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Juan Cole avenges former IDF Corporal Jeffrey Goldberg

by shergald Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 04:58:59 PM EST

Here on European Tribune, this diary would be rated LQD (lazy quote diary), because there is nothing to add to a very quotable piece. It speaks for itself, and on the way provides a lot of insight into American journalism as practiced in the US by Israeli right wingers. It was Philip Weiss who provided the link, saying, "people are talking about this inspired attack by Juan Cole on the "burly former Israeli military prison guard at the notorious Ketziot detention camp" -- former IDF Corporal Jeffrey Goldberg."

Here is Juan Cole responding to his Likudnik critics, including Goldberg, often humorously.


Cpl. Jeffrey Goldberg, Guarding the Prison of the Nationalist Mind

As a Middle East expert who lived in the Muslim world for nearly 10 years, travels widely there, speaks the languages, writes history from archives and manuscripts, and follows current affairs, I found that none of that counted for much when I entered the public arena in the United States. It isn't that I am thin-skinned or can't dish it out as good as I get it. Rather, it is like being a professional baseball player ready for the World Series, who gets in the van and instead of being delivered to Yankee Stadium is blindfolded and taken to a secret fight club where people are betting on whether he can go 12 rounds with a giant James Bond villain. And he says, "But I'm not a boxer, I bat .400." And they sneer, "You will pay for insulting our great aunt."

This is an arena where vehement partisans are honored as "journalists," where ability to speak languages or engage in cultural interaction counts for nothing, and where rich and powerful patrons make reputations rather than any real knowledge. NYT columnist David Brooks slammed me for not having recognized Ariel Sharon's potential as a peace-maker with the Palestinians and for not seeing how positive the Iraq War was for resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian crisis. (???) I was routinely denounced by David Horowitz, who used to be an insufferable leftist in the 60s when he edited Ramparts and now is an insufferable rightwinger, but who knows nothing at all about the Middle East (and what he thinks he knows is wrong). Marty Peretz, who married into the Singer Sewing Machine fortune and then used his wife's money to buy and ruin The New Republic, turning it into pro-Contra, pro-war rag, was annoyed to see me on television because of his vast fund of knowledge about Arabic hollow verbs. Michael Oren, a bad, partisan historian and Israeli army reservist (who fought in the Gaza War); who revived the Gobineau Orientalist tradition in his book on the US and the Middle East; and who is now the Israeli ambassador to Washington-- weighed in against my receiving an appointment to the Yale History Department. Princeton-trained Martin Kramer until recently of Tel Aviv University, who recently advocated using the Gaza blockade to force small families on the half-starving Palestinians, made a cottage industry of snarky and mostly false remarks about Informed Comment; and has a relationship with the so-called "Middle East Forum", which runs the McCarthyite 'campus watch' and which was part of a scheme to have me cyber-stalked and massively spammed.

More recently I have provoked the ire of a burly former Israeli military prison guard at the notorious Ketziot detention camp during the first Intifada, who is among our foremost journalists of the Middle East and given a prominent perch at The Atlantic magazine-- Jeffrey Goldberg.

Horowitz and the others routinely just make up entire passages and attribute them falsely to their victims. You always think you can defend your position in an honest debate. You aren't prepared the first time someone says, "How do you justify your spirited defense of Pol Pot?" Horowitz had some Kahaneist string together a series of statements I never wrote and published them in a book on the supposed 101 most dangerous professors (as if anyone is more dangerous to our Republic than a lying rightwing demagogue). What I really mind is that he never sent me so much as the T-shirt. Also, students still don't seem sufficiently impressed by the title to get their papers in on time. John Fund of the Wall Street Journal, who had supported the fundamentalist Islamic Salvation Front's attempt to take over the Algerian government, accused me of being pro-Islamist and then just made up entire sentences he claimed I had written, which he was forced to retract because I had not.

