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Friday Photography Blog No.51

by In Wales Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 02:43:06 AM EST

Jumping straight into this week's theme we have afew battling it out with a mountain bear.

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The blog is in three parts this week - one for "Ask the Expert" about anything you like, composition, technical things and so on.


Second is "Animals", since various kittens have made an appearance this week and I have a multitude of photos from my recent stint as a puppy sitter.


The usual final part is for "Photos As Usual", whatever you want to post.

Please try to keep to 600 pixels width and less than 100kb in file size and take a look at Wednesday Photography Blog No.2 for the technical bits on how to post.

Here is the Master list of previous photoblogs.



Please enjoy!

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"Ask the Expert"

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 02:39:40 AM EST
Booman Tribune ~ A Progressive Community
Welcome to Friday Foto Flogging, a place to share your photos and photography news. We were inspired by the folks at European Tribune who post a regular Friday Photoblog series to try the same on this side of the virtual Atlantic. We also thought foto folks would enjoy seeing some other websites so each week we'll introduce a different photo website.

They have some nice pictures too.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 04:02:40 AM EST
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Oh how cool is that?!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 04:48:37 AM EST
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Just for fun...experts...how was this effect created?

by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 04:47:04 AM EST
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(Any tips for improvement welcome as usual, of course!)
by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 04:48:11 AM EST
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An arty blurry, colour filter on photoshop?  Or did you sneeze as you took the photo?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 04:49:14 AM EST
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Neither. :)
by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 04:50:14 AM EST
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Was it done at the time you took the shot or processed?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 04:59:29 AM EST
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At the time of the shot.
by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 05:05:44 AM EST
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Creative filter?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 05:13:04 AM EST
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I suppose you could say that.

Not a commercial one, though.

by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 05:26:30 AM EST
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Sweet wrapper?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 05:44:30 AM EST
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Great idea!  Not right, though...
by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 05:52:46 AM EST
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Then I'm out of ideas!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 08:21:12 AM EST
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You've narrowed the field immensely.

I'll leave it a bit and see if anyone else has any ideas.

by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 08:24:08 AM EST
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A random chunk of glass?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:22:28 PM EST
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I'm going to say yes to that!  :)

Do you have any sources of glass in mind?

by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:33:55 PM EST
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A bottle?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:46:44 PM EST
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Not a bottle.  But another common source.
by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:48:12 PM EST
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I'd say maybe glasses? Or a wonky window.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:53:16 PM EST
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Hooray!

It was taken through...a four hundred year old window.

:)

by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:56:11 PM EST
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Doh, too easy!

I had thought of this and dismissed it out of hand....

by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:59:20 PM EST
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I'm a simple soul, gioele  :)
by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 02:03:19 PM EST
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Water on the uv filter?
by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 11:58:39 AM EST
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Another good guess.  But still no  :)
by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 12:29:04 PM EST
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OK,, then turning the camera rapidly one direction and then the other around the lens axis?
by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:04:53 PM EST
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Interesting idea.  No.......
by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:19:11 PM EST
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Through a hole in a piece of card stock? Like looking at a projection of an eclipse? Could that explain an in focus center and the diffuse edges?
by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:21:01 PM EST
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I don't know if it could or not.  Can anyone help out with that?

So, I'm sorry...still no...

by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:24:41 PM EST
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I have a lens baby that would give that kind of effect with a sweet spot that is in focus. But we've been told it isn't a commercial type thing that has created the effect...
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:28:34 PM EST
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I have a lens baby that would give that kind of effect

?

What's a lens baby. I'm assuming that is, that you didn't mean 'I have a lens, baby, that...' - that doesn't seem to be your commenting style.

by MarekNYC on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:36:11 PM EST
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Love it when she calls me baby!  ;-)
by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:40:50 PM EST
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Luv ya, baby!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:45:45 PM EST
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;-)
by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 02:00:43 PM EST
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Yeah Baby!  It is one these.

It is a lens that you can bend around which gives a sweet spot with blurring around the edges.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:44:50 PM EST
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Does anyone know of any good links to colour theory for photography?  I'm finding it hard to pin down what is meant to be harmonious/complimentary/contrasting or what combinations equate to what.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 02:00:49 PM EST
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Primary colours are red, blue and yellow.
Secondary are orange, green and violet.

