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Photography Blog #89

by LEP Sat May 30th, 2009 at 05:06:09 AM EST

                       

What's Michael Steele doing in Paris? It looks like he's surreptitiously running as a member of the Socialist Party for the European Parliament. The Republicans have screwed up so badly in the U.S. that they're obliged to come to Europe to make any headway. There's a danger that soon we'll all be waving tea bags here in France. Of course, if I waved a tea bag, it would have to be a "Mariage Freres" tea bag. Welcome to the 89th E.T. photo blog. Post anything you like but post a lot. We'll also be having "ask the experts."

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Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 03:47:47 PM EST
The owners of this place in the 2nd arondissement are wondering why business is so slow.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 04:37:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Great catch... :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 05:38:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
"Who's your Daddy?"



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 04:44:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]
careful, E'll 'Ave yer (Said in best film cockney gangster)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 04:48:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Would that be a "Shrink's" bowlfish ? As he speaks as Eliza... :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 06:02:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I like this visual analogy... Just next door!

What did you say ?...

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 05:53:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Excellent poster.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 06:31:26 PM EST
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Yes, I "captured" it to "expose" it more, as I think it's really important and many aren't detected soon enough in school... Just as other senses!

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 06:51:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Translation:

AT SCHOOL
A CHILD
WITH A HEARING DISABILITY
SHOULD NEVER
FEEL WHAT
YOU FEEL
RIGHT NOW
AS YOU READ
THESE LINES.

Add blanks as per poster.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 02:22:00 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Thanks. It sums it up very well.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 04:12:18 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Merci afew... It was late last night, but I should have done it!

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 05:30:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Pas de problème!
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 05:41:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In Istanbul, Bosphorus side of Pera... I had to move, because Obama was passing a bit further!

The street that was a stair...

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 05:57:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]
From the terrace of the fashionable 360° night club... :-)

Istanbul at night...

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 06:01:02 PM EST
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Lovely cityscapes and effects.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 11:30:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Did you use a special process for this photo?

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 12:42:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Er... No !
Shot hand held on the terrace of the 360° club... (and not a very steady hand as the drinking had already started)!
1/40th, f/1.8, 6400 ISO... A bit of "grain" in the sky and the shadows but no real patchy noise !

Quite a change from all the previous cameras I've had, including film!

I didn't have time to change some settings (we were leaving for dinner) and it was really dark. I couldn't see half of what is recorded on the picture...

Next trip maybe... :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:04:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I asked because the photo has a highly saturated look and resembles somewhat the photos that tzt posted in the early days of the photoblog, quite a while ago. I don't remember the name of that process she used but if I'm adventurous I will go go back in time and look.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:40:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I found it; it's called HDR.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range_imaging

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:53:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, I might have contrasted it a bit (I use Lightroom) and other usual tweaking... But nothing drastic, no voluntary "process" :-)
Might be the Nikon "Exceed" saturation (in the chip)?

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 01:57:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ah, no, no HDR (compositing several pictures shot at different light settings to extract information in the over-shadowed as over-blown parts of the pictures, sort of  re-creating the contrast range of films..)!

Playing with HDR can lead to over-processed pictures, having a look quite similar to an illustration (drawing), some like it, other not :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 02:03:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I think In Wales posted some also, more recently.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 02:19:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
By the way, I like the look. I'm just trying to figure out how you achieved it.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 02:22:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Part of the processor of the D700/D3, I believe, and part on D-Lighting (in camera and in software NX2).
As I don't use the Nikon software, I tweak a bit the "recovery" and "fill light" sliders, enhance a bit contrast and tune down a bit luminosity...

Er... That's all I can say... No magic technique, apart the one in the camera :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 03:35:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I've done HDR stuff but I think tzt's early saturated and contrasty photos were from cross processing film. Or if it was digital, photoshop to achieve similar effects. I love that look.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 04:29:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I've done both but I think LEP meant my cross-processed stuff. High on contrast and saturation. Some were film (slide film developed as negatives), some were digital fakes.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 08:12:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Everybody cannot be at Roland Garros...

A higher viewpoint...

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 06:12:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
On the beach but not too close to the water!


Tracks in the sand


Sand like snow


Lonely flower


Another lonely flower


Bee seeing you


Any closer and even you could get the point


Future sea nymph

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 11:05:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Gringo,
I`m sorry I`ve been tardy, but I remembered a few shots that I`ve come back to.
The patterns in the sand from an ocean breeze remind me of the large pendulum carving "Spirogyro" patterns.
The little future nymph reminds me of my daughter as a baby, who now has to deal with future nymphs herself, my granddaughters.

