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The origins of the Invisible Hand

by JakeS Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 02:33:09 AM EST

Many self-professed fans of Adam Smith seem to think that the parable of the Invisible Hand is either one of meritocracy, or one of economic efficiency. Now, I have not read Wealth of Nations (yet), and I'm not quite finished with Theory of Moral Sentiments, so it's possible that Smith does use the metaphor in those ways later in his works. It is also possible that many self-professed fans of Adam Smith have read more Ayn Rand than Adam Smith...

In any event, this is the first appearance of the Invisible Hand in Smith's books, from Part IV of Theory of Moral Sentiments [paragraph breaks inserted by me]:


It is to no purpose that the proud and unfeeling landlord views his extensive fields, and without a thought for the wants of his brethren, in imagination consumes himself the whole harvest that grows upon them. The homely and vulgar proverb, that the eye is larger than the belly, never was more fully verified than with regard to him. The capacity of his stomach bears no proportion to the immensity of his desires, and will receive no more than that of the meanest peasant.

The rest he is obliged to distribute among those who prepare, in the nicest manner, that little which he himself makes use of, among those who fit up the palace in which this little is to be consumed, among those who provide and keep in order all the different baubles and trinkets which are employed in the economy of greatness; all of whom thus derive from his luxury and caprice that share of the necessaries of life which they would in vain have expected from his humanity or his justice.

The produce of the soil maintains at all times nearly that number of inhabitants which it is capable of maintaining. The rich only select from the heap what is most precious and agreeable. They consume little more than the poor; and in spite of their natural selfishness and rapacity, though they mean only their own conveniency, though the sole end which they propose from the labours of all the thousands whom they employ be the gratification of their own vain and insatiable desires, they divide with the poor the produce of all their improvements. They are led by an invisible hand to make nearly the same distribution of the necessaries of life which would have been made had the earth been divided into equal portions among all its inhabitants [my bold]; and thus, without intending it, without knowing it, advance the interests of the society, and afford means to the multiplication of the species.

When providence divided the earth among a few lordly masters, it neither forgot nor abandoned those who seemed to have been left out in the partition. These last, too, enjoy their share of all that it produces. In what constitutes the real happiness of human life, they are in no respect inferior to those who would seem so much above them. In ease of body and peace of mind, all the different ranks of life are nearly upon a level, and the beggar, who suns himself by the side of the highway, possesses that security which kings are fighting for.

There is a couple of things, listed in no particular order, that I found noteworthy about this story:

  • This is not a meritocratic story, and the people at the top of the heap really aren't very nice, or even necessarily very deserving of their riches.

  • Adam Smith clearly never experienced poverty on his own body.

  • This entire logic hinges upon the notion that "The rich only select from the heap what is most precious and agreeable. They consume little more than the poor." While that is a debatable point even at Adam Smith's time, it certainly does not apply today. One of the results of industrialisation is that those with access to the fruits of an industrial production economy can now consume far, far more than those without. In other words, the Invisible Hand is dead. Industrialisation killed it.

  • Related to the above point, the Invisible Hand distributes only the barest "necessaries of life" - it cannot be counted upon to distribute such luxuries as dental care, running water, electricity or any of the other thousand and one conveniencies that the citizens of modern industrial states surround themselves with.

  • The book was written at a time where health care was more palliative than curative (if even that at all). A couple of pages earlier, Smith makes the point that even the richest and most powerful king is laid as low as the meanest beggar by disease. In a world of quacks and nostrums - Adam Smith's world - there's something to that. In a world of modern, effective medicine... not so much.

  • This is not a story of economic efficiency, it is a story about distribution.

And I'm sure that there are other aspects that I missed.

- Jake

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It seems to be a reflection on an agrarian society?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 02:49:03 AM EST
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Now, I have not read Wealth of Nations (yet), and I'm not quite finished with Theory of Moral Sentiments, so it's possible that Smith does use the metaphor in those ways later in his works.

