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by In Wales Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 10:59:20 AM EST

How has your day been?


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Doom Pirates today.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 11:03:39 AM EST
World Economic and Financial Surveys 'Global Financial Stability Report: Responding to the Financial Crisis
and Measuring Systemic Risks', April 2009  (hat tip to MOA)

"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 11:18:26 AM EST
money quote:
In this GFSR, estimates for writedowns have been extended to include other mature market-originated assets and, while the information underpinning these scenarios is more uncertain, such estimates suggest writedowns could reach a total of around $4 trillion, about two-thirds of which would be incurred by banks."


"Beware of the man who does not talk, and the dog that does not bark." Cheyenne
by maracatu on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 11:56:46 AM EST
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Freddie Mac CFO David Kellermann found dead - Apr. 22, 2009
The acting chief financial officer of mortgage finance giant Freddie Mac, David Kellermann, was found dead Wednesday morning, police said.

The death "may have been an apparent suicide," said Lucy Caldwell, a spokeswoman for police in Fairfax County, Va.

Authorities said there were no signs of foul play when officers were called to Kellermann's home in Vienna shortly before 5 a.m. ET, Caldwell said. A source familiar with the investigation said Kellerman apparently hanged himself.



Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 11:24:03 AM EST
The death "may have been an apparent suicide,"

What is that supposed to mean? One nuance too much.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:12:29 PM EST
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well it's got quote overload, I understood till then.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:19:10 PM EST
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Well, assuming it was: what did that poor bastard know that we don't?

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:29:41 PM EST
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And how many more "suicides" will follow?  Interesting times.  Hard to believe there's actually a downside to being one of these people.  Who'd a thunk it.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:41:30 PM EST
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I don't know what he knew, but the one thing I do know is that the bastard wasn't poor.

If he felt shame and contrition before his peers for his role isn destoying the lazy justifications of their obscen privilege, then so be it. But he was not down on his luck, his membership of his myriad country clubs were not impacted, his children were not to be sold into slavery or end up working at Walmart. the one thing he wasn't was poor.

More seppuku than the facing a wilderness of hopelessness, a romantic gesture from someone who lacked imagination to believe in a better life.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 02:17:47 PM EST
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I think it's just an example of the poor English spoken by most Americans.  Though it's certainly fodder for conspiracy theorists.  

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky
by poemless on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:50:15 PM EST
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It means Fairfax County, VA, has one inarticulate spokesperson.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 03:46:15 PM EST
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Happy Earth Day.  

Following up on our conversation of Gorbachev the other day, Iast night Charlie Rose interviewed him and George Schultz.  Unfortunately the video is not up yet.  A few interesting tidbits:  I don't remember if it was at Geneva or Reykjavik, but Reagan apparently asked Gorby what Russia would do if America were attacked from outerspace, by aliens. Sounds apocryphal until you remember Reagan.  The two countries agreed that if such a thing were to occur, they would defend each other.  This was a turning point in their negotiations.  LOL.  Also, Gorby talked about the need to expand freedom of the press, freedom of information in the Soviet Union, not because of US pressure to do so, not as a human rights measure, but because there was a lot of resistance to Gorby's reforms, and he felt the only way he get wide support was if people actually knew the facts.  Only then would they understand why he felt it was necessary to make these changes.  And the only way to ensure people had the facts was to open up the press and allow a public dialogue.  Interesting.

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky

by poemless on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 12:01:08 PM EST
The video is up now.

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/10246

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky

by poemless on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:52:50 PM EST
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Chicago Tribune: U.S. to clear way for offshore wind farms

WASHINGTON-- The Interior Department has finalized sweeping rules that clear the way for the first offshore wind turbines to be erected along the Atlantic Coast, the most aggressive move yet from an administration that hopes to shift the nation's offshore energy goals from oil to wind power.

The rules will set long-awaited guidelines for offshore leases, easements and royalty payments, which the Bush administration worked on for years but did not complete. Without the guidelines, potential wind projects in Rhode Island, Massachusetts and several other coastal states could not begin construction.

The department will announce the rules Wednesday, Interior Department officials said, and President Barack Obama will mention them in his Earth Day appearance at an Iowa wind turbine factory.