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by Knucklehead on Thu Jun 4th, 2009 at 03:39:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Where did all the water go?


Beaches can become monotonous...


unless there are other interests...


like Laughing Gulls...


or old standbys like pelicans.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 11:16:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

What's this?


Hummm, I see.


I only had one!

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 11:20:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]
They are good those Crispy Creme doughnuts; quite caloric though ;)

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 04:31:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I'll admit to having one, just one, but yes highly caloric and probably full of fat.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 10:11:17 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Blue Note Cafe at Memphis International Airport

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 11:27:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Not a bad place.  I had lunch there last year while waiting for a flight.

There's a really great little rib place on a back alley off 2nd Street called Rendezvous.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 10:05:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]
We had lunch there also.  Friendly service, but the AP doesn't offer much variety. Typical, I guess.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 10:09:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The AP?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 10:10:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Sorry - non standard for "airport."

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 07:26:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 09:11:44 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Is this Potemkin's original house?
by Fran on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 11:55:37 AM EST
[ Parent ]
well one person here knows where it is at least.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 12:12:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Is that the Duke's country house?


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 08:59:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]
only in the dreams of the most ardent republicans. That is the never quite completed home of one of the Gunpowder plotters, Lyvden new Bield.  built by the either the same person who built the triangular building I posted last week, or his son.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 10:18:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Some photos taken from a rooftop

Pink sunrise near Sagrada Familia

by amanda2006 on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 12:42:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Before sunset, near Park Guëll

Tibidabo and Collserola Tower, by architect Norman Foster

by amanda2006 on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 12:50:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Close up abstract of the Senedd

Photobucket

Front view of the Senedd with wide angle lens - stunning building but surprisingly hard to get really good photos of.

Photobucket

The Senedd from the war memorial

Photobucket

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 03:39:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]
More, more...! :-)
A Richard Rogers' design, with references to Fuller's Dymaxion's House !
It tags well along E.T.'s Energy discussions... :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 03:47:53 AM EST
[ Parent ]
It does actually. I've wanted to diary this building properly for a long time both from the architectural and eco friendly perspective and also because the design of the building is hugely symbolic of our unique political environment in Wales.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 03:50:48 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Are these photoshopped? Since when do you have such blue skies in the U.K.? ;)

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 03:49:52 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm looking at a similar blue sky right now. Less of your cheek, young man.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 03:51:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Millennium Centre in the background

Photobucket

Taken from the front of the Pierhead Building

Photobucket

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 03:57:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Did you happen to go inside?

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 05:41:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes and I do have interior shots too but I want to go back inside the public gallery and take photos there which I didn't do last time. It is only down the road.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 07:18:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Please... :-)
And with views of the central "mushroom like" ventilation column if you can... (As it seems it's the main purpose of the design)!

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 03:44:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Last night:

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In France eating is a serious business - even for these (mainly) ex-pats.


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The American husband (in white shirt) of the French woman (in red dress) pays - the women agree: "Men with cards are so useful" :-)


anne-g-wine-bar-3711

"I forget how many glasses I've had"


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"I need to catch up"

On the way to Marseille:

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Marseille could do with more green spaces:

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Hotel bar:

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View from the hotel over a racecourse:

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The Panier area:

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View from Le Petit Pavilion restaurant - almost empty as it's a bit outside town and main tourist routes:

a-senset-marseille-3290


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affiche-jeunes-sansp-3335


ab-affiche-3334


Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 08:55:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]
A very impressive set of images of the posters.
The people shots = a slice of life. Very cool.

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by Knucklehead on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 06:19:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]


'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:02:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]


'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:03:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]


'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:04:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]


'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:05:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]


'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:07:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]


'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:08:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Great dawn on a great landscape... :-) Aaah, the Apennines, the backbone of "Mare Nostrum", the one we all share...

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:18:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:54:30 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I really like the second one :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:55:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]
That's a photo of estHer, taken by her friend, the subject of the first photo. Her friend is also quite a good photographer; her father's a professional.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 06:08:20 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The Twilight zone dweller... (Explaining the low contrast) :-)

Ze Margouillat...!

