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1868 – Birth of Alexandra David-Néel, a French explorer, anarchist, spiritualist, Buddhist and writer, most known for her visit to Lhasa, Tibet, in 1924, when it was forbidden to foreigners. David-Néel wrote over 30 books about Eastern religion, philosophy, and her travels. (d. 1969)

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*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 09:23:49 AM EST
News - 23-10-2009 16:18 - Radio Prague
Office of President: Klaus happy with EU treaty proposal

The office of the Czech president has revealed that President Václav Klaus is satisfied with a proposal by the Swedish EU presidency addressing his demands for modifications to the EU's Lisbon treaty. In a statement, released on Friday, the president's office made clear the proposal met Mr Klaus's expectations




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:28:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Czech Republic ready to participate in new US missile defence plan - Radio Prague

Joe Biden told reporters after meeting the Czech Prime Minister, Jan Fischer, in Prague on Friday.

"The Czech Republic stepped up and did their part in the previous missile defence plan, and today we discussed the potential role the Czech Republic could play in the new architecture, a better architecture that has the capacity to actually protect Europe, and does not just focus on the US. I am very appreciative that the prime minister stated to me that the Czech Republic is ready to be a part of that new architecture and discuss the terms this participation will take."

For his part, Czech Prime Minister was somewhat more reserved when talking about a possible role for the Czech Republic, saying the country would only begin to seek its role within the new system after it has more information.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:30:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
  Czech Republic endorses US missile defense plan | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 23.10.2009

Czech Prime Minister Jan Fischer said his country was "ready to participate" in the new plan, which focuses on short- and medium-range interceptors.

Biden said that the proposed SM-3 missile defense system would "cover Europe and the Czech Republic more effectively" than a missile shield plan drawn up during the administration of former US President George W. Bush.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:30:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]
is this like closing Guantanamo (sooooon) and making indefinite detention elsewhere happen?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 05:43:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Seems like it, Change you ca no longer believe in.

Why is this loser programme being dug up again anyway ? I thought they'd cancelled it after an attack of apparently uncommon sense. But seems like the O-man's got his republican on again.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 08:03:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]
UPDATE: Lucian Croitoru presents the ministers in his new cabinet - Top News - HotNews.ro
The nominated Prime Minister Lucian Croitoru presents on Friday the list of ministers he will present to the Parliament, television channel Antena 3 informs. I sent to the Parliament my governing program and the list of the ministers in the new cabinet, Lucian Croitoru declared.

Here are his declarations:

  • I have the support if the Democrat Liberal party and I negotiated with the other political parties and the national minorities
  • All other political parties said that they will not endorse this government. Afterwards, I have met members of the Democrat Liberal Party and President Basescu who assured me that the new Cabinet will receive the vote of the Parliament given the current economic situation.

Also see: Presidents vs. Parliaments: now playing in Romania)


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:31:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The World from Berlin: Coalition Negotiations Marked by 'Chaos and Horse-Trading' - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

Inch by painful inch, Angela Merkel's coalition partners are moving closer to forming a government in Berlin, as the parties struggle to reconcile conflicting election pledges. Many newspapers on Friday accuse the parties of pandering to special interests rather than considering what is best for the country.

It has been a tortuous process but now, almost four weeks after elections put them in the driving seat to form a new government, Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservatives and the pro-business Free Democrats (FDP) seem on the cusp of agreeing to a coalition deal this weekend.

The parties have struggled to reconcile very different election pledges to cut taxes on the one hand, while not imposing tough cuts on social spending on the other. All the time a new legal commitment to balancing the budget by 2016 has tied the negotiating partners' hands when it comes to increasing public borrowing to cover these seemingly incompatible promises.

Marathon talks into the early hours of Friday morning, however, saw the FDP move closer to clinching a deal with Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and its Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union (CSU). After 12 hours of talks Horst Seehofer, the CSU leader, told journalists at 1 a.m. that the parties had made progress towards an agreement ahead of Saturday's self-imposed deadline.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:31:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]
  Opinion: The Black Widow Chancellor - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
First the Social Democrats and now the Free Democrats: German Chancellor Angela Merkel's new political partners need to beware the fate of their predecessors. The FDP is perilously wrong if it thinks it can achieve mass tax cuts. Merkel squeezed the blood out of the SPD and could easily do it again.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:31:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]
They have now decided on the ministers -- lots of seats switching.

  • Ronald Pofalla, loyal CDU officer, gets the grey eminence position of head of the chancellery, pushing out...

  • Merkel confidante Thomas de Maizière (CDU), who gets interior, pushing out...

  • Wolfgang "Stasi 2.0" Schäuble (CDU), now heading the finance ministry(!).

  • Economy: Reiner Brüderle (FDP), pushing out the conservatives' young star...

  • Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg (CSU), who switches to defense; pushing out Andenpakt member...

  • Franz Josef Jung (CDU), now responsible for labour.

  • As expected, Guido Westerwelle (FDP) is the new foreign minister. The BBC should learn German!

  • Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger, a leftover from the days the FDP wasn't just about neoliberalism, returns to justice (she had the post in Kohl's government 11 years ago).


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 05:09:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Pandering to special interests?  Isn't that the reason right-wing parties exist?
by Zwackus on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 08:36:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
No, that's the reason all successful parties exist.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 03:41:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
France approves broadside to digital pirates | France 24

AFP - France will send out the first warnings to digital pirates early next year after passing tough legislation allowing for Internet access to be cut for those who illegally download movies and music, a minister said.

The Constitutional Court passed the law on Thursday to the joy of President Nicolas Sarkozy and anger of Internet libertarians in France and other countries which are considering copying the French example.

Culture Minister Frederic Mitterrand said the members of a watchdog to oversee application of the digital clampdown would be named in November and the first warnings would go out "from the start of 2010."




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:32:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Sholto Byrnes: A shame that outrage and not debate confronted Nick Griffin - Commentators, Opinion - The Independent

It should have been enough to confront him with past comments that have been recorded in a manner that makes them undeniable. It should have been enough to examine his party's stated policies and its ludicrous elevation of an indigenous ethnicity in an island that has assimilated waves of immigrants for centuries.