I would find it likely that he reuses the figure, especially considering how generally he uses the statement - an invisible hand, not the invisible hand.

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by A swedish kind of death on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 04:58:46 AM EST
probably a deliberate variation on the metaphor on the hand of a director god. This was the 18th century after all.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 09:50:24 AM EST
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Smith's priority, i believe, was more or less the landlords. They take what they want, what is left, goes to labour and capital.
by kjr63 on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 06:02:48 AM EST
Have you read him?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 06:44:11 AM EST
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Second hand knowledge mostly from other books. Perhaps i am too hard on him.
You are right that one should read the original and not rely too much on those who criticise him.
by kjr63 on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 07:21:19 AM EST
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Adam Smith did not say a lot of what he's accused of.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 12:34:19 PM EST
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Studying Adam Smith or Keynes or other economic philosophers may be an interesting intellectual pursuit, but it reveals how far their work is from true science.

No one (except historians) reads the work of Newton or Einstein. Scientists use their formulas, not their words to make progress.

In economics, instead, we have too much idol worship and appeals to authorities, this is not science. The reference to Ayn Rand is telling. No one would call her anything other than a utopian, yet her ideas are taken as models of human behavior and public policy by her followers.

This appeal to authority is not restricted to just economics, Freud inspired as many blind followers as Marx.

By now the followers of Smith or Keynes should have produced a solid theoretical and mathematical framework on which to build policy decisions. There is plenty of mathematical output, but none of it passes scientific muster, so we are still in the realm of ideology and not science.

Right now, in the US, economists can't even agree on what caused the 1930's depression and what worked to pull us out of it, yet they are confidently promoting their pet policies. Just yesterday the Republicans floated an idea that what is needed is a spending freeze by congress (I admit there were no economists among them), while at the same time the liberal economists are saying there is still too little federal stimulus spending.

So discussing Adam Smith is fine as long as one understands that this is only an intellectual exercise similar to discussions of Rousseau or Burke or Kant.

Policies not Politics
---- Daily Landscape

by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 08:34:25 AM EST
Well, according to a usually well-informed source (a.k.a. Migeru), the modern summaries of economics are less readable than the originals. That may say something unflattering about economics in and of itself, though...

Einstein's original paper is actually not a bad introduction to special relativity, by the way. The notation hasn't substantially changed since then, and if your German is even moderately good his style is quite readable.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 09:23:14 AM EST
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A year ago you wrote a whole diary around this thesis: Economic Philosophers by rdf on March 2nd, 2008. I challenged you then and I'll repeat my challenge here.
I think you're just wrong on this.

My background is in Mathematics, Physics and Statistics. I have also dabbled in Economics. I have read classic works in all these disciplines. I have Newton's Principia annotated by Chndrasekhar. I have read Archimedes in a couple of different languages and styles of translation. I have read original works from the 17th and 18th hundreds on Probability, and foundations works from the 1920's and 30's. I have read Hilbert's foundations of geometry in the original, I have read Dirac and Feynman, and a collection of original papers on Relativity from 1900 to 1920, and original papers on the interpretation of quantum mechanics all the way from the 1920's. Although my education provided the occasion and in some cases the access to these sources, none of this reading was required for my education, despite what you say here:

When I say no one reads the founders of various scientific disciplines, I'm excluding the study which may take place in the course of one's education, where it is customary to trace the development of science by looking at the accomplishments of various individual scientists. This is a pedagogical use, not a professional one.
In fact, the only people who read the classics and write about them are researchers when they want to go back to principles and cut through the layers of misinterpretation that academics and teachers have heaped on the original sources. Einstein's 1915 paper on GR reads better than many modern textbooks (with some well-known exceptions), but nobody reads Einstein.