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 06:25:53 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Merci afew :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 06:26:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]
And thus the name hemidactilus, as afew spotted rightly, this one will soon have some fingers chopped out (half-fingers in geek, er...Greek)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 06:29:36 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I put the first one out of sight. It can return if you wish.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 09:11:34 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Non, non...!

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 09:51:55 AM EST
[ Parent ]
ask the experts

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Thu May 28th, 2009 at 03:48:36 PM EST
Anyone else use photobucket, and looked at photobucket stats graphs?

and if it actually works, why are people from E.T. obsessed with a photo taked several years ago of a set of scales that shows my weight?

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 09:07:17 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes, just yesterday.  Interesting.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 10:12:32 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Ditto, yesterday.

There are obvious and expected peaks for photos I've posted on Open threads, but a couple of unexpected results for old ones as well. However, I suspect those readings come from another site that has long, ongoing threads (some of them years old), and that a view statistic is generated every time the thread is opened, even if the photo in question is fifty pages back.

by Sassafras on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 07:40:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I suspect as much as well, just don't understand what could possibly lead to that picture.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 09:57:20 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I keep hesitating each time between choosing an AF prime or an AI/AIS (Nikon) one.
With the Manual Focusing one's(MF), the results are particularly sharp and spot on, while with the Auto Focus (AF) one's mileage varies :-)

I'm a bit on the lazy side, so when I don't know if I'l be using the camera at all (it's always with me), I tend to have a 50mm AF on and a 20mm AF in my pocket.

Still, when I force myself to only use my old MF lenses, I find that:

  • I'm quicker then with AF (and that's even counter intuitive for me)
  • The pictures are sharp.
  • The Depth of Field (DoF) is usually just what I wanted it to be (On Nikon's DSLRs, those MF lenses are to be used in Aperture priority or Manual setting modes- This can explain that :-) )

I believe that I do not hold properly the camera with an AF lens, the focusing ring moving all by itself under my fingers, doesn't allow me to hold the lens as I would do in MF.
Then, I'm still not used to shift the Aperture by those command wheels instead of the lens aperture ring (though I can modify this on the camera's settings)!

I was wondering if some others shared these observations or had any counsels ? Or am I becoming a luddite ? :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 06:11:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I had to do some product shots recently. I was using a professional Nikon AF lens, close to the focus limit.

With AF the focus was more miss than hit. I couldn't get a really sharp result until I turned off the AF and focussed by hand.

The focus location was right on the object, with a focus spot parked on top of it, so I wasn't trying to focus on some random thing elsewhere in the frame.

I've noticed this before with AF - it's very much not perfect, and if you want an extra level or two of sharpness it's best to focus manually.

I'd guess it depends on the algorithms in the camera too.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 06:27:52 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I've usually preferred manual focus - probably due to my years as a film cameraman before AF. If you build up a working experience of depth of field at different stops, you can set distance even without checking the finder. I had a focus-puller who unerringly spun the focus ring to the right spot and who could follow subjects as they moved nearer or farther away. I could not do that.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 06:42:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Grumbling... Your answers will have the effect of ruining me a bit more (on the photographic side), as I expect to go to the photo fair of Bièvre, more for the show at first, but now I might invest in some of those "missing links" in my usual range... :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 07:00:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]
And while I am no Luddite, autofocus, autoexposure and auto-almost anything tend to remove the need for an understanding of how photography works and thus 'breaking the rules' is beyond most photographers.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 07:13:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Ah.. I agree, but Auto-Iso is a new interesting variable !
In film times it was the mythical variable ISO film that many dreamt of :-)
Nowadays you can have, say a 180mm long lens, set in manual for 1/250th, a given aperture for standard light and the effect you want... And presto, the ISO moves around to follow the correct exposure !

With modern cameras going up to 6400 ISO without much noise it can be very helpful and leave the basics to the photographer :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 11:32:25 AM EST
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There are at least several variables in providing a good answer to your questions.  For me, the primary purpose for which the lens will be used is the most important variable.  For example, I love doing closeup candid shots of children - not an easy task for a manual focus lens when depth of field is purposely kept shallow, light is low, and one is close to a lively subject (tho small flash is often a good equalizer).  On the other hand an adult or oolder child portrait or landscape situation will usually provide ample time to manually focus and the results are more predictable.

Visual acuity is another important factor for me.  I simply can't see well enough to focus accurately manually unless the light is just right and the object of focus fairly close relative to lens focal length. Short primes can be particularly difficult.