Likewise, Jeffrey Goldberg just now accused me of wanting "to deny to the Jewish people a state in their ancestral homeland." The fact is that a) I'm generally sympathetic to the states recognized as United Nations members. But b) wounded romantic nationalism of Goldberg's sort is a pathetic remnant of the twentieth century, which polished off tens of millions of human beings over wet dreams about "blood and soil." There isn't any "blood" or "pure" "races," and human groups have no special relationship to territory. My complaint about the treatment of the Palestinians is that they have been left stateless and without citizenship or rights. I'm not a Palestinian nationalist who insists that they return to what is now Israel (though they should receive compensation for lost property if they don't). The Germans weren't always in Germany (in fact they are relative newcomers), and they aren't of 'pure' 'blood,' and the 200,000 Jews in contemporary Germany--some of them Israelis-- have as much right to be there as anyone else. Most Germans and most Ashkenazi Jews have a relatively recent female common ancestor. As a species and subspecies, we are from southern Africa, and that only about 100,000 years ago. If someone is nostalgic for the Old Country, they should try Gabarone, Botswana. And say hello to Mma Ramotswe for me.

Israeli Army Cpl. Jeffrey Goldberg then corrects my assertion that he has no vision of the future of the Palestinians by saying that he has advocated for a Palestinian state in all of the West Bank and Gaza with East Jerusalem as its capital.

So let me say up front that I did not in fact think Goldberg would go quite that far, and that I apologize for getting him wrong.

But here are some problems with Goldberg's position, nevertheless:

He doesn't seem to understand that simply having a vague notion that maybe a two-state solution is desirable (for the good of his vision of an ethno-nationalist state in Israel) is different from actively working for it and being willing to criticize publicly those leaders attempting to forestall it. It isn't a talisman you can use to justify warmongering or bigotry. George W. Bush, after all, took the same position. In. One. Speech. I don't see the sense of urgency and passion about this issue in Goldberg that was visible in his wretched so-called 'journalism' about Saddam Hussein's Iraq, which was riddled with ridiculous assertions about Saddam sleeping nude every night with Usama Bin Laden while playing with his miniature atomic bombs, and which Dick Cheney used to get up the horrific invasion and occupation of Iraq.

Goldberg has not only not exactly been at the forefront of the peace movement, he has argued and agitated against doing anything practical to achieve this increasingly unlikely goal. He is the Rottweiler of ideologues when it comes to making sure that no Israeli policy is ever criticized by anyone without his branding the critics bigots and even genocidal. Since, as noted, Goldberg is possibly still an Israeli army reservist and actively served in the Israeli Army as a prison guard during the first Intifada or Palestinian uprising, I can't understand why anyone takes him seriously when he lashes out at critics of Israeli policy. I mean, what would you expect? If an Arab-American had served in the Palestine Authority police, would anyone give him a perch at The Atlantic and routinely bring him on CNN to denounce critics of Mahmoud Abbas?

Holding the leadership of a country harmless from civil society criticism guarantees that the leadership will not change its policies. Goldberg actually instructed Secretary of State Hillary Clinton not to pressure the Netanyahu government to move in the two-state direction, on the grounds that pressure only sends Israeli leaders to their bunkers. Well, if you can't pressure them, then I suppose you are waiting for the Likud Party and Yisrael Beitenu to volunteer to cease colonizing the West Bank and cease blockading Gaza. The United States routinely pressures other countries, including allies, over issues on which there is a US interest. The US pressured Turkey to let the 4th Infantry Division march through that country to Iraq. The US pressured France to vote for a UNSC resolution authorizing the Iraq War. The US is currently pressuring Japan not to close the bases on Okinawa. Why does Goldberg think the US should treat the Israeli leadership with kid gloves?

Me, I see Likudniks and Avigdor Liebermans at the head of a country with one of the world's most powerful militaries and intending to implement policies likely to get Americans killed, and I intend to scream bloody murder.

