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by pereulok Sun Mar 1st, 2009 at 05:58:03 AM EST

I was reading today the blog of a Romanian friend, a post on the crisis and the day-to-day possible attitudes towards crisis. Well, to tell the truth, it was a post on despair, on "what can be done", an attitude that have many Romanians nowadays... I don't know if it's a feature on national political culture, like the Russian "shto delat" (что делать, that means "what is to be done"), or something that suits the times of political apathy, but I would define Romania as a country with a deep social depression. As a group, as as individuals, situation and feelings are lively, is just what I says. Kind of despair as a people.

Anyway, my friend offered a pair of options, in question marks, as they're not clear. One of them was: "where can we emmigrate?"

I thought that's a very good example on the Romanian socio-political attitude: as nothing can be done, let's leave the ship and save ourselves.

But she's quite right, isn't she? Where to emmigrate? Not to Spain, this year. Can anyone anywhere leave this ship?


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Can anyone anywhere leave this ship?

No.

This has been another edition of "simple answers to simple questions."

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Mar 1st, 2009 at 08:53:37 AM EST
Or, more to the point, if you can't make a revolution in your own country, what makes you think you can do it anywhere else?

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Mar 1st, 2009 at 08:55:01 AM EST
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Revolution starts at home, then.

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by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 1st, 2009 at 11:49:15 AM EST
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Maybe they should, but history is not so certain about that. Remember for example Che Guevara, who didn't stay in Argentina to try to start his revolution there. Remember all the International Brigades that participated in Spanish War slef-labeled as revolutionaries (as I think that being a revolutionary is a state of mind).

Revolutionaries are peculiar... they are a little like bohemians at the beginning of XX Century, all going to paris because that was the palce they should be...

"If you don't want a man unhappy politically, don't give him two sides to a question to worry him; give him one. Better yet, give him none." (Fahrenheit 451)

by pereulok on Sun Mar 1st, 2009 at 12:24:46 PM EST
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I think that when people think on emmigrating as one of the most clear ways to react to problems they don't intend to start a revolution anywhere else. They just think that no matter if the problem is global and other countries have a worst structural perspective, the way the crisis will be handled at home will make it worse, so better go somewhere else...

"If you don't want a man unhappy politically, don't give him two sides to a question to worry him; give him one. Better yet, give him none." (Fahrenheit 451)
by pereulok on Sun Mar 1st, 2009 at 12:20:36 PM EST
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Do you know, when Romanians gets free movement in the EU? I would guess, it takes a couple of years. The previous round of countries gets (likely) full free movement only in 2011.

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by Martin (weiser.mensch(at)googlemail.com) on Sun Mar 1st, 2009 at 07:00:27 PM EST
It's the same deal as with the previous round of entrants. Up to the discretion of every other EU country for five years - i.e. until Jan 1. 2012. At that point a country can ask the EU commission for the right to further postpone freedom of work for Romanians and Bulgarians for another two years. From Jan 1 2014 they automatically have full work rights.

NB The five year period is about to end for that previous group.

by MarekNYC on Mon Mar 2nd, 2009 at 01:25:41 AM EST
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Italy and Spain had free movement granted for Romanians and Bulgarians this January, although they have the right to review in 6 months.

"If you don't want a man unhappy politically, don't give him two sides to a question to worry him; give him one. Better yet, give him none." (Fahrenheit 451)
by pereulok on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 02:13:48 PM EST
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