In fact, it is in experimental and mathematical sciences that one can go back and read the original sources and they remain as correct as they were back then, because the laws of physics and mathematical truth don't change with time, unlike social sciences which are concerned as much with a putative "human nature" as with the political issues of the day. This doesn't mean that there's no interest in reading classics of the social sciences, and that also has a lot of value, even more given that it is easier to heap layers of misinterpretation or distortion on social science works than it is on "exact" science works. My secondary education did require (unlike my natural science education all the way to the PhD) reading excerpts from greek all the way to modern philosophers, reading The Prince in full for instance and a lot more. And when I turned to trying to learn economics I found textbooks to be a load of tosh and got a lot more from reading Smith, J S Mill or Keynes. Partly because any misinterpretation or distortion by others will be absent, but also because political economy makes more sense in its historical context. Historical context plays a very minor role in the content of "exact" sciences - and when it does it is quaint and amusing (as in when De Moivre uses the Central Limit Theorem to prove the existence of God).

So I disagree with you here:

There seems to be one important exception to this and it is in the field of economics. People discussing economics still quote Adam Smith, Malthus, Ricardo and others who wrote several centuries ago. For a discipline that wants to be seen as a (social) science, this seems odd. The founders of economics lived in times much different than those at present. Societies were not very democratic (if at all), industrialization was just beginning and only affected a few industries such as textiles. In addition monetary policy was still based upon having reserves of precious metals and convertibility between national currencies (or even the use of paper money) was not common. All this has changed, yet the ideas of the founders are still taken as having applicability to present society.
These works should be read (in their historical context) and not (mis)quoted out of context. There is a lot of value in them.
To make the statements of the key philosophers of economics still sound relevant it is common to see that the assumptions that they adopted being ignored when claiming relevance for their ideas.
This is true, but the solution is not to stop quoting them, but to start reading them (something most people who regurgitate classical economics quotes haven't bothered doing because, again, it wasn't required by their education).


Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 09:48:58 AM EST
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I missed that one.

Let's have a Diary, then.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 10:28:45 AM EST
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...this isa Diary....

D'oh...

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 10:29:52 AM EST
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I'm flattered that you remembered the essay, although, perhaps, you only remembered your rebuttal.

It seems that I'm repeating myself. This may either be that I'm stuck in a rut, or that the same issues keep getting raised by new people.

I still think you misunderstand my point. There is nothing wrong with debating social philosophers, but if one wants to base public policy on them then there needs to be an associated scientific structure on which to base decision-making.

Most social philosophers predicate their remarks on some characteristic of human nature that they assume is primary. This over simplification leads the to make bold pronouncements.

Let's see we've had: man is basically selfish, man is basically altruistic, man was perfect until civilization came along, man was corrupted by evil, man is industrious, man is lazy, man is dishonest and man is honest.

Man is the image of a supernatural being, man arose through happenstance, man is perfectible, man is sufficiently imperfect that only enlightened rulers should be able to make policy. Man should be guided by individualism, man should subsume his identity to the greater good, man should sacrifice for the greater good, man should withdraw to his own commune.

I'll leave it to the reader to assign the appropriate philosopher(s) to each over simplification.

As to the question of the moment - which one of these experts has the path out of the global economic crisis? I'd claim none of them. That's why such discussions are just academic exercises. Pleasant, but irrelevant.

Policies not Politics
---- Daily Landscape

by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 11:06:10 AM EST
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I still think you misunderstand my point. There is nothing wrong with debating social philosophers, but if one wants to base public policy on them then there needs to be an associated scientific structure on which to base decision-making.

Most social philosophers predicate their remarks on some characteristic of human nature that they assume is primary. This over simplification leads the to make bold pronouncements.

