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by In Wales Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 10:16:40 AM EST

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Banana and chocolate muffins, fresh out of the oven. Who would like one?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 10:18:05 AM EST
well you've stopped me writing a diary about policing of protests now im back from the shops, so I've nothing better to do than eat them. They do sound mouthwatering though.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:07:13 AM EST
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I haven't stopped you from doing anything!!! Or at least if I have provided an excuse not to do a new diary then you can add more comments to mine...

And then you can have a muffin. They go very well with vanilla ice cream.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:21:36 AM EST
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Thats a much better way of putting it ;)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:24:16 AM EST
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They go very well with vanilla ice cream.

omg
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by Loefing on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:25:40 AM EST
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especially when soaked in Banana Liquer

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:28:11 AM EST
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Mmmm, yes please.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:20:48 AM EST
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Check your DVD drive/muffin portal.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:22:20 AM EST
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I always find that the phone company employees steal them on the way, and i only end up with random crumbs in mine.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:26:52 AM EST
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Outrageous.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:29:35 AM EST
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Of course it was worse before privatisation, you couldn't even get a DVD drive then.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:33:58 AM EST
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What, you don't have a muffin encryption algorithm?

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt t gmail dotcom) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:44:43 AM EST
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The plans for the public key quantum muffinography machine are on the shelf behind you.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:50:57 AM EST
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Yes, but Muffin Piracy is reaaly on the rise on the internet nowadays.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:51:42 AM EST
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Or CrumbTorrent? But I believe that muffin sharing is now totally out of control. Bakers are going broke, and entire pastry sections are going to rotation. Some retired groups of master confectioners are reforming to go on tour to pay tax demands out of dwindling royalties.

Fortunately we have now closed the Baker Bay in Sweden which maintained a website with links to recipes for cakes and confections. As the triumphant prosecutor stated in his final argument, which had the entire jury salivating, the State is unable to recover the added value tax on this black economy of personal cake making, and the creators of the recipes were denied the royalties from their creations.

However, a proposal by Professor Korvapuusti of the Helsinki University of Delectability for the licensing of domestic ovens is, imho, going too far.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:59:06 AM EST
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It all started going downhill when they started transmitting them by microwave.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:01:01 PM EST
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I started with the old NewMarmeladeTart 450, though icing coverage left a lot to be desired. However, the switch to the GoodSoftMacaroon protocol helped to up the crumbrate,

I'm looking forward to the new Nokia 100c which has a tiny oven door replacing the screen.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:07:57 PM EST
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I tried one, it was localised for the american market though, and delivered the wrong kind of pancakes.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:13:48 PM EST
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You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:17:39 PM EST
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I know just where to get  the ringtone from  for that.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:22:17 PM EST
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"Kinky Sex (Makes The World Go Around)" - 4:17?

Jello Biafra was clearly born for the job.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:31:34 PM EST
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Typical hidebound, narrow minded, Leftist thinking.

What about the bagels?  

What about the crumpets?

What about the baguettes fer christssake?

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:11:16 PM EST
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well I'd buy them but I havent got the dough.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:15:22 PM EST
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Union of Concerned Scientists: Failure to Yield: Evaluating the Performance of Genetically Engineered Crops (2009)

For years the biotechnology industry has trumpeted that it will feed the world, promising that its genetically engineered crops will produce higher yields.

That promise has proven to be empty, according to Failure to Yield, a report by UCS expert Doug Gurian-Sherman released in March 2009. Despite 20 years of research and 13 years of commercialization, genetic engineering has failed to significantly increase U.S. crop yields.

CLICK HERE TO READ COMMON QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT FAILURE TO YIELD



Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 10:38:29 AM EST
Hot stuff!

Failure to Yield: Evaluating the Performance of Genetically Engineered Crops (2009) | Union of Concerned Scientists

Meanwhile, the report found that Bt corn likely provides a marginal operational yield advantage of 3 to 4 percent over typical conventional practices. Since Bt corn became commercially available in 1996, its yield advantage averages out to a 0.2 to 0.3 percent yield increase per year. To put that figure in context, overall U.S. corn yields over the last several decades have annually averaged an increase of approximately one percent, which is considerably more than what Bt traits have provided.

Monsanto's strain of Bt corn is just what Germany banned the other day.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt t gmail dotcom) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 10:42:35 AM EST
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So the real goal of genetically modified seeds is to:

  1. Decrease pesticide use?

  2. Allow Monsanto et al to corner the seed market?  We're the only game left in town.  Buy our seed or starve.

Interesting how we're so concerned with increasing yield.  How about stabilizing demand by adequate human reproduction control?

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 10:53:47 AM EST
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For such huge things as this, why can't states own seeds?  Rather than letting a monopoly dangerously fall into the hands of private companies?  
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:06:41 AM EST
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Howdy In Wales.  How's all that "iron breathing bacteria" doing with you?

Anyway, because our "states" i.e governments have been ... I guess the current term is "captured" ... by the multinational corporations, would it matter?  The state is the company?  Welcome to Soylent Green.  Too bad Charleton Heston died.  He'd appreciate the direction things are going, him being a gun freak and all.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:12:45 AM EST
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I was delighted to learn about the iron breathing bacteria, although I am concerned that perhaps I haven't been taught science correctly because I too did not know they existed.  

Actually now I review my above comment - how about nobody 'owns' seeds?  

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:19:34 AM EST
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Nobody "owns" seeds?  What are you, a pinko commie? Everything must be owned.  I'm thinking of claiming ownership of the world's supply of oxygen.  If you want to breathe, you pay me first.  Damn commie pinko iron breathing bacteria; I'll get them too, somehow!

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:29:57 AM EST
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When I was in Pisa airport one of the bags/shoes/belts shops was selling expensive bags with PINKO written across the side in sequins.