It should have been laughably straightforward for the panellists to debate with and destroy Griffin's arguments. Instead, inflated by their outrage, the other speakers repeatedly interrupted, spoke over and cut short the BNP leader. They could have given him all the rope he needed to hang himself. By treating him as a pariah not even granted the liberty of finishing many of his sentences, never mind a particular proposition he was beginning to elaborate, they showed precisely the disregard for others and their views that they condemn in Griffin's party.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:32:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Today, 23 October, is the anniversary of the 1956 Revolution in Hungary.

In the previous three years, the celebrations have been marred by far-right rioting. With the security level today, arrests (György Budaházy, one of their leaders, is arrested on charges of forming a terrorist organisation) and the fatigue of the rioters, there was no rioting today (at least until now). However, the neofascist far-right party that got double-digits in the EP elections, Jobbik, held a legal rally.

Beyond praise for the rioters and money-collecting for Budaházy's defense, what's noteworthy is the list of guests:

  • Mark Abramsson, National Democrats (Sweden)
  • ex-MEP Luca Romagnoli, Fiamma Tricolore (Italy)
  • Pierre-Patrick Cocriamont, Front national (Belgium)
  • MEP Bruno Gollnisch, Front National (France)

Nick Griffin is also an old friend, who attended a year ago.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:44:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]
That was a very good commentary. A lot of opinion today seems to centre around the programme having been a missed opportunity.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 08:07:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Given the immigration policies pursued by the established parties (minus LibDem?), their representatives weren't in the position to deliver a good trashing, though.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 10:20:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]

French lower house of parliament backs bank tax

PARIS, Oct 23 (Reuters) - France's lower house of parliament on Friday approved a plan to impose a 10 percent tax on bank profits in 2010 despite opposition from the government.

The National Assembly, adopted the opposition-proposed measure by 44 votes to 40.

However, a source in President Nicolas Sarkozy's ruling UMP party said the government would ask for a new vote, claiming a technical problem because two UMP deputies had accidentally voted the wrong way.

Yet another case of the government unable to get the votes it needs in Parliament (I don't think I've ever seen this happen once, let alone multiple times, under previous governments), a sign of the deep misgivings on the right about Sarkozy (the fact this his policies are often lefty-populist rather than conservative, that he listens to no-one, and takes credit for everything).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 05:49:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]
"the government would ask for a new vote, claiming a technical problem because two UMP deputies had accidentally voted the wrong way."

Can we get a revote for 2007 because millions of French people accidentally voted the wrong way?

This has to be one of the most brazen rejection of the rule of law .

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 08:41:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]
 ECONOMY & FINANCE 



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 09:24:26 AM EST
Business confidence soars to record high | Business | Deutsche Welle | 23.10.2009

The Munich-based Ifo Institute said its business climate index, based on a survey of 7,000 executives, edged up from 91.3 in September to 91.9 points in October in its seventh successive monthly increase.

The index, seen as a major barometer of the economic mood in Europe, is the latest indication that Europe's largest economy is pulling out of its worst recession since World War II.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:26:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Rich Germans call for higher taxes for the wealthy | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 23.10.2009
A group of rich Germans have launched a petition to reintroduce a wealth tax to help the country rebound from the ongoing economic crisis.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:27:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Similar observations have been made for the US economy by Bill Gates Sr. and Warren Buffet, among others, though I don't know if they recommended a wealth tax per se.  The advantage there is immediate tax revenue.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 07:14:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Illegal immigrants working on Paris metro "reduced to slavery" | The Observers

These labourers, working on station platforms in the Paris metro, are illegal immigrants. The conditions they work in, shown in the following videos, are simply deplorable. 

Under the pretence that they wanted to send photos home, the labourers were allowed to bring a small digital camera along to work. They then passed their videos to French labour union CGT, who brought them to the attention of the media. The images show the workers removing concrete slabs from the station platform, and then resurfacing the ground with boiling tarmac. Bare armed, gloveless, without masks, without helmets.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:27:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]
30 million letters delayed by strike - Home News, UK - The Independent

The postal workers strikes have led to 30 million letters being delayed, it was revealed today.

The Royal Mail said the figure was equivalent to around 40 per cent of an average daily postbag.

The company branded the strikes as "unnecessary and irresponsible", as a second day of action crippled deliveries.

Meanwhile the Communication Workers Union confirmed there will be a three day strike from next Thursday involving over 120,000 workers.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:27:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Whenever these things have happened during the last 12 years I cannot but hear the exasperated tones of Neil Kinnock from his 1985 conference speech

I'll tell you what happens with impossible promises. You start with far fetched resolutions. They are then pickled into a rigid dogma, a code, and you go through the years sticking to that, out-dated, misplaced, irrelevant to the real needs, and you end in the grotesque chaos of a Labour council--a Labour council--hiring taxis to scuttle round a city handing out redundancy notices to its own workers. I'm telling you - and you'll listen - you can't play politics with people's jobs and with people's services. The people will not abide posturing.

You don't have to change that of much to get to words somebody might use to slag off NuLab.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 08:13:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]
After Windows 7 euphoria, Microsoft reports profit slump | France 24
US software giant Microsoft has reported a first-quarter net profit of 3.57 billion dollars, down 18% from a year earlier but in excess of analysts' forecasts.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:28:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I will no doubt upgrade to 7, but not yet. I'll wait till I hear the tales of woe and disaster.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 08:14:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Australia approves biggest ever Chinese takeover | France 24
AFP - Australia Friday approved Yanzhou Coal's 3.2 billion US dollar takeover of miner Felix Resources, its biggest by a Chinese firm, in a breakthrough for the Asian giant's scramble for commodities.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:28:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Bank Failure 100, 101, 102, 103 | Bloomberg | 23 Oct 2009

Four banks, one in Georgia and three in Florida, were shut today, according to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., pushing this year's total to 103. That's the most since the savings-and- loan crisis led regulators to shutter 179 institutions in 1992....

The number of bank closings would likely be higher this year if the FDIC's fund wasn't depleted and if the agency had more bank examiners, RBC's Cassidy said. The agency shrank under President George W. Bush before adding employees in the Obama administration. The FDIC has about 6,000 employees now, compared with 21,000 during the savings-and-loan crisis in 1991, he said.

