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by In Wales Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 10:47:28 AM EST

Be ambitious


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Or not. You know, please yourself.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 11:04:21 AM EST
I was taking my time

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 11:17:54 AM EST
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When you could be ambidextrose, sweet on both sides?

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 11:20:24 AM EST
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Just to re-post CH's earlier comment that Keith Olberman has a special comment on the Arizona shooting

He fired today into our liberty and our rights to live and to agree or disagree in safety and in freedom from fear that our support or opposition will cost us our lives or our health or our sense of safety. The bullseye might just as well have been on Mrs. Palin, or Mr. Kelly, or you, or me. The wrong, the horror, would have been - could still be just as real and just as unacceptable.

whilst I understand his outrage, the comment was not just a shade overblown, it was a complete rejection of reality.

The USA is in love with guns and with the mythology of the safety they bring. And so there has developed a grudging tolerance of the increased level of violent crime that comes form that. This seeping of violence into the culture and the language has also brought about a guilty tolerance for the fact that domestic political disputes may also break into violence. People may say they don't like it, but they still tune in every day to hear more.

Today is not the day to beat Americans over the head with stuff they already know. But I can wail a bit

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 11:17:23 AM EST
wasn't my comment/post.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 11:19:12 AM EST
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Have to agree, Helen.  We live in an area of the country where everyone carries a gun.  If someone is wearing boots, then you know that there is a gun tucked within easy reach (they say it's in case of a snake).  Even the young kids carry guns (for snakes).  I can't say that I'm shocked by yesterday's shooting, but I'm frustrated and frightened.  As the economy gets worse, I suspect that the violence will increase.  Scared people react without thinking.  
by ElaineinNM on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 11:28:39 AM EST
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sure, you have my sympathy.

I used to be on another discussion site for bellydance so all political viewpoints were represented (mostly US) and occasionally we'd discuss politics. And it was clear even then that both sides had their narratives down pat and there would be no daylight in the wall that was their rationale.

I remember thinking i had a winning argument when I said that the West was only civilised after guns were banned form Dodge and got smacked down with a mountain of fine detail about which streets in Dodge guns were banned from. I retired muttering about pedants and how you can't win.

banning guns is like having proper healthcare, you could have done it in the 60s, but it's entirely too late now

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 11:41:59 AM EST
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That's the problem, certainly; you could get all the bedbugs out of NYC more easily than getting rid of the guns in the USA.  And if you bring up the statistics that prove you're more likely to be killed or injured by a gun if you own or have one in the house? Well, everyone considers themselves the exception to all statistics.

Karen in Bischofswiesen

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher

by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 02:30:26 PM EST
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all of which explains why your sig is now Karen in Bishofswiesen

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:01:50 PM EST
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It doesn't explain whether it is because of the guns or the bedbugs. Accoding to Wikipedia
New York City bed bugs have been found to be 264 times more resistant to deltamethrin than Florida bedbugs due to nerve cell mutations.
but I guess you can always shoot them.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 05:12:23 PM EST
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"you could get all the bedbugs out of NYC more easily than getting rid of the guns in the US"

While I appreciate what you're saying, I don't think it's literally true. For one thing, bedbugs are really, really hard to get rid of. But further, it is not at all hard to think up various political and social changes that could change the landscape of personal gun ownership...

by asdf on Mon Jan 10th, 2011 at 02:40:10 AM EST
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Guardian - Michael Tomasky - In the US, where hate rules at the ballot box, this tragedy has been coming for a long time

In addition, contemporary American conservatism has been utterly arrested by this ridiculous paranoid fantasy that our government is a tyranny. Here was Republican Congressman Paul Broun of Georgia, speaking in Washington last April on the occasion of the 15th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing: "Fellow patriots, we have a lot of domestic enemies of the constitution, and they're right down the Mall, in the Congress of the United States - and right down Independence Avenue in the White House that belongs to us. It's not about my ability to hunt, which I love to do. It's not about the ability for me to protect my family and property against criminals, which we have the right to do. But it's all about us protecting ourselves from a tyrannical government." The year before, this same Broun singled out then-Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, as one such "domestic enemy of the constitution". He was re-elected last November with 67% of the vote.

