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by Jerome a Paris Wed Jun 1st, 2011 at 10:25:27 AM EST
A very important column from Martin Wolf. One way to summarize his argument is to say that slow-motion bank runs are already in progress in the European periphery, and that these countries' banking systems are being sustained only by a process in which, say, Ireland's central bank borrows from the Bundesbank and then lends the funds on to Irish private banks to replace the fleeing deposits. Here are claims among central banks as of the end of last year:
Instituting capital controls might be in order. Economics is politics by other means
Bundesbank open to capital controls as a last line of defence Bundesbank board member Andreas Dombret told Börsenzeitung that capital controls can be introduced by countries as "a last line of defence". "If they are used, it should be done temporarily and in a transparent and targeted manner", Dombret said. In combating high inflows of capital countries need to define a hierarchy of things to do. "If after that the inflows persists, capital controls can be considered", Dombret said. Capital controls were up until very recently a taboo and have only been proposed last week by the IMF in a position that was controversial among certain member states.
Bundesbank board member Andreas Dombret told Börsenzeitung that capital controls can be introduced by countries as "a last line of defence". "If they are used, it should be done temporarily and in a transparent and targeted manner", Dombret said. In combating high inflows of capital countries need to define a hierarchy of things to do. "If after that the inflows persists, capital controls can be considered", Dombret said. Capital controls were up until very recently a taboo and have only been proposed last week by the IMF in a position that was controversial among certain member states.
If you ask me, the water level has now dropped so far that the fuel rods are exposed. We really are in meltdown territory.
Not to read to much into it. That thing is regularly given to someone who sits at the top of some (official) European institution. Once even the pope. Schengen is toast!
Military coup possible in Greece
According to the CIA report, ongoing street protests in crisis-hit Greece could turn into escalated violence and a rebellion and the Greek government could lose control, said Bild. The newspaper said the CIA report talks of a possible military coup if the situation becomes more serious and uncontrolled.
Can our resident Greeks confirm if this is plausible with the current military?
I know that in Spain it's virtually impossible to imagine a coup now that the Civil Guards have been placed under Interior. And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
From Bild: Zerbricht Griechenland an der Krise? Geheimdienst befürchtet Aufruhr und Gewalt
Der amerikanische Geheimdienst CIA warnt jetzt sogar in einem Gutachten vor einer unkontrollierten Situation in dem Pleite-Land! In dem Gutachten heißt es, in Griechenland werde es zunehmend zu schweren Unruhen kommen, sogar von einem möglichen Umsturz wird gesprochen. Das CIA-Fazit: Der harte Sparkurs und die desolate Lage lässt die Situation eskalieren, Athen werde es kaum schaffen, das Land noch in den Griff zu bekommen.
In dem Gutachten heißt es, in Griechenland werde es zunehmend zu schweren Unruhen kommen, sogar von einem möglichen Umsturz wird gesprochen.
Das CIA-Fazit: Der harte Sparkurs und die desolate Lage lässt die Situation eskalieren, Athen werde es kaum schaffen, das Land noch in den Griff zu bekommen.
In a report, the American secret service CIA is now warning even of an out-of-control situation in the bankrupt country The report states that Greece may come to increasing unrest, and even mentionas a possible coup. The CIA's conclusion: the hard austerity measures and the dire situation may escalate, making it harder for Athens to keep the country under control.
The report states that Greece may come to increasing unrest, and even mentionas a possible coup.
The CIA's conclusion: the hard austerity measures and the dire situation may escalate, making it harder for Athens to keep the country under control.
sigh She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
Clearly this means that something must be done about the out of control public.
The international community must act now to ensure that austerity is not imperiled.
It's for the Greeks own good, really. </ sarcasm> And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
Wait..... I know former classmates in the "intelligence" services. I can probably find a moron there without trying that hard.
I just think it's irresponsible to float this talk out there. I'm really interested that a Turkish paper did the English translation.
Just suspending disbelief for the moment, what would a Greek coup, or civil war, mean for Europe?