Possibly related news:

Pool of Applicants: "The job in question was simply for an administrative assistant. Responsibilities included data entry, assembling paperwork and making copies. Yet look at what the pool of applicants contained. * I.B.M. business analyst with 18 years experience * A former director of human resources * Someone with a master's degree and 12 years at Deloitte & Touche, the accounting firm * A former bank branch manager * A woman who once owned a trucking company"

23 Oct 1930: "Editorial: The cynical might dismiss the new Hoover unemployment efforts as just a continuation of last fall's business conferences, with their dubious results. However, the attitude now seems different. Last fall, there was much enthusiastic publicity and overconfidence; now, the committee is being discreet and seems to understand hard work is needed with local govts., and with corporation leaders not "as amenable to the presidential mandate" as last fall. A renewal of efforts to stimulate employment "by all safe means" and to help "those least able to withstand" the depression is worthy of unstinted support from business and government.

Bear market is now worse than any in last 25 years; Dow is down 52% from Sept. 3, 1929 peak vs. 47% decline in 1921, 40% in 1917, and 45% in 1907.

Some traders say upcoming Congressional elections may be weighing on the market.

Extensive bargain hunting by small investors reported by leading brokers, with "outright purchases covering many sheets on the order books while selling transactions were confined to a few columns." This was also reflected in steady gains in the stockholder counts for leading corporations."

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 08:13:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Sheila Bair Addresses A Worried Nation   by Marla Singer Zero Hedge


  1. Partners Bank, Naples, FL
  2. American United Bank, Lawrenceville, GA
  3. Hillcrest Bank Florida, Naples, FL
  4. Flagship National Bank, Bradenton, FL

UPDATE:

  1. Bank of Elmwood, Racine, WI
  2. Riverview Community Bank, Otsego, MN

 As you watch the bobbing metronome of Sheila C. Bair's head during this video ("...but as I said [left tick] we have the ability to immediately access [right tock] up to $500 billion from our Treasury line [left tick]...") wonder to yourself quietly:

    * How is the FDIC going to slurp down another $500 billion without some roof raising action on the debt ceiling?
    * How can ANYONE promise that no insured depositor will ever (until the heat death of the universe) lose a dime?
    * What family of narcotic sedatives are being used in this video?

Meanwhile, if anyone is spreading evil rumors about the FDIC, make sure to email flag@fdic.gov immediately.

From another post by Marla:  "356.7 million in giant sucking sounds from the DIF." The tab for the October 23 banquet at the FDIC. Bon appétit!

So why is this Bank Failure Friday different from all other Bank Failure Fridays?  Because the FDIC is out of money this time.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 12:28:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]
the FDIC is out of money this time

Uh, nothing either the Treasury, Congress or the Fed couldn't fix with a stroke of a pen.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 04:01:41 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Or the push of a button.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 09:36:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Uh, nothing either the Treasury, Congress or the Fed couldn't fix with a stroke of a pen.

True enough, but, still, one of the three actually has to do something, and when they do, they can count on being a pinnata for a good while. What this really signifies, as I am sure you know, is that the system of "self finance" for the FDIC is broken and, unless the rate of failures declines remarkably and unexpectedly, it will remain broken for the foreseeable future. Worse, were the FDIC to receive an injection of $500 billion, that would likely be followed by a rash of failures that would quickly eat up over half of that.

The big story here is that this entire situation undermines all of the happy talk and undoes much of the effect of the very expensive levitation of the financial markets we have witnessed since March. Meanwhile, actions to date have actually made the underlying fragility of the financial system worse, IMO.  

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 11:37:02 AM EST
[ Parent ]
What this really signifies, as I am sure you know, is that the system of "self finance" for the FDIC is broken and, unless the rate of failures declines remarkably and unexpectedly, it will remain broken for the foreseeable future.

Or the percentage contributions form banks to the FDIC could be increased...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 12:19:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Or we could tax financial transactions to raise the money.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I said a funny.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 01:01:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Or the percentage contributions form banks to the FDIC could be increased...

They have waited too long for that to work.  They need a couple of hundred billion NOW. I would suggest a 95% tax on bonuses from all working for firms that were ever TARP recipients or that were allowed to convert to depository bank status since Jan 1, 2008 and a substantial transaction tax.  But they would still need a loan.  

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 03:56:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Cat...I have been enjoying the "Related Items" listings that you have been doing. They take extra work and are appreciated.

Now, dredging up 80 year old news is truly great.

Perspective is marvelous.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 01:20:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
you're welcome.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 02:40:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
"It Has Got All the Hallmarks of a Financial Collapse about to Happen in America ...The US Dollar Is Almost Becoming like Junk Bonds"  Washington's Blog

Guess who said the following:

   Far from turning around the [George] Bush legacy of deficits and debt, [US president Barack] Obama has made it worse. It has got all the hallmarks of a financial collapse about to happen in America...

    The US dollar is almost becoming like junk bonds.

A senior Senator from Australia.

Leading Australian paper The Age adds:

   The Nationals Senate leader Barnaby Joyce is openly canvassing an economic upheaval that would dwarf the current global financial crisis, triggered by the US defaulting on its sovereign debt within the next few years.

    In unusually pessimistic comments for a senior political figure, Senator Joyce said the US Government was running such large deficits and building up so much debt that it was in a similar position to Iceland or Germany before World War II.


A commenter offered some perspective:

Anonymous said...

    Correction - barney is no senior senator despite what The Age might say (he just opens his mouth so much it seems like he's been around forever). He's a junior senator of the Nationals. The nationals are the junior member of the coalition party. And the coalition party is in opposition. Unlike the USA, senators generally vote on party lines rather than donation book lines.

    He's also a bit of a thicky and very suggestible. Gets all worked up about some issue and spouts his mouth off, then gets led back to his stall and eventually just votes with his party anyway. About half the time he seems to say the right thing - but it's usually for the wrong reason and so by accident.


The current financial situation has provoked posters and commenters to the point of grasping onto any statement that appears to confirm what they strongly suspect to be the case.  We find ourselves in the same situation as math teachers Indiana after the state legislature passed a bill making the value of PI equal to three!

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 11:55:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What's rather ... strange ... about the whole situation is all this mess could be turned-around by a goodly dose of social democracy, New Deal style.  Which is what saved their asses the last time this came down.  Yes, it happened under the pretext and situation of "Fighting Facism" but still.  If the Wall Streeters had any sense that's what they would be clamoring for.

Instead we've got, well, what we've got: a predatory ruling class and their minions, tickbirds, and pilot fish with a toehold on reality.  IF they have that much!