Does Goldberg have a plan "B"? Because his two-state solution is so 1993. The problem is, it is almost certainly past the point where any such thing is possible, given the size and extent of Israeli colonies in the Palestinian West Bank. Goldberg admits that the only two likely outcomes of the current policies of Binyamin Netanyahu and Avigdor Lieberman are Apartheid or a one-state solution.

Would Cpl. Goldberg like to specify which he would prefer, in case it comes to that (as it likely already has)?

By permission. Links in the original.

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I hadn't read Juan Cole prior to this fight between the US and Israel.  Kept getting him mixed up with John Cole of Balloon Juice.  But I'm quite glad I found him.  Really great blog.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 06:20:27 PM EST
Also, I'd like to point out that Jimmy Carter was right.

As usual.

Undoubtedly: The dumbest thing the US did in the last few decades was kicking Carter out of office.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Wed Mar 17th, 2010 at 07:57:21 PM EST
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Juan Cole has always been on the ET blogroll (such as it is...).
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 03:13:48 AM EST
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I used to read Juan Cole regularly when I was in the US (before 2005). He was an invaluable source of commentary on the middle east and beyond.

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 04:23:43 AM EST
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What took them so long?

Netanyahu's in-law calls Obama anti-Semite

(Christian Science Monitor) - In an interview with Israel Army Radio, Hagai Ben Artzi, the brother of Netanyahu's wife Sara, reportedly said: "it needs to be said clearly and simply: There is an anti-Semitic president in the US. It's not that Obama doesn't sympathize with [Mr. Netanyahu]. He doesn't sympathize with the people of Israel."

Netanyahu's office swifty published a condemnation: "I entirely reject the remarks of Hagai Ben Artzi."


1 Gilo: 850 homes approved for publication and planning objections in Nov 2009
2 Pisgat Zeev: 600 homes approved for publication and planning objections in Jan 2010
3 Sheikh Jarrah: Several Palestinian families evicted in past 18 months to make way for Jewish settlers after court ruled in ownership dispute
4 Ramat Shlomo: 1,600 homes approved for publication and planning objections in Mar 2010
5 Silwan: Demolition orders on 88 Palestinian homes built without difficult-to-get permits - Israel planning controversial renewal project
6. West Bank barrier: Making Palestinian movement between West Bank and Jerusalem harder - Israel says it's for security

US still waiting for Netanyahu response on settlement concerns

Martin Indyk On Netanyahu-U.S. Flap

Cross-posted from my diary @BooMan -- Blahblah Biden Visits Netanyahu, Israel

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 02:22:19 AM EST
"You're not giving us what we want when we want it, so you're an anti-Semite."

Could Bibi's brother-in-law be any more of a stereotypical Israeli idiot?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 04:11:19 AM EST
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Now you're an antisemite :P

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 04:24:35 AM EST
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Reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld where Jerry describes his always bickering father: "...and when he doesn't get a good seat at the synagogue, the rabbi? An antisemite..."
by Bernard (bernard) on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 01:59:54 PM EST
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Re: Jewish jokes, there's a definition that an antisemite is someone who hates the Jews more than is really necessary. (At least, I always thought it was a Jewish joke. I just checked on Google, and it seems that it is due to a Hungarian nobleman called Joseph Eötvösz).
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 02:48:21 PM EST
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Joseph Eötvösz, a Hungarian nobleman, would say in the 1920's that "an anti-Semite is one who hates the Jews... more than necessary."

Funny spelling -- they translated the given name, but kept the umlauts in the surname, yet added a 'z' at the end for whatever reason... while the reference itself is totally wrong.

József Eötvös lived 1813-1871: long dead by the 1920s... He was a writer and reform politician, who became minister for religion and education in 1867, and was responsible to bring in the law that made Jewish citizens and religion equal by law. (He was also the father of the better known physicist Loránd Eötvös.)

The earliest record of the Hungarian version (for the record: Antiszemita az, aki a kelleténél jobban gyűlöli a zsidót and slight variations thereof) I found is in a 16 April 1920 record of Parliament (pdf, Hungarian), in which a liberal MP of Jewish origin is making fun of anti-semites. When he quotes it [actually in a slightly off form, shouters 'correct' him), he calls it a "Hungarian proverb".

