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Don't Boycott Israel? Why not?

by shergald Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 11:23:16 AM EST

Because according to Jacob Weisberg, Newsweek columnist, "The very idea is repellent."

Really? Let's listen to some of what he has to say:


If you follow the news closely enough, you might have caught a small item recently noting that Meg Ryan had canceled a scheduled appearance at a film festival in Jerusalem to protest Israeli policy. This was significant not because anyone should care what the nose-crinkling movie star thinks about the Mideast but precisely because no one does. Ryan, a conventional Hollywood Democrat, is a barometer of celebrity politics. Her sort of sheeplike, liberal opinion once reflexively favored Israel. Now it's dabbling in the repellent idea of shunning the entire country.

Support for the Israeli cultural boycott has been growing in surprising places lately. After the Gaza flotilla incident in June, rock bands including the Pixies canceled performances at a music festival in Tel Aviv. Elvis Costello announced in May that he was canceling two upcoming performances to protest the treatment of Palestinians. Unlike Ryan, Costello is a thoughtful person whose views are worthy of respect. So why, exactly, do I think he's wrong, too? Why is a private embargo--which includes an academic boycott and the push for divestment on the anti-apartheid model--an unacceptable way for outsiders to protest Israeli treatment of Palestinians?

One argument is that academic boycotts are intrinsically unacceptable because they violate the principles of free expression and the universality of science and learning. A parallel objection applies to cultural boycotts, which directly target the most forward-thinking members of a society. In the case of Israel, shunning writers like Amos Oz and David Grossman, who serve as national consciences, seems not only intrinsically vile but actively counterproductive. On the other hand, it would be hard to justify a blanket rule that cultural and academic sectors are always off-limits. In authoritarian societies, cultural institutions do tend to become ideological proxies--think of the National Ballet in Cuba, or the East German gymnastics team.

It won't work? So why is the Israeli Kenesset passing legislation that would criminalize boycott efforts inside of Israel and the West Bank?

Let's see. Did Weisberg even begin to mention the reasons why boycotting Israel is justified, like the 43 year long military occupation of the Palestinians, whose sole purpose it is to colonize---well, let's be frank about it---steal their lands, which continues today? And what about the atrocities perpetuated by Israel against the Palestinians, like the massacre of 1,400 mostly civilians in Gaza recently, including over 300 innocent children? Let's not even mention the past 60 years. And what about the suppression of non-violent protests, including the deaths of protesters as well as the arrest of its leadership, the so-called Gandhis of Palestine, who are are jailed interminably. Not a word.

Instead, what we get from Weisberg is a repetition of Israeli propaganda talking points (could have been out of GIYUS or even StandWithUs): that "supporters of this boycott seldom focus on China or Syria or Zimbabwe--or other genuinely illegitimate regimes that systematically violate human rights," and "because Israel is a refuge for Jews persecuted everywhere else, this kind of existential challenge is hard to disassociate from anti-Semitism."

It's those old defenses: why us and criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic!

Even though we finally get an admission from Weisberg that cultural and sports boycotts against South African Apartheid were effective, somehow Israel is not South Africa. It is a democracy. Well so was South Africa, and so was America when it supported slavery and then Jim Crow segregation for a hundred years.

Weisberg is just not convincing.

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Will this diary make the rec list? That's the only question, for it asks, will the Europeans support a boycott of Israel?

by shergald on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 01:01:21 PM EST
If you wanted to run a poll, you could have added one to your diary.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 03:44:29 PM EST
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I usually count the 'recs' a diary gets as equivalent to an approval poll. it is a more valid indicator.

'0' so far. Want to step up?

by shergald on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 04:13:52 PM EST
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It's more reliably an indication of people's opinion of a diary rather than of their support for a policy.

I was going to comment on the substance of your diary until I saw your snide comments <pfff>.

But OK.

European Tribune - Don't Boycott Israel? Why not?

cultural and sports boycotts against South African Apartheid were effective, somehow Israel is not South Africa. It is a democracy. Well so was South Africa, and so was America when it supported slavery and then Jim Crow segregation for a hundred years.

Seems dead right to me.

On the other hand, I do see a problem on the cultural/intellectual side. Not that I agree with Weisberg's calling a boycott "vile", but there is the fact that Israeli films and books are an important avenue of expression for dissent within Israel, and communication beyond its borders, and that supporting the artists and writers of the opposition does seem to involve showing/seeing their movies, publishing their books, etc. It's a problem that came up recently in France with the Utopia cinema chain that decided to boycott an Israeli film then went back on the decision for reasons like those I suggest.