I have one of the new Nikon AF-S 50mm f1.4s. It auto focuses fairly quickly and accurately even at f1.4, but it can't match manual focus results of my old Nikon 55mm f2.8.  Some of my AF candid shots have not been as sharp as I would like, but without AF I would have missed not only these but many shots that were sharp.

Bottom line is you'll have to continue to do as you have and make up your own mind and live with the consequences.  I resigned myself to that fate long ago.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 10:06:56 PM EST
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I can fully relate with your bane... (Er.. Maybe too much of Tolkien :-) )
Portraits are my favorite too, as, what can be more interesting for a human being then another human fellow!

Lately, when buying my latest camera, I got the 50/1.8 AF (the cheap plastic contraption) because I had the original 50/1.4 S (the F's one) as the 55/2.8... The new camera (D700) surprised me in many ways, but mostly because it was spot on in MF, as the "little green LED" (the focusing aid) is framed with arrows (left or right) telling you which side you need to turn the focusing ring to achieve focus...(Phew, that was a long phrase for a simple move).
Even in dark settings and at f/1.4!

When I compare the pictures I've made, the MF lenses usually wins... But then, my best lenses are MF (180/2.8, 85/2, 35/2 O.C., etc) because either I already had them from older times or because they where cheap enough to try...

I'm wondering if those lenses were AF, it wouldn't be exactly the same :-)
So, I'm still torn in choosing the next lens to get at the Photo Fair !
(Actually, I'm leaning toward the 105 Micro AF, VR or not) because of portraits and critters...)!

Following are two examples: One of Paul Virilio (good friend and ex co-teacher) in bad light and at 5600 ISO (!) with the 180/2.8 and one of a student in a recent trip to Istanbul in good light with the 50/1.8...

Paul again... Moody...


"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 03:33:04 AM EST
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The detail with the manual lens seems better.
By the way, have you seen this article and review posted by Torres two weeks ago.
http://www.rytterfalk.com/2009/04/20/initial-dp2-review-with-full-size-shots/

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 04:09:42 AM EST
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Eh, eh... That's what I feel too :-) But then it's the 180/2.8 AI that is an exceptional lens in whatever version (AI, AIS, AFD)!!! I bought mine used when I was 25 (Eeek)!

Thank you for the link ! The DP2 seems a good pocket camera, but those aren't my cup of tea... I used to go everywhere with a Bronica SQ 6x6, even on top of mountains (younger then). So weight or conspicuousness isn't a problem for me, on the contrary.
I feel that once the camera (and the photographer) is seen frankly, he isn't felt as a menace after some time... And big cameras often help for a chat :-)

Though I came into digital with the Coolpix series (swivel ones), I do like the 24x36 feel. I might change when getting older still or when Leica will have a true M something (though I would need to win the loto then...) :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 04:36:27 AM EST
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Just to add that what bothers me more is the lens size. Or to be more precise, those new zooms that are just monstrous (Aka 24-70/2.8)!

I often dream at a zoom that would be as the Leica Tri-Elmar, three primes in one lens, no in between focal length.
A 35-50-85, f/4 would be a dream for traveling :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 04:49:44 AM EST
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margouillat:
I bought mine used when I was 25 (Eeek)!

So that was about 15 years ago ;)

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:07:57 AM EST
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That's what my parents did... After they were 40, their birthday cake was definitely stuck with the same number of candles... I didn't realize until much older, as it seemed normal at that time :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:13:42 AM EST
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margouillat:
105 Micro AF, VR

This is my favourite lens of all time.  My photography tutor from my college course last year has the non-VR and he totally coveted mine and borrowed it a couple of times and came back drooling.  It is an amazing lens. I didn't really know what I was buying at the time but I am so glad I did.

If you are used to MF you'll enjoy it - the AF has trouble sometimes and can't lock easily.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:26:11 AM EST
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and came back drooling

Not cheap, but it seems worth it !
I was used to the 85mm on DX for portraits, so I guess the reach of the 105 would compensate somewhat that habit in FX ?
Anyhow, and even if LEP thinks I'm a youngster ( :-) ), I like shooting small critters in summer in my favorite island and can feel my back or my legs when kneeling or sprawling in the thorns with the 55 or the 60/2.8 AFD...!
This one will give me a bit of respite... Till old age when I'll need a 300 or 400 micro !

