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Iceland revolts against debt-slavery

by IdiotSavant Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 at 03:51:32 PM EST

Back in 2008, we saw one of the most naked and tawdry displays of big-country power in recent memory, when the UK abused anti-terror legislation to freeze the assets of the Icelandic government to force it to guarantee the deposits of UK citizens in a collapsed Icelandic bank.  Faced with this sort of pressure, the Icelandic government capitulated, and effectively sold its own people into debt-slavery, accepting a debt amounting to 40% of its GDP which it had no moral obligation for.  

Last week, the Icelandic Parliament finally passed a law cementing the deal, providing for crippling payments to the UK and the Netherlands over the next 15 years.  But there's a problem: the Icelandic people will not accept being enslaved to pay someone else's debts.  60,000 of them - 25% of the voting population - have signed a petition opposing the bill.  And as a result, Iceland's President has delayed signing it into law, and looks set to invoke his rarely-used power to put a bill to a referendum.  With 70% opposition, if it goes to a vote, the bill will lose.  If it doesn't go to a vote, then there will almost certainly be a repeat of the mass public protests which forced the collapse of the previous government in 2009.  And those protests will be repeated until a new government is elected which repudiates the unjust debt.

The UK government will be furious, and will no doubt threaten further asset freezes.  But Iceland's people are not going to be enslaved.  And if their politicians collaborate with foreign economic oppression, then they will roll them and get new ones.


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Revolt, I say!

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by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 at 03:58:38 PM EST
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25% or 75 million to protest at the Lincoln memorial. Quite a feat of the Islandic people.

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

Global Warming - distance between America and Europe is steadily increasing.

by Oui on Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 at 04:05:42 PM EST
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I'm never convinced by stage management ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 at 04:11:32 PM EST
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As an Icelandic former IMF economist on the Gang8 Yahoo list puts it....


Whether or not the President signs the Icesave legislation is not important for Iceland's medium-term economic prospects.

The question is whether national insolvency is better acknowledged now or a few years down the road.



"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 at 05:05:03 PM EST
That assumes the debt is valid.  Icelanders clearly don't see it that way.
by IdiotSavant on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 05:13:05 AM EST
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Of course Iceland is in its right to renege on the debt that its previous governments accepted in the course of 2008-9. The question is what consequences that Sovereign default will have for Iceland. At a minimum it will make it more expensive for Icelanders to make financial transactions with foreigners.

As Chris never tires to point out, debt which cannot be paid will not be paid. But how it will not be paid is a political issue. We have seen the kind of political pressure the UK was willing to bring to bear on Iceland.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 05:39:37 AM EST
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were keen to lend to Russia 2 years after having called Russian debt "radioactive" (after a quite targeted default) and said never again...

Markets have little memory, it would seem.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 07:20:30 AM EST
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Is there such a thing as selective default?

I mean, what if Iceland doesn't want to overly spook its international lenders, but have nothing against screwing people who were to stupid to believe that a tiny country would extend bank guarantees to foreigners even if that would mean incurring a sudden debt equal to 40 % of the GDP?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:06:27 PM EST
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The PR problem with that is that the people who'd be the "targeted" part of the "targeted default" will be the people who invite Villagers to cocktail parties.

So for the purpose of the public narrative (in which the only people who matter are the Villagers), it would not matter. In fact, it could even make it worse, because the Villagers would pitch a hissy fit about "discrimination" and "politicians picking winners and losers" and the "deliberate targeting of business by an ideological socialist government."

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:12:09 PM EST
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There is such a thing as a selective guarantee of liabilities.

If I understand you correctly you've got it exactly backwards, by the way, the right thing to have done would have been for the Icelandic government to guarantee deposits (including by foreigners where appropriate) but not the other debt of Kaupthing, Landsbanki etc.

Of course, this report (PDF) by Willem Buiter and Anne Sibert continues to be required reading about the whole mess...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:21:09 PM EST
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The introduction to the Buiter/Sibert paper, written in 2008, contains the following
If the solvency gap of the banking system exceeds the unused fiscal capacity of the authorities, the only choice
that remains is that between banking sector insolvency and sovereign insolvency.  The Icelandic government has rightly decided that its tax payers and the beneficiaries of its public spending programmes (who will be hit hard in any case) deserve priority over the external and domestic creditors of the banks (except for the insured depositors).
This was already after the UK's bullying so what exactly happened in 2009 for the feeling to be that the new Left-wing government that gained power on the back of popular protests at the turn of 2009 has in fact sold out to the foreign creditors?


En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 02:23:25 PM EST
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ah, yes, Notorious Big-E and the "odious debt doctrine".

Here's hoping that Ecuador's debt repudiation is the first of many more to come, and that the Third World declares its own jubilee in 2009 without waiting for permission from Bono.