Yes, that is a very good point.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 02:26:39 PM EST
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You are following one popular way to criticize past social theorists -- attacking foundationalism, which is the notion of modeling the world as if there were basic foundations to the way people do things -- natural laws.  However, that's only one way to criticize great social theorists, and in the case of Smith, Ricardo, and Marx, (and most major scholars today, even in the neoclassical economics tradition) it's not really a fair one.  The founders of "classical" economics shared a belief that some kinds of human relationships are sustainable and some are not due to the simple but powerful logic of people interpreting their lives through the lenses of their own well-being, even when making suppositions about the well-being of others through acts of altruism.  It was based on an analytic appreciation of the importance of a first person experience of life as opposed to a third person experience of it, drawing heavily on pioneering philosophical inquiry by Descartes among other philosophers.  There was no foundational assumption about human nature inherent in their social theory, just a beginning question and discourse about how I, as a person, can know that I am alive and discern what is good or bad in life.

Since their work, critiques of foundationalism in social theory have engendered a vast amount of publications, culminating in the anti-foundational schools of existentialism, deconstructionism, and critical theory (Heidegger, Derrida, Foucault, and their many disciples), with scholars ranging the political spectrum from Milton Friedman to Edward Said all carefully paying attention to un-analyzed assumptions about the world in their work.  The foundationalist arguments for human nature really do exist much more in journalists' reductionist accounts of social theory, not in the actual works of real, trained, social scientists and scholars.  There's a lot more science in social science then you are giving credit for.

by santiago on Mon Mar 9th, 2009 at 02:36:41 PM EST
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While certainly not possessed of the final word on the subject, Smith did a more than any predecessor or contemporary to lay a foundation for a naturalistic understanding of man in society.  His was a remarkably complete and nuanced view as presented in The Theory of the Moral Sentiments and The Wealth of Nations.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Mar 9th, 2009 at 06:23:08 PM EST
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Yes he did, and Darwin is known to have borrowed heavily from the work of the early classical economists and their critics in developing his own theory of how the natural world works.  But naturalistic is not the same thing as the blanket moral laws of human nature -- what theologians and other moral philosophers term "Natural Law."  What Smith does in the parts of the books that nobody reads is explore, widely if not systematically, the historical case evidence for and against his own beliefs about what motivates people to do what they do.  (For example his detailed discussion about the abhorence of infanticide, although infanticide was widely practiced in the Classical Greek cultures which all of Europe was trying to emulate at the time.)

Smith (like his fellow founders of economics, Ricardo and Marx) was a remarkably complete explorer of evidence to be judged against the moral discourse of his time, not a mere pontificator of simplistic assumptions of human behavior.  That's why it's really the beginning of social science and not just bloviating about things.

by santiago on Mon Mar 9th, 2009 at 07:26:01 PM EST
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the invisible hand has become the visible grope.

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 10:11:43 AM EST
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... where the Invisible Hand touched you.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 11:15:40 AM EST
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The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 11:44:54 AM EST
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...invisible Onanism I reckon...

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 11:17:46 AM EST
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...considering it only ever seems to use its middle finger.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 11:42:03 AM EST
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It also seems like a trickle-down parable: the consumption of the rich makes its way to becoming the consumption of all.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 09:53:36 AM EST
The important word there is 'parable' - because that's all economics and business theory have ever been.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 12:21:27 PM EST
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That is certainly true for Neo-Classical Economics.  Mason Gaffney makes a very good case to that effect in Neo-classical Economics as a Strategem against Henry George.  (Hat tip to Chris Cook for the reference.) Gaffney re-contextualizes the work of the early NCE authors and shows how the specifically sought to undermine Henry George, whose Wealth and Poverty was animating the Progressive Movement in the USA and the Liberal Party in England through the time of Lloyd George, at least.  George's idea of a single tax on land and on privileges arising out of exclusive use of commons were proving highly effective in developing irrigation districts in California and providing affordable mass transit in cities in the the eastern USA.  Sensibly applied, these policies would have mitigated against the accumulation of massive wealth by a few.  This was anathema to such as J.P. Morgan and his peers and they recruited the most able opponents they could find and set them up in the economics departments of Ivy League and other Universities whose boards of directors were filled by Morgan and his peers.  One of these economists was Richard T. Ely.  In the library of my wife's grandfather and great grandfather, of which we inherited the bulk, after first editions of Hemingway, etc. had been cherry picked, there are three copies of various editions of Economics by Ely.  Both grand and great grandfathers were Republicans, of course.