This kind of rhetoric will go into hibernation now, but only for a bit. Because not only is it too central to rightwing mythology; it is central to Republican electoral strategy. This is one of those things that no one says, because it can't really and truly be proved forensically, but everyone knows. Get people to hate liberals. Get them to think not only that liberals have ideas for the country that are wrong - get them to believe that liberals despise the country and are actively attempting to hasten its demise. Say progressivism isn't just invalid or even dangerous, but "evil" and a "cancer," as Glenn Beck says. Fear gets people to the ballot box.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 01:09:33 PM EST
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Tomasky is wrong. The rhetoric will not die down, because these lunatics have so successfully had every button pushed that they think they are not only right, but that they are the Paul Revere's heading over heath and glen preparing for the inevitable and righteous revolution.

They are so sure of their victimhood, and so sure that they know exactly who to blame - there the usual suspects: immigrants, which includes everybody not white, Jews (Gifford, who knew?), probably Catholics if they thought about it, certainly New York city folk, anyone still in California, (with those last two it is redundant to mention gays and abortionists and anyone not Bible-toting straight and ready to beat the snot out of people in a Christ-like manner) and anyone who wants to give the UN a chance - you know, all these liberals who are forming the tyrannical government.

It is so surprising that they can't connect the dots and see rampant corporatism and those few who are sucking up the commons that they think they are protecting as a target.

I think I will end here and follow Twank's good example.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:20:02 PM EST
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"probably Catholics if they thought about it"

No, the Catholics changed over under Reagan. They're ok now. Although they do still worship in the basement of the Air Force Academy, along with the Buddhists...so I guess they're still only 1/2 ok...

by asdf on Mon Jan 10th, 2011 at 02:42:26 AM EST
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And the prejudices are still there, waiting for an opportunity to surface. For example, in last year's anti-Sharia bill in Arizona.
"RELIGIOUS SECTARIAN LAW" MEANS ANY STATUTE, TENET OR BODY OF LAW  EVOLVING WITHIN AND BINDING A SPECIFIC RELIGIOUS SECT OR TRIBE.  RELIGIOUS SECTARIAN LAW INCLUDES SHARIA LAW, CANON LAW, HALACHA AND KARMA BUT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY LAW OF THE UNITED STATES OR THE INDIVIDUAL STATES BASED ON ANGLO-AMERICAN LEGAL TRADITION AND PRINCIPLES ON WHICH THE UNITED STATES WAS FOUNDED.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jan 10th, 2011 at 05:59:37 AM EST
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#lessambitioushymns is now picking up on twitter

My favourites so far:

Mundane Things of Thee are Spoken
For those in peril on the Seesaw
Oh Little Town of Basildon
What A Friend We Have On Facebook

by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 12:18:56 PM EST
So people in NY would be singing "Stuyvesant Night"?

Really, this is one of the few times I might wish I had a better command of Christianalia.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt t gmail dotcom) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 12:29:09 PM EST
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Once for the Amurkans - Boring Grace.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 12:36:40 PM EST
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I Am Folding Jacob's Ladder

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 12:31:26 PM EST
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"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 12:45:52 PM EST
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And of course, who could forget this hymn.

He's Got the Whole Enchilada In His Hands

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 12:58:24 PM EST
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"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 01:00:32 PM EST
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That lady goin' make us all believe.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:36:03 PM EST
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Go Tell it on the Doorstep
Guide me o thou Grey Pullover
There is a Green Hill really quite near here
There shall be Showers of Warm Water
Onward Christian Solderers
He who would Listless Be
Crock of Ages
And did those Feet in Birkenstocks
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:34:52 PM EST
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Second Man "of interest" in Gifford Shooting

Christian Science Monitor reporting:

With the local sheriff's office and the FBI investigating, suspicions that the suspected gunman, Jared Lee Loughner, had an accomplice would complicate the thesis that the shooting was the work of a lone and mentally unbalanced young man lashing out at the government. The existence of a co-conspirator could point to a more calculated plot, and perhaps shed more light on the motive for the attack.