There was a joke floating around the Soviet Union right before it collapsed, "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work."  Why the capitalists don't 'get' the same thing is happening now, to them, bewilders me.  The only thing I can figure is they really are that blinded by their Functional Fixedness.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 02:58:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]
In a system where financial reward is supposedly the motivational carrot for solving problems, this carrot - as we now know from studies of the candle problem - leads to functional fixedness. That means, like anorexia, the problem is recursive.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 06:00:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]
ahh, training ("a system") and incentive ("the motivational carrot"): It's funny --haha, not peculiar-- you mention. A thread dispute -- to incent or to incentivize-- elsewhere had me searching for the origin of the word incentive, which I dispise as much as I do the verb to privilege. Anyway, most plausible etymology is an online OED reference to an academic paper published in the 1970s.

Indo-european stem, kan-, not so much.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 08:00:03 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Nicely played.

Here's what Piaget once said about Gestalt psychology with respect to his own experimental work and theory of intelligence:

In so far as feeling direct behaviour by attributin a value to its ends, we must confine ourselves to saying that it supplies the energy necessary for action, while knowledge impresses a structure on it. Thus arises the solution proposed by the so-called Gestalt psychology: behaviour involves a 'total field' embracing subjects and objects, and the dynamics of this field constitutes feeling (Lewin), while its structure depends on perception, effector-functions, and intelligence. We shall adopt an analogous formula, with the reservation that feelings and cognitive configurations do not depend solely on the existing 'field,' but also on the whole previous history of the acting subject. We shall simply say then that every action involves an energetic or affective aspect and a structural or cognitive aspect, which, in fact, unites the different points of view already mentioned. [1950: 5; emphasis added]


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 07:48:13 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Thank you.

I was heavily influenced by Piaget during my aborted University days (c 1970.)  Behaviorism gave me hairballs and he was one of the few approved non-Behaviorist Serious People©.  Thus, I read and used him a lot.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 01:09:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I received a lot of spontaneous mockery of the US dollar from various Canadians, from the taxi driver to ministry officials at the conference...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 05:23:41 AM EST
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The funny thing is that the US national debt is like a third of the size of the Japanese debt, which is the cheapest in the world. Granted, this has some base in that the Market(tm) believes Japanese future inflation will be very low.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 09:40:50 AM EST
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It may be that absolute, as opposed to relative to the GDP, debrt also matters.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 10:24:15 AM EST
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I add: for a currency, external debt might be the most relevant. In that field, Japan is much better off.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 10:27:35 AM EST
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Japan is not a federal state. The level of US federal debt is routinely compared with other countries' debts, taken as a whole. Of course, the US will then appear to have rather less.

The US as a whole has far more than a third of Japan's level of debt. And far, far more than a third of Japan's foreign held debt.

Then of course there is the "relative to GDP fallacy, when GDP is being carefully doctored to give the desired conclusions.

Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need, but not every man's greed. Gandhi

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 11:28:14 AM EST
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I'm trying to parse what you are saying here.

What is Japan, compared to a "federal state"?

What does "far more than a third" mean? For example, half is more than a third. Do you mean "a third more" perhaps?

GDP is indeed able to be played for silliness. Especially when so much is moving money around, and when there are so many donations to the military juggernaut.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 01:28:07 PM EST
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Japan is not federal, the USA is. And the states of the USA have their own debt. However, these comparisons only consider the debt of the federal government.

GDP is indeed able to be played for silliness

The devil is in the details. What you include, in which column, and what deflator you use. Stuff like Hedonic Price Indexing. The USA has been rather 'creative' about these in the Greenspan years, so much so that US and European GDP figures weren't really comparable. (Not to mention the silliness of comparing whole country GDP growth numbers instead of per capita.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 04:25:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Thanks~!

And the "more than a third" meaning?

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Sun Oct 25th, 2009 at 04:41:06 AM EST
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The US federal government debt is roughly 60% of the US GDP, while Japan's national debt is about 180% of Japan's GDP. Hence Starvid's claim upthread that

the US national debt is like a third of the size of the Japanese debt

Cyrille answered that it is much more if we include states' debt [and, I note, probably the extra-budget debt of some federal authorities, too]. This total public debt is not officially calculated, however, so going more precise than "a lot more than a third" would require some research...

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Oct 25th, 2009 at 04:56:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Excellent response. Thank you to all.

I had each of those pieces of information in my quiver. I could have pulled out any of them. But I never pulled them all out and shot them into a target to notice the empirical gravitas of the whole.

What was once doom porn is now just a laughing matter. Castles made of sand, drifting into the sea. Eventually is now.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Sun Oct 25th, 2009 at 07:49:48 AM EST
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Telegraph - Edmund Conway - Britain's economic vulnerability was always clear

There was little doubt at the start of this recession that, contrary to Gordon Brown's insistence, Britain was uniquely vulnerable to an extremely painful slowdown. Its reliance on the City for large chunks of economic growth, the worrying state of the housing market, the excessive levels of debt held by consumers around the country were worrying enough, and that was before you started to consider the terrifying budget deficit. But it is only now, more than a year and a half into what many leading economists are classifying as a depression, that such concerns have been borne out in cold, hard statistical evidence.

Yesterday's gross domestic product figures may well be revised in the coming months, but the pattern is clear: whereas all the other major economies are gradually dragging themselves out of recession, Britain is still mired in what has now become its longest period of continuous contraction since comparable records began (and, most likely, since the 1930s). It has been a shock, not just for the Treasury, whose experts now privately admit they will have to cut their economic forecasts for this year come the Pre-Budget Report later this autumn, but also for most of the City's economists.

The broad assumption had been that although the UK had had a tough recession, it would emerge from it and start growing at a relatively solid pace UK by the middle of the year. But yesterday's figures proved such conclusions disasastrously wrong. The falls in economic activity were not merely isolated to the City, but across the entire economy, from the manufacturing sector to the services sector - from hotels and restaurants to construction. That there are so few rays of light was perhaps the most astonishing thing about the official figures: after all the Bank of England has pumped an unprecedented amount of cash into the economy and slashed interest rates to the lowest level in history; the Government has cut VAT and offered car buyers big tax breaks.