Gaffney cites another fascinating work, The Goose Step, a Study of American Education by Upton Sinclair, 1923.  The link is to an online text.  Sinclair describes his own mostly miserable, stultifying experience at Columbia, the University of Morgan,  the nature of the interlocking directorates as exposed in the Pujo Committee of the US House of Representatives in 1913.  Fascinating stuff.  Sinclair describes the purpose of American Education as "keeping America capitalist."  (He also describes how Stanford University was founded on the advice of a medium that Leland Stanford and his wife had employed to communicate with their only son, who had tragically died young, and how, at times, the entire faculty was paid off of the same account as used to pay the servants of the Stanfords.)

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 06:22:26 PM EST
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Thanks for the link ARG, there's interesting stuff coming out of the woodwork...

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 06:39:07 PM EST
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Good catch.

This deserves to be better known. Perhaps an ET/Dkos diary, if you're up for writing one?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 06:47:03 PM EST
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Happy to oblige.  I will try to have one out ASAP.  That might be Monday, depending on the extent of my reading in these sources that are new to me as well.  I am now delving into Henry George's Wealth and Poverty, for which I have found an online source.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Mar 8th, 2009 at 01:40:08 AM EST
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is this one:


But the annual revenue of every society is always precisely equal to the exchangeable value of the whole annual produce of its industry, or rather is precisely the same thing with that exchangeable value. As every individual, therefore, endeavors as much he can both to employ his capital in the support of domestic industry, and so to direct that industry that its produce may be of the greatest value; every individual necessarily labors to render the annual revenue of the society as great as he can. He generally, indeed, neither intends to promote the public interest, nor knows how much he is promoting it. By preferring the support of domestic to that of foreign industry, he intends only his own security; and by directing that industry in such a manner as its produce may be of the greatest value, he intends only his own gain, and he is in this, as in many other cases, led by an invisible hand to promote an end which was no part of his intention. Nor is it always the worse for the society that it was not part of it. By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it. I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the public good. It is an affectation, indeed, not very common among merchants, and very few words need be employed in dissuading them from it.

(IV.ii.6-9, page 456 of the 1776 Glasgow Edition of Smith's works; vol. IV, ch. 2, p. 477 of 1776 U. of Chicago Edition.) (Book IV, Ch. II, page 484-485 Modern Library Edition, New York) (wikipedia)