Complementary colours are opposite each other on the colour wheel eg Red and Green, Orange and Blue, Violet and Yellow.

Similar colours are near each other on the colour wheel eg yellow and orange, red and orange, blue and green.

Contrasting colours are a third apart on the colour wheel eg RYB, orange, green and violet.

Colour accents are when small bits of colour are used in a photo such as a small patch of red in a large area of green.

Anything to add to that?

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 03:35:56 PM EST
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It is as wide as it is deep. There are lots of theories that in one way are scientific - that we can know the frequency of photons hitting the retina, on the basis of the reflective nature of the atoms they bounce off. That is, nothing has a colour in fact, colour is perceptual. Colour is how your retinae (part of the your brain) have learned to interpret the different frequencies of photons hitting them.

And how you interpreted them is an accumulation of that very noisy synesthetic experience called learning.

But we can certainly  measure the photon frequency, scientifically. Just as we can measure the periodic nature of sound waves. or the temperature of objects touching nerve cells in the forearm. We can make broad empirical assumptions about how these metrics are understood in any brain. But they are only assumptions. We cannot see with the UV heavy sight of bees. We cannot see with the acuity of an eagle. And we certainly cannot see the same way bats see, though 'see' they do in the synesthetic sense...

Or then we see nothing, not even the measurements, because they are part of the same experiential process.

That is the great conundrum. What do we see that we can share?

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 03:57:20 PM EST
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I'm trying to do some homework.  I know what I like and what appeals to me in photos, colour wise.  But it doesn't easily match what the course materials say should work.  So I have given up and I'm just picking the combinations I like and seeing if I can squeeze them into some category or another.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 04:32:31 PM EST
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Funnily enough for a so-called documentary cinematographer, I agree with you. Being an artist is as much as discovering yourself, as about communicating. The problem always lies within the audiences!!!

When you are creating you use a lot of intuition - it feels right. There is no identifiable reason.

But the problem with audiences is that they think their job is to interpret the artist's message. The artist's intuition can never be explained, just as the 'sense' of the 'Point Man' in a vietnamese jungle could never be analyzed. The Point Man was the platoon guy who went first through the jungle on patrol. He could get shot first, but he could save his companions with an intuitive sense of an alien environment. To me, this is what an artist is.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 04:53:49 PM EST
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What I meant to add, was that the artists' 'intended' interpretation is just one of the possible meanings.

Any interpretation is valid.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:01:22 PM EST
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That's a topic for a whole other diary!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:48:57 PM EST
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That requires me to put on a very dusty cap Or deny that I ever wore that cap ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 06:00:04 PM EST
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But I will just add that I think a definition of art is just that - that it requires an onlooker to be in 'dialogue' with it. The principal dialogue is between the artist and own sense of self. Art is self-discovery. It is not about selling a message (even though most of the high priests would have you believe otherwise).

The observer's dialogue is with that sense of discovery, and, in doing so, discovering themselves, and the languages that they use to mould the reality around them into something they, as an individual, can deal with.

Great art imo - even the photographically figurative - is about the spaces between different ideas and different world views. These spaces are what the onlooker fills in - trying to connect up the pieces in a microcosmic logic.

To realise, as one does with the space between a joke and a punchline, that the pieces cannot be joined together in a logical way because there are two sets of meanings - two frames that will never fit together in a perfect world. That's why we laugh at a joke or ponder a painting or drift in and out of the images of poetry. We are happy to realise that we are imperfect - we've been 'fooled'. We live in an imperfect personal world and need to accept it as it is.

The old analogue sound recording process involved passing a tape across a magnet, or 'head'. In recording, the metal particles in the substrate of the tape were rearranged by the fluctuations in the magnetic field of the head caused by variations of the electricity supplied to the magnet. Playing back was the reversal of the process, with the arrangement of the metal particles disturbing the magnetic field in the head. In other words the head was needed to translate fields into arrangement and vice versa. This has always seemed to me to be symbolic of the 'old' art process - both for the artist and the onlooker.

The endless perfect replication of everything in digital format has changed all this. I am not sure what that will mean to our accommodation of sensory experience in the future. But it's doing something!

I have said too much <gets back in cage>

 

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Sep 9th, 2008 at 07:56:48 AM EST
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"Animals"

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 02:40:01 AM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 02:44:32 AM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 02:45:39 AM EST
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Taken after an attack on my shoelaces.

