o fim provável do estatuto de "hegemonista sozinho" dos EUA) e não meramente conjunturais (sejam elas, acontecimentos fortuitos que sempre ocorrerão, como aconteceu agora com o terramoto na China, ou a "bolha" de especulação financeira nas "commodities").
CNN scares with "Out of Gas"
CNN broadcast a shock documentary entitled "Out of Gas" staging a dramatic crisis, economic, social and geo-political, by the end of 2009, a poisoned gift for the next White House lodger. The eminent broadcaster embraced the viewpoint that the high barrel prices have structural reasons (the famous "peak of oil production" and the change in the geopolitic scene with the likely end of the "lone hegemonist" status of the USA) and not merely circumstantial (might they be, fortuitous events that will always take place, as the earthquake that just happened in China, or the financial speculative "bubble" in commodities).
O diário 'Wall Street Journal' divulgou que a Agência Internacional de Energia irá rever, em Novembro, os seus prognósticos sobre a oferta futura de petróleo, especulando que a revisão será em baixa - o aumento progressivo de produção estimado estará muito abaixo de atingir o patamar dos 116 milhões de barris diários em 2030 (actualmente está nos 87). Ou seja, a agência embarcou, também, na corrente "pessimista", comenta o jornal. Apesar do "rascunho" do relatório ainda estar a ser teclado nos computadores com base na investigação nos 400 campos petrolíferos existentes, o efeito das suas prováveis conclusões estatísticas fez já tremer tanto os "traders" como o leitor mais ligado a estes temas. The daily paper "Wall Street Journal" revealed that the International Energy Agency will revise, in November, their forecasts on the future oil supply, speculating that the revision will be downwards - the progressive production growth foreseen will be far from reaching the [previous] threshold of 116 million barrels per day (presently at 87). In other words, the agency also embarked in the "pessimistic" current, the newspaper comments. Although the "draft" of the report is still being typed in computers, based on research on 400 existing oil fields, the effect of its probable statistic conclusions is already shaking traders and readers knowledgeable on these issues.
Mercado de futuros atacado pelo vírus do "contango"
O mês de Maio tem visto os noticiários televisivos e as manchetes "online" repetir diariamente que os "máximos históricos" foram ultrapassados, o que, de tanto ser repetido, já é uma banalidade.
Futures market attacked by the contango virus
The month of May has seen TV news programs and on-line headlines repeating daily that "record highs" have been surpassed, which, by so much repeating, is now a banality.
O acaso, ainda por cima, resolveu dar um empurrão negativo - o terramoto na China ocorreu numa região (Sichuan) que produz 22% do gás natural e que detém imensas barragens e estações eléctricas (396) e minas de carvão (no conjunto de Sichuan, Chongquing e Gansu há 22 minas importantes). Tudo está paralisado. To make things worse, fortune resolved to give a negative push - the earthquake in China in a region (Sichuan) that produces 22% of the [country's] natural gas and that holds a vast number of dams and electric stations (396) and coal mines (on the whole of Sichuan, Chongquing and Gansu there are 22 important mines). All is paralyzed.
Estima-se que, para além dos Jogos Olímpicos de Beijing, o efeito acumulado com esta paragem forçada provocada pelo terramoto naquelas regiões obrigará a um aumento excepcional da procura chinesa de crude. A situação é ainda mais dramática no campo dos destilados - o aumento da procura de gasóleo por parte da China deverá disparar justamente numa altura em que os "stocks" deste destilado são escassos face à procura, particularmente na Europa e na Ásia, alertou, esta semana, a Associação para o Estudo do Pico do Petróleo e do Gás (ASPO) dos Estados Unidos. It is estimated that, beyond the Beijing Olympic Games, the cumulative effect of this stall imposed by the earthquake in those regions will result in a exceptional increase of the Chinese demand for crude oil. The situation is even more dramatic for distillates - the increase in demand of diesel in China should shot up exactly in a time when stocks of this distillate are scarce to fulfil demand, particularly in Europe and Asia, alerted this week the Association for the Study of Peak Oil and Gas (ASPO) of the United States.
A questão fundamental é que o petróleo - como "commodity" não renovável que é - entrou desde 1999 numa nova fase da sua formação de preço, em que os constrangimentos estruturais da oferta determinarão que se comporte como um mercado liderado pelos vendedores (que poderão reforçar o seu papel de cartel) em que estes terão condições de impor os seus preços e as suas estratégias... até que a "commodity" em causa deixe de ser crítica em termos de consumo (nomeadamente para todo o sistema mundial de transportes). The fundamental question is that oil - as a non renewable commodity - entered in 1999 in a new phase of its price formation, in which structural supply constraints will determine the behaviour of a market lead by sellers (that could reinforce their role as a cartel) where they will have the power of imposing their prices and their strategies... until the commodity at cause stops being critical in consumption terms (namely for the whole world transport system).