Offshore wind power is currently used to generate electricity in Europe, where land for traditional onshore turbines is hard to come by. But there are no offshore wind farms operating in the U.S.




"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky
by poemless on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 12:21:31 PM EST
So, is the coast clear?

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 12:21:58 PM EST
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You're on a roll ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 12:23:15 PM EST
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I'm now working on several US offshore projects. Not much I can say publicly at this point.

You cna find hints here or there (pdf).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 04:33:00 PM EST
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Economics and Politics - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com
So Citigroup is profitable because investors think it's failing, while Morgan Stanley is losing money because investors think it will survive. I am not making this up.


Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 12:23:28 PM EST
Economics and Politics - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com

Let's say this slowly: the Bush administration wanted to use 9/11 as a pretext to invade Iraq, even though Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. So it tortured people to make them confess to the nonexistent link.

There's a word for this: it's evil.



Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 12:25:30 PM EST
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I heard this yesterday.  The torture techniques we were using were modeled after the ones used by communist regimes to get false confessions out of people.  What am I missing?

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:44:51 PM EST
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I just need to make sure you don't think communist regimes invented the use of torture to get false confessions out of people.  Waterboarding was around during the Spanish Inquisition.  

Just sayin'...

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky

by poemless on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:48:27 PM EST
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Well Waterboarding and Electric tortures mainly came from the French colonial service,(Who taught it to the Nazis by the way) and isolation and stress positions came from the British.

No one is especially innocent here.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:54:11 PM EST
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I'm sure people have been torturing one another and sadists have been inventing new ways to do it since the beginning of human history  

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky
by poemless on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:57:40 PM EST
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Yes but the legal necessity not to leave marks so it can be denied by governments is a not-so-new feature. previous to this governments did it, and were open about it, because it wasn't seen as being morally wrong.

If you want an Ancient greek example, if torture was applied it was applied as part of the legal system to a mans slaves.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 02:06:58 PM EST
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That would be Torture and Truth by Page DuBois?
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 04:20:03 PM EST
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No Torture and Democracy by Darius Rejali

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 06:42:35 PM EST
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DuBois' 1991 essay is practically dedicated to torture in ancient Greece. I wonder if Rejali cites the essay.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 01:29:15 AM EST
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Yes, in a 40 page bibliography, thats there.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 08:23:56 AM EST
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Thanks! I pulled down my copy and re-read some of it today. Is Torture and Democracy worthwhile?
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 04:08:11 PM EST
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Very worthwhile, of the shelf full of books on that sort of subject, its almost always the first one I turn to when I have questions.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 04:19:00 PM EST
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Maybe even since before the beginning of history.

You don't have to be literate to torture.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 03:44:23 PM EST
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My placing the word "communist" in the sentence simply repeated the original source.  My point is that we were using techniques modeled on other techniques known to generate bullshit, not facts.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 02:03:21 PM EST
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This is interesting.  Which torture techniques get true confessions and which get false confessions?  


"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky
by poemless on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 02:14:01 PM EST
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From my vast experience in this area, ...

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 02:17:38 PM EST
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Ok from my limited understanding of it, torture in the USSR, well, it depended on the era, but was largely used for intimidation (to prevent and quell dissent and subversion) and to obtain useful information.  If this information obtained in a false confession was untrue, it wasn't terribly helpful.  There was no need, say, to get prisoners to back up your story about a plot against the Soviet union, because, unlike Iraq, the US obviously did have weapons of mass destruction, and were aiming them at Russia.  America really did hate their way of life and everything it stood for.  I think they also tortured Nazis and other nationals that really were plotting against them.  And undoubtedly were paranoid and tortured totally innocent people.  So far as domestic incursions went, the laws were constructed in such a way that if they wanted to get you on something, they could.  No false confession required, because everything was so open to interpretation.  They were very philosophical that way.  

While the US was using torture to justify their agenda, the Soviets used their agenda to justify torture.

It just seems like an inadequate comparison to me.

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky

by poemless on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 02:36:51 PM EST
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I hope I'm not comming across as some kind of apologist.  For the record I am without exception opposed to the use of torture for any reason.