I'm thinking that the threat alone provides the Germans cover for more interference in Greek politics under the cover of a "humanitarian" mission. Send in a "stabilization" force to shut up the anti-austerity protesters. In defense of democracy, of course. And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
Even if the report is totally made up, doesn't it still provide cover for foreign intervention in Greek domestic politics? And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg
Napoleon III of France was the instigator. His foreign policy was based on a commitment to free trade. For him, a friendly government in Mexico provided an opportunity to expand free trade by ensuring European access to important markets, and preventing monopoly by the United States. Napoleon also needed the silver that could be mined in Mexico to finance his empire. Napoleon built a coalition with Spain and Britain at a time the U.S. was engaged in a full-scale civil war. The U.S. protested but could not intervene directly until its civil war was over in 1865.
Another thing is that there have been leaks and comments put out routinely throughout the last year and a half from people at the ECB and EU and German government that seemed determined to undermine confidence in Greece. Have to keep upping the noise, after all. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
My suspicion has nothing to do with Obama or Bush. I'm simply not seeing the interest of the CIA, whereas there are any number of parties (Germay, Greece, Turkey, etc) who'd be interested in putting it out. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
"The Niger uranium forgeries are forged documents initially revealed by Italian Military intelligence. These documents seem to depict an attempt made by Saddam Hussein in Iraq to purchase yellowcake uranium powder from Niger during the Iraq disarmament crisis."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowcake_forgery "In such an environment it is not surprising that the ills of technology should seem curable only through the application of more technology..." John W Aldridge
Usually when Americans leak stuff, it's to the usual American and British papers. Der Spiegel I might buy, but some random Turkish paper?
Depends on what you're trying to achieve. If you want to influence W European thought, then a Turkish paper makes no sense. But if you want to speak to the Greeks, then a Turkish paper is fine. After all, they're cultural enemies so what Turkey prints about Greece matters far more to the Greeks than what they themselves print keep to the Fen Causeway
It's the gnomes of FEICRMTBF!!!!!! She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
Of course it could turn into... that is, it might, and it might not.
"In such an environment it is not surprising that the ills of technology should seem curable only through the application of more technology..." John W Aldridge
Geheimdienst may mean both "the Secret Service" (with capital letters) and "a secret/clandestine service" (without capital letters). Since the CIA is "the USA's spy agency" they're "the USA's secret service", especially for Bild and its readers. Economics is politics by other means
Scientists in Erie, Pennsylvania, have found that minute concentrations of fluoxetine, the active ingredient in Prozac, are killing off microbial populations in the Great Lakes. ... Killing off bacteria might seem like a good thing. Treating clean lake water with similar strength doses killed off E. coli and enterococcus bacteria, both of which can cause serious infections in humans.
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Killing off bacteria might seem like a good thing. Treating clean lake water with similar strength doses killed off E. coli and enterococcus bacteria, both of which can cause serious infections in humans.
Yersinia pestis doesn't intend to cause Bubonic Plague ... it's mother didn't talk to it nice and caused all sorts of psychological dysfunctions. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
prozak is obviously far superior for creating passive drooling drones barely able to punch a clock or type a document, (while remaining 'competitive' with the lean mean asian robots-on-steroids machine).
goo goo gaga, instant mashed potatoes again. dumb is good, dumber is better, best is a vacuous acceptance of 'reality'. 'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
Out in the Real World
PPP just completed a poll of Iowa Republicans and found one Jon Huntsman supporter. Not one percent. One. And he's a mildly conservative middle aged man who voted for Obama in 2008.
A very active Atlantic hurricane season is on tap for 2011, according to the seasonal hurricane forecast issued June 1 by Dr. Phil Klotzbach and Dr. Bill Gray of Colorado State University (CSU). The CSU team is calling for 16 named storms, 9 hurricanes, and 5 intense hurricanes, and an Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) 166% of average.
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Drew's been whimpering about the lack of rain so Ma Nature has provided:
... a surprise storm off the coast of Florida that is a threat to develop into a tropical depression later this week, after it crosses Florida into the Gulf of Mexico.
Dr. Masters goes on to predict:
It could develop into a tropical storm. Or not. It could develop into a hurricane. Or not. Either it will do one of those two things or it will do something else.
Ah, life in a Universe governed by Sensitivity Dependence to Initial Conditions. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
(He lied.) She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
;) Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
:-p
All kidding aside ...
You need to get a hurricane plan together. This season is shaping-up to be a humdinger. She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist. -- Jean-Paul Sartre
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0415.html
In all seriousness, yes, the weather has gone completely nuts so far this year. Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
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