Tudo indica que o preço do barril se consolidará no patamar dos 130 dólares durante o próximo mês e que a barreira dos 150 dólares poderá ser galgada no segundo semestre deste ano. A Goldman Sachs vaticinou, como média, 135 dólares no terceiro trimestre e 145 no último trimestre de 2008. All things considered, the price of a barrel of oil should consolidate its new grounds at 130 dollars during the next month and the 150 dollar threshold should be tackled in the second semester of this year. Goldman Sachs predicted, on average, 135 dollars for the third quarter and 145 in the last quarter of 2008.
Convém, o leitor ter em conta que o comportamento do preço desta mercadoria é oscilante - sobe de um modo "não linear", ou seja parece-se com um io-iô. O facto de estar hoje nos 130 dólares não significa que nas próximas semanas não possa descer, para depois retomar o patamar anterior, e disparar para cima. Tendo triplicado de preço nos últimos cinco anos, o preço do barril poderá continuar a ter uma subida de longo prazo similar, com várias oscilações mais ou menos pronunciadas. The reader should be aware that the price of this commodity behaves on an oscillating fashion - rises in a "non linear" way, meaning it is like a yo-yo. The fact it is today at 130 dollars doesn't mean that during the next weeks it can't go down, to later climb to the previous plateau and shoot up higher. Having tripled during the last five years, the price of a barrel should continue to have a similar long term rise, with several oscillations more or less pronounced.
Provavelmente mais técnico - e por isso menos óbvio para o leitor comum - é o facto do preço no mercado de futuros do crude ter entrado numa dinâmica de "contango" (uma corrupção dos termos continuação e contingência, um palavrão técnico inventado no século XIX em Inglaterra), ou seja, apresenta preços progressivamente mais altos do que os no mercado de entrega imediata (chamado de "spot"). O que significa que os "traders" já interiorizaram que o disparo dos preços veio para ficar. Possibly more technical - and therefore less obvious for the common reader - is the fact that crude prices in the futures markets have shifted to a dynamic of "contango" (a corruptive form of the terms continuity and contingency, a technical word invented in the XIX century in England), meaning, it presents higher prices that those at the market ready for immediate delivery (called "spot"). That means that traders have already perceived that price rises have come to stay.
O petróleo não vai nascer para todos
Apesar do marketing intenso (para efeitos de valorizações bolsistas ou ganhos de posição geopolítica) em torno de muitas novas descobertas de reservas petrolíferas, a questão crítica é a sua extracção, produção e destilação rentáveis. E, sobretudo, o seu efeito liquido na oferta global (ou seja, à medida que alguns são descobertos ou iniciam exploração, muitos outros poços vão ficando esgotados - o que conta é o saldo).
Oil will not rise for all
Although the intensive marketing (for effects of stock market gains or geopolitical positioning) around many new discoveries of oil reserves, the critical question is its commercial extraction, production and refining. And, above all, its net effect on global demand (as new reservoirs are discovered or start production, many other are becoming depleted - what matters is the balance).
Diversos estudos apontam para um facto incontornável - o pico de produção do petróleo poderá ocorrer antes de 2010 e, segundo as previsões mais optimistas, até 2025. A aproximação deste tecto provoca uma escalada altista, facto histórico já observável nos ciclos de outras "commodities" não-renováveis. O investigador Ugo Bardi, da Universidade de Florença, demonstrou um comportamento similar para o caso do óleo de baleia no século XIX. Several studies point to an unavoidable fact - the peak of world oil production can occur before 2010 and, according to the most optimistic forecasts, until 2025. The approach to this ceiling fosters a rise spiral, historical fact previously observed in cycles of other non-renewable commodities. The researcher Ugo Bardi, from the Florence University, has shown a similar behaviour in the case of whale oil in the XIX century.
O que o pico significa é que, numa fase imediatamente seguinte, a produção não chegará para o aumento muito superior da procura, até que o efeito dos preços altos contraia drasticamente a própria procura. Um "equilíbrio" entre oferta e procura será atingido - mas a um nível muito mais baixo, e sem que o preço da "commodity" baixe significativamente. O que é que isto significa? Que não haverá petróleo para todos e que não serão muitos os que terão dinheiro para o pagar! What the peak means is that, during an immediate following stage, production will not reach the much faster increase of demand, until the effect of high prices drastically contracts demand itself. An "equilibrium" between supply and demand will be met - but a at much lower level, and without a significant fall of the commodity's price. What does this mean? That oil will not be enough for all and not many will have the money to pay for it!
Não será de estranhar, por isso, que se generalize, nesta fase de ocaso, a prática da troca directa de petróleo por outros produtos sem intervenção de divisas - o que tecnicamente se chama de "barter", uma prática comercial típica de mercados com "rigidez" e em épocas de hiperinflação ou desvalorizações massivas. So it shouldn't be strange during this foreclosing stage a generalization of direct trade of oil for other goods, without the intervention of currency - what is technically named "barter", a commercial practice typical of "rigid" markets and during times of massive hyperinflation or devaluation.
O americano da rua deu-se conta que a era do petróleo barato acabou mesmo.