"We are not convinced that [the man in custody] acted alone. There is some reason to believe he came to this location with another individual, and that individual is involved," said Clarence Dupnik, Pima County sheriff, at a press conference Saturday.

6 people died at the scene of the attack.  Including a Federal judge, a nine-year old girl, and a staffer for Rep. Gifford.

BBC reporting:

US congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who was shot in the head by a gunman in Arizona, is responding well to treatment and can follow simple commands after surgery, doctors say.

They said it "was still very early" but they were "cautiously optimistic".

Surgeons at the Arizona University Medical Center said Ms Giffords was still in a critical condition but they were optimistic, especially since the bullet that hit her had not crossed both hemispheres of the brain.

I'm not finding anything on the path of the 9mm bullet.  however, the extent and persistence of the damage to her depends on the composition of the bullet and how much hydrostatic shock occurred to the brain.  A steel jacketed bullet could have passed entirely through the brain, as earlier reports stated, and done less damage than a lead round nosed bullet or, worst case, a lead-and-pellet wad-cutter.

Although if it was the latter Rep. Gifford would have most likely died on the scene.  

As is the case with all penetrating brain damage, the lasting damage to Rep. Gifford will only become apparent over time, perhaps years.


She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 01:24:28 PM EST
Looking forward to watching on BBC iPlayer the second episode of Aurelio Zen, an honest (?!) Italian cop, with a drop dead gorgeous girlfriend and working for a Machiavellian hierarchy.

Filmed in Italy, in English, it works a lot better than I thought it would.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 01:29:05 PM EST
Really ??!! Well, different strokes for different folks and I'm sure there's stuff I watch that you condemn as drivel (Silent Witness is that far from jumping the shark even as I speak)

But....I just couldn't get past the MadMen sexism in the first 20 minutes of the first episode. And there was something about the way the plot developed that seemed fantastical to me.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 01:48:47 PM EST
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I know it's been mentioned a couple of times here at ET, but this is a slow-burning story (Murdoch newspaper bugs celebrity mobile phones) that's been rattling around for a couple of years. And finally, finally, somebody has noticed that the most worrying aspect of this isn't the bugging, it's the cover up

Observer - Editorial - Phone hacking: Questions keep coming. We need answers

One explanation for a lack of police diligence is the close relationship that sometimes exists between news reporters and officers. In 2003, Rebekah Brooks, then editor of the Sun, told a parliamentary committee that the newspaper had paid police for information. She also defended the use of covert surveillance, but insisted the law was never broken.

Ms Brooks is now chief executive of News International. In that capacity, she was invited back to parliament to discuss phone hacking five years later, but declined. MPs subsequently said the committee avoided applying too much pressure for fear of reprisals in media outlets under Ms Brooks's control.
[....]
A powerful news organisation pays cash to avert scrutiny of dubious practices. Those practices are inadequately investigated by a police force that is thought to collaborate with the same news organisation. MPs say their inquiries are tempered by fear. The man who presided over the newspaper at the centre of the allegations is now the prime minister's chief media aide.

These are the ingredients for a major scandal. Mr Cameron needs to start responding to it as such.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 01:55:19 PM EST
Ive a diary half written that just keeps growing and growing on the subject.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:22:15 PM EST
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I doubt if this guy is particularly liberal and I think a lot of Americans will agree with him:

... after a pull-no-punches news conference in which he linked the shooting in Tucson to a poisonous underlying political atmosphere, the Pima County sheriff may soon become known nationally as the anti-Joe Arpaio.

"When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous," said Dupnik, referring to the troubled suspect, 22-year-old Jared Loughner.

