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Stories of wonder for Christmas

by stevesim Fri Dec 24th, 2010 at 07:25:31 AM EST

Over the last few months, I have read about some incredible ideas, full of wonder, that I would like to share with you.   I hope they make you wonder as much as they did me.

1.  The mysterious Dorset People

Contrary to most people's beliefs, the Inuit haven't occupied the Far North for many millenia.  They arrived at around 900 C.E. probably from Siberia and moving eastwards towards North America and finally Greenland.

However, they met and replaced as inhabitants of this desolate region a group of people that are mysterious to us, and legend to the Innuit:  the Dorset people.  Named after artifacts found in Cape Dorset, Nunavut, they are assumed to have been very tall, very peace loving and to be have become extinct around 1500 CE.  They lived in stone buildings and may have taught the Innuit how to live in the Arctic.  

They had no boats, no sled dogs and no bows and arrows, yet managed to survive in the most extreme conditions on Earth.  They survived by fishing marine mammals and as the ice receded in the Medieval Warm Period, they moved to the High Arctic and later became extinct.

You can read more here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorset_people

2.  How did the Polynesians manage to navigate the oceans without maps or compasses?  

They used a system called "wave train analysis" where one uses understanding of various types of objects that can affect wave movement in water.  

The Polynesians did not have lodestones with which to make compasses, and their navigation system does not emphasize the stars, but the sea itself. The different wave patterns are studied and observed, as many, improbably, as fourteen simultaneously. The sophistication of the navigation is best appreciated in the bathtub. Set up a small wave train at one end of the tub by wiggling your finger. Now wiggle your finger at another end of the tub. Observe the interaction between the two sets of waves. Add a third system with another finger and try to discern each of the three wave patterns. This is already becoming formidably complex. Add a fourth, and a fifth. Keep going.

Navigating by wave train alone, the waves were best felt with the testicles; the navigator on each canoe had a special cabin he hunkered in. The idea, however, of making sense out of an interference pattern involving more than three or four wave systems is mind-boggling. The mathematical complexity of a fourteen-source interference pattern would appear more than can be held by any human brain. Or scrotum. And yet the historical record is clear about the existence of trading routes between Hiva Oa and Hawaii.

http://maisonneuve.org/pressroom/article/2010/nov/15/the-diseases-affluence/

Yes, our world is a wonderfully complex and mysterious place which we have yet to fully understand and appreciate.

I hope you enjoyed this diary and it has piqued your interest in learning about these fascinating (to me, at least) topics.


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I was rolling two walnuts around in my hand, feeling for the best position to crack them against each other: having misplaced the nutcrackers for the moment. You know what it's like when you have to find something that you only encounter once a year.

So I know how you feel.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Dec 24th, 2010 at 08:15:00 AM EST
It's not just the nutcracker that's been lost. We used to talk with animals and plants, who provided much specific wisdom about how to live here. We could read clouds.

Though i'm willing to bet the testicle wave oscillation navigation method wasn't transferable to the Arctic.

Regarding the Dorsets, ndns know lots of old stuff they can't prove.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Fri Dec 24th, 2010 at 08:30:53 AM EST
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there is a tribe in the Colombian jungle that communicates telepathically with one another.

they have said that for about 20 years now, they have sensed a big change in "Mother Earth"

I read recently about a tribe of people from that area who sent emissaries to the modern world to warn them, but I am not sure if they are the same tribe.

I had a lot of info on the first tribe, including the title of a book about them on "Amazon". but it's on a crashed hard drive.

the world is a weird and wonderful place, isn't it?  and Christmastime highlights some of that beauty.  

by stevesim on Fri Dec 24th, 2010 at 08:45:50 AM EST
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the info about that tribe was easier to find this time around.

They are called the Kogi and they emit small sounds that evoke emotions in the other person.

Drunvalo details how he was taught to communicate using image-producing heart sounds. The instruction came from a Kogi woman who projected her consciousness into a participant at one of Drunvalo's workshops. Communicating through this third party-the workshop participant, the Kogi woman grasps Drunvalo's hand,looks deeply into his eyes and emits "a soft and longing sound."
Drunvalo relates, "The sound went straight to my heart and vibrated inside my very center, and I could 'see' what she was saying. She made another 'sound,' and my body responded with another similar 'sound' that had never come from me before. Instantly, we were speaking in a new and profound manner thatwas so beautiful, so complete. It made all the languages of the world seem inadequate and obsolete. For two hours we communicated in images of full color and depth with all the sensory completeness of real life. I learned about life, and I learned about this woman."