The American on the street realized that the cheap oil age is really over.

Don Ryan/AP
Ilusões de "intervenção" política
O mês de Maio assistiu nos Estados Unidos ao "ensaio" geral de todos os argumentos sobre a forma do poder político "intervir" na situação.
Illusions of political "intervention"
The month of May assisted in the United States to the "rehearsal" of all arguments on the way of politic power to "intervene" in the situation.
A Administração Bush foi ao Médio Oriente ver se "extraía" mais petróleo. Mas, em troca, recebeu uma promessa sem grande impacto (300 mil barris por dia da parte da Arábia Saudita), e uma contra-resposta do cartel dos produtores: de que a culpa era dos especuladores financeiros e da imposição de impostos elevados sobre os destilados pelos países consumidores. The Bush Administration went to the Middle East trying to "extract" more oil. But in return received a promise with little impact (300 thousand barrels per day from Saudi Arabia), and a counter-answer from the producers' cartel: that to blame are financial speculators and the high taxes imposed on refined products by consuming countries.
O cartel da OPEP não quer admitir publicamente que a sua galinha dos ovos de ouro atingiu um tecto e que, por isso, terá de gerir o que resta de um modo muito apertado. A intervenção militar para "regular" o assunto, também se mostra muito cara financeira e geopoliticamente (vide caso do Iraque), e sem grande impacto na oferta. Uma intervenção mais "soft", através da Organização Mundial do Comércio pressionando o cartel, esbarra com lacunas legais e dúvidas de eficácia. The OPEC cartel won't admit publicly that its golden eggs chicken has reached a ceiling and that it will have to manage what's left in a tight manner. The military intervention to "regulate" the issue has also shown very costly financially as geo-politically (e.g. Iraq's case) and without much impact on supply. A softer intervention through the World Trade Organization pressuring the cartel, stands against on legal holes e efficacy doubts.
Restam, por isso, os outros argumentos "domésticos" de emergência, muito esgrimidos na contenda das primárias das presidenciais norte-americanas. Therefore remain the other emergency "domestic" arguments, heavily exchanged in the primaries race for the presidential elections.
O efeito da especulação financeira é inferior a 15% do preço actual. E, mesmo que parasse, o impacto em baixa seria transitório, refere o investigador Pedro de Almeida, 49 anos, especialista nos mercados financeiros e de "commodities", professor na Universidade da Beira Interior. Mais: "Quaisquer medidas que se tomem contra os ditos especuladores financeiros apenas tenderão a reduzir a liquidez dos mercados mundiais de crude, limitando as possibilidades de utilização desses mercados para que os produtores e consumidores efectivos façam os seus negócios em boas condições", sublinha o investigador e consultor. Acresce, ainda, que face à tendência de declínio das bolsas e à desvalorização do dólar, os investidores encontram nas "commodities" uma zona de refúgio - é uma "lei de ferro" da finança. Não há política "voluntarista" que lhe valha. The effect of financial speculation is inferior to 15% of the actual price. And, even if it stopped, the downward impact would be transitory, says the researcher Pedro de Almeida, 49 years old, specialist in financial and commodities markets and professor at the Beira Interior University [Covilhã, Portugal]. More: "Any measures taken against the so called financial speculators will only tend to reduce the liquidity of the world's crude markets, limiting the possibilities of using those markets for the effective producers and consumers to do business in good conditions", underlines the researcher and consultant. Over that there's the tendency, in face of stock markets decline and dollar devaluation, for the investors to take refuge on commodities - an "iron law" of finance. There's no "voluntary" politics to help.