Fly fishing...

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 05:49:26 AM EST
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IMHO you may be making too much of lens sharpness vs. style, composition and other factors.  I like both of these portraits and find both are more than adequately sharp. There are, of course, differences in lens resolutions, but you would need to enlarge the detail considerably and ensure other conditions were the same to really compare them. The photo on the left may say more about the D700's capabilities in low light than about lens sharpness.

There are many web sites on lens performance, but  Ken Rockwell's Nikon site has a pretty good discussion and some side by side tests of many many Nikon lenses and their performance as well as candid remarks about other factors. If you or others haven't visited the site, I would recommend it.  Again, personal preference, experience, and opinion differ so be aware.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 10:36:52 AM EST
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You are absolutely right, of course... :-)
In fact, I'm not searching sharpness "per se", and many great pictures aren't that sharp anyhow!
Let's say it's a by product of testing MF and AF (hyperfocal and al)... The 50 is short, hassle free, and cheap (It can take some beating), while the 180 needs the two hands, a bit of thinking and some good positioning :-)

I'm a bit on the "longer" side of focal lengths (even in film days), the 85/2 AI is for me the everyday strolling lens (even for architecture), the 50 is really great, but I feel I would like to try in the 105/135 department...
Those two focals are in DC or micro (for the 105). The DC is for "defocusing" in portraits (I used nylons on enlarger's lenses in old times ;-) ), so the micro/macro one is very tempting.
The 105/1.8 AIS seems the good size to keep in a (big pocket), it's MF.
The latest 105 ED VR is really big but looks like a superb lens (In Whales).
If I find a cheap and clean 105 AIS I might give it a try, if not... I'll break the Piggy Bank and get the Macro VR one for Father's day :-)

As a side note I usually find myself agreeing with Bjørn Rørslett quite often...!

When I'll win loto, I'll get the 85 PC :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 01:40:22 PM EST
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Does anyone have any hints on how to clean a clogged print head? My Canon iP5200 photo printer is making stripes on my work process prints (eeeeek!) even after four deep cleanings and a night of soaking the print head in a mix of distilled water and alcohol.

The new print head seems to cost almost as much as a new printer. Meh.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tzt) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 04:01:42 AM EST
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While I never used canon printers, on my epson there was a re-calibrating process as, often, it's the misalignment of the heads that gives those stripes (and clogged heads too)!

I was so fed up with those inkjet printers that could be given free with a full batch of ink cartridges that I got a Laser one (Epson too- C1100)... It's been two years and it still uses the original cartridges (I should change them now as they're almost empty).

Quality for pictures might not be as high then a high end inkjet printer, but honestly, family can make a difference between those and the next door quick photo service... :-) And they are almost waterproof (the prints), no drop of whatever smearing the ink...!

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 04:44:59 AM EST
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You're sure it's not the ink cartridge, I presume?  I've kind of given up on ink jets because of this kind of problem. Even new cartridges can clog if kept on the shelf too long.

The usual answer to a clogged print head, after making the kind of effort you have, is buy a new one. Another reason to hate ink jets.  Good luck though.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 01:58:41 PM EST
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Aaargh... Yes that was another peculiarity of those printers... Plus the fact that those cartridges are just half full, usually...!

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 02:05:51 PM EST
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Thanks, all. I guess I'm off to the printer store tomorrow. :-p

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--
by tzt (tzt) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 03:17:03 PM EST
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Recent trip to Joshua Tree park in California. The desert was blooming.

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by Upstate NY on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 02:39:45 PM EST
I love Joshua Tree.

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 03:30:40 PM EST
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Upstate NY
As a lover of Joshua Tree, I love the series of shots from there.
I`ve taken quite a few trips out the to spend three or four days in a place alien to most others on this planet, with it`s plant & animal life, & the unforgettable rock formations.

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by Knucklehead on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 06:22:28 PM EST
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I was floored by it, and yes we spent three days there.

I thought your signature related to Joshua Tree, until I realized...

