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Time for a Change

by ChrisCook Fri May 7th, 2010 at 06:22:15 AM EST

Norway's biggest daily - Dagbladet - sums up the UK election better than anyone:

"The Country has Spoken: we just don't know what they've said".

I disagree, I think that as the dust clears and the final results trickle in it's immediately obvious that no party has a mandate to govern the UK and that the public have effectively said: "Time for a Change"

And yet as the financial storm clouds gather over Greece, Portugal and Spain, and the US financial market shows all the stability of a Roll On Roll Off ferry with water swilling about the car deck, there is a need for a Unity government of all the best talent UK politics has to offer.


Gordon Brown's task now is to appoint a 'trusted third party' as a steward or custodian to the post of Prime Minister, and with that done, for the parties to agree among themselves a protocol for a temporary Unity government's constitution and an agreed programme for government.

He will then be free to take on the international role as financial statesman to which his aptitude and experience suits him.

In the UK Partnership model I propose, Nick Clegg - who is the obvious candidate - would act as a non-executive senior partner.

In my view, David Cameron should take the powerful role that Lord Mandelson created , and essentially thereby become Senior Managing Partner, while Alastair Darling would remain - being streets ahead of the competition - as the other Managing Partner and Chancellor.

Then it's a matter of dividing up the other Cabinet jobs, proportionally to seats/votes, and my only suggestions there are firstly that the Foreign Secretary post is uniquely suited for Lord Mandelson, who is one of the few genuinely world class diplomats, with skills that will be needed when the UK acts on the global stage. Secondly, I do not believe that either Labour or the Tories can be trusted with the Home Secretary post, and it should go to a Lib Dem.

Anyone familiar with my thinking will recognise that the proposed structure is not actually the UK Plc we hear so much about - which I believe to be a uniquely toxic form of enterprise model and responsible, with deficit-based money, for the problems we are in - but a UK Partnership.

Clegg's role as a non-executive 'steward' PM would be to reach consensus, bang heads together, referee disputes, and generally ensure that the insane ideologies which got us into this mess are put behind us, and that our government actually governs in the people's interests, rather than in the interests of corporates; of the UK's baroque management overlay and consultocracy; or their own post-politics career.

So perhaps no mandate IS a mandate for a partnership approach to UK government which might even set an example for others: it's Time for a Change, and to return either Labour or the Conservatives to power is not it.

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Let's say, I understand your management model for the enterprise. What project(s) do you either expect or recommend these partners to adopt?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 09:30:05 AM EST
I expect them firstly to agree cuts because that is the consensus and that is all they know, and indeed there is indeed quite a bit of low-hanging fruit.

But then, to quote Harold Macmillan, " Events, Dear Boy, Events" - in the form of the upcoming 'Second Wave' of the financial crisis - will overtake the government.

When (not if) it does, a modern combination of:

(a) Solidarity/mutuality at the heart of 'old' Labour; with

(b) Radical liberalism from Adam Smith himself down through J S Mill to Lloyd George at the heart of 'old' Liberal;

will actually serve as the politico-economic source of the necessary 'Blue Labour'/ 'Red Tory' policies.

Such policies are the answer, if executed in the right way, because they systemically and sustainably address wealth and income inequality, without which no solution is possible.

At this point the UK Partnership government would slough off the New Labour apparatchiks and greedniks; the 'Orange Book' neo-Liberals; and all but the fully signed up 'Big Society' Tories.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 11:17:25 AM EST
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Apart from changes to marginal income tax rates effective this summer, which policies will systemically and sustainably address wealth and income inequality?

You have highlighted, for example, organized movement toward demarchy Wales in order to redress structural weaknesses of economic activity there.

Are partners likely to rollout such programmatic goals for the nation?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 12:50:27 PM EST
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The Lib Dem 'mansion tax' was on the right lines, but that is missing the point, because the correct policies would not IMHO necessarily originate from those who benefit from the existing system. ie the government and executive.

I believe that 'reality-based' bottom up policies  adopted by community networks such as the remarkable London Citizens Living Wage campaign will be the way to go. I get on well with the key founder of Telco, and have met their 'affordable housing' campaign leader, who is very much on-board withh testing my complementary variant to their existing proposal for a US-style Community Land Trust.

It was Brown's genuinely inspirational speech....

....on Monday to the Citizen's UK gathering of 2,500 community activists that made me think there is still hope.