However, such incentives are of little use when an economy is facing the twin pressures of an immense financial crisis and onerous levels of personal debt. Earlier this month, the International Monetary Fund released a little-noticed piece of research which showed that the scale of the credit crunch was greater in the UK than in any other Western nation. In other words the gap between what people need to borrow in order to satisfy their living standards and what banks are willing and able to lend is, at £215 billion, far bigger than anywhere else in the developed world.

It is this that helps explain the scale of the recession. Even those who still have their jobs (and lest we forget unemployment tends to keep rising well after the recession is over) are unable to borrow in order to plan for the future. It is a sobering experience, but is a necessary one: Britain has lived beyond its means for too long. If it takes the humiliating prospect of being overtaken by Italy to bring this to light, so be it.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 08:29:02 AM EST
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'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 09:39:28 AM EST
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That is without doubt the most magnificent rant I have ever seen....well, since my first divorce....

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 12:47:35 PM EST
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glad you liked it CC.
tim geithner better be really glad he's not locked  a room with this guy.

there's nothing more terrifying than a pissed off bubba who's done his economics homework. i can see a future congressman in the making, lol

that swinging printer....bubbye

drew should get a kick out of it too, just ignore the first 30 secs, (and the jibe about 'hussein' later)

baseball fans this is what 'hitting it out of the park' really means.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 10:20:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
 WORLD 



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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 09:24:58 AM EST
Judge sentences former dictator Alvarez to 25 years in prison | France 24

AFP - A judge in Uruguay sentenced former dictator Gregorio Alvarez to 25 years in prison Thursday for murder and rights violations during his 1981-1985 rule, a lawyer said.

Judge Luis Charles handed the sentence to the 82-year-old Alvarez after he was found responsible for 37 "aggravated homicides," said lawyer for the prosecution Oscar Lopez Goldaracena.

Alvarez played a key role in the country's 1973's coup before going on to be commander-in-chief of the army and ultimately the final president of Uruguay's civilian-military dictatorship.




*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:17:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
at least one (sub-)continent has been serious about prosecuting war crimes and torture.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 05:24:34 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm glad to see it. Despite the enthusiasm of Spain, I remain highly skeptical that such behaviour will be anything other than a rare occurence.

Besides, I think we're moving into a new era where the methods of political oppression are corporate fiscal rather than military.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 08:32:03 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Deadly Mogadishu clashes erupt after insurgents fire on presidential plane | France 24
A fierce battle in Mogadishu on Thursday killed at least 21 civilians and wounded dozens after insurgents fired on the Somali president's plane, prompting an artillery response from peacekeepers.



*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:17:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
There is a President in Somalia?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 04:00:44 AM EST
[ Parent ]
NATO backs new Afghan strategy but avoids foreign troop pledges | World | Deutsche Welle | 23.10.2009
NATO defense ministers agreed on Friday to broaden counter-insurgency operations in Afghanistan and boost training of local security forces. But they sidestepped the issue of raising international troop numbers.

At a meeting in the Slovakian capital Bratislava on Friday, ministers backed the idea of a wider strategy to fight a growing Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan and counter growing public opposition to the mission as casualties climb.

The new strategy would involve a renewed focus on civilian reconstruction, the protection of the Afghan population and the eventual transition to Afghan responsibility for security.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:17:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Immigration judges: 'Afghanistan is not in a state of war' - Home News, UK - The Independent
Three judges of the Immigration and Asylum Tribunal ruled on Wednesday that the level of "indiscriminate violence" was not enough to permit Afghans to claim general humanitarian protection in the United Kingdom. Hundreds of asylum-seekers a year are returned to Afghanistan if they have not convinced a court they are in fear of persecution or that their lives are in danger. The ruling on Wednesday prevents them from arguing that the country is a dangerous place.

You can't make this up...


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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:18:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
 Security fears spark fresh controversy in Afghan deportation row | France 24

Days after France deported three illegal Afghan migrants, a fresh controversy was sparked over allegations that French immigration authorities got their facts wrong and that the three men hailed from dangerous areas of the war-torn country and not from relatively safe regions as French officials had earlier asserted.

The three men, aged 18, 19 and 22, were put on a joint Franco-British charter flight to the Afghan capital of Kabul on Wednesday along with 24 other Afghan migrants from Britain.

What a timing...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:19:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
  UN warns against central Iraqi asylum returns | France 24
AFP - The UN refugee agency on Friday called on host countries, especially those in Europe, not to send back Iraqi asylum seekers from central regions, warning that conditions were too dangerous there.



*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:19:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]
  African leaders adopt landmark refugee convention | France 24

AFP - African leaders on Friday adopted a convention -- billed as the first of its kind worldwide -- on the protection of the 17 million people on the continent who have fled their homes.

The convention, which is legally binding, requires member states to provide special assistance for displaced people with special needs, including the elderly, and calls for the prevention of forced displacement.




*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:20:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
One of those statements that just takes the air from the room. You just odn't know where to go to hide your shame. Except of course the UK has track record over this. Jack Straw was merrily deporting Iraqi refugees back to Saddam's tender embrace wit hthe glib quip that "there is a rule of law and system of justice operating in Iraq".

This is the man who voted for Iraq when he knew it was a lie, who denied our co-operation in torture long after we knew how where and when renditions occured, who wanted indefinite detention without trial and who then, last thursday, sat next to Nick Griffin and tried to pretend he occupied the moral high ground.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 08:37:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Exactly.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 10:30:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
scum doesn't come scummier...

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 10:24:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Deadly blasts hit air force base, restaurant | France 24
A bomb blast ripped through an air force base in the Pakistani town of Kamra, killing six civilians and two military personnel on Friday hours before a car bomb exploded outside a restaurant in the northwestern city of Peshawar, wounding 10.



*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:20:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Iran hints at rival proposal as deadline looms | France 24

REUTERS - Iran on Friday failed to accept a UN-drafted plan for it to cut a stockpile of nuclear fuel that the West fears could be used for weapons, and instead said it wanted to buy nuclear fuel from abroad.

The deal drafted by the International Atomic Energy Authority (IAEA) has already been approved by the other parties - the United States, Russia and France.

By offering a rival proposal, Iran appeared to be following a well-tested strategy of buying time to avert a threatened tightening of international sanctions.




*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:21:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
 Israel confirms September talks with Iran; Tehran denies meeting | France 24

AFP - Israel said Thursday that its atomic expert met an Iranian official over the chances of declaring the Middle East a nuclear-free zone, in the first direct talks between the archfoes in 30 years.