My big mistake was staying in Palm Springs, a town I found to be frightfully awful, and a full 45 minutes ride from Joshua Tree. The town's outside Joshua Tree were scarier, but at least I could have avoided the drive.

by Upstate NY on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 07:31:50 PM EST
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I'll take a campground or - gasp - a motel in 29 Palms or Joshua Tree over a hotel in Palm Springs :-)

The brainless should not be in banking. — Willem Buitler
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 08:13:08 PM EST
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Terrific pictures, and stunning landscapes!
by Nomad (Bjinse) on Tue Jun 2nd, 2009 at 03:57:15 AM EST
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SKY SPIRIT

 SKY SPIRIT DSCN7114

CHROMED DOME

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COLORED SECTION

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QUE PASA

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SUNLIT FOREREEF

 FORE REEF DSCN4402

CAN YOU SEE ME NOW

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YUCCA MOON

_ TONIGHT`S MOON DSC0023

BIRTHING POD

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NITROUS OXCIDE & PARANOIA (lower right)

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OLIVIA`S ORCHID

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BANZAII BANGAII

 BANGAII CARDINAL FISH DSCN0340

RASTAFARIAN

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HAND OF HOPE

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SUBDUED VANITY

 SUBDUED VANITY DSCN3368

PURPLE REIGN

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HAHAHAHAHA

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COURT JESTER

 COURT JESTER  DSCN3091

DON`T SAY THAT, PLEASE

 BART`S DAD DSCN6227

IT`S ALL GOOD

SARGENT MIOR REFLECT  DSCN5602

WATCHING ORB
(spiny urchin)

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HARRIER TAKE-OFF

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BLUE DOTS

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MATING FLAIR

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I HEARD THAT

 REDHEAD RAT  DSCN3776

KNUCKLEHEAD
(with my 37 Flathead, & my 37 Knucklehead)

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TGIF

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BLOW ME

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The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.

by Knucklehead on Fri May 29th, 2009 at 10:32:55 PM EST
Those UW pictures are gorgeous... :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 03:49:51 AM EST
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margouillat,
Thank you, I take pride in hosting these specimens in the most healthy home away from home as possible.
Some people come to my house & want to know how I get the "artificial" fish to move around like that, floating in a medium so clear, it`s only detectable by the rippling effect on the surface.
Some think it must be done with magnets.
Who knew.

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by Knucklehead on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 06:28:22 PM EST
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Some of the most amazing photos I've ever seen.

Wonderful

by Upstate NY on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 07:33:39 PM EST
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Upstate NY,
Thank You, all but the first three were shot at my house. The top three were shot at a pond I built for a friend.
I`m glad you enjoyed them.
BTW, I`ve spent a few months in Lexington, near Jewitt or Windham in the catskills. Are these places familiar to you?
If so I have a few questions.

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by Knucklehead on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 10:25:53 PM EST
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Knucklehead,
The Catskills are the only part of this state I do not know well. And I've been literally in every other nook and cranny. But I've never been to the Catskills other than a dinner in Red Hook and Woodstock. I'm in Buffalo now.
by Upstate NY on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 12:48:28 PM EST
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Maybe you could show us the whole thing ? A diary on how to build a house for fishes ?
When very young a friend of my parents going abroad gave me his aquarium... I've learned then that it's quite a job to tend to those fishes :-)

Now I must find my jacket "Live to Ride"... :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 06:20:13 PM EST
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margouillat
"Ride To Live" is the other half of the quote on your jacket.
Here`s a quick shot of one of my worlds.
This is a six foot long reef.
Here`s a link to one of my blog pages with a little video of some action.
You can also browse through the archives there to see many more images of my "Denizens of the Deep".
All images throughout the blog can be clicked to more.
Enjoy, & I hope you like my images of one of my hobbies, besides growing flowers, & rescuing birds, & other animals.
http://frenchpirate.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-04-27T01%3A13%3A00-07%3A00&max-results= 7
 FISH GUY DSCN8589  

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by Knucklehead on Sun May 31st, 2009 at 08:53:01 PM EST
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Gee... I'm flabbergasted! What a wonderful work/world...
Impressive as well as the fantastic pictures... No more words for now, but a feeling that I like to read more of your writing, here, because I'm quite sure many will be captivated as seduced :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 02:49:51 AM EST
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margouillat,
It seems like you might have done a little browsing at my place.
Maybe I should post some of those images with my commentary on them here instead of a simple set of titled images. They might be viewed entirely differently with my reasoning behind them, not that I`m of the age of reason yet.
Please tell me what you think.
And do, please, feel welcome to go through my archives, & bring your friends. I don`t say this for visit #`s or clicks or comments, because I don`t ever check those stats nor care what they mean. But you mostly will laugh, occasionally tear-up (maybe) or get to see things in an often unconventional light.
95% of my subject matter is shot within a relatively small area from where I sit now.
I sure hope I don`t sound ill mannered in any way. It`s simply an honest invite.