Dupnik said Arizona, embroiled over the last year by bitter divisions over illegal immigration and health care reform, has "become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry."

Many officials have been threatened, including Giffords, the federal judge killed by her side and Dupnik himself. The sheriff called that a "sad thing," and said, "Pretty soon, we're not going to be able to find reasonable, decent people who are willing to subject themselves to serve in public office."

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/09/clarence-dupnik-is-the-anti-joe-arpaio-sheriff-in-arizona/




Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 02:10:01 PM EST
Much more likely is that he will not be elected sheriff again...
by asdf on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 02:19:52 PM EST
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Not that the sheriff of a county that stretches 123 miles along the Mexican border is a softy on immigration. His 1,500-member department refers more illegal immigrants to the U.S. Border Patrol than any other law enforcement agency in Arizona.

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/09/clarence-dupnik-is-the-anti-joe-arpaio-sheriff-in-arizona/

But, anyway, at 75, I don't suppose he's too worried about re-election.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 02:37:42 PM EST
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He's already been condemned by at least one republican figure.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:24:25 PM EST
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And so ?

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 05:25:47 PM EST
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Okay, I take back some of my jabs at English engineering.

Got a Vox Lil Night Train tube amp that I'm really enjoying.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 02:18:15 PM EST
2 Watts ??!! Jeez, I don't think I can hear anything that quiet.

no, I can understand cos you are limited in what you can do in an apartment and so this is a good way of getting the full overdrive experience.

But. It. Just. Seems. Wrong

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 06:25:19 PM EST
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It's plenty loud at that level.  I can't turn it up more than about 1/3 without shaking the apartment.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 08:20:02 PM EST
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I think these teeny amps should have a transducer attachment, with foot pedal volume control, to attach near the bridge so's you can simulate sustain and feedback.

I'm willing to take 10% if anyone wants to market that idea

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 10th, 2011 at 06:41:56 AM EST
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The thing is, see, that British technology peaked quite some time ago. Now, the thing to do is make replicas of the old stuff. Like spy radios:

http://www.darleys.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/paraset/diary.htm

by asdf on Mon Jan 10th, 2011 at 02:52:38 AM EST
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Good article on the Giffords shooting:


Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' blood is on Sarah Palin's hands after putting cross hair over district

... Palin should have taken it as a warning of what might happen when a Tea Party hothead dropped a gun while heckling Giffords at an earlier Congress On Your Corner event, more than a year ago.

That did not stop Palin from declaring Giffords a "target." Giffords' district office was subsequently vandalized, and the congresswoman noted that Palin had put "the cross hairs of a gun sight over our district."

"When people do that, they have to realize that there are consequences to that action," Giffords said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/09/2011-01-09_palin_put_a_target_on_her_she_should_ have_known_the_dangers.html

It seems she was shot with same kind of gun she has, Glock 9 mm, and the NRA would have opposed the Earp brothers:

In citing the famous shootout at the O.K. Corral in Tombstone, Giffords did not note that the gunplay was sparked when the Earp brothers sought to enforce town ordinance No. 9.

That law was promulgated on April 19, 1881, by the Earps themselves. It prohibited carrying "deadly weapons, concealed or otherwise" including "firearms of every description."

For Giffords to have cited Ordinance No. 9 could have meant political ruin in a district that romanticizes the O.K. Corral as part of its "gun culture."

Either out of political expediency or actual belief, Giffords herself spoke fondly of this supposed legacy of the Wild West.

"In my district and in my state, we have a very strong gun culture," she said in May when asked for her position regarding a renewed ban on assault weapons.

She had been one of the members of Congress who added their support to the effort to overturn the gun ban in Washington.

She also noted in interviews that she herself owned a Glock 9 mm. The NRA still branded her as an opponent because she had dared to suggest that guns should not be carried in bars.

...

ibid



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 02:21:19 PM EST
Palin is a RW media creation.  They have spent tens of millions promoting her brand.  They have enough savvy to coast over this and then back to business as usual.