Oh and btw its complete variance with previous brown performances also made me think that a deal had been struck and that everything we now see is Mandelsonian kabuki - albeit contingent on the Tories not getting a majority.....and that Brown's continuing statesmanship is essentially an extended job interview for some financial global super job.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 01:08:20 PM EST
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Whenever I hear talk of a unity government, I'm reminded of a Lewis Black bit about bipartisanship, because you know it's bad "when these pricks work together."

In all likelihood, a unity government wouldn't involve the best and brightest the UK has to offer, but rather offices based on seniority within the parties and all sorts of political nonsense.

There's a problem with the idea of Clegg as referee: They're all of the insane ideology that got the UK into the mess to one degree or another.  If anything, the party with the least inclination seems to be the party everyone in the punditocracy agrees has "lost".  And given that that's the party that implemented the ideology, it doesn't lend much confidence.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 10:45:02 AM EST
you know it's bad "when these pricks work together."

So the conservatives come up twenty short. (Probably 19 by the time that Thirsk and Malton comes in.)

But DUP has 8 seats, SNP 5, SF 5, PC 3, SDLP 3, Green and Alliance 1.

So the DUP strategy just cant work.

However, if Cameron is willing to alienate the DUP and work with Nationalists, SNP+SF+PC+SDLP+Alliance=17.

Ok still short, but if Cameron could get Sinn Fein and the DUP in coalition together, maybe he deserves to be PM.  

It's even harder for a Lab-Lib coalition to work.  They come up to 315, 11 seats short.

So it's either going to be:

  1. Conservative minority government, most likely.

  2. Con-lib coalition, which can't be stable, and will have to come at a high cost to pull Clegg in.

3)Lab-Lib super coalition, LAB+LIB+SNP+PC+SDLP=326.  So that comes at the cost of Brown out, PR in, and Scotland gets to choose on independence.

4) National Unity,  CON+LAB=546.  Seems the least likely, but if the City boys make the markets scream, and PR is the cost of bringing in the Libs to any government, why not.  I still think that a minority government that crashes is more likely, but if its known that that is untenable, why not get to the point.  Not to mention, the Cons and Lab have an interest in stopping any deal with the Libs that involves PR......

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 12:33:30 PM EST
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Don't forget the Queen in all this. She's seen it all (11 PMs has it been?). She is tied by convention, but not by a constitution. She has the ear of the most senior civil servants including the cabinet secretary. She won't be seen making any public decisions (or any statements at all), but the Establishment is quite powerful still, especially if she 'advises'.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 01:20:52 PM EST
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We all know the truth.



And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 01:33:04 PM EST
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Well, I realise I am about to be shat upon from a great height, but I am, essentially, a Marxist elitist - until such time as unideological education is equally available to all. A pipe dream, of course.

A Marxist, because I believe in collective ownership as a precursor of equality. And also because we finally have the tools to make that happen. However (in the Marxist sense) I would replace the seizure of 'production' by 'creativity'.

But I am an elitist because I don't believe the 'masses' are going to work this out for themselves. I include both the bourgeoisie and the passive in the 'masses'.

But monarchy? It would appear to be indefensible. Except as a conduit  of continuity, a mythological system of training for wisdom (rather than power), and a source of communal hope and redemption that was well described in the Golden Bough.

"The danger, however, is not less real because it is imaginary; imagination acts upon man as really as does gravitation, and may kill him as certainly as a dose of prussic acid."

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 04:18:44 PM EST
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My understanding is that there's a member of the Royal Household waiting patiently in the Cabinet Office to be presented with a list of MPs signed up to a Queen's Speech.

And at that point - and the clock is ticking - she'll invite whoever put that list together over to Buck House for an audience.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 01:42:07 PM EST
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What clock is ticking?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 02:13:02 PM EST
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Hung Parliament likely (From The Northern Echo)
There is no formal deadline for when a Government must be in place, although a keystone date is May 25, when the Queen's speech is due to set out a new Government's priorities in a new Parliament.


"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 02:48:20 PM EST
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Lab +2(SF_bonus) = 260, 66 shy

Lib + Alliance = 58

SNP+PC = 9

It really would only be anything close to a stable coalition government if SNP and Plaid Cymru reached a longer term coalition agreement. And even if the SDLP and Green abstain, its only an effective majority of about 3.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 02:13:53 PM EST
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It looks a lot like 1974.

Or maybe more like the 1920s.  I bet that this is the first election of many.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 02:58:18 PM EST
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I doubt one would get short odds on a bet on an early election.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri May 7th, 2010 at 06:25:10 PM EST
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Tories offer a deal to Lib Dems

(Scotsman) - The Tories closed with 306 seats, 20 short of a majority. Labour ended with 258 seats, with the Lib Dems on 57, having failed to capitalise on their poll surge during the campaign. In Scotland, Labour won 41 seats, the Lib Dems 11, the SNP 6 and the Tories just one. For the first time in 36 years, the country awoke after election day to discover that they had failed to return a clear result.