The spokeswoman for Israel's Atomic Energy Commission (IAEC) Yael Doron told AFP the commission's representative had held several meetings with an Iranian official "in a regional context" and under Australia's auspices.

Iran denied that it had held any nuclear talks with the Jewish state.




*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:22:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
If true, this is big...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 04:00:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]
If Israel uses it for media spin, then, unfortunately, it may not at all be big.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 04:59:32 AM EST
[ Parent ]
What would be Israel's motivation for lying about this?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 05:09:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Lie? It doesn't have to be a lie. But if you use it for media spin, that will rather limit the possibilities for a continuation of such talks, and if they calculated with that, that implies that the talks were fruitless anyway.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 05:15:20 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Administrative Detention in Israel: Palestinians Behind Bars with No Recourse to Justice - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
Hundreds of Palestinians are kept behind bars in Israel without charges having been filed and with no access to a fair trial. Not even their lawyers are allowed to look at the evidence. Some governments in the West have expressed their concern, but the Israelis haven't budged.



*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:22:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
 Stop decorating the "wall of shame" | The Observers
Better to employ an enormous grey wall for artistic purposes than leave it a towering eyesore? Palestinians and foreigners alike have been painting the Israeli government's separation wall since construction began. But on both the Israeli and the Palestinian sides of what has been dubbed "the wall of shame", there are those who don't want it to be coloured in, and for very different reasons.




*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:22:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
French FM Kouchner 'worried' at Lebanon's failure to form cabinet | France 24
"Five months after elections, perfect elections recognised the world over, there is no government in Lebanon," Kouchner said in Beirut, where he is to meet top officials on a day-long visit.

"It is not up to France to form your government and we have not come to give lessons, but we are worried.

"You cannot continue this way. You are promoting all the most dangerous trends in the region ... At stake are your security and the unity and freedom of Lebanon," he said.




*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:23:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Presidential election campaigning ends ahead of Sunday's poll | France 24
Election campaigning wraps up in Tunisia on Friday before Sunday's presidential and parliamentary poll, in which incumbent President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali is expected to win yet another term.

(Is this actually a news item?...)


*Lunatic*, n.
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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:23:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Elizabeth Warren for President   Matt Taibi

I think [the Democratic Party as currently constituted] prefer [the financial support of Wall Street and the health insurance industry and the pharmaceutical industry] to their voters. I think they feel more comfortable with them. I heard a story recently from a Democratic Party operative who tells me that certain members of one of the president's cabinet departments only got wind of how hard it is out there for ordinary people to pay their bills when they invited in a major corporation to give them a presentation about their financial outlook for the holiday season -- and through that report found out that this company's prospective customers were spending less because large numbers of them had been laid off, or had huge medical bills, or had maxed out their credit, and so on.

Letters from customers, survey answers and such, were read to the cabinet group. And they were shocked. This is how they find out about the economic reality of this country -- accidentally, from a major campaign contributor! That's how out of touch these people are.

On these financial issues, not just the issue of financial regulation on Wall Street but the larger issue of income distribution and what kind of country we want to be -- the Democratic Party no longer has a policy that makes any sense. They do not seem to understand or even recognize that real wages in this country have not grown for most people for decades. Or if they do understand, they refuse to imagine any solutions that are not in some way a compromise with their major campaign contributors. They talk about closing tax loopholes and phony corporate addresses in the Caribbean as solutions to economic problems...
....

It seems to me then that the only hope of getting any of these problems is to get ourselves a national candidate who on the one hand is a mainstream politician and on the other is willing to embrace the notion of an open protest against the Democratic Party doctrine. We need for someone who has some legitimacy with both the media and the Democratic Party constituents themselves to come out and publicly campaign to re-seize the Party from the Wall Street interests that have come to dominate it. We need someone who understands the finance stuff (which automatically reduces the pool of possible applicants to a small handful), will know the difference between real regulatory reform and a dog-and-pony show, and will not be likely to fill a cabinet with bankers from Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley.

The question I have lately is, why not draft Elizabeth Warren to run for president? And I don't mean in 2016, I mean in 2012.

Oh NOES! The Grinch Stole Christmas and Wall Street won't like it. Unless Obama can execute a quick U-turn he could be a one term president. Worse, he could do for the Democratic Party what Tony Blair did for Labor. Better that the progressive wing of the party try to salvage a future than to stay on board the Titanic.

Current policies will sink the future of the USA, as they are tying that future to the large Wall Street financial institutions, which will either drag all down with it when the current levitation fails or will suck all moisture and nourishment out of the corpse if they remain afloat. Elizabeth Warren has a calming and reassuring presence, but has shown dogged determination and courage in speaking truth to power.

I have seen her suggested as a candidate for the Senate from Massachusetts in the extraordinary election in early 2010.  The Senate would be an excellent post in which to burnish her credentials and shift gears from her current role to one more focused on mobilizing support for change. It would seem that there are even many feminists who would prefer Elizabeth to Hillary to be the first woman US President.  One certainly could not complain about baggage.    

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 10:35:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Who the heck is Elizabeth Warren?

In any case: This Ain't Gonna Happen.  If Obama decides to run again he'll get the nomination.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 03:10:36 AM EST
[ Parent ]
A primary contest involving Obama, Warren and Grayson would be fun..

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 04:00:01 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Indeed! Especially considering that, were it run effectively, it could attract a lot of Ron Paul voters and activate a significant populist segment in key states. Serious threat of such a result could force Obama to seriously deal with the financial situation. But by that time he would be hamstrung by being even more dependent on campaign contributions from Wall Street, as the progressive part of his small contributor on line base would have shifted sides.

Even if this resulted in another Republican administration, that might be better than continuing the pretense unchallenged. At best, such a challenge could be the catalyst for a political realignment, which, at its extreme, could unite country club Republicans and corporatist Democrats in a <20% new minority party. I doubt that the corporatist faction is very numerous at the base of the Democratic party and its loss could more than be compensated by attracting libertarians concerned about the power of government and corporations.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 11:57:42 AM EST
[ Parent ]
That is a problem for the "low information" voters.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 11:46:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
But Obama is being exactly the candidate he promised to be, a beltway centrist. He thinks, like Clinton, "There is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right with America". the idea that something deeply structural is broken simply dopesn't occur to him.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 08:42:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]
the idea that something deeply structural is broken simply dopesn't occur to him.