Read more...

Possibly related posts:

brettonwoodsproject.org: "The World Bank released a paper on 'odious debt' in September, following months of silence, confusion and denial about who was responsible for it and when it would become available. It adds to a growing number of initiatives examining the concept. 'Odious debt' is usually defined as that knowingly given to a despotic power to repress and not benefit its people. The broader term of 'illegitimate debt' describes all debts that have arisen from irresponsible, self-interested, reckless or unfair lending."

Felix "It's a liquidity not solvency crisis" Salmon: "'The world has changed,' said Humes -- we're now living in a world where not only Ecuador can default, but Iceland can default as well. And that's a world where defaults by small emerging-market countries simply don't have the systemic consequences that everybody thought they might have. I even heard Humes say something I never thought I'd hear a died-in-the-wool buy-sider like him say: 'Maybe,' he said, the solution to 'go back to Anne Krueger's model.'"

law.duke.edu: "[Patricia Adams] rejects the Paris Club process as a "backroom political deal in which the creditors are the judges and Iraqis have to plead for mercy," arguing that negotiations for debt relief within the Paris Club context serve to legitimize an illegitimate debt, regardless of the end result.8 Furthermore, Ms. Adams argues that the Paris Club debt renegotiations serve only to bail-out creditors -- bilateral creditors directly and commercial creditors indirectly -- that should have known better than to lend to an odious regime. She pointedly notes that Paris Club creditors are inherently conflicted -- they are the "judge, jury, and executioner"9 as they directly benefit from a less substantial debt reduction plan -- and cannot be expected to act equitably in restructuring negotiations."

1999, partay like it's: "Ecuador is the first Latin American country to default on "Brady bonds," named after the US Treasury Secretary Nicholas Brady, in the Bush administration, who devised them as a stopgap solution to the debt crisis of the 1980s. Much of the unrepayable debts of Latin American countries were transformed into dollar-denominated bonds for which the governments involved deposited collateral in the New York Federal Reserve Bank, in order to prevent an outright debt repudiation which would have shaken the world banking system to its roots."


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 04:54:18 PM EST
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come to CA.  We could use your good sense and spunk.

BRAVO!!

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 at 05:20:19 PM EST
Iceland could become the 51st state of the good ol' USA. That would solve ALL of her problems.  :-)

We even have a new flag design done:

by asdf on Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 at 06:07:37 PM EST
I thought Iceland was applying for EU membership already, likely joining the Euro at the time of accession...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 at 06:20:47 PM EST
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Sounds like they are not very happy with Europe in general right now, though.

Iceland would see the biggest tourist invasion ever if they were to become the 51st state. It's a pretty big deal amongst the retiree community here to have visited all 50 states... Just paint up the little houses and put in a McDonald's and you're home free!

Plus, as potentially the swing state in the next election, and a total wild card for the pollsters, you'd see more politicians than New Hampshire.

Another plus, maybe I'd be able to buy decent kippers instead of the unidentifiable crud currently sold here as such...

by asdf on Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 at 06:46:07 PM EST
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As late as December 8 it was reported that
Reykjavik had hoped to get approval from EU leaders at a summit on Thursday to formally launch accession talks with the 27-nation bloc, but a delay in appointing a new European Commission -- the executive that steers EU enlargement policy -- has stalled the process, the diplomats said.
But, of course, this is a month out of date...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jan 3rd, 2010 at 06:55:52 PM EST
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Icesave was a branch of an Icelandic bank. Not a subsidiary. In legal terms, it did not matter whether the branch was located in Sauðárkrókur or in London - depositors in branches have the legal right to be treated equally, irrespective of nationality. Icelandic regulators should have insisted - nay, forced, Landsbanki to move Icesave into a British subsidiary - had they done that, this problem would not exist.
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The deposits of all Icelanders were covered in full after the bank collapse, and so the depositors in other branches - overseas or not - should have received the same treatment. And even if Iceland does assume the Icesave debt, those depositors will not be receiving the same treatment, since the Icesave deposits of UK citizens are being covered only up to the 20,000 euro limit.
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And, as has been pointed out, it is only a share of our other national debts, yet is being made out to be the bane of this nation by the opposition parties, especially the Independence Party, which drove this country into this awful mess, and that even signed a sovereign guarantee for the Icesave debt in November 2008.

http://icelandweatherreport.com/2010/01/my-personal-stand-on-icesave.html

You guys are cheering the theft of savings by greedy bankers from ordinary savers.

by Trond Ove on Mon Jan 4th, 2010 at 05:33:42 AM EST
If we were talking about a deposit guarantee, nobody would be complaining (as long as the depositors who qualified for it were sufficiently carefully circumscribed). We're not talking about that. We're talking about a full-on bailout.

