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Bill Clinton to Palestinians: 'Get over it'

by shergald Tue Nov 17th, 2009 at 10:11:45 AM EST

.....'Settlement policy has changed', he said.

Jeffrey Blankfort writing for MONDOWEISS took on former President Bill Clinton's pro-Israel talk at the Saban Forum in Jerusalem a few days ago with the full cynicism it deserves. His advise to the Palestinians was no less disingenuous than his 'nod and wink' go-ahead policy in the early 90s that doubled Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territories.

Bill Clinton, who is thus a major source of the problem now facing Obama, settlements, is probably the last person who should be advising the Palestinians.

In what should go down as one of the most humiliating episodes in the history of Israel-US relations, former President Bill Clinton told the Saban Forum in Jerusalem on Sunday that Palestinians must "accept America's modification of its anti-settlement policy and return to the bargaining table," according to a report in the Jerusalem Post which the US media apparently ignored.

It was the last nail in the coffin of Obama's and Hillary Clinton's earlier demand for an Israeli settlement freeze.


Ignoring the overwhelming vote in the UN General Assembly in favor of the Goldstone Report, Clinton warned that the Palestinians "risked irking the international community" if they refused to return to the bargaining table. When even the French and British have expressed criticism of Netanyahu's hardline stance, what countries, besides Israel, the United States, and maybe Palau, was he referring to?

The article reiterated the myth now being spread by the Obama administration that the Israeli prime minister is calling for a resumption of "peace talks" without preconditions, ignoring the fact that Netanyahu has, among other demands, made the Palestinian acceptance of Israel as a Jewish state a prerequisite for any settlement.

Concerned that they might think otherwise, Clinton told his audience, "You should not think that President Obama is your enemy," and then offered as proof of America's commitment to Israel, its own rejection of the Goldstone Report.

"No American president can serve in good conscience,"he said, "and not be committed to the security of Israel." Nor, he should have added, could he or she obtain the campaign funding necessary to even run, let alone get elected.


Is there any American president who deserves more cynicism than Bill Clinton about his contributions toward increasing the conflict in the Middle East, both in the past and today?

Want to Stop Israeli Settlements? Follow the Dollars  ...

(Washington Post) June 25, 2009 - Evangelical Christians in the United States also support the settlements, raising millions of dollars for them, according to a recent National Public Radio report. The Colorado-based Christian Friends of Israeli Communities, for example, encourages churches and ministries to connect with "the pioneers of Biblical Israel" through the "adopt-a-settlement program." Sondra Oster Baras, director of the organization's Israeli office, estimates that more than half of the West Bank settlements receive direct or indirect support from Christians, according to the NPR report.

A handful of wealthy businessmen, including American casino magnate Irving Moskowitz, are widely reported to have donated to groups such as the Brooklyn-based not-for-profit Hebron Fund, which raises money to support residents in the West Bank city of Hebron. According to the donation page on its Web site, the organization aims to "keep Hebron Jewish for the Jewish people." Friends of Itamar, also based in Brooklyn, engages in domestic, tax-deductible fundraising for the West Bank settlement of Itamar. All this comes at the expense of the U.S. government, which loses tax revenue by allowing these groups to operate as not-for-profit entities.

Not all support for the settlements comes through charitable organizations. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz has reported that in 2007, the settler organization Amana held "housing fairs" in New York and New Jersey to encourage American Jews to buy property in the West Bank. According to the Jewish Voice and Opinion, a self-described "politically conservative Jewish publication" in New Jersey, approximately 250 people attended and as many as 10 properties were slated for purchase.

Despite U.S. objection, Israel plans 900 homes beyond Green Line

Dov Hikind, the extremist New York City Councilman, is promoting American home ownership in the occupied West Bank. - Haaretz. Sickmaking. Of course the Palestinians are accused of making an unilateral move by aspiring their own independent state. This is what Nasrallah thinks of Obama.

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Tue Nov 17th, 2009 at 11:35:49 AM EST
the US is going broke and is massively over-extended. There will come a point where the US support of Israel cannot be justified compared to the impoverishment at home. Yes we know they are a long way form that yet and i imagine there will be extended militarisation of internal security before the Us finally admits it cannot cope, but that moment will come.

At which point Israel had better have a good answer for the palestinians about how they're gonna make things right.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Nov 17th, 2009 at 12:50:07 PM EST
  "we know they are a long way form that yet"...

    I don't know how we know that 'they [the U.S.] are a long way from that yet'.  It seems to me that this depends entirely on one's idea of what 'a long way' is.  In my view, from here to there is not at all what I'd call a long way.

   Once the US $ comes "unhinged"---as it seems to be in the process of becoming---the time remaining before the U.S. economy's untenable situation becomes too flagrantly apparent even for Americans to ignore or make-believe about is nearly at hand, it seems to me.  When could that happen?  Virtually any time now.

   According to a scenario offered by Nouriel Roubini, there's a massive "carry trade" now fueling the rises in global stock-markets.  Under this view, people borrow U.S.$ and then use them to invest elsewhere than in the U.S., where the returns are better.  This drives current stock-market levels up but it cannot go on indefinitely because there are no valid "fundamentals" to support this behavior.  The carry trade investments will end when enough people reach a level of nervousness at which they're no longer confident in the near-term plausibility of such borrowing---that is, anything that temporarily drives a credible expectation in some (sufficiently inconvenient) increase in the cost of borrowing U.S.§--- and then they'll stop.  When that happens, it could trigger a massive rush for the exits as people sell off the holdings they took on with the borrowed money.

   What would happen then to the exchange value of the U.S. $ when suddenly relatively few or none wanted to hold them any longer?  What would happen to foreign debt obligations of the U.S.?  Would the Chinese stand around as their billions of U.S. credits dissolved into worthlessness?  

  And all the above preceded my finding this, from Roubini's blog:

  "A Tale of Two American Economies"


"In such an environment it is not surprising that the ills of technology should seem curable only through the application of more technology..." John W Aldridge

by proximity1 on Wed Nov 18th, 2009 at 09:35:30 AM EST
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