Through this new type of communication, Drunvalo "saw and felt" the Kogi woman's village in the Amazon jungle and "met" her husband, family and other native peoples from her village. He also learned why the Kogi came to teach him this new form of communication. The Kogi have a gift for humanity. The Kogi are contacting humanity at this time in order to teach this new powerful way of direct communication through image-producing heart sounds. "The Kogi want me to teach this new way of "talking" to the civilized world," Drunvalo shares. "The teaching of this telepathic form of communication is older than language. In the time before language, all of humanity 'spoke' in this way from the heart, not only to each other, but to all of the animals and the rest of life."

http://www.articlesfactory.com/articles/psychology/amazon-tribe-communicates-through-heart-sounds.ht ml

You can buy a sample of this at Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/Listen-to-the-Kogi-Speak/dp/B0015FW6BA/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1293198691&a mp;sr=8-6

by stevesim on Fri Dec 24th, 2010 at 09:02:18 AM EST
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I was deep in the Matto Grosso at Xmas '68. I was trying to explain to the young Tzukhamai (via Portuguese, via some local pidgin) that there were men circling round that thing up there which we call the moon. It was the funniest thing they'd ever heard. And when young Tzukhamai warrior/hunters laugh, it is quite an event. It's a bit similar to that motivational workshop thing where everybody lies with their head on someone else's stomach. It only takes one to start laughing and the whole thing explodes into recursive feedback.

Bedjai, my Tzukhamai valet, would remind me of this with a twirl of his hands to imitate my symbolic description of orbiting and a scoffing laugh. That twirl, coincidentally, is similar to the one we use to indicate 'having a screw loose' in another.

The Tzukhamai have a strange value system. Everyone and thing within the tribe is  passionately defended. Everything outside the concept of Tzukhamai is rated equally bad - from butterfly to jaguar. Value is either 0 or 1.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Dec 24th, 2010 at 09:42:44 AM EST
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that sounds like a once-in-a-lifetime trip.

I hope you will share that with us here.

I did not mean to make this diary about the occult, but more about the wonders of science and nature, and how much is being learned every day about humanity, our history, and our planet.

However, I have to make a last observation about the Kogi, who seem to be not so dissimilar to us:

With the aid of the cocoa plant, the Kogi men and Mamas partake in shamanistic practices.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2704547/kogi_indians_lost_culture_and_their_pg3.html?cat=37

by stevesim on Fri Dec 24th, 2010 at 10:23:30 AM EST
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It was indeed formative in my future thinking. I've revealed some stuff from that trip here in the past, but not recently.

As I've said many times here, perceptions of science, within a given population, are often incompatible with science itself. This gap can only be bridged by the development of a pidgin language between them.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Dec 24th, 2010 at 11:31:43 AM EST
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perceptions of science, within a given population, are often incompatible with science itself

Reading The Age of American Unreason by Susan Jacoby and ran across this stunner:

"More than two thirds of Americans, according to surveys conducted for the National Science Foundation over the past two decades, are unable to identify DNA as the key to heredity.  Nine out of ten Americans do not understand radiation and what it can do to the body.  One in five adults is convinced that the sun revolves around the earth."  (Pg. xvii)

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Mon Dec 27th, 2010 at 02:42:21 PM EST
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new stories of early humans.  the world is truly a fascinating place:

JERUSALEM (AP) - Israeli archaeologists say they may have found the earliest evidence yet for the existence of modern man.
A Tel Aviv University team excavating a cave in central Israel said Monday they found teeth about 400,000 years old. The earliest Homo sapiens remains found until now are half that old.

Archaeologist Avi Gopher said Monday further research is needed to solidify the claim. If it does, he says, "this changes the whole picture of evolution."

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9KCD15O0&show_article=1

by stevesim on Mon Dec 27th, 2010 at 01:54:05 PM EST
IF true it would push the emergence of homo sap. sap. back 300,000 years.  The guess estimate now is emergence occurred 40,000 - 100,000 B.P.  Neanderthals are thought to have emerged 600,000 to 350,000 B.P. making it more likely, in the light of current evidence, the teeth are from that species.

Morphological differences of Neanderthal and modern human dentition is a specialized field, but known within the paleo-anthropology community.  I doubt the knowledge is known to Israeli archaeologists.  

This should be put in the "interesting, but dubious" file until proper examination has been conducted.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Mon Dec 27th, 2010 at 02:18:18 PM EST
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From Wiki:
Anatomically modern humans appear from about 200,000 years ago and after 70,000 years ago (see Toba catastrophe theory) gradually marginalize the "archaic" varieties. Non-modern varieties of Homo are certain to have survived until after 30,000 years ago, and perhaps until as recent as 10,000 years ago. Which of these, if any, are included under the term "archaic Homo sapiens" is a matter of definition and varies among authors.