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During an attack on a wooden toy snake.
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Just too cute!
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 02:48:32 AM EST
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So cute!

:)

by olivia on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 06:10:50 PM EST
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You wouldn't think he had such sharp teeth, would you?!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 06:18:03 PM EST
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Puppy sharp too I bet ... but no, looks too cute and innocent in these photos ... :D
by olivia on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 06:21:19 PM EST
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Family dog as puppy:

Family dog last year:

More local animals. I called him Smiley:

by Nomad on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 07:02:10 AM EST
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They are both gorgeous!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 07:08:36 AM EST
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That there bear up there shakes its jowls and projects jets of slobber all around, which is why I'm nor getting too close.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 04:38:17 PM EST
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Do you notice the knife in your other hand?!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 04:49:29 PM EST
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You've given the game away. Now everyone knows how I kill bears.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 01:50:54 AM EST
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...in a Cambridgeshire field.

by Sassafras on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 04:54:05 PM EST
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Wow!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 05:35:49 PM EST
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Beautiful!

Also your other pictures are great.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 02:22:01 AM EST
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Double wow!

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 11:23:50 AM EST
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by Sassafras on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 04:55:33 PM EST
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Nice shot! Did it take many attempts?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 05:36:56 PM EST
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That day, no.

However, I have rather a lot of unusable shots from other days..  :)

by Sassafras on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 06:07:33 PM EST
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Grey seals on the Lincolnshire coast.
by Sassafras on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 04:56:39 PM EST
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by Sassafras on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 04:58:15 PM EST
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by Sassafras on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 04:59:08 PM EST
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by Sassafras on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 05:00:00 PM EST
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7

Smell something?

by Torres on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 06:37:40 PM EST
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That's excellent!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 07:35:46 PM EST
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Is that you bro?

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 11:44:05 PM EST
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A visitor for lunch today.

I spotted a young hedgehog on his way to raid the (ground level) bird "table".

He appreciated the remains of the cat's breakfast  :)

by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 07:05:28 AM EST
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Great photo.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 08:12:07 AM EST
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Seagulls near Lisbon

by amanda2006 on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 06:36:42 AM EST
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Really lovely :)
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 06:44:59 AM EST
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Thanks, In Walles. I've learnt a lot reading the Friday Photography Blog. I think I'll post more often ;-)
by amanda2006 on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 07:00:38 AM EST
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I hope you will post more often!  I really like the butterfly too.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 07:02:19 AM EST
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You're back!

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 06:59:07 AM EST
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I never left, actually ;-)
by amanda2006 on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 07:02:12 AM EST
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Is good to hear from you!  Can you escape to Paris?  It would be really great to see you again.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 04:18:22 PM EST
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Hi, metavision!!! I would like it very much, but the 20th is my mother's 85 birthday and it's going to be a big family celebration. But now, with the AVE, it's easier to travel between Madrid and Barcelona. Or we can meet midway...
by amanda2006 on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:43:35 PM EST
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At the Botanical Garden, Lisbon

by amanda2006 on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 06:58:26 AM EST
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"Photos As Usual"
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 02:40:18 AM EST
I wasn't sure if these should go in the animal section or not.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 02:42:40 AM EST
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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 02:00:13 PM EST
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lol! Is that where the Amsterdam airport cow has it's origins?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 02:21:11 PM EST
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I have tried to googe the origins of these cows, but was not able to find out.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 02:23:51 AM EST
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I don't know where they come from but I remember that at some point either late in high school or early college they seemed to be all over downtown Geneva.
by MarekNYC on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 02:52:49 AM EST
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Is it a Cow Parade, Fran?
by Sassafras on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 05:01:31 PM EST
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by Sassafras on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 05:24:47 PM EST
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Great, there seems to be a real cowmania.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 02:23:01 AM EST
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For a while, these cows seemed to be stalking me.

They were the absolute (and completely unexpected) highlight of the visit for the children when we went to Prague.  And then Manchester.

They were so excited when they saw the Cow Parade banners in Istanbul-but there were no cows anywhere and the tourist information office could tell us nothing.

This picture was taken on our last morning, when we went for one final walk (and simit!) and discovered cows had sprung up in the night!

Looks like the next Cow Parade will be in Madrid.