Elsewhere on the web, it is ascribed to writer Kálmán Mikszáth (1847-1910). I first thought it was apocryphal, but then I found the original: with archaic wording, and of course a different context. It is in a newspaper article Mikszáth published on 25 October 1884, which is a sarcastic-cynical piece on Parliament's first session after elections. The quote is at the end, when he talks about the then four parties in Parliament:

...A napidíjak legalább bizonyos egyformaságot hoznak a pártok közé, mert egyebekben aztán roppant a különbség....The daily allowances [paid to MPs for appearing in Parliament] at least create a certain similarity between the parties, because in other matters, there is a huge difference.
A mamelukok jobban szeretik Tiszát, mint ahogy kellene.The 'Mameluks' [servile members of the governing Liberal Party] love [PM Kámán] Tisza more than one should.
A függetlenségiek úgy gyűlölik, mint ahogy nem kellene.The [anti-Monarchy opposition] Pro-Independents [and '48-ers] hate him in a way they shouldn't.
Az egyesült ellenzékiek önmagukat szeretik jobban, mint kellene.The [moderate] United Opposition love themselves more than they should.
Az antiszemiták pedig a zsidóra agyarkodnak erősebben, mint ahogy illik.And the [Nationwide] Antisemites are snarling at the Jew stronger than it is decent.
Ez a helyzet szignatúrája.This is the signature of the situation.
Mondjuk ennélfogva, hogy a hét története is.Hence we could say, also the hisstory of the [past] week.

IOW, a double-edged swipe at the then active Hungarian Nationwide Antisemite Party and antisemites in other parties. (For the record, having scanned through dozens of Mikszáth's previous articles, I find he spent a lot of time exposing the idiocy of lower-case and upper-case anti-semites, while at the same time, he held the stereotypes too. For example, on the sidelines of the Tiszaeszlár Affair, he contrasts a family of assimilated Jews distressed by the new hostility of neighbours following the anti-semitic campaign, and a money-grubbing Jewish pub owner who is happy about the many extra customers as journalists and antisemitic spectators flock to view the trial -- to conclude that anti-semitism hits the good Jews and misses its target...)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Mar 20th, 2010 at 05:40:14 PM EST
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Thanks for the research. You might want to look into the Wagnerian era for a perspective on Jews and antiSemiticism in Germany as well. It would be interesting. Likewise, as Mousalini's fascist government was know to be peppered with Jews, it would be interesting to know about the climate which led to tolerance in Italy, while the Nazis went in the opposite scapegoating direction.

by shergald on Sat Mar 20th, 2010 at 06:06:23 PM EST
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"For 20 years he sat with the preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is anti-Semitic, anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli," Ben-Artzi said. "When an anti-Semitic president comes to power in America, it is our test, and we must say: `We will not give up. We are a 4,000-year-old people, while you will pass on and disappear in one or two years. Who will remember you? But Jerusalem will always be secure.'"

Setting aside the seeming veiled threat -- as if America couldn't blow Israel off the planet at the drop of a hat if it really wanted to -- last I'd checked, America was a hundred and seventy years older than Israel.

We have people who drive cars that are older than Israel.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 04:25:02 AM EST
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Avenges or takes revenge on?

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 04:22:28 AM EST
Or even slaps down.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 06:39:29 AM EST
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Same thing or meaning, no?

by shergald on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 09:24:00 AM EST
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To avenge is to take vengeance on behalf of someone. So Inigo Montoya avenged his father by taking revenge on Humperdinck.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 09:26:41 AM EST
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1 : to take vengeance for or on behalf of

2 : to exact satisfaction for (a wrong) by punishing the wrongdoer

Merriam-Webster

I think we are both correct. But the context also speaks to what is meant here, 2.

by shergald on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 10:54:50 AM EST
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Yes, you can avenge a victim (meaning 1) or avenge a wrong (meaning 2) but you cannot avenge a wrongdoer (your meaning).