So I'm for a selective boycott.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 04:31:49 PM EST
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No doubt that expressions from the opposition will not be boycotted and have not been, and that selective boycotts are preferable. I have yet to hear of anyone boycotting a talk by Jeff Halper, an Israeli, on account of his anti-occupation views.

by shergald on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 05:03:22 PM EST
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There are boycotts of general Israeli academia, regardless of views expressed; they presumably wouldn't specifically target leftists, but they don't go into details to see who they affect. Those are small, as all Western boycotts of Israel are, but they exist.
by Alon (alon_levy1@yahoo.com) on Tue Jul 27th, 2010 at 12:03:20 AM EST
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Something we may never see at ET, from its sister site, Booman Tribune:

Damaging Netanyahu Video Emerges
by BooMan
Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 01:42:10 PM EST

"This will do little to help U.S.-Israeli relations.

There is one video Binyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, must be praying never gets posted on YouTube with English subtitles. To date, the 10-minute segment has been broadcast only in Hebrew on Israel's Channel 10. [Editor's note: A version of the Natanyahu video with English subtitles is now available and can be viewed, together with the translated English transcript, here.] Its contents, however, threaten to gravely embarrass not only Mr Netanyahu but also the US administration of Barack Obama.
The film was shot, apparently without Mr Netanyahu's knowledge, nine years ago, when the government of Ariel Sharon had started reinvading the main cities of the West Bank to crush Palestinian resistance in the early stages of the second intifada.

At the time Mr Netanyahu had taken a short break from politics but was soon to join Mr Sharon's government as finance minister.

On a visit to a home in the settlement of Ofra in the West Bank to pay condolences to the family of a man killed in a Palestinian shooting attack, he makes a series of unguarded admissions about his first period as prime minister, from 1996 to 1999.

Seated on a sofa in the house, he tells the family that he deceived the US president of the time, Bill Clinton, into believing he was helping implement the Oslo accords, the US-sponsored peace process between Israel and the Palestinians, by making minor withdrawals from the West Bank while actually entrenching the occupation. He boasts that he thereby destroyed the Oslo process.

He dismisses the US as "easily moved to the right direction" and calls high levels of popular American support for Israel "absurd".

He also suggests that, far from being defensive, Israel's harsh military repression of the Palestinian uprising was designed chiefly to crush the Palestinian Authority led by Yasser Arafat so that it could be made more pliable for Israeli diktats.

Here's the video (the transcript is below the fold)."

Click this link: http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2010/7/25/134210/129


by shergald on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 03:27:08 PM EST
shergald:
Something we may never see at ET

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Why don't you embed the video?


"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char

by Melanchthon on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 04:49:25 PM EST
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by shergald on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 05:05:09 PM EST
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"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
by Melanchthon on Sun Jul 25th, 2010 at 05:37:57 PM EST
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In retrospect, the boycott tool should have been in use for a while now.

I suppose that the concept is that each tool up the chain goes from refined to broader in scope.

Seeing as how the Zionists took over after the Brits left with a very refined but very broad program of eliminating Palestinian village life with attendant massacres and pillaging and then moving in and renaming the places, stealing the water, destroying the crops, calling a boycott "repellent" seems a bit lazy on Jacob Weisberg part.

Sure, it would be nice to be discriminate and not harm the Palestinians with an Israeli boycott (a long time excuse to hold off) or to now not make those who hold an internal moral high ground suffer. But doing nothing in the face of genocide is repellant.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 05:40:17 AM EST
Crossposted comment to an earlier diary by ask, BDS Israel II - Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions
Good luck boycotting Israel...

US Department of Commerce Bureau of Industry and Security: Antiboycott Compliance

The Bureau is charged with administering and enforcing the Antiboycott Laws under the Export Administration Act. Those laws discourage, and in some circumstances, prohibit U.S. companies from furthering or supporting the boycott of Israel sponsored by the Arab League, and certain Moslem countries, including complying with certain requests for information designed to verify compliance with the boycott. Compliance with such requests may be prohibited by the Export Administration Regulations (EAR) and may be reportable to the Bureau.

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Who Is Covered by the Laws?