This is the "each is selfish, and yet we have positive collective outcomes, as if by an invisible hand" version that neolibs love.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 01:01:16 PM EST
The other one they like is this one:
Whether this propensity be one of those original principles in human nature, of which no further account can be given, or whether, as seems more probable, it be the necessary consequence of the faculties of reason and speech, it belongs not to our present subject to inquire. It is common to all men, and to be found in no other race of animals, which seem to know neither this nor any other species of contracts. Two greyhounds, in running down the same hare, have sometimes the appearance of acting in some sort of concert. Each turns her towards his companion, or endeavours to intercept her when his companion turns her towards himself. This, however, is not the effect of any contract, but of the accidental concurrence of their passions in the same object at that particular time. Nobody ever saw a dog make a fair and deliberate exchange of one bone for another with another dog. Nobody ever saw one animal, by its gestures and natural cries signify to another, this is mine, that yours; I am willing to give this for that. When an animal wants to obtain something either of a man, or of another animal, it has no other means of persuasion, but to gain the favour of those whose service it requires. A puppy fawns upon its dam, and a spaniel endeavours, by a thousand attractions, to engage the attention of its master who is at dinner, when it wants to be fed by him. Man sometimes uses the same arts with his brethren, and when he has no other means of engaging them to act according to his inclinations, endeavours by every servile and fawning attention to obtain their good will. He has not time, however, to do this upon every occasion. In civilized society he stands at all times in need of the co-operation and assistance of great multitudes, while his whole life is scarce sufficient to gain the friendship of a few persons. In almost every other race of animals, each individual, when it is grown up to maturity, is entirely independent, and in its natural state has occasion for the assistance of no other living creature. But man has almost constant occasion for the help of his brethren, and it is in vain for him to expect it from their benevolence only. He will be more likely to prevail if he can interest their self-love in his favour, and shew them that it is for their own advantage to do for him what he requires of them. Whoever offers to another a bargain of any kind, proposes to do this. Give me that which I want, and you shall have this which you want, is the meaning of every such offer; and it is in this manner that we obtain from one another the far greater part of those good offices which we stand in need of. It is not from the benevolence of the butcher the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity, but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities, but of their advantages. Nobody but a beggar chooses to depend chiefly upon the benevolence of his fellow-citizens. Even a beggar does not depend upon it entirely. The charity of well-disposed people, indeed, supplies him with the whole fund of his subsistence. But though this principle ultimately provides him with all the necessaries of life which he has occasion for, it neither does nor can provide him with them as he has occasion for them. The greater part of his occasional wants are supplied in the same manner as those of other people, by treaty, by barter, and by purchase. With the money which one man gives him he purchases food. The old clothes which another bestows upon him he exchanges for other clothes which suit him better, or for lodging, or for food, or for money, with which he can buy either food, clothes, or lodging, as he has occasion.
(lifted from the project Gutenberg version.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 01:42:14 PM EST
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On that basis it makes as much sense to canonise Marx as Adam Smith.

Really - who cares what he said? He's clearly wrong about this - or at least not right enough, without nuance, qualification, elaboration or one or two minor other subleties, to qualify for sanctification.

Smith:

When an animal wants to obtain something either of a man, or of another animal, it has no other means of persuasion, but to gain the favour of those whose service it requires. A puppy fawns upon its dam, and a spaniel endeavours, by a thousand attractions, to engage the attention of its master who is at dinner, when it wants to be fed by him. Man sometimes uses the same arts with his brethren, and when he has no other means of engaging them to act according to his inclinations, endeavours by every servile and fawning attention to obtain their good will.

Is this really something to aspire to?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 06:55:17 PM EST
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Really!  Smith is only showing the servile dependence of pets and retainers.  Later in the paragraph he notes that one learns to rely on the self interest of the butcher and baker.  I.e. better pay them.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Mar 8th, 2009 at 01:45:42 AM EST
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Actually, Marx IS canonized as much as Adam Smith.  There is a reason that Smith, Ricardo, and Marx are called the "Classical" economists.  All three of them believed the same Smithian assumptions about markets and motivations for human relationships.  Smith and Ricardo had a benign interpretation of what commodification of labor and land would do for human well-being, while Marx thought it necessarily leads to negative consequences, but they all held the same essentially free-market mental model of how the world works in ideal conditions.
by santiago on Mon Mar 9th, 2009 at 01:55:59 PM EST
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According to Jerry Z. Muller in ADAM SMITH IN HIS TIME AND OURS, DESIGNING THE DECENT SOCIETY 1993, this is the only place in Wealth of Nations that the metaphor appears.  Smith attributed increasing wealth to division of labor coupled to a market for labor and the products of labor.  He was aware that the government had to be vigilant to insure that markets were free and not monopolized or constrained by guilds or others for private benefit.  He also believed that market forces would have a civilizing benefit and would produce a more refined and polite society.

THE THEORY OF THE MORAL SENTIMENTS and THE WEALTH OF NATIONS were a part of a project by Smith to recast the foundations of our understanding of human nature and society upon naturalistic, rather than providential, grounds--otherwise known as "The Enlightenment Project."  This is another reason to doubt that Smith intended the metaphor of the "invisible hand" to represent the action of some divine entity.  That would be the antithesis of all of his work.