Now, if the British government hand given a shit about the British depositors, they would have a) forced the bank to operate under British law, under a British corporate charter and subject to British deposit insurance schemes or, failing that, b) demanded a deposit guarantee and told the rest of the IceSave creditors to take a long walk on a short pier.

But by lumping deposits in together with interbank loans, bonds, promised but as yet unpaid bonuses and so on and so forth and etcetera, the British government made sure that the debt would not be repaid.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 02:45:18 AM EST
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This is the same nonsense that Ireland did when it guaranteed all the liabilities of all its banks, not just deposits but all debt. Under the guise of protecting ordinary savers from greedy bankers [to use Trond Ove's terminology], greedy bankers were protected at the taxpayer's expense.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 05:41:42 AM EST
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is between creditors (especially bondholders) and debtors in the context of record levels of debt - big chunks of it are unlikely to be repaid.

All these blanket guarantees amount to a total victory of creditors over debtors. The problem has been passed on to the public balance sheet, and taxpayers, in an attempt to make debtors cough up their social income in addition to their current income and assets before they go bankrupt.

It's scorched earth policy.

The reality is that lenders knew (or should have known) that they were making loans that stood no chance of being paid back, and they should now be taking a hit. And they will. They've just decided to take everybody else with them.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 07:26:38 AM EST
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They've just decided to take everybody else with them.

Exactly! And they are succeeding big time. So complete is the cognitive capture that their success is being cheered by substantial portions of those who will shortly be taken down with them, needlessly. And this is general, not just in Iceland but in the USA an UK also, at a minimum.


"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 08:38:47 PM EST
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NYT: Iceland President to Speak on Tuesday; Icesave Waits
celand's president, who has delayed signing a highly controversial bill to repay more than $5 billion lost by British and Dutch savers with Icelandic banks, said he would hold a news conference on Tuesday.

After weeks of heated debate, Iceland's parliament narrowly passed an amended version of the Icesave bill last Wednesday, but nearly one quarter of the country's voters have signed a petition asking President Olafur Ragnar Grimmson to veto it.

Grimmson said then that he needed time before signing it into law, and on Monday he announced on his website that he would hold a news conference at 1100 GMT (11:00 a.m. British time) on Tuesday. He did not give details.

That's about now, isn't it?  Or is my daylight savings (hi, yes, I'm in the Southern hemisphere, and the weather down here is lovely, thanks) screwing things up?

by IdiotSavant on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 05:14:32 AM EST
40 minutes from now...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 05:24:27 AM EST
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And its going to a vote.  Which means it will fail.  Bye-bye, Icelandic government.
by IdiotSavant on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 06:14:37 AM EST
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Who will the 25% who signed the petition vote for?

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 06:22:25 AM EST
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Point. The current government tried to sell them out; the previous government got them into the mess in the first place.

I sense the opening of a pretty big niche in Iceland's political landscape...

by IdiotSavant on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 06:53:51 AM EST
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Considering the country being so small, it shouldn't be impossible to take a crash course in Icelandic, rebase the entire ET braintrust to Reykjavik, and get voted into power. Dibs for minister of energy. ;)

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:09:43 PM EST
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Every Icelander I ever met spoke good English. I've not met all 317,000 of them, but a reasonable sampling away from the capital.

I suggest that the ET band and the government of the new ETopia be one and the same, with the ministries  handed out on the basis of musical instruments. The Energy Ministry goes to the drummer - so you'll have to fight it out with InWales (and maybe even Crazy Horse). I've got the ukulele, which is a small and insignificant ministry handling window cleaning.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:19:49 PM EST
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The former minister at work.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:30:06 PM EST
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They don't write double entendres like that any more. Law a mercy. ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 02:40:51 PM EST
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You can even do it without becoming Starvidsson. The law requiring new citizens to adopt Icelandic names was dropped recently.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:20:00 PM EST
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Reuters: Icelandic president says won't sign Icesave bill
Iceland's president said on Tuesday he would not sign into law a bill to repay more than $5 billion lost by savers in Britain and the Netherlands when the island's banks collapsed, creating fresh political turmoil for the crisis-hit country. President Olafur Grimsson's rejection of the bill is seen putting aid from international lenders, as well as aspirations to join the European Union, in serious jeopardy. Financial aid is vital for Iceland in the wake of its economic meltdown,

Meanwhile, the Dutch are demanding an explanation.  It's simple: Iceland is a democracy, its government subject ultimately to its people.  And the people will not let their government sell them out.  The UK and Netherlands can whine and pout all they like, but the brute fact is that the Icelandic government simply can not deliver what they are asking.  The interesting question is how long it will take the UKand Netherlands to understand this...