Prediction: she'll go on Fox News and weep crocodile tears and All Will Be Forgiven by her market.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 02:51:42 PM EST
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If they can keep Loughner in the crazy loner category, she won't even need to weep too hard. If not, she may need to move up to the soul-searching and much prayer level. Nothing like seeking the Lord's forgiveness to get the slate wiped.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:44:27 PM EST
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I've been selling my CDs on Amazon (because now they're all on hard disk I don't need them any more.)

A four CD boxed set of Switched On Bach etc - my copy cost me £40 - is listed on Amazon UK for £1181.50. (And £1.26 delivery.)

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 02:24:43 PM EST
G A S P !!!

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 02:57:49 PM EST
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Sold a lot of vinyl a few years ago for a healthy sum. Being an ex-staff producer, I had a lot of test pressings, which proved very popular with the intense collectors. It was good to find them nice homes.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:18:51 PM EST
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Have the complete run of Barbara Streisand vinyl.  If you're thinking about getting back into the LP business I'm willing To Deal.

:-)

("Peeee-pul, who neeeeed peee-pul.  Are the LUCKIEST peee-pul ...."

skirtchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Shut up, Barbara.)

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:31:22 PM EST
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Seconding this.  Pleeeze someone take Barbara...
by ElaineinNM on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:35:01 PM EST
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And don't forget John Travolta .  Pleeze take them, pleeze.  And there's more.  Boxes and boxes, all lined up in the hall.  Cheap!  Free!  We'll deal....  
by ElaineinNM on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:40:31 PM EST
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How much are y'all willing to pay?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:45:40 PM EST
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Wrong way 'round.

But tell what we're gonna do.  (Since it's you!)

In a package deal you can get Barbara, John ... we will throw in Bobby Gentry & Glen Campbell "Together Again for the First Time" album, Sonny and Cher's Greatest Hit LP, AND ....

(we're talking "such a deal!" here ...)

The Village People's YMCA album!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(hit it, boys)



She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:02:39 PM EST
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You can read all the evolutionary biology and political theory texts you want, but your culture is here for all to see. I'll take Elaine's cookies for 300, thank you.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:09:04 PM EST
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Ain't our culture.  We didn't buy this dreck.

A friend was selling his in near-perfect condition JVC QL-A75 turntable for $100 and the deal was we HAD to take the @#$%^! LPs out of his house & out of his life.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:18:10 PM EST
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Wow! I'm so overwhelmed I think I'll have to <passes out>

This is Mr Afew's physician speaking. His condition is serious and he won't be in a state to buy anything for maybe a long time. Sonny and Cher might particularly harm what's left of his health. In fact I'm not feeling too well myself... <falls over>

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:19:06 PM EST
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I'd best not post the tea bags to you now then.  Too much caffeine on top of all this stress wouldn't do you any good at all.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:35:36 PM EST
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<opens one eye, sepulchral whisper> Go on, a cup of tea might do me good just now. <flakes out again>
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:39:54 PM EST
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Hmmmm.
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 05:48:32 PM EST
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One's first experience with High Culture™ often has this effect.

Off to roast the beans of the coffee.

And then will return with MORE classic recording offerings from the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s.

To tied you over it here is:



She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:52:18 PM EST
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Never heard of ebay then?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Jan 10th, 2011 at 03:16:28 AM EST
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hard disk.  But--what's done is done.  

The Fates are kind.
by Gaianne on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 08:01:21 PM EST
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Czechoslovak minister who cut through Iron Curtain dies

Jiří Dienstbier, one of the original signatories of Charter 77 passed away in Prague's Vinohradska hospital yesterday.  He was spokesperson for Charter 77 from 1979 to 1985 and worked actively with VONS or the Committee for the Unjustly Accused. which lead to him serving a three year prison sentence and rejection of his right to practise his profession as a journalist.  He was forced to accept only manual jobs.  