He may be about to get his nose vigorously rubbed in  evidence of the failure of that thesis.  But, of course, like a strong willed puppy, that might not deter him from continuing to piss on the common rug, (or man.)  

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 12:01:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]
 LIVING OFF THE PLANET 
 Environment, Energy, Agriculture, Food 



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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 09:25:46 AM EST
Swine flu death toll close to 5,000: WHO | France 24

AFP - Nearly 5,000 people have died from swine flu infections since the A(H1N1) virus was uncovered in April, the World Health Organisation said on Friday.

The death toll marked an increase of about 265 over the 4,735 deaths reported to the WHO a week ago.




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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:14:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
EIN global estimates.

Click to enlarge.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 08:39:20 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Philippines creates climate change commission | France 24

AFP - President Gloria Arroyo on Friday signed a law creating a national climate body that she said will help the storm-devastated Philippines better prepare for natural disasters in the future.

The "Climate Change Commission", which she herself will head, will draft an "action plan" to mitigate and prepare for the effects of climate change.

Weather is not climate, but if this Commission leads to action, I say who cares.


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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:14:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Germany gears up green for solar-powered race car | Science & Technology | Deutsche Welle | 23.10.2009
Technicians at the Bochum University of Applied Sciences are revving their new BOcruiser solar-powered engines for the World Solar Challenge in Australia. The solar car racing event showcases cutting-edge technology.




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by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:15:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Think secures new investment and is set to resume production of the Think City

The Think City electric car is going into production at the Valmet Automotive plant in Uusikaupunki, Finland, after a restructuring of debt by the Norwegian company. Apologies for earlier indicating that production had started. I'll be in the city soon and will try to get in some photography inside the plant by twisting the arm of the city director.

More here

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 06:22:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Solar energy firm takes advantage of auto industry's manufacturing expertise   LA Times

Skyline Solar, a Silicon Valley start-up, has become the latest green energy company to tap the struggling auto industry's manufacturing muscle. The Mountain View, Calif., company said Thursday that components for its solar power plants were being made in a Troy, Mich., car factory operated by Cosma International, a division of auto manufacturing giant Magna International.

The same machines that stamp out doors, hoods and other car body parts are now making metal arrays that hold Skyline's photovoltaic panels. "It's literally just carving out a piece of an existing facility and putting through a product that for all intents and purposes could be a new make and model of the next family sedan," said Bob MacDonald, Skyline's chief executive. "Every time there's a new model year for a Ford Mustang, they have a tool and die set they put into this press. So you just have a different tool and die in there that forms a new shape for Skyline."

The bottom line, MacDonald said, is that Skyline has slashed its capital costs by taking advantage of Cosma's existing manufacturing capability. He said Skyline has contracts in place for small-scale solar farms. He said he could not divulge the details of those contracts but noted that Skyline had begun to receive shipments of arrays from Michigan.



"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 11:13:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
EPA to limit mercury emissions from power plants by 2011   By Renee Schoof | McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON -- The Environmental Protection Agency will put controls on the emissions of hazardous pollutants such as mercury from coal-fired power plants for the first time by November 2011, according to an agreement announced Friday to settle a lawsuit against the agency.

Many other polluters were forced to reduce emissions of toxic material such as mercury, arsenic and lead after the Clean Air Act was strengthened in 1990. Power plants, however, the largest source of mercury pollution, aren't subject to nationwide rules.

The tougher rules will clean up more than just heavy metals because some kinds of pollution controls -- scrubbers, for example -- also remove other pollutants, such as soot.

Controlling mercury is significant because the pollutant enters the food chain and ends up in fish. Children, including those who were exposed to mercury before birth, are especially at risk of developmental and learning disabilities. Adults also can experience health problems from eating too much contaminated fish.


About time!  As the new rules are the result of the settlement of a lawsuit they at least will be more difficult to rescind.  

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 11:32:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
so how do you deal with all the mercury in the atmosphere coming from Chinese coal plants, now (40% of the total mercury in North American air, already)?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 05:37:49 AM EST
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Bon appétit!

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 11:43:25 AM EST
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 LIVING ON THE PLANET 
 Society, Culture, History, Information 



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 09:26:21 AM EST
Japanese university plans huge 'manga' library | France 24

AFP - In a move to promote serious study of Japanese manga, a university in Tokyo plans to open a library with two million comic books, animation drawings, video games and other cartoon industry artifacts.

Tentatively named the Tokyo International Manga Library, it would open by early 2015 on the campus of the private Meiji University, and be available to researchers and fans from Japan and abroad.

About time.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:11:30 PM EST
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Will Year of Miracles Be Squandered?: Cynicism Threatens to Destroy Gains of 1989 - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

Poland and Central Europe have prospered since the fall of communism in 1989. Today, however, Europe is faced with a great test. A leading Polish journalist and ex-dissident argues that cynisism and the lure of authoritarianism are the new threats to a European freedom secured only two decades ago.

What are the reasons behind what happened 20 years ago? The most banal answer to this question is that communism proved economically ineffective. But there are still communist countries today, despite their systems' inefficiencies: Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, and China. Therefore, we cannot be satisfied with a purely economic answer to this question.

The year 1989 was a year of miracles, an annus mirabilis. Yet the explanations for the fall of communism differ...

...Communism fell, paradoxically, because the Soviet elite believed it could be reformed...

Part 2: The Working Class Who Toppled Communism Were the First Victims of the Transformation

Adam Michnik was a leading dissident in communist Poland and is editor in chief of the Warsaw-based daily Gazeta Wyborcza.

(As a general comment: though I think he has the usual CEE liberal ideological blinders on, in-between there are lots of astute observations in the piece --- some in separate comments below.)


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:11:54 PM EST
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Four Perspectives

When I look back, I have four perspectives: a Polish one, because I am a Pole; a Russian one, because the cards were really shuffled there; a Central European one, because the fall of communism was not a purely Polish phenomenon; and finally, the perspective of the West.

The West was not at all prepared for what happened... The decisive factor was Russia. The perestroika reforms set new forces free, and they triggered further processes that developed a new dynamic. For a long time, neither the ruling communist elite nor the opposition in Central Europe understood what was actually underway in Russia.