by IdiotSavant on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 07:03:34 AM EST
And while we're at it, this headline pisses me off:

Iceland Defies U.K. and Netherlands On Debt Pact

"Defies" implies that those being resisted have some form of legitimate authority over the resister.  It therefore casts such resistance as inherently illegitimate.  But states don't have authority over other states, they merely have power.  Saying Iceland is "defying" the UK (or Iran is "defying" the US, which is another favourite) is like saying that someone is "defying" a mugger accosting them in the street - nonsensical.

by IdiotSavant on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 07:09:44 AM EST
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I think Iceland's EU accession just hit an iceberg...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 07:19:34 AM EST
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Yup.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 07:32:08 AM EST
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Nobody really believes that a single country can hold up accession forever, do they?

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:06:46 PM EST
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I have nothing against the UK blocking Icelandic membership forever. If the Brits start paying their full membership fee... ;)

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:16:18 PM EST
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I would. On the same level that I would also have a problem with free-ranging pigs if said pigs had wings, could fly and used that capability to drop pig dung on our cities...

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:19:19 PM EST
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The Netherlands is also a potential blocker.

Both the UK and the Netherlands have blocked Croatia over cooperation with the Hague Court. And yes, a single country could hold up accession indefinitely. Just look at Slovenia.

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:24:39 PM EST
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Only if it has enough political clout.

Otherwise, its arms will get twisted around. One way or another.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:33:12 PM EST
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Do you think Iceland has many friends within the EU club ready to support their membership and pressure UK+NL about this ?
by JeroenMostert on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 02:53:53 PM EST
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Do you think the UK has many friends in the EU after breaking capitalism, and trying to sabotage Continental energy security?

The Netherlands might be a tougher nut to crack.

Though, of course, if the Icelandic government is smart they give Mr. Medvedev a call along the lines of "say, what with our whole financial mess, we have this nice, big fishing dock a few kilometers outside Reykjavik that will unfortunately have to shut down. Do you think the Russian Navy could make productive use of it..."

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 03:11:02 PM EST
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In early November [2008], the President attended a traditional informal lunch with all ambassadors to Iceland, held by the senior Danish ambassador. According to a confidential memo from the Norwegian embassy, quoted in the Norwegian newspaper Klassekampen, the President said: "The North Atlantic is important to Scandinavia, the US and Britain. This is a fact these countries now seem to ignore. Then, Iceland should rather get some new friends". However, he praised Norway and the Faroes for their swift decisions to grant major loans to Iceland. He also said Iceland should rather invite Russia to use the Keflavík Air Base. According to the memo, the offer was turned down by an "amazed and smiling" Russian ambassador who said Russia did not have any need for this.


Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 03:39:13 PM EST
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Iceland is a democracy, its government subject ultimately to its people.  And the people will not let their government sell them out.

How do I import some of this ... "democracy" is it ... to the US?  Sounds like great stuff if it means "their government will not sell them out" which is all we have in the US at ALL levels of government.

They tried to assimilate me. They failed.

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 09:28:47 AM EST
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Iceland should agree to take the toxic waste that Netherlands is currently dumping in Africa.
by rootless2 on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 05:03:21 AM EST
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Why not? They can always dump it in international waters.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 05:49:00 PM EST
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Excellent point. The invisible hand wins again!
by rootless2 on Wed Jan 6th, 2010 at 07:14:32 PM EST
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From one of the articles linked in the diary comes the following delicious paragraph:
A report by Sweden's Riksbank said EU rules covering Icesave were incoherent and that it was unclear whether Icelandic citizens bear the full responsiblity. It said Britain's authorities had acted incompetently and should share some of the compensation costs.


En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 08:54:14 AM EST
I don't have anything at all against Sweden supplying Iceland with emergency loans if international lenders turn agsinst them. Indeed, we could use our useless and bloated foreign aid budget. That's an annual 3 billion euros.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:13:23 PM EST
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Hmmm, comparable to the 5 billion dollars Iceland is supposed to be getting from the IMF...

En un viejo país ineficiente, algo así como España entre dos guerras civiles, poseer una casa y poca hacienda y memoria ninguna. -- Gil de Biedma
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 12:58:27 PM EST
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Yep. Careful so you don't give people ideas... ;)

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 01:07:52 PM EST
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As the money would be loaned, not spent, the cost would just be whatever the swedish government spends on interest for borrowing 5 billion euros. With interest rates being what they are the cost would be about 120 million euros over 5 years (not per year, total cost). No need to cut the aid budget.

What it all boils down to is Iceland having about 1% of the population of the Nordic countries, which means the others can easily save them. Depending on political will of course.

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Jan 5th, 2010 at 03:44:05 PM EST
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