In 1989 he was briefly spokesperson for the Civic Forum.  He was later named as the first foreign minister of the post '89 Czechoslovak government under Vaclav Havel.  In this capacity he ceremoniously cut through the barbed wire fence separating Czechoslovakia and Germany.  

Upon the break up of the Civic Forum he attempted to establish a centrist liberal party but never managed to get beyond the 5% threshold required for representation in the Czech Parliament.

In 1998 he as named a special spokesperson of the UN Human Rights Commission for the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, Bosnia Herzegovina and Croatia.

He used to come by the same pub we had a stammtisch in about fifteen years ago.  He was a very nice a personable guy.  

by kagaka (karel.k.rehor [zav] email [tecka] cz) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 02:36:12 PM EST
Sarah Palin = Lady MacBeth.
There's no soap strong enough to wash away that spot.
All the excuses, lies and explanations won't do Ms. Palin any good.
She owns this one and she is stuck with it.
by Maude on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 02:46:58 PM EST
I doubt it.

See my comment to Prof. Walsh, above.

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 02:58:50 PM EST
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While I agree with your premise, her credibility with the wider public has been falling like a stone to the point now that Dick Cheney has got better ratings than she does.

Even if this is not the end of her media career, after all being a serial purveyor of hate, lies and stupidity hasn't hurt Beck or O'Reilly, I'd like to think her career as a Serious Politician is now over.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:06:12 PM EST
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Beck loses his New York radio station on the 17th of Jan. His ratings sank.
Palin hasn't been popular for a time. The Republicans have been slowly backing away from her and I imagine they are going full speed now.
The connection between Palin's map and the shooting was instant. She can't overcome that.
She's Humpty Dumpty.
by Maude on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:15:29 PM EST
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I (& YMMV) look at Palin as a Marketing Brand like Post-Toasties or Wrigley's chewing gum.

Her appeal to "the masses" doesn't matter as long as she gets enough audience for Fox News & etc. to use as selling advertising time.  I'm not being cynical here¹ I'm looking how media companies make their profit and that simply IS advertising revenue based on numbers of eyeballs watching the TV.  (Or whatever)

¹  Well, maybe I AM being cynical but that doesn't mean I'm wrong.  :-)

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:26:23 PM EST
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  Nor does it mean you're right - I think Maude is more likely to be.


Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 05:28:33 PM EST
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I'd like to think her career as a Serious Politician is now over.

Politics in the US hasn't been about substantive issues (which I take to be necessary to be "serious") since the GOP figured-out Nixon lost the Kennedy/Nixon debate because he, Nixon, looked like a thug on the tube.  (In the US you can be a thug but you can't look like one.)  It's all media, all the time now and the average TV coverage of a political speech is 7 seconds.  (IIRC ... checking ...nope: it's 7.3 seconds!  WOW)  

Palin never was serious.  The woman is an idiot.  The only reason we're still talking about her is because Fox News and other RW media have continually pushed her.  

She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre

by ATinNM on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:20:28 PM EST
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Tits.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anas Nin
by Crazy Horse on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:48:10 PM EST
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Oh sure, Palin never was serious, but she was considered Serious which is a different category. That meant she got to be on Fox News spewing ignorant bile for the NASCAR generation. And occasionally on Press the Meat.

She will continue her fake quest to be President in order to hoover up the last few dollars from the gullible and then she'll "retire" to media duties where she'll happily sit on her pile of dough as she's demoted from Fox News to smaller and smaller channels, so long as she gets some money.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:00:53 PM EST
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Obama London: Inexplicable Edits on Sarah Palin's Facebook Page
Sarah Palin has a reputation for being an agressive editor of comments on her Facebook page - a reputation that has always seemed likely accurate to me, given the tedious consistency with which all comments on the page are along the lines of "I love you SARAH!"