I hope somebody will take pictures for us (hint).  :)

by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 04:13:24 AM EST
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Thanks, for the information Sassafras! I must admit to my ignorance and not knowing about the cow parade. Now, that you mention it, I seem to remember seeing cows in Paris after meeting, but can not find the pictures. :-(
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 04:42:45 AM EST
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My Prague and Manchester cows (and photographs of bears in Berlin) aren't digital.  The best are in an album and are probably stuck down beyond retrieval for scanning...
by Sassafras on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 04:53:20 AM EST
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I get the drift, but the page for the Madrid parade doesn´t open for me.  If you see the dates, please let me know and I´ll do it.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 04:19:11 PM EST
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Sort of, it is an exhibition at a highway restaurant, which has been there for many years, with ever changing cows.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 02:24:57 AM EST
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Late August in the Pyrenees.

From Esther- ne pas effacer


Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 03:30:23 AM EST
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From Esther- ne pas effacer


Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 03:41:09 AM EST
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I like the sharpened version.
by olivia on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 06:16:08 PM EST
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From Esther- ne pas effacer


Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 04:24:02 AM EST
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Nice!

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 11:43:26 PM EST
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From Esther- ne pas effacer


Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 05:02:37 AM EST
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From Esther- ne pas effacer


Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 06:45:05 AM EST
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From Misc-Do not delete-3

From Misc-Do not delete-3

From Misc-Do not delete-3


Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 06:55:10 AM EST
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The above three were taken with my 50mm lens; I hardly use it so I was just playing.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 06:58:33 AM EST
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They look sharp.  I always have too narrow depth of field when I use my 50mm. Usually because it is in low light conditions so I need the small f number.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 07:08:14 AM EST
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I sharpened the first two with Picasa's sharpening tool. The third looked too sharp so I left it alone.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 09:11:11 AM EST
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I need to learn how to sharpen using photoshop.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 06:43:23 PM EST
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Filter/sharpen/unsharp mask on mine...

No, I didn't find it right away...

by Sassafras on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 06:58:28 PM EST
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My friend's kid:

Some more from my weekend trip here.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 11:40:16 AM EST
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Clouds, Department of Seine et Marne (77)

From Misc-Do not delete-3


Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 12:02:24 PM EST
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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 04:24:38 PM EST
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Oh! My local Carrefour!
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 04:36:29 PM EST
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This should be published as a double spread....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 05:18:36 PM EST
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We took a small vacation (overnight) to the Island of Ciudad del Carmen yesterday and today. Along the way I tried to snap a few quick photos as the car whizzed along.  Not too successful.  I finally set the focus at infinity and shot these two panoramas of the River Grijalva near its mouth at Frontera, Tabasco, MX.


This is actually of the river/Gulf port of Frontera. As can be seen the river looks to be near flood stage.  The vegetation floating in it is always there.  Someone said it's hyacinth, but I'm not so sure.


Looking towards the mouth with the town on the right.  A rather impressive river at this point.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 11:29:39 PM EST
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One of the restoration projects I'm working on at the moment.  This old black and white (approx. 11"x14") was in pretty bad shape and the print paper was the textured type that makes it difficult to scan.


The Before


The work-in-progress version.  I haven't decided on colors - these are temporary and easily changed or reverted to B&W - or the background with its walking out of a frame look.  In general, it still needs work here and there, especially the eyes and the dress. Arrg, I'm never happy.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 at 11:41:37 PM EST
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It looks good to me. It's an interesting photo, when was it taken do you know?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 02:49:55 AM EST
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I don't really know when it was taken, but my best guess would be about 40-50 years ago. I haven't spoken to the owner.  She (subject's mother) dropped it off last summer and said she was in no hurry to have it done as long as it was completed before she died! I usually convert B&W portraits to color here in Mexico because everyone prefers it.  In think it's a cultural thing about seeing a loved one as they were in real life. However, because I don't know the lady, I had to guess all the colors including hair and skin tone.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 10:48:25 AM EST
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I remember you showing us some before.  The colouring reminds me slightly of the work of Jan Saudek - a Czech photographer who I first 'found' in Prague but I was already familiar with one of his pieces since it was the cover of a Soul Asylum album.  

btw most of the photos through the link are not safe for work.  He's very controversial but I find his work extremely interesting.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 11:01:57 AM EST
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I see what you mean. It looks like he used a desaturated background and added the figures with different lighting and maybe a little color for the foreground.