The first decisive move of the day came just before 10am when Mr Clegg spoke to reporters outside Lib Dem headquarters in London. As Labour ministers were openly talking up the prospect of a Lib Dem-Labour deal, Mr Clegg dramatically knocked it back, saying he was duty-bound to talk to the biggest party first.

"It is now for the Conservative Party to prove that it is capable of seeking to govern in the national interest," he said.

That game-changing intervention altered the political calculus immediately and, within hours, Mr Brown emerged from Downing Street to acknowledge he was now at the mercy of events, saying he "completely respected" Mr Clegg's decision to speak to Mr Cameron first.

Gordon Brown the caretaker PM

Daily Telegraph front page hung parliament of 1974

Cross-posted from my diary@BooMan -- UK National Election Hangover [Update]

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sat May 8th, 2010 at 02:11:24 AM EST
He said much more...
During the election campaign I said that whichever party gets most votes and the most seats, if not an absolutely majority, has the first right to seek to govern either on its own or by reaching out to other parties. And I stick to that view. It seems this morning that it is the Conservative Party that has more votes and more seats though not an absolute majority.

I think it is now for the Conservative Party to prove that it is capable of seeking to govern in the national interest. At the same time this election campaign has made it abundantly clear that our electoral system is broken, it simply doesn't reflect the hopes and aspirations of the British people.

So I repeat again my reassurance that whatever happens in the coming hours, days and weeks I will continue to argue not only for the greater fairness in British society not only the greater responsibility in economic policy making but also for the extensive real reforms we need to fix our broken political system.



The brainless should not be in banking -- Willem Buiter
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat May 8th, 2010 at 04:06:22 AM EST
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General Election 2010: David Cameron will surprise many with his courage as Prime Minister - Telegraph

Sceptics will suspect that Cameron is cynically kicking the issue into long grass. Not necessarily. The first past the post system is now difficult to defend. Sooner or later it will be replaced. It would be better for the Conservatives to re-model it, rather than allow Labour at a future date to choose a system that brings it partisan advantage.

Depending on what new system emerges, there may be political re-grouping. By then the Cameroons will have discovered that they can work with the Lib Dems, or at least some of them. The prospect of ditching the Tory party Right wing is hardly dismaying. A new centre Right grouping (New Conservatives?) would probably find it easier to win under any system than the old Conservatives did on Thursday night. The British people have voted for new politics, and Cameron is poised to deliver it.

my bold

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat May 8th, 2010 at 06:26:36 AM EST
BBC News reporting Gordon Brown was "threatening" and "angry" during telephone call with Clegg last night

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat May 8th, 2010 at 06:40:27 AM EST
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BBC: Cameron offered Lib Dems cabinet posts (home secretary, chief secretary to the treasury and transport secretary)

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat May 8th, 2010 at 06:54:50 AM EST
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I think it's a fallacy to create governing models that parallel, either in thought or in execution, commercial enterprises or boards, be they of Anglo-Saxon business style, Rhineland, or UK Partnerships. So I disagree with your proposal as philosophical construct, because it only reinforces the flawed perception that government should be run like a business.

The word needed in the UK is "coalition". It'll be interesting how the stab at partnering and bartering over issues will be handled. Welcome to the Rhineland way of politics!

by Nomad (Bjinse) on Sat May 8th, 2010 at 06:35:09 AM EST
Or indeed the Nordic way of politics, which tends to suppress ideological government unless overwhelmingly supported at the ballot box (say 60-70% of voters). The tectonic shifts tend to be very slow.

However, I think there is a difference between government as business and government as management.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat May 8th, 2010 at 07:18:50 AM EST
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A UK Limited Liability Partnership (LLP) is, confusingly, not a partnership and is the first example of what I call an 'open corporate'. Not that I advocate an LLP for government.

What I advocate for government is an 'open corporate' agreement/protocol with a consensually agreed collective responsibility to a common purpose.

What is not present in this - new - open corporate model is the bilateral responsibility - the 'several' in 'joint and several' of the (sub-optimal) UK Partnership business model of which you are rightly critical.

So it is not a partnership, but it does incorporate partnership principles of consensual sharing of risk and reward.