The antiboycott provisions of the Export Administration Regulations (EAR) apply to the activities of U.S. persons in the interstate or foreign commerce of the United States. The term "U.S. person" includes all individuals, corporations and unincorporated associations resident in the United States, including the permanent domestic affiliates of foreign concerns. U.S. persons also include U.S. citizens abroad (except when they reside abroad and are employed by non-U.S. persons) and the controlled in fact affiliates of domestic concerns. The test for "controlled in fact" is the ability to establish the general policies or to control the day to day operations of the foreign affiliate.

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What do the Laws Prohibit?

Conduct that may be penalized under the TRA and/or prohibited under the EAR includes:

  • Agreements to refuse or actual refusal to do business with or in Israel or with blacklisted companies.
  • Agreements to discriminate or actual discrimination against other persons based on race, religion, sex, national origin or nationality.
  • Agreements to furnish or actual furnishing of information about business relationships with or in Israel or with blacklisted companies.
  • Agreements to furnish or actual furnishing of information about the race, religion, sex, or national origin of another person.
  • Implementing letters of credit containing prohibited boycott terms or conditions.
This ups the ante by making boycotting Israel and act of civil disobedience against the US government. But in fact, these laws have been in the books for 30 years...

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 06:44:49 AM EST
If you try to organize a boycott merely of anything to do with the occupied territories, applying the act may require the U.S. to decide that they are part of Israel. This could get interesting.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 07:22:06 AM EST
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Unfortunately, it's also impossible. The EU has had trade restrictions against goods produced by Israeli paramilitaries in the Occupied Territories on the books for years - but Israel systematically and deliberately ships those goods under fraudulent cargo manifests stating that they are from Israel proper.

So what you'd have to do would be boycott anything that can't prove that it's from Israel proper - which would include goods produced by civilian Israelis living in the real Israel, which would give those so inclined a formal excuse to use those anti-boycott provisions.

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 08:58:23 AM EST
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A friend of mine, as I may have posted before had a job on an Industrial Kibbutz, back in the early 80's making rubber boots. Once he'd been there for six months he was asked Conspiratorially if he would like to work on the secret night shift for slightly more money. It turned out that the night shift stencileed the initials NCB (For National Coal Board) on the side and stuck made In Britain stickers on the side.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 11:14:14 AM EST
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But you can still find companies building or otherwise supporting the expansion or maintenance of illegal settlements in the occupied territories, and then institute boycotts of those companies. There are also difficulties with this but it's what's being done at present.

fairleft
by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 06:45:59 PM EST
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Looking at the 'persons' definition, I don't see how this law prevents municipalities, counties, states and so on from refusing to buy Israeli goods and services.

fairleft
by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 04:38:58 PM EST
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It's all about conscience. South Africa was enough to bring at least Americans to understand what their money is supporting. It has included death among people doing diamond mining. Imagine going before the alter of God and sliding on a diamond ring that took the lives of miners paid a pittance for their blood.

by shergald on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 04:58:10 PM EST
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I think ask is wrong, and that he/she thinks the application of the antiboycott law is much wider than it actually is. I think it applies only to 'foreign' boycotts organized by a foreign country or group of countries. My interpretation would mean that a boycott organized, for example, by U.S. citizens would not be covered by the law. Some evidence for that interpretation is that all the actual recent cases prosecuted (as far as I can tell) involve the Arab League boycott of Israel. Note the bold added:

Antiboycott Laws:
During the mid-1970's the United States adopted two laws that seek to counteract the participation of U.S. citizens in other nation's [sic] economic boycotts or embargoes. . . .

Objectives:
The antiboycott laws were adopted to encourage, and in specified cases, require U.S. firms to refuse to participate in foreign boycotts that the United States does not sanction. They have the effect of preventing U.S. firms from being used to implement foreign policies of other nations which run counter to U.S. policy.

Primary Impact:
The Arab League boycott of Israel is the principal foreign economic boycott that U.S. companies must be concerned with today. The antiboycott laws, however, apply to all boycotts imposed by foreign countries that are unsanctioned by the United States.

http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/antiboycottcompliance.htm#whatsprohibited

fairleft

by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 05:23:06 PM EST
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I see; I should have said 'I think Migeru is wrong'.

fairleft
by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 05:25:58 PM EST
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I post such things so that people can correct me if I am...