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by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Dec 27th, 2010 at 09:38:43 PM EST
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Nah.  Don't buy the 200,000 BP date.

From my (non-professional) POV the definitive proof of the emergence of us -- totally modern Millie humans -- is the development of the neolithic culture.  That's the first hard evidence for a major leap in cognitive ability.  

Because I'm a wuss, I'm willing to stretch it back to 100,000 BP.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Mon Dec 27th, 2010 at 09:54:19 PM EST
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What's so cognitively innovating about evidence of sedentarisation compared to, say, the various wall paintings and sculpture remaining from 20,000 years earlier ?

Also, since that leap appeared simultaneously all around the world, it must not be that big...

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by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Tue Dec 28th, 2010 at 08:31:14 AM EST
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Language.  

Complex verbal communication is a sina qua non for agriculture.  Historically, every human grouping has exhibited highly developed language skills despite their technological and cultural "level."  The development of agriculture gives certainty to the existence of modern humans.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Fri Dec 31st, 2010 at 02:40:13 PM EST
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Cave paintings show pretty much the same thing... Even those that never bothered with agriculture, as in Australia.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Jan 5th, 2011 at 02:40:05 PM EST
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Neolithic would be about 12,000 BP, so you must mean Upper Paleolithic. But that upper paleolithic culture is really European-Mediterranean upper paleolithic culture, isn't it? This is too narrow: that region is just one Homo sapiens expanded into from Africa. Also consider than on many locations, good stones are just not available, and people have to use bones, wood or other less easily preserved materials. And, above all, it's culture, not genes.

However, I have another problem with this pushing back and forth of limits: evolution was not necessarily as intermittent in speed as to warrant the drawing of a clear border between Homo sapiens and Homo erectus.

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One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Dec 31st, 2010 at 01:50:00 PM EST
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I have the presupposition the "hardware" (neurological capability) was around long before the "software" (Neolithic culture) developed.  

Humans seem to like being nomads.  It's very hard to get a group to settle down and "do" the sedentary thing.  As recently illustrated in Saudi Arabia when the government tried to 'nail down' their Bedouin population.  I suspect - without any proof at all! - there was a period of "nomadic agriculture" where the band would plant and then wander around until harvest time, when they would come back and harvest.

Agriculture, cropping, is all very well but you need something to put the stuff in to store it safe from pests if you depend on it to eat.  You need pottery.  To finally sit down you also need a steady supply of animal based proteins, meaning animal domestication. Humans are rather good at wiping-out the local prey.  See mastodons.  Or, rather, you won't see mastodons because our ancestors exterminated them.   :-)

Domesticating animals seems to have been a fad, some time back.  The Egyptians tried to domesticate the hyena!  (That must have been fun.)

Re: Evolution

In the light of current understanding there is Micro-Evolution, where small genetic mutations slowly morph species into new species, and Macro-Evolution when species change really quickly.  It's this latter that seems to be the mainspring for "punctuated equilibrium" of Gould, et. al.

I don't think anyone, with any sense, would disagree various hominid species over-lapped in time.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Fri Dec 31st, 2010 at 03:06:31 PM EST
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ATinNM:
I suspect - without any proof at all! - there was a period of "nomadic agriculture" where the band would plant and then wander around until harvest time, when they would come back and harvest.

Archeologist friend of mine claims that middens are often older then remains form permanent settlement, indicating nomads that moved between different sites in a rotating manner. A good start for improving local plants (and harvesting next time you come around).

ATinNM:

Domesticating animals seems to have been a fad, some time back.

There was some legendary plans in Sweden during the time of military might to domesticate moose and use as cavalry. That would have put some shock and awe into the heart and minds of the enemy.

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by A swedish kind of death on Sat Jan 1st, 2011 at 07:37:55 AM EST
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That's been suggested as the key insight necessary for agriculture:

seeds + tossing directly or indirectly (think No. 2's) = more seeds next year.

Moose cavalry?

There's no invention, however useful, that humans don't drive to its logical perversion.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Jan 1st, 2011 at 03:09:01 PM EST
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I'm not sure where in the history of cultures you would place  the uncontacted tribes of the Matto Grosso such as the Kreen-Akrore (as of 1968 when I was filming a Villas Boas contacting expedition in the Xingu National Park).

They were nomadic, moving from banana plantation to plantation over 10s of square miles.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 1st, 2011 at 08:09:56 AM EST
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Above the !Kung and below the Bantu, I guess.