Devido à pressão política no Congresso dos Estados Unidos, a Administração Bush travou os fornecimentos adicionais de crude para a Reserva Estratégica de Petróleo dos Estados Unidos. Uma medida que não tem impacto significativo nos preços (como se está a observar), servindo apenas para "desdramatizar" a situação. E que poderá ser um erro estratégico desguarnecendo uma reserva que poderá ser vital para os EUA. Attending to the political pressure from Congress the Bush Administration halted additional supplies to the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. A measure that has no significant impact on prices (as can be observed) taken solely to "de-dramatize" the situation. And that could be a strategic error degarnishing a reserve that could be vital for the US.
Finalmente, o discurso dos impostos sobre os combustíveis. Jack Nilles, o "pai" do teletrabalho, foi dos poucos gurus americanos que teve a coragem de ir contra a corrente, e de fazer uma afirmação politicamente incorrecta. Afirmou explicitamente que realizar uma isenção populista de impostos na gasolina, durante as férias por exemplo, é um erro estratégico que só atrasa o necessário incentivo à reconversão urgente (e inevitável) do sistema de transportes norte-americano. Pedro de Almeida, por seu lado, refere: "Os Estados Unidos terão dificuldade em reduzir ainda mais os impostos numa conjuntura de défices públicos. São ideias que passam bem nos votantes, mas só defensáveis por políticos inconscientes, que comprometerão ainda mais a evolução futura da economia americana". Finally, the discourse on fuel taxes. Jack Nilles, the "father" of telecommuting, was one of the few American gurus to have the courage to go against the flow, making a politically incorrect address. He affirmed explicitly that proceeding with a populist exemption on gasoline taxes, during holidays for instance, is a strategic mistake that only delays the necessary incentive for the urgent (and inevitable) reconversion of the north-American transport system. Pedro de Almeida, in his turn, adds: "The United States will have difficulties in reducing taxes even further, in face of public deficits. These are ideas, that go well with the electors, but can only be put forward by unconscious politicians, that will compromise even more the future evolution of the American economy".
Paradoxalmente, é provável que uma reversão da política da Reserva Federal (FED) - que continua a insistir em manter taxas de juro negativas (ou seja, que empresta o dinheiro aos bancos a um juro muito inferior à inflação, obrigando os contribuintes a pagar esse subsídio encoberto à alta finança) - "trave", a partir de certo ponto, a espiral dos preços do petróleo. Luis de Sousa, outro especialista em petróleo, e membro da ASPO portuguesa, comenta: "Antes de se chegar a valores astronómicos do barril, é provável que haja uma intervenção monetária no sentido da que Paul Volcker [presidente da FED entre 1979 e 1987] fez em 1982". Paradoxically, it is probable that a reversal of the Federal Reserve (FED) politics - that insists in keeping negative interest rates (borrowing money to banks at a rate below inflation, forcing tax payers to pay that covert subsidy to the high finance) - steps on the brakes, after a certain point, of the crude price spiral. Luís de Sousa, another oil specialist, and member of the Portuguese ASPO, comments: "Before reaching astronomical barrel prices it is probable that a monetary intervention takes place, in similar sense to that Paul Volcker (FED's president from 1979 to 1987) made in 1982".
Jorge Nascimento Rodrigues got a degree in Economics in the 1970s and started collaborating with Expresso in 1983, since then founding several magazines and e-zines. Beyond Expresso he also collaborates with the EuroAsia Journal of Management (in China) and is co-ordinator of the Revista Portuguesa e Brasileira de Gestão (Brasilian and Portuguese Management Magazine). Author of several books, he is also the editor of www.gurusonline.tv and www.janelanaweb.com.