In other words, what I am proposing is an agreement, not an organisation. It will not own anything, employ anyone, do anything, or impose anything on anyone. It is simply a consensual agreement to a common purpose.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat May 8th, 2010 at 07:23:42 AM EST
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advanced enough in English to comprehend such inflections in understanding a "partnership" which is not a partnership. Further, calling this not-partnership an 'open corporate' while I reject government style copied out of the corporate world does not aid to persuade me.

In my understanding, "coalition agreement" is a consensual agreement to a common purpose.

I'm supportive of your undertakings to create better, more fair and debt-free contracts in business transactions. I'm left entirely unconvinced likewise constructs can be adapted for good government.

by Nomad (Bjinse) on Sat May 8th, 2010 at 09:00:11 AM EST
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The problem is that too many terms have become polluted.

And 'corporate' has become particularly polluted as has 'market'; 'capital' and many others.

If 'coalition agreement' is unpolluted in your view, then that's fine.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat May 8th, 2010 at 10:37:49 AM EST
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Now there's something to scratch further, as many of your posts on the subject converge on the redefinition of terms.

What 5 words do you see as particularly polluted, for what reason, and what replacements do you propose? That would be a fine diary, if you'd have the time for it.

by Nomad (Bjinse) on Sun May 9th, 2010 at 06:14:05 AM EST
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The real political nerds - Bad Science
Data matters. We use it to understand what has already happened in the world, and we use it to make decisions about what to do next. But in among the graphics and electoral cock-ups lies a terrible truth: a small army of amateur enthusiasts are doing a better job of collecting and disseminating basic political data than the state has managed.Chris Taggart blogs at CountCulture and was baffled to discover that there is no central or open record of the results from local elections in the UK. If you go to the Electoral Commission's website, they pass the buck to the BBC, where you can find seat numbers for each area, but no record of how many votes were cast for each candidate.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat May 8th, 2010 at 06:59:39 AM EST
I know.

I was having a devil of a job finding out what had happened to a couple of people I knew who had stood as councillors.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat May 8th, 2010 at 10:39:41 AM EST
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Well the only spreadsheet ive come across so far, to look closer into the results has been ordered by rows as candidate, which makes it very hard to do a lot of analysis of the result.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat May 8th, 2010 at 02:06:22 PM EST
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The people have spoken, Gordon Brown was handed a defeat with a message for change. The only option is minority rule for the Conservatives, to be kept in power by a deal with the Liberal Democrats of Nick Clegg.

Lib Dems to hand power to David Cameron

(Scotsman) - The deal which looks increasingly likely is a "confidence and supply" arrangement under which the Lib Dems would agree to abstain from crucial votes in the Commons, thereby preventing the Conservative government from falling.

The Lib Dems would demand that such an agreement has a fixed time-scale, perhaps of about two years, so that there can be no chance of Cameron attempting to seek a fresh election.

In unprecedented scenes in London yesterday, 1,000 people took to the streets to demand electoral reform. They marched to the building where Clegg was holding talks with colleagues, and handed in a petition urging him not to sell out to the Tories.

Responding to the protest, Clegg said: "It's in the interests of everybody in Britain for us to use this opportunity to usher in a new politics after the discredited politics of the past. The fact that you are here because you care so much about political reform is absolutely wonderful."

A deal without proportional representation, which would give the Lib Dems more seats to reflect their share of the vote, would be a major disappointment for activists, who believe they have their best chance for 35 years to deliver a fairer electoral system.

Cross-posted from my diary @BooMan -- UK National Election Hangover [Update]

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sun May 9th, 2010 at 03:51:31 AM EST
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Which way will Nick Clegg turn?

(Times Online) Apr. 25, 2010 - If the Tories come close to the 326 seats needed for an overall majority, Cameron would hope for a deal giving him a minority government with selective support from the Lib Dems. The parties' agendas are so far apart on issues such as Trident and tax reform that few on either side believe a formal coalition could last for long.

Instead, a "confidence and supply agreement" would mean that Clegg would agree to support Cameron's first budget in return for policy concessions in the Tories' Queen's speech.

When it comes to Labour, the barrier to any deal with the Lib Dems is not policy but personality. Clegg has made it clear that he does not want to go into a formal partnership with Brown.

The Lib Dem leader was bruised by his brief experience trying to seek cross-party consensus with the prime minister over MPs' expenses. Brown ignored Clegg's ideas and tried to ram through his own doomed reforms. Clegg is in no mood to repeat his error and Labour is divided over how to respond to the challenge.

Case for electoral reform has grown stronger

Paddy Ashdown on the qualities of Nick Clegg

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

'Sapere aude'

by Oui (Oui) on Sun May 9th, 2010 at 05:05:55 AM EST
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