But in the wake of the terrible events in Arizona, with many commentators pointing out the obvious fact that Gabrielle Giffords had been targetted by Palin in the November election on a map that used a chilling gun site graphic, I thought it would be worth watching her page for a little while to see if her team were indeed deleting negative comments routinely. But I had no idea how incredibly, almost comically, efficient her people would turn out to be in deleting comments that were even slightly critical of the former Governor. And then I came across... well, what I guess you'd have to politely call an appalling example of editorial misjudgement at best.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 06:32:05 PM EST
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Oh, that's disgusting. Truly awful

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 10th, 2011 at 06:39:56 AM EST
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No, the reason we've been talking about her is that McCain picked her - then she became a serious threat.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice.

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 05:31:11 PM EST
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But watch as Bachmann gets touted as VP for 2012.

Not only is she fashionably female, she's also batshit crazy - always a good thing for the Rs - and frighteningly good at raising cash.

Unlike Palin, who was always eye candy[1] for the trailer trash, Bachmann is a serious politician with committee experience and village contacts and rants about gay paedophiles who hate on Jesus, and stuff like that.

Park her next to a not-entirely-insane sort-of-moderate, and she has real prospects.

[1] I'm being polite.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 05:43:14 PM EST
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What career as a serious politician? She hasn't even bombed her first wedding yet.
by generic on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:06:22 PM EST
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None she admits to anyway

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:14:42 PM EST
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I'm sure you're all aware that she (technically, her daughter) just last week bought a house in Arizona. 100 miles from Tucson.

I wonder whether her plan is (or was) to bail out of Alaska, where her popularity has tanked anyway, and move to The place in the country where her views best resonate. If so, she must be in re-evaluation-of-strategy mode right now...

by asdf on Mon Jan 10th, 2011 at 03:00:52 AM EST
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Trial by Jeory
Of course, amid all the sleaze in Tower Hamlets, life goes on and there is a multitude of people doing good work for our community. It was fabulous to write about a few of them in today's Sunday Express. Here's a tale about The Geezers, a pensioners' club run by my friend and neighbour, Ray Gipson, the former Lib Dem councillor for Bow.

Interesting post on a blog which normally majors on the Byzantine goings on in my London home turf of the London Borough of Tammany Tower Hamlets.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:12:00 PM EST
Rather slanted towards supporting David Cameron's Big society tho'

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 05:22:05 PM EST
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Jeory is a pretty right-wing journo, as far as I can see, but not as toxic as Andrew Gilligan on the whole muslim-bashing front.

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sun Jan 9th, 2011 at 06:47:16 PM EST
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Feb 13, 2011 issue:  "Discussion Meeting Issue 'The detection of extra-terrestrial life and the consequences for science and society' organized and edited by Martin Dominik and John C. Zarnecki".

Ted Peters from Berkeley discusses The implications of the discovery of extra-terrestrial life for religion.

This paper asks about the future of religion: (i) Will confirmation of extra-terrestrial  intelligence (ETI) cause terrestrial religion to collapse? `No' is the answer based upon a summary of the `Peters ETI Religious Crisis Survey'.

[...]

The model of the celestial saviour is the key for understanding both the unidentified flying ob ject (UFO) phenomenon and the assumptions at work in the field of astrobiology, especially the assumptions made at SETI. The 1951 movie The Day the Earth Stood Stil l depicts an emissary named Klaatu from an extra-terrestrial federation of planets landing in Washington DC in a flying  saucer. His mission is to persuade the nations of Earth to cease testing atomic  bombs and cease threatening destructive nuclear war. Coming from a civilization in space far more advanced than ours, Klaatu brings to us the opportunity for peace on Earth.

The article doesn't seem to mention what this "saviour" plans to do if we don't accept the opportunity for peace on Earth....

The conclusion?

Despite the conventional wisdom, it is not reasonable to forecast that any of Earth's ma jor religious traditions will confront a crisis let alone a collapse should we confirm an encounter with extra-terrestrial intelligence. Theologians  will not find themselves out of a job.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on Mon Jan 10th, 2011 at 11:00:55 AM EST


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