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ET Meet-up: Père Lachaise

by afew Tue Sep 15th, 2009 at 04:22:12 PM EST

So who finally went for a walk, last Friday, inside the Père Lachaise cemetery in Paris?

Well, LEP, and Fran, and dvx and gk, and I was there too, and... (Memory of groups walking round over the past long weekend is unreliable due to circumstances, so if I missed anyone, just add in comments...)

Fine weather, but it's a strange and complicated place, easy to get lost in even with a map. But here are some pics that may help you if ever you go there!


A lot of graves are in need of repair:

And even rather a lot of repair...

But some of them are jolly:

There's an old-and-new mix:

And there can be plastic over the rust...

Weird stuff, all the same, here and there:

After Robertson and the Phantasmagoria, they just had to batten the Adams Family down:

But let's go cult and see LEP taking the obligatory photo of Jim Morrisson's grave:

And here's Chopin's grave, more moving to me than any other I saw, because of the attention paid to it, and the emotion of those who visit:

Chopin's cat drinks at the source of musical inspiration:


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Some of these were taken in the morning when I scouted the place out for the afternoon walk.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Sep 15th, 2009 at 04:23:23 PM EST
Nice pictures!
by Fran on Tue Sep 15th, 2009 at 04:42:32 PM EST
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A few years ago, visiting the same cemetery, we saw a series of four tombs similar to the jolly one, all but one in a bad state. The one that looked brand new (but with the same build as the older ones...) had the name Delanoe on it.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Sep 15th, 2009 at 04:26:14 PM EST
I liked this one a lot.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP on Tue Sep 15th, 2009 at 04:40:13 PM EST
Good, I didn't take a photo of that one.

We concluded it was the husband looking at a mask of his wife. No names on the tomb.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Sep 15th, 2009 at 04:47:03 PM EST
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More pictures:


by Fran on Tue Sep 15th, 2009 at 04:46:15 PM EST
The French will recognize the last one.

Under the caricature, a note says:

Pierre Desproges est mort et enterré ici.

Etonnant, non?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Sep 15th, 2009 at 04:53:04 PM EST
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What a wonderful diary and photos!  I had a job for many years that included looking through cemeteries as part of my search for information, and I've been hooked on cemeteries ever since.  Père Lachaise is such a wonderful place; if I lived in Paris, I would be tempted to take my walking exercise there on a very regular basis.  

Terrific finds, Afew!  And it's such a thrill to see a few photos of graves I've noticed in person.  Everyone's photos have been a huge treat.

Karen in Austin

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher

by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 07:10:43 AM EST
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Finding Jim Morrisson's grave was an amusing process when I visited a couple of years ago.  You reach an area with a greater density of people wandering around in circles with their maps turning in all directions and then you know you are close.

I found all of the war memorials rather harrowing and emotional.

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Tue Sep 15th, 2009 at 04:49:57 PM EST
In Wales:
an area with a greater density of people wandering around in circles with their maps turning in all directions

Exactly.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 05:35:26 AM EST
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Nice pictures, afew, thanks for posting!

Memory of groups walking round over the past long weekend is unreliable due to circumstances

As I labo(u)r under the same affliction I may well be mistaken but...

If I recall correctly (see above), MillMan was there as well.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 04:29:55 AM EST
I was there too.

Who took the picture of the one with the train and signal system on it?

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 04:54:57 AM EST
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Yes you were. Sorry!

(See above disclaimer)

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 04:56:30 AM EST
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For the train etc, see Monday's Open Thread.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 05:31:19 AM EST
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Unfortunately, DoDo is extremely busy at the moment, so the game couldn't be played anyway.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 05:32:38 AM EST
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My apologies to those I missed out - who did we also meet outside when we left?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 05:33:30 AM EST
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Helen and nanne.

And Cyrille joined us later in the evening.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 05:35:13 AM EST
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Ammonium chloride works wonders for the memory! :-D
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 05:36:25 AM EST
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I still think you should've kept them.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 05:40:16 AM EST
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Kept, perhaps. Eaten... Not.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 05:45:24 AM EST
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I still have the one I tried to eat.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 06:05:38 AM EST
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Of what do you speak? Is this something at the Chinese restaurant?

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 06:37:28 AM EST
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LOL! gk has some shredded jellyfish in his pocket!
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 06:40:58 AM EST
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Danish licorice. You don't really want to know more...
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 06:43:28 AM EST
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The EU was quite right to ban it, that stuff is toxic waste.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 07:11:53 AM EST
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Ammonium chloride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
EU classification Harmful (Xn)
Irritant (Xi)


En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 07:34:22 AM EST
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Ammonium chloride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ammonium chloride is sold in blocks at hardware stores for use in cleaning the tip of a soldering iron and can also be included in solder as flux.

Other uses include a feed supplement for cattle, in hair shampoo, in textile printing, in the glue that bonds plywood, as an ingredient in nutritive media for yeast, in cleaning products, and as cough medicine. Its expectorant action is caused by irritative action on the bronchial mucosa. This causes the production of excess respiratory tract fluid which presumably is easier to cough up. It is also used in an oral acid loading test to diagnose distal renal tubular acidosis.

In several countries sal ammoniac is used to spice up liquorice-type dark candies (Finland's salmiakki, Sweden's lakrisal, the Netherlands' zoute drop and the Danish Dracula Piller are popular examples), and as a flavoring for vodkas.

Ammonium chloride is also used for contact explosives, diuretic and systemic acidifying agent. It is used in the treatment of severe metabolic alkalosis, to maintain the urine at an acid pH in the treatment of some urinary-tract disorders or in forced acid diuresis.

Ammonium salts are an irritant to the gastric mucosa and may induce nausea and vomiting.

Biological applications include using it as an energy source for microbiological growth of organisms.

The zero point of Fahrenheit is determined by placing the thermometer in a mixture of ice, water, and ammonium chloride.

Also used: to luster cotton, as a metal cleaner in soldering, as a flux in tin coating and galvanizing, in fertilizers, in safety explosions and in dying and tanning. Used in a ~5% aqueous solution to work on oil wells with clay swelling problems.



En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 07:33:51 AM EST
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Jake didn't say anything about all that before handing those things around. Wonder why?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 08:04:45 AM EST
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He did say that they were banned in the EU with the exception of Denmark and Finland (I forgot to ask for a link - the mention in your article of the Netherlands makes me wonder if this is true), so you could have asked him why. To the best of my knowledge, the EU does not ban anything because it tastes awful. This might be a good idea, but the British may get really upset...
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 08:17:53 AM EST
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Knowing my Eurosceptic neighbours, theyre going to get upset, whatever Europe does, so you may as well carry on


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 08:28:50 AM EST
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and Millman was met outside, after our mad jaunt into deepest suburban Paris

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Sep 16th, 2009 at 07:10:41 AM EST
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