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When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 06:01:15 AM EST
a strategic error degarnishing a reserve

unprotecting?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 06:12:06 AM EST
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Degarnishing is ok, eminent is not.

Thanks.

luis_de_sousa@mastodon.social

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]protonmail[dot]ch) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 08:22:04 AM EST
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In what dictionary does poderosa translate as imminent?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 08:23:59 AM EST
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... its not a common word. It means literally what those definitions give ... stripping a house of its furnishings or stripping a garrison of hits troops.

For a commodity stockpile, "stripping" or, if the phrasing is over-dramatic in the original and you want to convey that, "looting", would be clearer.

Of course, on the substantial point, halting purchases for the stockpile is not the same as stripping the stockpile. If there was a mechanical trigger to halt purchases when current prices were more than a certain percentage over the three year running average price, obviously that trigger would have tripped well before the decision was made to halt purchases.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 10:01:29 PM EST
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emptying?
by Xavier in Paris on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 08:24:54 AM EST
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It's interesting isn't it ? I mean, little of this is a surprise to us here thanks particularly to JaP's informative essays on the subject from practically the founding of the site.

But I have begun to question why none of this reached the tradmed in any shape or form. I can possibly understand, but not excuse, the fact that a lot of warnings about sub-Prime that were all over the blogs in the year or two before the wheels came off, but the situation with oil was much more clear cut and there was plenty of evidence that something was badly amiss.

Maybe it's another aspect of the fact that journalists don't talk to experts. A classic example is when the NYT had an article about some muslims declaring Obama an apostate. No experts in islamic law were consulted, heck no muslims were consulted, but the journalist wrote the story based on some right-wing truthiness. When genuine islamic scholars were outraged by the idocy and ignorance of the piece, they were informed that senior editors had consulted the qu'ran and thought it was okay.

Christians flicked through the qu'ran and felt that was sufficient fact-checking on an article hingeing on interpretations of islamic practice developed over hundreds of years. It's the self-referential arroagance. Journos have abrogated to themselves the ability to be instant experts on anything, just quickly read up google and wikipedia and they can write what they like.

No wonder they write such drivel about science and economics. And energy. Not only do they not know what they're talking about, they believe there is nothing to be gained by talking to those who do.

So, now, suddenly peak oil is news and everybody's an expert. Where were they a year ago ? andmore to the point, what story are they missing catching up with yesterday ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 09:24:22 AM EST
Typo?
by Magnifico on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 12:30:51 PM EST
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No, it was a right-wing hit piece of Obama (with a B). Yup, it was that mad.

I wish I could find the citation, but it was a fortnight ago.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 01:46:43 PM EST
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I just googled up this...