...In Poland, the idea behind the Round Table was to bring about a kind of Finlandization of Poland. We knew we could not win a war against Russia, which is why we had to work with what came to us from Russia. Thus perestroika was our natural ally.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:12:26 PM EST
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The change in the party began in Hungary. Imre Pozsgay, the leader of the liberal nationalist wing, was one of those responsible for the "thaw" in the public media. He also encouraged an accommodation with the "nationalist" wing of the opposition... The Hungarian opposition was weaker than the Polish, and from the beginning it was divided into two currents, nationalist and liberal...

Poland went furthest, as the government's Round Table negotiations with Solidarity broke through the iron logic of the communist regime and opened it up to ideas that had not been heard since August 1980, when it was at its height... it was a major revolution without a revolution. No one took to the streets; there were no barricades, and no executions... it is unclear how things would have developed if both sides in Poland had realized that their decisions would lead to German unification.

...East Germany was a barrack-state that would not exist without the Red Army. The East German opposition thought differently. It had the most left-leaning opposition of all the East bloc countries. It sought the democratization of East Germany. The autumn demonstrations in East Germany began with the slogan "We are the people" before the slogan "We are one people" emerged.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:12:52 PM EST
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Goebbels-Baarová: more than just a German-Czech love story - Radio Prague
A play based on the short but stormy love affair between the Third Reich's infamous propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels and a young Czech film star has been causing quite a stir locally. Goebbels-Baarová has sparked controversy ― partly because of its unforgiving treatment of actress Lída Baarová and its message aimed at today's Czechs...

The play focuses on the off-screen romance between Goebbels and the young and beautiful Baarová after she went to Berlin after being signed up by the famous German film studio UFA in 1935.

...Baarová had longer to reflect on their relationship which helped to taint her in the eyes of many Czechoslovaks as a collaborator. She died aged 86 in 2000 in Austria with that fateful romance of six decades earlier having haunted the rest of her life.

...The director says that Lída Baarová is symbolic of certain currents in Czechoslovak society in the 1930's that flirted with the Nazis. The short-lived Czech government between the Munich agreement and final invasion of the remnants of the Czech state in March 1939 took an overtly collaborationist line with Nazi Germany. Other choices about collaboration in different circumstances came later.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:13:25 PM EST
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Fritzl Analyst: 'I've Seen Evil from Almost Every Angle' - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

Austrian psychiatrist Heidi Kastner has spent her career preparing expert opinions on fathers who abuse their children, including Josef Fritzl. In a SPIEGEL interview, she discusses her new book and her experiences researching fathers who abuse their children in horrendous ways.

SPIEGEL: Ms. Kastner, you write about cruel and extreme acts of violence against children. Who would want to read this sort of material voluntarily?

Kastner: I don't know. I am confronted with these cases regularly. Perhaps I have lost, to some degree, my awareness of how this affects others. Someone who works as a garbage collector eventually gets used to the stench.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:13:43 PM EST
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The Miracle of Perm: From Russian Gulag to Avant-Garde Mecca - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
Is Moscow or St. Petersburg Russia's cultural capital? Neither one, apparently, now that Perm is seen as the hot new contender for the title. The city of a million people, near the Ural Mountains, previously known for its Soviet-era labor camps and weapons factories, is experiencing an astonishing transformation.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:14:02 PM EST
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 PEOPLE AND KLATSCH 



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 09:27:04 AM EST
'Distracted' pilots overshot airport by 150 miles - Americas, World - The Independent
Two Northwest Airlines pilots failed to make radio contact with ground controllers for more than an hour and overflew their Minneapolis destination by 150 miles before discovering the mistake and turning around.

The Federal Aviation Administration said the crew told authorities they became distracted during a heated discussion over airline policy and lost track of their location, but federal officials are investigating whether pilot fatigue might also have played a role.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:10:01 PM EST
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Lots of Frenchmen today!

Sarkozy's son elected to board of influential agency | France 24

The morning after Jean Sarkozy renounced his controversial bid to head an influential public agency that oversees Paris's business district, the 23-year-old son of French President Nicolas Sarkozy was instead elected to its board.



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:10:16 PM EST
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Frenchman Todt elected new FIA president | Sports | Deutsche Welle | 23.10.2009
Jean Todt is to succeed the controversial Max Mosley as president of the International Automobile Federation (FIA).  

The 63-year-old former Ferrari boss won the FIA general assembly election in Paris with 135 votes against 49 for former world rally champion Ari Vatanen of Finland.

Todt succeeds Briton Max Mosley whose reputation was badly damaged after it became public last year that he had engaged in Nazi-themed sado-masochistic sex sessions with prostitutes.

Mosley had agreed not to stand for a fifth term as FIA boss as part of an agreement struck in July to end the threat of a breakaway series by Formula One teams.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:10:32 PM EST
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Jackie Stewart was loudly denouncing Todt accession saying it was a stitch up by mosley/ecclestone

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 08:46:26 AM EST
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US formally demands film director's extradition | France 24
"The US Embassy in Bern submitted the formal extradition request to the Federal Office of Justice on 22 October 2009, within the deadline of 40 days stipulated under the bilateral extradition treaty," the Swiss Federal Office of Justice said in a statement.

The request will now be forwarded to the canton of Zurich, where Polanski was detained upon his arrival on September 26 to collect an award at the city's film festival.




*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:10:49 PM EST
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Asterix celebrates his 50th birthday with a 34th comic book | France 24
Asterix and his village of Gauls, who have already sold 325 million copies and been translated into 107 languages, will celebrate their 50th birthday with the launch of the 34th book in the series.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 02:11:08 PM EST
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great roundup dodo muchas gracias

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 10:13:22 PM EST
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All you Roreigners need to know about Virginia "Democrats", for real.

Courtesy of Ben Smith, Politico

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 08:54:29 PM EST
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Think Progress » Bush: I regret standing in front of the `Mission Impossible' banner.
Bush also said that he regretted appearing in front of a "Mission Impossible" sign in 2003 during an address about the Iraq war. Of course, the sign actually said "Mission Accomplished." Maybe "Mission Impossible" would have been more appropriate.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 at 10:50:19 PM EST
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Bush: President Unpossible.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 04:00:58 AM EST
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He's stopped being president, why does he need to keep up with the hick mixes up his words bs ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Oct 24th, 2009 at 08:48:46 AM EST
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