I separated the girl from the original b&w background and then used a couple of 50% grey layers with patterns in between the two to darken and de-emphasize the background. The background, as it was, was too distracting with too many people and even leaves growing out of the girl's head.  So, I toyed with the idea of using a typical studio background (digitally created). In the end I decided just to retain some of the original background, as a remembrance of the setting, but to update the portrait in time by using color and the frame effect. Hope she likes it. Not something everyone has.

 The next step will be to finalize colors (not fond of the yellow duck purse - maybe it should be white.) Maybe the dress should be a different color also, and that gap in the lower right tail of the dress should probably be filled in. Too much contrast in the facial features also.  The eyes are the soul of a portrait and these lack detail.  If the lady has another photo with better eyes, I could replace them and make her face come to life.  I've been known to discretely use eyes borrowed from someone else. See, it just never ends!

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 06:05:54 PM EST
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I've seen that same photo as B&W - I think it is all done with film and then colours added during the processing. Not sure how though.

Amazing what you can achieve with computer wizardry!  I like the fact that the real background is still there, and it looks a bit like she is stepping out of it.  Maybe a cream/ivory colour would be better for the purse?

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 05:19:40 AM EST
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Good idea for purse color.  It looked white in the original but with all the lace being white, the purse was kind of lost. One of the challenges with some of these older prints is figuring out what everything is supposed to be. Color helps separate things especially if the print isn't all that sharp or has damage.

Yes, I think all of this can be achieved in the traditional darkroom with tinting or after printing by handcoloring using Marshall's photo oils. I had considered hand painting on B&W print paper myself until I discovered Photoshop. Using oils is still of interest but I don't have the time for both.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 11:05:59 AM EST
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I am not sure that adding colours and accents, that you do not know existed at the time of the photograph, are relevant for documentary reality - whatever that is.

I am kind of in this very weak position that says 'Give me your poor, underexposed or illiterately framed photographs and I will make of them as I will - but give me a photoshopped version that dabbles in anything more than contrast, colour saturation or colour cast, and I'm prepared with all sorts of barriers to accepting your image.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 06:11:47 PM EST
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Yesterday's récolte from my modest container garden. [I let this batch of green beans go too far, but they're still good, steamed]

Tomatoes, alpine strawberries, eggplant and various herbs, parsley, sage, thyme, basil.

Yet to fall into the basket are figs and 'piments pigeon' [small hot peppers].

This is what is keeping me sane as I contend with an undue series of hard drive failures ...

by Loefing on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 09:05:20 AM EST
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Yum!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 10:22:42 AM EST
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in a rather long time. Love to hear your comments/additions to my garden diaries.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Sat Sep 6th, 2008 at 11:32:41 AM EST
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Nice, Paul. Thanks.

I've missed posting, here, and most particularly to your enticing garden diaries [which I've perused in haste], but my "boss" keeps telling me I don't have time for it.

Been living 6 months or so between two continents, during which time Murphey's Law has tended to prevail.

Tho, according to my calculations, I'll be a freer and more serene person by the beginning of next year.

Can't wait! :-))

by Loefing on Mon Sep 8th, 2008 at 06:10:39 AM EST
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I had to join up to come over & see what "across the ponders" are doing on their Photoblog Phriday".
I`m of the same username on the Green version.
Seems like there`s a call for more comments on the FotoFlogging Friday, to try & keep up with your comment #`s.
You`re all invited over to see the images there.
I`m very impressed with the great stuff here.
This is a little breath of fresh air blowing your way.
DSCN1231

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by Knucklehead on Sun Sep 7th, 2008 at 09:04:49 PM EST
That must have been a hard shot to catch! Impressive.  We'll have to come over and say hi to all of you on Fridays! Our comment numbers vary from week to week. Sometimes we have well over 100, sometime barely 50.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Sep 8th, 2008 at 03:11:02 AM EST
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I find the hummingbirds to be the easiest ones to shoot actually. They seem to be quite fearless & will allow you to get in close quarters.
Then when they`re used to you, they hover long enough to be shot.
 My trick is to pre-focus on where I know they`ll be, (at the feeder) & wait
They do get used to you.
I have many shots of the two species of hummingbirds that inhabit the same geological space I do.
Thank you for noticing this little female Anna`s Hummingbird.
 

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by Knucklehead on Mon Sep 8th, 2008 at 10:11:36 AM EST
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