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky
by poemless on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 02:42:57 PM EST
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The problem with torture isn't that there are techniques that give you more truth than others. Rather it is that with all of them is that you get both truth and lies and you cannot tell the difference. The ticking bomb fails because if you are told to cut the blue wire you cannot be sure the information you have is better or worse than guessing.

But that's by the by, as Paul Begala said "We -- our country executed Japanese soldiers who water- boarded American POWs. We executed them for the same crime that we are now committing ourselves." the final determining factor is that it isn't what the tortured person says about your country, it's what torturing them says about your country.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 02:24:17 PM EST
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"The problem with torture isn't that there are techniques that give you more truth than others. Rather it is that with all of them is that you get both truth and lies and you cannot tell the difference."

Zactly.

"Talking nonsense is the sole privilege mankind possesses over the other organisms." -Dostoevsky

by poemless on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 02:46:23 PM EST
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The expert interrogators seem to be see their jobs more as detective work - correlating many different accounts for useful information.

I'm sure it's tedious and difficult and requires an exceptional memory for both facts and nuance. But it seems to be the only way to get high quality intelligence, rather than noise and screaming.

Of course some people like noise and screaming, so this approach won't interest them.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 03:33:52 PM EST
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Expert interrogators don't use torture- nor need it- to gather evidence.

Torture belongs to the category of Glory of which absolute truth is a corollary. Absolute Truth has nothing in common with factual truths. "Evidence" gathered through confessions elicited under torture is beside the point. The point of torture is to assert absolute power over raw life, to negate rights, identity, diversity and equality, in the name of Glory.

 

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 05:06:45 PM EST
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Oh and because there was no real necessity for Soviet interogators to use clean deniable techniques, the techniques weren't developed by the  Russians, so they can't have been copied from them.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 06:59:41 PM EST
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That confused the shit out of me.  Would someone mind explaining how Citi makes a profit while MS takes a loss in this situation?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:48:04 PM EST
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LOL, read the comments!

FT Alphaville » Blog Archive » Banking credit catch-22 in action?

  1. taxloss Apr 22 14:43 Is this the counter-cyclicality we were promised?
  2. ! Report The Itch Apr 22 14:26 So, you can buy an egg for 7 cents and sell it at 5 for a profit.
  3. ! Report Tears for Tier 1 Apr 22 14:17 I keep dreaming that I'm holding a fish, and I can't afford to pay for it.


Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 04:07:12 PM EST
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Holding To Account
Own Credit CVA

Now what about Citi? It has the same pricing model as GS, which calculates a FV of $1m. So surely C recognises a financial liability of $1m? No. Again, accounting standards differ slightly in wording, but in principal the fair value of a liability is the price at which an entity could extinguish any future obligations, in an arm's length transaction. I.e. "What price would a counterparty be willing to cancel/settle the trade at now. Well, we have seen above that GS, and probably the rest of the market, would accept $700k to cancel the deal. So, Citi gets to write the liability down to $700k. In accounting terms:

DR Financial Liabilities $300k

CR Principal Transactions $300k

Yes, you have read it correctly - Citi has made a profit of $300k as a result of becoming less creditworthy!!! In accounting/industry spreak, Citi has made an Own Credit CVA of $300k.
Read the whole post.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 04:15:04 PM EST
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That's what "mark-to-what-you-feel-like" is all about: use the rules in full when they are to your advantage, and relax them when they aren't.

Some banks have actually been buying up their own bonds (for amounts less than their full face value), so it's not completely cut off from reality.

And think of when companies make losses - they suddenly get to pay less taxes, which ends up increasing their net profit is they can deduct these losses from significant earlier (or book provisions for later) gains...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 04:30:25 PM EST
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Jerome a Paris:
Some banks have actually been buying up their own bonds (for amounts less than their full face value), so it's not completely cut off from reality.
So these counterintuitive profits from deteriorating creditworthiness are an instance of overhedging.

These accounting rules attempt to make balance sheets neutral to credit risk. But if the market overprices credit risk the CVA correction overshoots and you get a net profit from deteriorating credit.