I have the Complete Works of Adam Smith and have read significant parts of TMS and WN.  I have read Muller in his entirety. Muller seems to be a good guide to Smith's works.  The Neo-Classical Economists have cherry picked Smith mostly for the "invisible hand" metaphor, which they mis-interpret and they never, to my knowledge, cite his strictures about the need for government regulation of markets to insure their integrity.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat Mar 7th, 2009 at 05:28:09 PM EST
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According to Jerry Z. Muller in ADAM SMITH IN HIS TIME AND OURS, DESIGNING THE DECENT SOCIETY 1993, this is the only place in Wealth of Nations that the metaphor appears.

It is the only place. You can search the entire text on-line.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Mar 8th, 2009 at 07:35:11 AM EST
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Yes, I was going to do a deconstruction of that one too (Mig dug it out for me). But basically, it assumes that the law (i.e. the state) prevents people from hurting each other's interests. A point that neolibs conveniently forget.

And, of course, Smith lived in a time before the stock exchange, so he can hardly be faulted for not realising how immensely profitable pure gambling could be.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Mar 8th, 2009 at 07:33:22 AM EST
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But basically, it assumes that the law (i.e. the state) prevents people from hurting each other's interests. A point that neolibs conveniently forget.

Another of my favourite Adam Smith quotes is

To restrain private people, it may be said, from receiving in payment the promissory notes of a banker for any sum, whether great or small, when they themselves are willing to receive them; or, to restrain a banker from issuing such notes, when all his neighbours are willing to accept of them, is a manifest violation of that natural liberty, which it is the proper business of law not to infringe, but to support. Such regulations may, no doubt, be considered as in some respect a violation of natural liberty.

But those exertions of the natural liberty of a few individuals, which might endanger the security of the whole society, are, and ought to be, restrained by the laws of all governments; of the most free, as well as or the most despotical. The obligation of building party walls, in order to prevent the communication of fire, is a violation of natural liberty, exactly of the same kind with the regulations of the banking trade which are here proposed.



Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 8th, 2009 at 07:43:42 AM EST
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That hits the nail on the head.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Mar 8th, 2009 at 08:00:52 AM EST
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What, we like Adam Smith now? That's unpossible!

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Mar 8th, 2009 at 08:10:07 AM EST
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Coincidences of individual and public good are pretty important. From a Darwinian perspective, they have good reasons to persist and propagate. Those "blessed" coincidences were selected in nature through many boom-and-bust cycles.

But those coincidences are not a given. Opposite coincidences (mostly of individual good, public cost) do obviously happen. In the economic evolution, they were not selected away yet. Even more, post-Smith ideological extrapolation swayed us into accepting that individual profit must not be opposed no matter what. But we are not always luckily blessed with public consequences, to put it mildly. Even well-intended (perhaps...) schemes of incentives mechanisms do not work particularly organically nicely.

by das monde on Sun Mar 8th, 2009 at 11:05:02 PM EST
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das monde:
In the economic evolution, they were not selected away yet.

In terms of economic evolution, I believe that the furry little mammals of partnership-based enterprises will sweep away the dinosaur Corporations and States of conventional capitalism in pretty short order, and that process is well under way.

Returns to rentiers are inefficient. Capitalism will consume itself and emerge in a non-toxic - Co-operative - form, I believe.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Mar 9th, 2009 at 06:48:13 AM EST
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I am pretty sure it is responsible for where my wallet has gotten off to.

"Schiller sprach zu Goethe, Steck in dem Arsch die Flöte! Goethe sagte zu Schiller, Mein Arsch ist kein Triller!"
by Jeffersonian Democrat (rzg6f@virginia.edu) on Mon Mar 9th, 2009 at 09:38:41 PM EST


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