By laying out pros and cons we risk inducing people to join the debate, and losing control of a process that only we fully understand. - Alan Greenspan
by Carrie (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 06:00:24 PM EST
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Well, it took a few days, but there ya go.

fairleft
by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 06:41:31 PM EST
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US companies have many links with the UAE Emirates (Abu Dhabi and Dubai), also through Halliburton HQ and World Ports investment in the United States. Don't hear the Israeli boycot once! Of course Dubai does allow entry of Israeli citizens, indeed cloaked as Mossad agents ...

"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."

Amnesia and Gaza Genocide

by Oui on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 08:42:23 PM EST
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Saber Kushour: 'My conviction for "rape by deception" has ruined my life'
Saber Kushour, an Arab convicted of 'rape by deception' of a Jewish woman, gives his side of the story in an exclusive interview

Harriet Sherwood in Jerusalem The Observer, Sunday 25 July 2010

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/25/saber-kushour-rape-deception-charge

The above provides more information, from Kushour's perspective on the case described here:

Israel vs Arabs doing 'it' with Jews
by fairleft
Wed Jul 21st, 2010 at 01:03:29 PM EST

http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2010/7/21/13329/0918

fairleft

by fairleft (fairleftatyahoodotcom) on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 04:42:14 PM EST
Thanks for this additional information. It is as if we just accept the facts as published in 'newspapers' as valid, when in fact they may not be.

by shergald on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 04:54:05 PM EST
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Thanks to

Oui
siegestate
santiago

for getting this important information on the rec list.

by shergald on Mon Jul 26th, 2010 at 05:00:56 PM EST
Israel isn't South Africa in terms of its economic structure, its main trade partners, its political allies and enemies on the world stage, and so on. This suggests that the best way to fight the occupation may not be boycotts, but some other strategy.

For example, the left could hammer on the fact that the US and Germany send Israel foreign aid it doesn't need. In Germany the activism against aid to Israel would probably be humanitarian, leveraging pro-Palestinian attitudes on the left and center; it should ideally also have Jewish leadership, to avoid coming off as neo-Nazis. In the US foreign aid is unpopular, so the fight would take a more nationalist characteristic, potentially leveraging the support of anti-Semitic, anti-Israeli right-wingers like Ron Paul.

Currently, Europe is doing another potentially useful thing - namely, it slowly delegitimizes the Israeli state apparatus through persona non grata declarations, prosecutions of Mossad agents, and human rights trial. A big problem there is that Europe isn't really united here. Britain for one keeps apologizing that its courts are too aggressive on Israel. That said, my reading of the Eurocracy is that it's more pro-Palestinian than pro-Israeli and could be moved to take a more aggressive position (and here is where a stricter "Prove it's not from the territories" rule could come into play).

by Alon (alon_levy1@yahoo.com) on Tue Jul 27th, 2010 at 12:12:11 AM EST
If I leaf through my own mind, I can only recall a few peace activists like Uri Avnery and Noam Chomsky, who are against the BDS movement. Avnery gives the reason that Israelis will feel threatened and their attitudes harden; Chomsky, I can't put together his rationale. By contrast, just about every peace org that I am aware of focused on the IP conflict, whether Israeli or non-Israeli, Jewish or nonaligned, is supportive of BDS. And now we have the Palestinian Fatah government pushing for the same thing inside Israel and the West Bank. And as a measure of its potential threat, the Israeli Knesset is now in the process of passing legislation that would make involvement in BDS a crime. We can't wait to read the headlines.

But the biggest difficulty with BDS is focusing it on Israel itself and not just on products from the Palestinian territories made in Israeli settler cities and towns. We are sort of seeing some of this happening by way of a few universities and religious groups in the US at least divesting from companies that aid the occupation (e.g., Caterpillar, Motorola), and trade unions refusing to handle Israeli goods, but it is doing little more so far than providing a news headline. But those headlines do help to keep the injustice public, and in the case of Americans, reminds us that we are complicit in it.

As for the US and German governments, I can speak for the former to tell you that you will never see a formal boycott of Israel stemming from US governmental action, like withholding aid, especially military aid from Israel. It will not happen. BDS, by contrast, is more of a grassroots movement and like most peace activists, I'd like to see it keep going if only for the publicity it provides.

by shergald on Tue Jul 27th, 2010 at 10:05:09 AM EST
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What Fatah is doing right now isn't general BDS; it's BDS against settler business. This makes a lot of sense, given that a) Fatah needs Israel as a market for Palestinian goods, and b) Palestinians living in the West Bank probably have an easy time figuring out which businesses are settler-owned and which aren't.