The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 11:10:23 AM EST
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My sense is that Cole believes that he was wronged by the words/accusations of Jeffrey Goldberg, and many others listed, which he is taking time to verbally avenge or get back at.

by shergald on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 02:55:54 PM EST
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PS: In truth, it was originally takes revenge on, but for room in the title bar, I went for the shorter avenge.

by shergald on Thu Mar 18th, 2010 at 02:57:25 PM EST
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You can lead a horse to water, but....
by gioele (gioele(daught)sandler(aaaattttt)gmail(daught)kom) on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 02:57:47 AM EST
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US Department of Justice Asked to Regulate AIPAC as a Foreign Agent of the Israeli Government

WASHINGTON, March 17 (PRNewswire-USNewswire) -- The US Department of Justice has been formally asked to begin regulating the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) as the foreign agent of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs.  A 392 page legal filing presented by a four person IRmep delegation in a two hour meeting with top officials of the Internal Security Section substantiated the following case for AIPAC's immediate registration:

  1. AIPAC is a spinoff of an organization already ordered by the DOJ to register as an Israeli foreign agent.  In November of 1962 the American Zionist Council was ordered by the Attorney General to begin filing disclosures as an Israeli foreign agent under the 1938 Foreign Agents Registration Act.  http://www.IRmep.org/1962Order.pdf  Six weeks later, former AZC  employees incorporated the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in Washington, DC, taking over the AZC's lobbying activities.  http://www.IRmep.org/AIPAC.pdf  AIPAC did not register as a foreign agent.  
  2. AIPAC's founder Isaiah L. Kenen was the chief information officer for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs in New York and for a time duly registered in that role.  http://www.IRmep.org/Kenen.pdf The Justice Department ordered Kenen to personally re-register after he formally left the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs to head up private lobbying and publicity for the Israeli government at the nonprofit American Zionist Council.  Kenen never complied with the order. http://www.IRmep.org/order.pdf  
  3. Espionage related FBI investigations in 1984 and 2005 reveal AIPAC's ongoing stealth foreign agency activities http://www.irmep.org/ila/economy ...  

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 01:11:25 PM EST
Who is IRmep, and is this significant? In any case, it seems a bit too late; if they win, what stops AIPAC from lobbying as a corporation now?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 01:41:20 PM EST
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Dennis Ross sidelined at State over his foreign agent status with Israel

Ross' problems within the Obama administration began when it was discovered that he failed to register as a foreign agent for the government of Israel in his capacity as the chairman of the Jewish People Policy Planning Institute (JPPPI) in Jerusalem. Unlike the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and WINEP, the JPPPI is run by the Jewish Agency, which is an organ of the Israeli government. Official statement

U.S. Interests vs. The Jewish State

Should Washington maneuver Israel into a box, Tel Aviv will collapse yet another coalition government. Or announce a resignation. That was Ben-Gurion's ruse in June 1963 when John F. Kennedy insisted on inspections to stop Israel's nuclear arms program. Ehud Olmert used the same negotiating tactic when it appeared that the Road Map could lead to a final status agreement. His well-timed resignation brought back Netanyahu.

 For anyone to assume or suggest that Israel is operating in good faith reflects a perilous misreading of history. What we witnessed at the U.N. is how warfare is waged in the Information Age. This was neither the behavior of a U.S. ally nor a nation deserving U.S. support, friendship, arms or even recognition. Any further appeasement of this extremist enclave and Obama can rightly be charged with breach of his oath of office to defend the U.S. from all enemies, both domestic and foreign.

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 03:33:09 PM EST
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I found the IRmep site myself, but it doesn't say much about what it is, or whether anyone I might have heard of is involved. What I was getting at was: is it a serious organization with a track record that suggests that their request will be taken seriously (before being rejected...) or is it just a publicity stunt?
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Fri Mar 19th, 2010 at 05:56:48 PM EST
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