I'm not really into 1800-era "level classification."  That always - surprise!  surprise! - ended-up with the classifiers ethnic group/nationality as the Apex of All Mankind and other people's level in the hierarchy dependent on how closely they resembled the Apex of All Mankind.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sat Jan 1st, 2011 at 03:13:31 PM EST
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Morphological differences of Neanderthal and modern human dentition is a specialized field, but known within the paleo-anthropology community.  I doubt the knowledge is known to Israeli archaeologists.

Why? There is experience with comparative hominid archeology there. IIRC it was sites in Israel where the most conclusive evidence of a contemporary-ness of Homo sapiens and neanderthal settlement was evidenced.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Dec 31st, 2010 at 01:56:03 PM EST
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because the taxonomy and morphology of human dentition is a sub-discipline within paleo-anthropology, not archeology.  With the recent discoveries of Neanderthal genetic inheritance within modern humans it would be surprising if no modern human ever had Neanderthal or Neanderthal-like teeth.

The min/max understanding of Neanderthal is that they were a sub-species which a part was absorbed back into the main homo sap. line.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Fri Dec 31st, 2010 at 02:25:22 PM EST
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and then there was the spotting of the elusive Saharan cheetah, maybe the rarest animal in the world:

Saharan cheetah is considered to be a very elusive, desert living large cat - and a Saharan cheetah recently came into the spotlight in Niger, Africa, when a hidden camera captured photos of the rare cat. Saharan cheetahs, with their distinctive pale coat and emaciated appearance - are tough to mistake.

"I think we were more happy than surprised when the images turned up, because we knew cheetahs were in the general area because we had seen their tracks on several occasions," said John Newby, CEO of the Sahara Conservation Fund (SCF), who is part of the team looking for the rare cat. "However, the area is so vast that picking up an animal as rare as this always entails a lot of luck and good judgment on where to place the cameras."

The Saharan cheetah is so rare that scientists aren't sure how the cat is genetically related to other cheetahs, or just how many even exist. From the few observations they've made from camera-trap snapshots between July and August, and of animal tracks, they estimate that fewer than 10 individuals resides in the vast desert of Termit and Tin Toumma in Niger

Read more: http://www.thirdage.com/news/saharan-cheetah-photos-elusive-desert-cat-photographed-endangered-sahar an-cheetah_12-27-2010#ixzz19L90T5P0

(there's also a photo at the link)

by stevesim on Mon Dec 27th, 2010 at 01:59:22 PM EST
I forgot the p/n.

"It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Mon Dec 27th, 2010 at 09:40:54 PM EST
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The mathematical complexity of a fourteen-source interference pattern would appear more than can be held by any human brain.

sigh

No, not really.

The human brain very quickly makes sense out of:

"And I have promises to keep
and miles to go before I sleep"

whereas it would take a computer using "mathematics" (<insert> rant about people who know bugger-all about mathematics going "Gee-WHIZ" about mathematics </insert>) over 6,000 years to do it.

A neuron, all by its lonesome, is pretty damn dumb.  Get 20 billion, or so, cranking on a problem and they can whip out an correct answer fairly quickly.  

As such things go.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Mon Dec 27th, 2010 at 02:31:20 PM EST
a fourteen-source interference pattern WOULD appear more than can be held by any human brain.

not  APPEARS

by stevesim on Mon Dec 27th, 2010 at 02:39:22 PM EST
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You can draw out an incredibly complex looking formula that involves  multiple differential equations that  looks to the casual observer to be completely unsolvable, but is the calculation that you are in effect solving when you ask Can I cross the road safely before the cars approaching from either direction gets close to me.

The fact that it at its root is a  14  dimensional calculation may not be the way that its experienced by someone who is using.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jan 2nd, 2011 at 02:28:34 PM EST
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European Tribune - Comments - Stories of wonder for Christmas

Contrary to most people's beliefs, the Inuit haven't occupied the Far North for many millenia.  They arrived at around 900 C.E. probably from Siberia and moving eastwards towards North America and finally Greenland.

However, they met and replaced as inhabitants of this desolate region a group of people that are mysterious to us, and legend to the Innuit:  the Dorset people.

Checking the wikipedia article I find a sliding between peoples and cultures. That a culture replaced another used in the 19th century romantic tradition be interpreted as peoples replacing each other (with little or no interbreeding). This interpretation reflects the ongoing genocides which could then be understood as a natural thing.

That the tools changed and thus the culture can be check with archeology, for studies of genealogy DNA analysis is needed, and there appears to be little here. So the Inuit may have chased of the Dorset or the Dorset may have imported the culture of the Inuit or there may be a mix of these. From what I can tell, we do not know.

The fact that cultures change without white folks being involved is imho important in itself to counter the image of the static barbarians.

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by A swedish kind of death on Tue Dec 28th, 2010 at 03:50:58 PM EST


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