The publicity BDS provides isn't necessarily good publicity. First, there's a good reason that Avnery is against it and that leftists in Israel such as Gideon Levy and Amira Hass say nothing about it. Second, only a minority of people in the West can be expected to participate in the boycott, as the general attitude is either pro-Israeli or neutral. And third, given the power of the Israel lobby in the US, any successful activism would have to sow division in AIPAC and get unanimous support from such liberal Jews as Thomas Friedman.

While the US will not withhold military aid on its own, speaking out publicly about it is likely to get some support. While the neocons and realists tend to dislike public criticism of America's choice of allies, on the grassroots level there would be a lot of people agreeing with such criticism. BDS forces people to commit to a pro-Palestinian position, even those who don't particularly care for the conflict; talking about aid could unite the humanitarians (since aid to Israel is by implication a substitute for aid to poor countries) and the anti-aid people (since aid to Israel is still aid).

by Alon (alon_levy1@yahoo.com) on Wed Jul 28th, 2010 at 08:23:20 PM EST
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You must be quite young without memory of the South African boycott. Then too, everything you have said applied. It worked nonetheless.

Boycotting anything is always a publicity action and in spite of the absence of Americans who knew what was going on, if it was bad and contrary to American principles, it worked.

That the Israeli government is fearful of BDS is enough reason for keeping it moving forward. That the Palestinians in the West Bank joined in is not a reason to believe that it will fail. It depends on the publicity it gets.

by shergald on Tue Aug 3rd, 2010 at 12:42:53 PM EST
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PS: I don't disagree with your focus on EU governments imposing restrictions on Israeli diplomats or the other actions you mentioned. That seems to part of a general movement to deligitimize Israel's actions against the Palestinians. Even more effective has been the war crimes charges against prominent Israelis like Sharon, Barak, Olmert and Livni, which has limited their travel to the US and a few other inviting countries (e.g., Olmert in Australia).

It all helps to pressure Israel to stop its trajectory towards formal Apartheid, and headlines about further massacres of Palestinians, who may attempt to free their people from subjugation and servitude, like the fate of Black people during the period of Afrikaaner rule in South Africa.


by shergald on Tue Jul 27th, 2010 at 10:27:44 AM EST
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Here's some more of the argument, from Phil Weiss' site, Mondoweiss:

Jeremy Ben-Ami's main argument against BDS is it doesn't affirm Israel's right to exist as Jewish homeland
Philip Weiss
July 27, 2010

Here's something important I've missed: a debate of Boycott/Divestment/Sanctions in the July issue of Tikkun magazine, with Jeremy Ben-Ami of J Street and editor Michael Lerner, against, and on the pro side, Maya Wind of the Israeli refusenik group Shministim, Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb and Rebecca Vilkomerson of Jewish Voice for Peace. The debate is not online (but I gather you can find some of it here.)

A few points: Hat's off to Michael Lerner for giving so much space to this important debate. Next time maybe he will have the debate with Palestinians, who also have something to say about this? Omar Barghouti is very articulate, and knows the issues backward and forward.

The piece is notable for the three arguments Jeremy Ben-Ami makes against BDS that I set out in excerpts below: 1, BDS activists must start by acknowledging Israel's right to exist as a Jewish homeland with full equality for citizens, except who gets to "return" there; 2, BDS freaks out Israelis and we have to treat them with kid gloves so they willingly make concessions; 3, BDS activists paint this as a one sided story when Israelis and Palestinians are both victims and oppressors. It's equal.

Read on HERE: http://mondoweiss.net/2010/07/jeremy-ben-amis-main-argument-against-bds-is-it-doesnt-affirm-israels- right-to-exist-as-jewish-homeland.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=F eed%3A+feedburner%2FWDBc+%28Mondoweiss%29

Ben-Ami's views as are well known tread the middle, as they attempt to address the injustices perpetrated against the Palestinians, while at the same time indicating that Israel has a right to commit those injustices. J Street is becoming a disappointment. For the moral reality, it is necessary to stick with grassroots groups like Jewish Voice for Peace.


by shergald on Wed Jul 28th, 2010 at 10:54:33 AM EST
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