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by Knucklehead on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 03:19:20 AM EST
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The Case for Working With Your Hands

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 03:33:01 AM EST
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Thank you for the link Sven.
I only read the first page right now, & only my nodding off at this moment prevents me from the next pages, though you can be sure I will read them in the AM.
It is strange that those who are now in need during hard times, find that those who were looked down upon in good times, now are seen as an indispensable force in their now reduced (imagined)importance.
I spent my whole life in trades that were seen as below some, when most of the time it was by choice, not wanting to be one of the "look down uponers".

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by Knucklehead on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 04:21:44 AM EST
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Yes, I went there and elsewhere... And found a chautauqua journey :-)

I was thinking more of a set of diaries in E.T., as , as Sven stated, there is "Quality" oozing from everywhere...

 Would Phaedrus be of age of reason either ? :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 04:49:39 AM EST
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If Phaedrus believes that honesty should be intellectual rather than be a product directed by love, then I would say he`s reached the age of reason, but I may not be so pure as to categorically state the same, as I`m quite fallible in my pursuit of truth, though I do constrain myself from dishonesty, even though I believe I might achieve a selfish result.

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by Knucklehead on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 06:04:56 AM EST
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Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance may help in trying to find one`s self, a book I read many many moons ago. The lost diaries of my mind.
It`s a trip difficult to relive, because of the confusing map I thought I so artfully created the first time around.

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by Knucklehead on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 06:10:52 AM EST
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The margouillat lizard is a variant of the Chesshire cat, often invisible but for the smile... :-)


"`Cheshire Puss,' [Alice] began, rather timidly, as she did not at all know whether it would like the name: however, it only grinned a little wider. `Come, it's pleased so far,' thought Alice, and she went on. `Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?'
`That depends a good deal on where you want to get to,' said the Cat.
`I don't much care where--' said Alice.
`Then it doesn't matter which way you go,' said the Cat.
`--so long as I get SOMEWHERE,' Alice added as an explanation.
`Oh, you're sure to do that,' said the Cat, `if you only walk long enough.'"

"`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
`How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
`You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
Alice didn't think that proved it at all; however, she went on `And how do you know that you're mad?'
`To begin with,' said the Cat, `a dog's not mad. You grant that?'
`I suppose so,' said Alice.
`Well, then,' the Cat went on, `you see, a dog growls when it's angry, and wags its tail when it's pleased. Now I growl when I'm pleased, and wag my tail when I'm angry. Therefore I'm mad.'"

Thank you for those replies :-)

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 08:43:09 AM EST
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Great pix as usual ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 06:45:08 AM EST
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Thanks Mr. Sven,
What, no pleasant &/or intriguing repartee today.
Hah

The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.
by Knucklehead on Sat May 30th, 2009 at 06:30:42 PM EST
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I am pondering a large project that I haven't yet quite got my head around. In Castenada terms, the rabbit blocking the canyon looks mighty big still. Thus I am clean out of repartee for the moment...New stocks should be arriving soon.

Something resonates in my mind with your picture (Colored Section) of the diverse fish in the grass-rimmed pond, and I can't work out why that one especially stands out for me. Perhaps it's the languidness, or the colour iterations, or the Colour of Monet, but it has been in my head since you first posted it.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 03:44:48 AM EST
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Sven,
That is a pond I built for one of my friends. His business is maintaining people`s ponds & providing fish & plants to them.
The most profitable way to do this is by propagating your own plants for sale & breeding fish for your clients.
So in goes a pond. For that I traded a bunch of work by him on some of my client`s projects, which consisted of setting up different kinds of aquariums for these respective clients. He then gets to maintain them, & sell fish & plants to them. It`s a circle that never ends. I`m glad you like it.
Right next to it is another pond where the water lilies are. They can`t be in the same pond because the fish think they are a delicacy.

I`ll be waiting till you restock your pool of repartee.
Have a nice week ahead.
Sometimes a rabbit is not a rabbit.

A YAQUI WAY OF KNOWLEDGE
A lot of the things I think I know today are, I think, a direct result of things I think I saw.

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The difference between theists and atheists is that the atheists don't set the theists on fire for refusing to agree with them.

by Knucklehead on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 at 04:36:17 AM EST
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