Most economists teach a theoretical framework that has been shown to be fundamentally useless. -- James K. Galbraith

by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 04:49:56 AM EST
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The Bridges Weekly News Digest is really good this week:

  • Lamy Urges Countries to 'Remain Vigilant' against Protectionism
  • Obama Administration Not Ready to Support Carbon Border Tax: Kirk
  • Norway Threatens WTO Suit if EU Bans Seal Imports
  • Monsanto Mulls Legal Action as Germany Bans Strain of GM Maize
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:23:52 PM EST
Monsanto Mulls Legal Action as Germany Bans Strain of GM Maize

That's the fruit of successful EP election pressure on the CSU.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:55:37 PM EST
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I watched a roundtable on phoenix, I think, on this issue last night or this morning (memory is hazy). Some speaker of the greens was asking Seehofer to apologise for not banning Mon 810 himself. Seehofer of course allowed the use of Mon 810 in the first place, but then no one expects him to stick to any position anymore.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 02:04:07 PM EST
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What would the basis, if any, of this legal action? The German Constitution? European laws? International treaties?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 04:39:28 PM EST
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A massive sense of entitlement

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 04:46:43 PM EST
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Any idea how German courts typically react to such a case?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 04:53:33 PM EST
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This seems like a good time.  Will Lady Jesus be arising this Sunday?  If so, let's get the plan started.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:48:12 PM EST
Hi there, I was at the gym.  Back now but The Apprentice is on in 10 minutes.

I was thinking of starting a diary telling the world how I've now come to realise that I am Jesus herself, because The Twank told me so, and lo and behold He has returned - as an atheist woman.

I shall give my bit of speil on how I just don't believe it but assuming all is true... then you interrogate me or something? Then I start to put two and two together and maybe make 4, maybe make 5... Don't know.

What do you have in mind?

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 03:51:40 PM EST
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And it is dead on Sundays here.  I am wondering if Jesus ought to pick a better day for her PR machine to start up?  Maybe tomorrow evening?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 03:52:46 PM EST
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Timing:  Tomorrow is BAD for me ... tutoring starting in the early AM and till 4 PM CA time.

Sunday here is dead.  Maybe this little bit will liven it up, if people know it's happening or am I kidding myself?

Let's start with appropriate day/time, then consider content.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 03:57:17 PM EST
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I can't do Friday,  Maybe Saturday or Sunday then?
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 04:02:40 PM EST
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Should we canvas the folks in tomorrows OT?  Find a day they would want to do this bit.  This has the makings a group effort, if it's going to be fun.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 04:04:44 PM EST
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Alright then.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 05:35:53 AM EST
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Very good.  I've got to blow out of here for the Sac State campus in about 4+ hours.  Hopefully the day's OT will be up before then.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 at 06:40:02 AM EST
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Wind energy factory in Trinity IA.  When will we see Jerome with Obama at the White House?  Com'on Jerome.  Time for your 15 minutes of fame.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 01:57:53 PM EST
Anyone seen this?

Blackout Europe | Home

The European open internet is under imminent threat

URGENT - VOTING IN EU PARLIAMENT 5th of MAY 2009
Don't let the EU parliament lock up the Internet! There will be no way back!

is it Eurosceptic nonsense? or should we be taking it seriously?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 02:33:50 PM EST
I've been hearing similar things for a few months too. I think the threat is actual in terms of the legislation, you can bet NuLab hands such as Blears & Purnell will be pushing this as hard as they can.

However, I also believe it will be an authoritarian grab too far for them. The population will not wear it, anymore than when Purnell floated his idea of a uk-wide white list of permitted sites. They can pass all the legislation they want, it'll be burnt down by reality. I suspect they already know this.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 02:40:03 PM EST
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the proposals for e-urope are thrown out: eEurope - An information society for all

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 03:16:31 PM EST
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I've finally found an internet café overlooking the beach. I've had to use it to do some work, but given how limited my access is, my presence online has certainly been limited (hmmm... it sounds like I'm more on holiday from ET than from work...)

And I still have a couple of these to look forward to:


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 04:27:14 PM EST
Welcome 'back' ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 04:43:58 PM EST
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Anyone got any idea why I can't see any pictures of dKos all of a sudden ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 04:38:31 PM EST
Who's dKos?
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 05:08:46 PM EST
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by eloise (Eloise) on Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 at 05:23:46 PM EST


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