I didn't buy one. The irony of anyone who does... unknowingly probably.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:38:23 AM EST
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Everything must be owned.  I'm thinking of claiming ownership of the world's supply of oxygen.  If you want to breathe, you pay me first.

To Arms Citizens!

The iron breathing bacteria MUST breathe free!!!!

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:44:34 AM EST
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That's the problem.  They don't need O2 to generate energy.  They don't breathe. Little pinko buggers.  

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:13:35 PM EST
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...perhaps I haven't been taught science correctly because I too did not know [iron breathing bacteria] existed.

Unfortunately you studied and learned a squishy, subjective, subject: PChem.  If you'd taken a Real© Science® like Journalism you'd have learned about 'em.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:53:35 AM EST
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Oh, go ahead.  Piss off a P. Chemist at your own peril.  How would you like your jewels (assuming you have jewels) put in a bomb calorimeter and set off.  That'll teach you some respect.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:11:38 PM EST
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She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
by ATinNM on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:40:22 PM EST
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I am such a nerd.  I loved the YouTube!  I need to get a life.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 03:33:45 PM EST
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BTW, that's a vid for an Oraganic Chemist.  Here's one for a P. Chemist.  Nerd on boys!



They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 03:58:56 PM EST
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Yeeaaaahhhh!  Actually I was never that fussed by calorimetry.  But I like firing protons at things.  Into the synchrotron!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:49:00 PM EST
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Another 6 months and they'll have turned the corner .. honest.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:19:45 AM EST
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It's called "yield drag". Here's an exchange from last year.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 03:33:22 PM EST
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ISPs refuse to shut down Pirate Bay - The Local

Internet service providers refuse to cooperate with an entertainment industry group's demand to shut down The Pirate Bay.

Following yesterday's conviction of the four men connected with the popular file sharing site, the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) is demanding that Pirate Bay website be shut down.

But Internet service providers (ISPs) refuse to cooperate, reports the Svenska Dagbladet newspaper.

Neither has the judgement slowed down file sharing. Several minutes after the Stockholm District Court delivered the verdict, almost ten billion files were being downloaded.

The ISPs maintain that the ruling doesn't apply to them.


The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt t gmail dotcom) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:27:16 AM EST
Sailing around Cape Horn in the "uphill" direction. Astonishing document, from 1929 [runtime 36']

h/t R Brenneman

by Loefing on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 11:33:52 AM EST
Wow.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:28:36 PM EST
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Ya. Imagine <filming> from those topsels in the midst of a gale.

eee yyyikes.
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by Loefing on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 12:46:43 PM EST
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This is absolutely stunning to watch. You get a sense of what amazing creatures humans can be, not to mention the design and build of the technology that carries them through beyond the limit conditions.

You also get the flaw in our civilization... "cargo is king. the only thing dry on the ship is the cargo."  "they built netting to catch those washed by the waves across the deck."

And... "the captain doesn't want you to know about him jumping in the storm to catch the two sailors by the hair with his other hand on the 'something", because you're not supposed to desert the ship."

Then again, it's men like these who lift 350 tonne nacelles to tower top at windparks in the North Sea.  Though they don't work in storms, like these amazing films.

I guess if they had safety regs then, none of these ships would have sailed.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 03:38:52 PM EST
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Wonderful comment / summary.

The skipper seems to have been an extraordinary personality. Then again, he was a product of the time and of the necessity for transcontinental commerce. He was simply successful at what he did [as in survival of the fittest].

In the back of my mind, while watching the film, was the idea that this is the kind of labor to which we'll be returning, sooner or later.

Which, for me, adds a supplementary 'wow' aspect to the document.

by Loefing on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 04:44:08 PM EST
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More Britain's got Talent

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keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 01:35:05 PM EST
Astonishing!
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 02:40:03 PM EST
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Man, they're good!

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 03:39:22 PM EST
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Great. Cowell's comments make it seem like a Hollywood, American dream, feelgood movie - if you just believe in yourselves you can do anything, etc. Then there's their motto: Follow your dream not the competition :-) But it's great to see such a positive alternative to the usual negative stereotypes and to a lot of the usual rap strutting, jeans falling off arse, pointing at dick, etc. Sharply dressed guys, very athletic and obviously put a lot of work into it.  Pity about wanting to perform before Queen - a more John Lennon type attitude would have been better :-)

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 04:20:47 PM EST
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I need one badly, without the dingbat music, but I´d rather die from natural RAM loss.

http://cadiesingularity.blogspot.com/2009/04/brain-search.html  

CADIE: Cognitive Autoheuristic Distributed-Intelligence Entity
http://www.google.com/intl/en_us/landing/cadie/index.html  


Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 02:54:23 PM EST
What is a notecard party?

A party in which everyone in attendance receives a set of notecards, each indicating an action that must be performed and a time at which to perform it. what's the point?

Usually the actions on people's notecards interweave in surprising ways. For instance:

  1. one person is told to put newspaper and scissors in the bathroom
  2. another person is told to gather friends and have a boat race in the bathtub
  3. a third is told to go to the bathroom and give a play-by-play of the events there

Each person is pleasantly surprised by the others' cards, and by the support they receive in their activity unexpectedly. This creates an attitude of trust and adventure at the party. In addition, it can be a good way for strangers at the party to get to know each other, and it certainly makes for a more eventful occasion than the average chips and beer event.

I liked this idea, just one of the ideas on Joe Edelman's website.

Events/happenings can be pre-programmed to go off during parties rather like indoor fireworks....

The reason I looked him up was that he is in search of seed funding for his Groundcrew project which is a mobile-based people organising application.

Groundcrew Screenshots

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Apr 19th, 2009 at 07:05:17 PM EST
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