Jihad Watch: Barack Obama and Islamic apostasy (February 12, 2007)

It is certainly true that Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, ordered that apostates from Islam be put to death. Although this is frequently denied, his statement "Whoever changes his religion, kill him" (من بدل دينه فاقتلوه) appears in numerous authoritative Islamic sources, including Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi, Abu Dawud, Ibn Majah, An-Nasai, the Muwatta of Imam Malik, Tayalisi, Ibn Hanbal, Ibn Hibban, the Sunan al-Kubraa, Bayhaqi, Abu Ya'laa, Humaidi, Abd al-Razzaq, and Ibn Abi Shaybah.

Western Muslims who claim that this is not Islamic law are often hailed as moderates and reformers. This, however, ignores the fundamental difference between denial and reform. If the Protestant Reformers had simply begun indignantly denying that the Catholic Church taught Transubstantiation and the sacramental priesthood, instead of arguing that such doctrines should be discarded, they would not have been reformers, but obfuscators. A genuine Islamic reformer today would acknowledge that the death penalty for apostasy is mainstream Islamic teaching, affirmed by all the madhahib, or schools of jurisprudence, and then explain why this should be set aside. But that is not the same thing as claiming that Islam doesn't teach this in the first place.

So is Obama under a death sentence? Probably not. As far as I know Obama has never explained when he left Islam and became a Christian. This is a crucial point, for according to Islamic law an apostate male is not to be put to death if he has not reached puberty (cf. 'Umdat al-Salik o8.2; Hidayah vol. II p. 246). Some, however, hold that he should be imprisoned until he is of age and then "invited" to accept Islam, but officially the death penalty for youthful apostates is ruled out.

It quotes an AP interview.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 01:59:41 PM EST
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But I have begun to question why none of this reached the tradmed in any shape or form. I can possibly understand, but not excuse, the fact that a lot of warnings about sub-Prime that were all over the blogs in the year or two before the wheels came off, but the situation with oil was much more clear cut and there was plenty of evidence that something was badly amiss.

This is a tradition in the USA.  I remember seeing almost everything that eventually came out in the Watergate investigations raised in a series of reports from the Washington Post in the summer before the '72 elections.  Every one of them sank like a stone, but with no ripples, as the water was moving quickly.  And I thought I had calibrated my bullshit detector during the Vietnam War in the 60s!

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 10:49:27 PM EST
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... involves what?

In the era of "he said, she said" reporting that avoids actually reporting unpleasent things like facts unless there is someone in a position of authority to state them ... and repeats quasi-facts so long as there is someone in a position of authority to state them ... its a public fight between people in positions of power.

So long as they were prepared to ignore the story, the press complied, and so long as the story was not covered, people in a position of authority could get away with ignoring the story.


I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 07:32:03 PM EST
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So long as they were prepared to ignore the story, the press complied, and so long as the story was not covered, people in a position of authority could get away with ignoring the story.

What I found astounding was that the "they" apparently included outspoken critics of Nixon in a U.S. House of Representatives that was very substantially Democratic in composition. I was a highly interested observer of U.S. politics at the time, but certainly not a student of the period.  Perhaps "they" correctly assessed the situation and concluded that it would be bad tactically to begin investigations during an election when Republican support would be vital for a sucessful outcome.

I can only hope that the results will be similar this time with regards to justifications for the Iraq War, etc. But I hadn't intended to hijack the thread.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 10:12:28 PM EST
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... of course going to be affected by the fact that the coverage could well be, "unable to respond to the policy successes of Nixon in China and in Environmental Protection, a group of Congressmen are trying to turn the events at the Watergate into a campaign issue"

After all, "He said / she said" reporting does not mean giving fair coverage to what both sides say ... its about ducking responsibility for reporting with the pretence to fair coverage to what "both sides" say.

But Peak Oil is even easier than the Watergate ... where the Democratic House took a watching brief until the story finally caught fire. "Both sides" include one side entirely in the pocket of the fossil fuel lobby and a second side with large numbers in the pockets of the fossil fuel lobby, and with the most immediate response to Peak Oil being to invest in the harvesting of renewable energy resources, which will then compete with fossil fuels in the marketplace, there is every reason to just pretend in public its not happening ...

... even for those oil companies whose strategies clearly include a substantial recognition that it may well be.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 11:49:58 PM EST
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it is probable that a monetary intervention takes place, in similar sense to that Paul Volcker (FED's president from 1979 to 1987) made in 1982".

Come the day!  This will have no effect on the supply, but it would increase the value of the dollar and therefore decrease the dollar price/gallon.

I believe it was Randall Forsythe in Barron's back in late February or March who observed that the Fed had the choice of saving the banks and sacrificing the economy or of saving the economy and sacrificing the banks and that it was clear that they had chosen to save the banks.  They circled the wagons to protect their own and to Hell with the rest of us.  The only question is: with this bunch of looters why would anyone expect anything else?

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Wed Jun 4th, 2008 at 10:43:42 PM EST
See Euthanize Wall Street to save the economy by NBBooks on April 18th, 2008.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 02:33:04 AM EST
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Mig,

Is there a way I can step through the home pages of other users so as to look for an imperfectly remembered diary? A member index? A diary index? Being able to look through a list of diary titles in a given month or week would be helpful.  Being able to go directly to the home page of a member from a list would also be helpful.

At present, I can access home pages only by clicking on the user name on a comment or diary.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 02:49:13 PM EST
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If you click on "Search" in the "Menu" box (normally top right), you get the searcdh interface. With a pull-down menu, you can select dsifferent searches, including diaries by author handle same for frontpager stories, and comments. Or, alternatively, a search term in all diaries/FP stories/commnts. If you enter no search term at all, you can get a list of all diaries.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 02:58:07 PM EST
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Thanks.  I had viewed that search feature but didn't think of some of the approaches you suggest.  I am used to looking through tables of content, index and bibliography.  Sometimes I remember a Diary title, usually not fully, sometimes not at all, but I could pick it out of a list.  Same for tags.  I'll just have to noodle around.  My biggest problem is when I remember who posted something, but they haven't posted recently.  I have no easy way to get to their homepage.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 04:11:18 PM EST
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One thing I forgot to note: there is a checkbox for Archive search. Diaries (and their comments) older than 1 month are archived. If you check the checkbox, the search is only in the archive, if you don't check it, then only in the active diaries. (Search is not the most user-friendly feature of SCOOP, I hope we can do better in an upgrade of ET.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Jun 6th, 2008 at 03:33:22 AM EST
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Thanks.  I am one of those benighted individuals, who, if there is a way, especially with software, I will screw it up.  At least I haven't been able inadvertently to crash they system, yet.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Jun 7th, 2008 at 06:06:57 PM EST
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I think all the "homepages" have the same url format:

http://www.eurotrib.com/user/(username)/diary

Google works too.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 03:00:05 PM EST
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Thanks, that works great when I remember the username.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 04:14:59 PM EST
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Can one you smart people explain to me why

-- in 2000, 1 barrel = $60 or 72 euros at the then exgange rate of $1 = 1.2 euros, and the price at the pump was 0.82 euros/liter

-- and in 2008, 1 barrel = $110 or 70.40 euros at the exchange rate of $1 = 0.64 euros, and the price at the pump which should be the same or even lower is 1.28 euro/liter ?

Seriously.

by Lupin on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 02:40:11 AM EST
Possibly because a lot of international transactions in gas and distilled petroleum products (gasoline and diesel) are priced off oil futures.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 02:43:47 AM EST
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In 2000 oil prices briefly topped 30$ per barrel, but where never even close to 40$.

Check DoDo's post on 70€ per barrel.

luis_de_sousa@mastodon.social

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]protonmail[dot]ch) on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 03:31:44 AM EST
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Because the price at the pump is not fixed by competition to the lowest price, but as a sort of social negotiation. If there is noise in the media about oil rising, the price will be raised ; but if there is no noise that oil or $ is going down, no real reason to drop prices.

Also, in France in 2000 there was the "floating TIPP" which means that the tax was going down if gas prices went too high. Most probable reason.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 05:33:09 AM EST
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in 2000, 1 barrel = $60

To which I can only say, huh? $60 was reached for the first time on 23 June 2005.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Jun 5th, 2008 at 11:16:29 AM EST
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